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Resevoir Hogs
05-12-2004, 04:30 PM
Was just surffin the net when I came across these pictures of Canadians in Afghanistan. Very impressive and since no one else has posted em here ya go.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-659d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R101-458%20..jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2068a.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2066a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2067a.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/KA2004-R103-608d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/KA2004-R101-442-.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/KA2004-R101-437-.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/KA2004-R101-430-.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/KA2004-R101-427-.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2063a.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2061a.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050804/IS2004-2058a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-541d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-530d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-497d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/IS2004-2050a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R101-407-.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050304/IS2004-2052a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-480d.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/043004/IS2004-2048a%20copy.jpg

Uncle Sam
05-12-2004, 04:36 PM
Good find!

memphiz
05-12-2004, 04:58 PM
I posted these in "todays photos' a few days agoand I even made it so when you click on the picture you got Hi-Res images. :( there great pics anyways
These guys are badass
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg)
clcik for Hi res ;)

DE_Six
05-12-2004, 05:30 PM
These guys are badass
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg)
clcik for Hi res ;)

3rd batt/Royal 22ème Régiment (3/R22eR) from "La Belle Province" p-)

SiFiOn
05-12-2004, 05:30 PM
Was just surffin the net when I came across these pictures of Canadians in Afghanistan. Very impressive and since no one else has posted em here ya go.



Someone already has (see memphiz's reply) , but not all of them...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=275836&highlight=#275836


So thanks for the new pics!

budanski
05-12-2004, 05:39 PM
Not these again :roll:. C'mon, can't you canucks just ask memphiz to photoshop some new military photos? ;)

Double Tap
05-12-2004, 05:43 PM
I posted these in "todays photos' a few days agoand I even made it so when you click on the picture you got Hi-Res images. :( there great pics anyways
These guys are badass
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg)
clcik for Hi res ;)
and i posted them the day before you did

Bombtrack
05-12-2004, 05:46 PM
Havent seen these - good post

Dutchman2
05-12-2004, 05:59 PM
This is the first time I can see the differance between SADPAT and MARPAT clear. CADPAT uses some grey/brown tones in it. Very nice camo!

memphiz
05-12-2004, 06:00 PM
These guys are badass
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050404/KA2004-R103-498d.jpg)
clcik for Hi res ;)

3rd batt/Royal 22ème Régiment (3/R22eR) from "La Belle Province" p-)
I know ;)

Not these again :roll:. C'mon, can't you canucks just ask memphiz to photoshop some new military photos? ;)
:lol:

scm77
05-12-2004, 06:19 PM
woot woot

anonymous individual
05-12-2004, 08:13 PM
Nice pictures.

Falco
05-12-2004, 08:17 PM
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg

C9A2 ???

memphiz
05-12-2004, 08:30 PM
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg

C9A2 ???
Possibly I cant tell
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050304/IS2004-2052a%20copy.jpg (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050304/IS2004-2052a%20copy.jpg)
Is this the C7A2?

Falco
05-12-2004, 08:45 PM
Yup

redhawk_six
05-12-2004, 09:30 PM
Yes on both counts. The forces have been sending over C7A2's for field testing for a while now. The C9A2 I haven't seen over there before now though. Good eye, I almost missed it.

Yard Ape
05-12-2004, 09:38 PM
C9A2 ???The C9A2 will be green. These C9 all look black to me.

Falco
05-12-2004, 09:43 PM
C9A2 ???The C9A2 will be green. These C9 all look black to me.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg

If you look closely you can see that the C9 the first soldier to the left is carrying has an C8 type rifle butt and a canvas ammo pouch. It also appears to have a shorter barrel than the "normal" C9.

memphiz
05-12-2004, 09:50 PM
C9A2 ???The C9A2 will be green. These C9 all look black to me.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg

If you look closely you can see that the C9 the first soldier to the left is carrying has an C8 type rifle butt and a canvas ammo pouch. It also appears to have a shorter barrel than the "normal" C9.
Look at Hi Res (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg)

Falco
05-12-2004, 09:54 PM
Thanks mate

With the Hi-res you can see the triad rails at the end of the hand guard. There is a second C9A2 in the hands of the soldier at the rear of the group.

memphiz
05-12-2004, 10:02 PM
Thanks mate

With the Hi-res you can see the triad rails at the end of the hand guard. There is a second C9A2 in the hands of the soldier at the rear of the group.
Cool they're all badass

Falco
05-12-2004, 10:03 PM
Thanks mate

With the Hi-res you can see the triad rails at the end of the hand guard. There is a second C9A2 in the hands of the soldier at the rear of the group.
Cool they're all badass

Wonder why the dnd didn't make some CADPAT-AR LBV?

simple jumper
05-12-2004, 10:27 PM
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R103-656d.jpg

C9A2 ???

you're not dreaming it is a C9A2...still in testing. Ive seen a prototype all in green. the metal and the grips and all...its beautiful.

stuntman
05-13-2004, 12:23 AM
First of all very nice pics! Second I now can really see the difference between arid cadpat and desert Marpat. 3rd On this pichttp://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051004/KA2004-R101-458%20..jpg does the c7 have a m4/c8 style retractable but stock? And forth I always ask but no one ever knows, I am curious to know whats is the name of the standard issue body armor, who makes it and why does it look different from one I saw from Afghanastan more then a year ago? thx!

Yard Ape
05-13-2004, 12:35 AM
C7A2
http://www.diemaco.com/images/c7a2.gif
4 position butt, green furniture, & modified to be useable by lefties & righties.

stuntman
05-13-2004, 01:00 AM
C7A2
http://www.diemaco.com/images/c7a2.gif
4 position butt, green furniture, & modified to be useable by lefties & righties. Wow very nice! thx but what about the other questions!

marty649
05-13-2004, 01:25 AM
First of all very nice pics! Second I now can really see the difference between arid cadpat and desert Marpat.

From a pure asthetic point of view I would say the arid cadpat looks better. But ultimatly it doesnt matter other then in regards to recruitment. However the marines dress uniform is much nicer.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/HiRes/%212004/050804/KA2004-R103-650d.jpg

winning the hearts and minds

marty649
05-13-2004, 01:34 AM
Wow very nice! thx but what about the other questions!

You mean the tactical vest or the body armour? the cadpat tac vest wasnt issued when 3ppcli was sent to afghan along side 101st. http://www.fellfab.com/ is the company that makes the tac vest.

Falco
05-13-2004, 10:02 PM
Wow very nice! thx but what about the other questions!

You mean the tactical vest or the body armour? the cadpat tac vest wasnt issued when 3ppcli was sent to afghan along side 101st. http://www.fellfab.com/ is the company that makes the tac vest.

Any idea why the tac vest isn't made in CADPAT-AR?

Bombtrack
05-13-2004, 10:08 PM
Priority i suppose, as usually they make everything in TW first.


And the A2 weapons are just prototypes, thats why the c9's dont have green furnishing, and the C7's dont have the ambidextrous switches

Resevoir Hogs
05-14-2004, 11:44 AM
Well I would imagine they will be getting tac vests in arid eventually. I really like this pattern, works very well.

here's some closer pics of the new C9 and C7. On a sidenote I don't believe the rifle in the four man picture was a C7A2 but rather the new C8. In other pictures you can see him with it more clearly. But you can see the difference in length of the barrel in that picture with these pictures.

C8A2
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/051304/IS2004-2075a%20copy.jpg

C7A2
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050804/IS2004-2057a%20copy.jpg

In these images you can see the C9A2 a little closer
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050304/IS2004-2049a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/IS2004-2050a%20copy.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050404/IS2004-2056a%20.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050804/IS2004-2058a%20copy.jpg
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/May12.jpg
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/449.jpg
here's a close up of the body armor
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/May05.jpg
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/May04.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/pipeline/ridge/1470/c7a2e.jpg

scm77
05-14-2004, 12:13 PM
And forth I always ask but no one ever knows, I am curious to know whats is the name of the standard issue body armor, who makes it and why does it look different from one I saw from Afghanastan more then a year ago? thx!

The body armor is crappy old stuff. Theres a few different types in service. I don't know anything about who makes them, but they're old. The vests you see there are the same old ones just with a AR Cadpat cover.

They are in the process of making/issueing new cadpat vests. Here's a link. http://www.army.gc.ca/Chief_Land_Staff/Clothe_the_soldier/hab/2/221_e.asp

As far as the tactical vests go, as of now there are no plans to issue AR Caspat versions. Even the US army uses green camo vests with desert uniforms.

The ceramic plates are made by MSA Gallet.

Resevoir Hogs
05-14-2004, 02:38 PM
How can you say those are the crappy old ones? I ain't no expert but to me these vests
http://www.army.gc.ca/Chief_Land_Staff/Clothe_the_soldier/hab/images/Photos/2002.jpg
http://www.army.gc.ca/Chief_Land_Staff/Clothe_the_soldier/hab/images/Photos/9018.jpg

Look nothing to be like these old ones.
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lfca/ExstalwartGuardian/english/Photos_2/LC2003-0020-0055a.jpg
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lfca/ExstalwartGuardian/english/Photos_2/LC2003-0020-0051a.jpg

scm77
05-14-2004, 03:53 PM
The ones in the previous pictures are the one of the older verison plain green ones but they have Cadpat AR covers on them.
Like this, but with a different cover on top.
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/012304/KA2004-A035D.jpg

The ones from the Clothe the Soldier site are the new ones, and the ones in the two hi-res pictures you posted I have never even seen before.

I may be wrong but that's what I've been told by people who were/are actually in afghanistan.

Bombtrack
05-14-2004, 05:05 PM
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/449.jpg[/img]

Now why would you put on a barrell plug durign a patrol?![/quote]

IDFM203
05-14-2004, 05:26 PM
First I have to admit that I love the Canadian desert camo BDU’s….damn I wish we had some of those ;)

Anyways I noticed something in this pic and indeed it’s a trivial military inquiry, but hell, it cant be any more trivial then a lot of the crap that’s posted on this forum anyways p-)

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/May12.jpg

ok now alot in the IDF have been placing our helmet in the same configuration on our backs as this soldier for years now (of course now that we are in a war zone, we are mandated to wear the helmets, but when we werent, like in training or in less “hot” areas, a lot go like what you see here), so my question is, how long have Canadian soldiers been doing this, and also do other nations do this?

(I am not saying we invented this practice or that’s its only we have been doing this for years, just before this pic, I have to admit I had never seen any others before do it this way with any other troops besides are own)

So I guess any answer would be great and also since this is a military photos forum, so if indeed other nations have been doing this, well some pics would be nice ;)

Shalom :D

memphiz
05-14-2004, 05:35 PM
First I have to admit that I love the Canadian desert camo BDU’s….damn I wish we had some of those ;)

Anyways I noticed something in this pic and indeed it’s a trivial military inquiry, but hell, it cant be any more trivial then a lot of the crap that’s posted on this forum anyways p-)

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/May12.jpg

ok now alot in the IDF have been placing our helmet in the same configuration on our backs as this soldier for years now (of course now that we are in a war zone, we are mandated to wear the helmets, but when we werent, like in training or in less “hot” areas, a lot go like what you see here), so my question is, how long have Canadian soldiers been doing this, and also do other nations do this?

(I am not saying we invented this practice or that’s its only we have been doing this for years, just before this pic, I have to admit I had never seen any others before do it this way with any other troops besides are own)

So I guess any answer would be great and also since this is a military photos forum, so if indeed other nations have been doing this, well some pics would be nice ;)

Shalom :D
Well in the pic the Canadians are just on a foot patrol meeting the localsl through a non hostil area with kids around. If they were wearing there helmets they would seem more agressive or threatening to the people, and I dont think they are there to put fear in the little kids minds ;)

But I dont know, Im just makeing an educ..uhm...uneducated guess :D

IDFM203
05-14-2004, 05:41 PM
Well in the pic the Canadians are just on a foot patrol meeting the localsl through a non hostil area with kids around. If they were wearing there helmets they would seem more agressive or threatening to the people, and I dont think they are there to put fear in the little kids minds ;)
No you misunderstood, believe me I understand why they don’t have their helmets on, that was not my question....it was where they put their helmet when not on, more specifically the placement and configuration of it on the mid to upper part of the back.

(Believe me I understand, I Mean before this intifada/war started, we too rarely had our helmets on when we patrolled)

Go read over my question again to see what I mean ;)

Shalom, Eh? ;) :D

memphiz
05-14-2004, 05:52 PM
Well in the pic the Canadians are just on a foot patrol meeting the localsl through a non hostil area with kids around. If they were wearing there helmets they would seem more agressive or threatening to the people, and I dont think they are there to put fear in the little kids minds ;)
No you misunderstood, believe me I understand why they don’t have their helmets on, that was not my question....it was where they put their helmet when not on, more specifically the placement and configuration of it on the mid to upper part of the back.

(Believe me I understand, I Mean before this intifadada/war started, we too rarely had our helmets on when we patrolled)

Go read over my question again to see what I mean ;)

Shalom, Eh? ;) :D
:cantbeli: :D
Im slow Eh! lol
Well mabey that is the best place to put the helmet when not in use, so its not in the way...or mabey because you guys are so cool and we had to copy you :)

IDFM203
05-14-2004, 06:06 PM
mabey because you guys are so cool and we had to copy you :) Well perhaps you did copy us ;) or perhaps you (or some other nation) have been doing this for years and its us that copied you (or that nation), all I know is that we have been doing it for years, for indeed it is the best configuration to have when not being worn, and till this pic, I hadn’t seen it like so in any other military besides ours.

That’s why I asked before if others been doing so, and if so for how long? (also pics would be nice if so)

Anyways no disrespect and I applaud your efforts here (honestly) for trying to answer it, but perhaps if any Canadian BTDT's can chime in (as I believe we have a few on this board) or any other nations BTDT’s who (if) have worn it as such, can answer my questions.

Shalom :D

memphiz
05-14-2004, 06:10 PM
mabey because you guys are so cool and we had to copy you :) Well perhaps you did copy us ;) or perhaps you (or some other nation) have been doing this for years and its us that copied you (or that nation), all I know is that we have been doing it for years, for indeed it is the best configuration to have when not being worn, and till this pic, I hadn’t seen it like so in any other military besides ours.

That’s why I asked before if others been doing so, and if so for how long? (also pics would be nice if so)

Anyways no disrespect and I applaud your efforts here (honestly) for trying to answer it, but perhaps if any Canadian BTDT's can chime in (as I believe we have a few on this board) or any other nations BTDT’s who (if) have worn it as such, can answer my questions.

Shalom :D
Yeah I tried :D
I dont know if there is any BTDT's Canucks, Mabey though. There is just alot of reserves here and they might be able to help.

scm77
05-14-2004, 06:43 PM
Here's another picture for you people with helmet on the back fettishes ;).
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050304/IS2004-2051a%20copy.jpg

IDFM203
05-14-2004, 07:22 PM
Here's another picture for you people with helmet on the back fettishes ;).
hehe :lol: nice way of framing that ;)

Ok so here is even a few more for you back fetish freaks (I see I am not alone here with that p-) )
http://www.isayeret.com/vest/5.jpg

http://www.orev.co.il/view_files/HeapItem_pic/036462/HP_036462_16.jpg

http://www.zanhanim.org.il/view_files/HeapItem_pic/031971/HP_031971_19.jpg


Anyways as I said the question and observation before was trivial, though I figured what the heck I might as well point it out and ask ;)
(Btw, I actually saw that second pic as well, but it’s from the same time, which is now, so I figured ones a enough to base my query on)

Again we have been doing this for years, so I guess it’s interesting to see it on others as well (though again I am curious to know how long you Canucks have been doing this, as well if other nations have been doing this also?).

Shalom :D

Resevoir Hogs
05-14-2004, 10:12 PM
Ya actually what you were told is partly true. The old ones are plain green. (the ones I showed you in the hi res) They close on the front by velcro and go on like a jacket. That's what the CF had in the 90's. The plain green ones in Astan pics are from the clothe the soldier program however the first ones were without cadpat TW or Arid covers. Just first batch. They go on over the head and adjust with the velcro around the torso and on the shoulders. So basically they are the same but with (finally) the cam covers.

To the helmet on back question. The Canadians I saw in joint training and overseas would place their helmets on the butpack (lower back) when they were using web gear. Now that they have the tac vests they seem to be just doing what seems logical. On the back it is out of the way and in a pretty stabble place. Sometimes I've seen troops with tac vests put helmets on the front belt over one of the legs. But this seems unpractical if you were to be fired upon. Dunno if this is their common practice or this guy was just switched on enough to think of this. Good idea anyways.

GPMG
05-14-2004, 11:43 PM
IDFM203 - That is a common practice in the Canadian Forces. With our older webbing/LBE, we attach the helmet to the back straps at the point where the yoke attaches to the web belt. See the picture here where I circled the helmet. Left is Canadian, Right is Armenian.

Regarding the frag vests, the ones pictured in Afghanistan are the Gen 3 versions. There is a Gen 4 version in development with Clothe the soldier (I don't know if it has been put in production yet, my information is several months old) that is much lighter and more flexible. I have been told it feels more like police concealed soft armour than a typical military frag vest.

http://members.shaw.ca/andrewkyw/pics/a.jpg

One?
05-15-2004, 12:20 AM
yes the practice is old but the helmet didn't have the same straps as the idf vests ;)

IDFM203
05-15-2004, 01:40 AM
Well first let me say thanks for responding :D


IDFM203 - That is a common practice in the Canadian Forces. Well how common? Or actually when did Canadian soldiers adapt this configuration when the helmet is not being worn?

You see the pic you brought is not what I am referring to and indeed I understand that’s how it was with those older webbing that you had, but that is not the same configuration of where the helmet is attached via straps in the mid to upper back.

To me that seems like a recent practice in the Canadian military?

Like I said before, in the IDF we have been doing this for years, even with the older Ephod’s (http://www.isayeret.com/vest/ephod.htm) (which is now no longer used in most front line combat infantry troops) a soldier would place the straps from the helmet and put it around the vest in between the upper back pouch and the lower, so as the helmet would be right in the middle of the back (Actually even later on, some soldiers sawed on straps on the upper back pouch and attached the helmet on top of the upper back pouch)

That was with the older “ephod” and with the newer recon vests, well you can see already from the pics that I brought before.

Anyways like I keep mentioning, I know this is a trivial observation in the scheme of things military, but I figured Id ask if others do it and for how long, for it just caught my eye and till those two Canadian pics, I don’t believe I had seen it before except for in the IDF (as we have been doing for years now)


but the helmet didn't have the same straps as the idf vests ;)Yes proof indeed that it’s a copied practice from the IDF, hell you even copied the straps p-) :D

Shalom :D

RSK
05-15-2004, 04:20 AM
Nice pic of the Canucks!

OH CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEEEEE!!!

Bombtrack
05-15-2004, 02:31 PM
IDFM

The tactical vest we have now are new, so like someone else said, before we would just attach the helmet to the back of our webbing, and it would hang around the buttpack. But with the tac vests, the best place to hook them up is on the back - so It's nothing more than just the best way to attach your helmet when not in use. And yes it is a recent practice, since the vests are very new.

[AFSOC]
05-15-2004, 02:56 PM
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Operations/Athena/photos/449.jpg[/img]

Now why would you put on a barrell plug durign a patrol?![/quote]


WHAT?

I dont see any barrell plug you queer...

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album02/101_3.jpg

Thats a barrell plug

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/ussocom_training/28a18.jpg

thats one too

Resevoir Hogs
05-15-2004, 04:21 PM
[AFSOC] said:

I dont see any barrell plug you queer...

Hey no need to get nasty with the guy.
He was right there is a barrel plug on the weapon in the picture. You can tell its on because you cannot see the holes in the flash supressor at the end of the barrel. What you think he's refering to is not a barrel plug but a blank firing adaptor(BFA). The BFA is obviously for excercises to fire blank and allow the weapon's gas system to function.

A barrel plug is just a black or red plastic thing you put on the end of the muzzle to keep dirty and crap out of the weapon. Better than using a condom.

The guy has a barrel plug on because it's afghanistan and therefore very dusty. Just to keep **** outta the inerds of his weapon. You can still fire with it on, you'll just destroy it.

Resevoir Hogs
05-15-2004, 04:28 PM
Here's a few hi res pics of the barrel plug in use.

With
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lfca/ExstalwartGuardian/english/Photos_2/LC2003-0020-0019a.jpg
Without
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lfca/ExstalwartGuardian/english/Photos_2/LC2003-0020-0032a.jpg

Notice the holes on the flash supressor. The barrel plug can be used on the LMG or service rifle. It's just a cheap dispossable way to keep dirt out of the barrel.

IDFM203
05-15-2004, 05:23 PM
Mattoigta,

Thanks for the answer….yeah that’s what I thought, for like I said before, believe me I understand the benefits of placing it there, though before those pics, I hadn’t seen it on any other troops besides in the IDF (where again we have been doing it for years).

So thanks for clearing up that it is indeed a recent practice in the Canadian military.

Anyways I found a pic that shows what I was referring to with the old ephods and how soldiers used to attach the helmets on there when not being worn


Like I said before, in the IDF we have been doing this for years, even with the older Ephod’s (http://www.isayeret.com/vest/ephod.htm) (which is now no longer used in most front line combat infantry troops) a soldier would place the straps from the helmet and put it around the vest in between the upper back pouch and the lower, so as the helmet would be right in the middle of the back (Actually even later on, some soldiers sawed on straps on the upper back pouch and attached the helmet on top of the upper back pouch)


http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/Golany1.jpg

(Just note, that I believe he has no helmet on , just he kept that ”Mitsnefet” (http://www.isayeret.com/camo/cover.htm) on like a hat to block the sun out)

Again thanks to all for answering.

Shalom :D

[AFSOC]
05-15-2004, 05:28 PM
ohhhh

hot damn i didnt even notice thatt

im used to seeing the colored ones thats why...

ZeroPositive
05-15-2004, 06:33 PM
excellent photos gotta love the Canadians in action :D