At least 7 Arab terrorists dead after Israeli Air Force stri

[seruriermarshal]

At least 7 Arab terrorists dead after Israeli Air Force strike on PA terrorist controlled Rafiah


At least 7 Arab terrorists dead after Israeli Air Force strike on Palestinian Authority terrorist-regime controlled Rafiah

Israeli military officials said that the long arm of the IDF will reach those responsible for the deaths of the 5 IDF soldiers today.

They decided on immediate counter-terror measures.

[UkrainianAmerican]

YEAAAY! woot

[incubz5]

Seven less killers in the world!

After that mother and her four daughters being gunned down, I would suggest the IDF take out seven hundred.

[seruriermarshal]

Seven less killers in the world!

After that mother and her four daughters being gunned down, I would suggest the IDF take out seven hundred.

Lose 7 sh*t In the world .

[Airborneranger4israel]

Yes!! There needs to be major retaliation for policy of not returning the IDF remains. i'm glad to see that some of the terrorist got "Sharowned"

[SeanAshi]

Shalom!
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[incubz5]

Sharon is Israel's Samson. He is the Lion.

Israel is a great nation. I can only pray and hope that Sharon is eventually superceded by someone like himself or Netanyahu. These men are leaders with vision, and they are decent, good hearted people who choose to fight thugs rather than shake hands and strike deals w/ them while sticking their country's backside against their Ream-O-Matic.

[Kilgor]

Seven less killers in the world!

After that mother and her four daughters being gunned down, I would suggest the IDF take out seven hundred.

its a interesting world we live in

Some old hate filled git in a wheelchair gets wasted, and the whole world reacts with anger to a "unlawful assination" but a mother and four daughters gunned down in cold blood means nothing.

:roll:

Very sad

[SeanAshi]

woot http://store3.yimg.com/I/netanyahu_1770_8224

[incubz5]

Sean,

You're rocking my world man.

Netanyahu...is da man. Loved his analogy of terrorism with 18th and 19th century piracy. He's very measured and everything he says comes from a seriously well-read acumen.

But no one beats Sharon for muscle. Liberals the world over may deride Sharon for fighting dirty in his younger days, but the man gets it done. Israel is lucky to have this hardliner as a true leader. The "intifada" is a joke now. He just comes down on the killers and another few years of this would be the right prescription for both Jews and Arabs alike. Kill the radicals, and that region will prosper fine. The majority of Palestinians want nothing to do w/ suicide bombings and AK47s.

[seruriermarshal]

Sean,

You're rocking my world man.

Netanyahu...is da man. Loved his analogy of terrorism with 18th and 19th century piracy. He's very measured and everything he says comes from a seriously well-read acumen.

But no one beats Sharon for muscle. Liberals the world over may deride Sharon for fighting dirty in his younger days, but the man gets it done. Israel is lucky to have this hardliner as a true leader. The "intifada" is a joke now. He just comes down on the killers and another few years of this would be the right prescription for both Jews and Arabs alike. Kill the radicals, and that region will prosper fine. The majority of Palestinians want nothing to do w/ suicide bombings and AK47s.

My friend , I don't know , why Palestinians say own poor ? they have more money buy weapon .

[ExtraT]

Sean,

You're rocking my world man.

Netanyahu...is da man. Loved his analogy of terrorism with 18th and 19th century piracy. He's very measured and everything he says comes from a seriously well-read acumen.


Yeah, Netanyahu is a sweet talker alright. And in places where this ability is the deciding factor he really shines.
Unfortunetly, as a Prime Minister he sucked. He gave in to the Left, let them kick him around.

[incubz5]

Extra,

I can see that. Still, he was no Yitzhak Rabin. And he certainly worships Sharon's leadership. That's evident w/ every interview he gives. Sharon is the anti-buearacrat.

[incubz5]

seruriermarshal,

The "Palestinians" as a group of people do not buy weaponry. The leadership of the Palestinians buys weaponry. Palestinians are hung from lampposts in the street for collaborating w/ Israelis, their children are goaded into strapping on body bombs, they have to endure Israel strikes against militants who hide among their children, etc.

The Palestinians are not the problem, a few really bad eggs are. Same w/ Iraq.

[seruriermarshal]

seruriermarshal,

The "Palestinians" as a group of people do not buy weaponry. The leadership of the Palestinians buys weaponry. Palestinians are hung from lampposts in the street for collaborating w/ Israelis, their children are goaded into strapping on body bombs, they have to endure Israel strikes against militants who hide among their children, etc.

The Palestinians are not the problem, a few really bad eggs are. Same w/ Iraq.

Thank you , the war will hard , in my life I hope can see win .

[incubz5]

I'm sure it will be.

Three years ago, there was only one democracy in the Middle East. Now there are three.

The region just got an injection of modernism. It will take years, but it will change. I like what Condelezza Rice had to say about the Bush Administration's real endgame in the war on terror: "This war will not be won under our watch."

The endgame is routing barbarism in the Middle East by using freedom. Today, thirty million Iraqis hum along to the tune of freedom. Ditto for a few million Afghans.

[SeanAshi]

Liberals the world over may deride Sharon for fighting dirty in his younger days, but the man gets it done. Israel is lucky to have this hardliner as a true leaderYou gotta thank Ehud Barak, Yasser Arafat and I guess :bash: Oslo

[Mark_Aspen]

Here's how fighters respond.





Reservists come to Gaza to support Givati troops
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN


A combat reserve battalion that recently finished training descended on the Gaza Strip Thursday to embrace Givati troops.

"We told the army we were ready to volunteer for duty and help out, but the army said it was too difficult for them to arrange it so quickly," said Lt.-Col. Ori Schechter, the battalion commander.

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Schechter said his battalion had large number of Givati veterans. Bearing over 150 kilos of cakes and hundreds of bottles of drinks, they decided to meet with the Givati troops near Rafah to show them support.

"This is not a political statement. We're not part of this debate for or against the Gush Katif settlement bloc. This is a spontaneous endeavor of reservists, from both left and right, who wanted to show solidarity with the standing army troops who are putting their lives on the line to defend all the citizens of the country," Schechter told The Jerusalem Post.

"We ended our reserve training on Wednesday. After I got home I started getting telephone calls from the guys saying that we couldn't sit by idly and had to do something," Schechter said.

He said that by Thursday afternoon some 40 reservists had showed up at the Givati base near Rafah and they expected more. The soldiers said that their employers had let them take off the time from work.

"We want to give them a feeling that we are all behind them and that they are not alone," he said.

He said that his battalion knew the meaning of loss since three of its members were killed in 2002 during Operation Defensive Shield. The reservists hoped to be able to use this experience to encourage the Givati soldiers and help them move on.

Senior commanders in the Gaza Strip welcomed the step and dispatched the troops to the base to receive the reservists.

[big80a2]

Here's how fighters respond.





Reservists come to Gaza to support Givati troops
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN


A combat reserve battalion that recently finished training descended on the Gaza Strip Thursday to embrace Givati troops.

"We told the army we were ready to volunteer for duty and help out, but the army said it was too difficult for them to arrange it so quickly," said Lt.-Col. Ori Schechter, the battalion commander.

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Schechter said his battalion had large number of Givati veterans. Bearing over 150 kilos of cakes and hundreds of bottles of drinks, they decided to meet with the Givati troops near Rafah to show them support.

"This is not a political statement. We're not part of this debate for or against the Gush Katif settlement bloc. This is a spontaneous endeavor of reservists, from both left and right, who wanted to show solidarity with the standing army troops who are putting their lives on the line to defend all the citizens of the country," Schechter told The Jerusalem Post.

"We ended our reserve training on Wednesday. After I got home I started getting telephone calls from the guys saying that we couldn't sit by idly and had to do something," Schechter said.

He said that by Thursday afternoon some 40 reservists had showed up at the Givati base near Rafah and they expected more. The soldiers said that their employers had let them take off the time from work.

"We want to give them a feeling that we are all behind them and that they are not alone," he said.

He said that his battalion knew the meaning of loss since three of its members were killed in 2002 during Operation Defensive Shield. The reservists hoped to be able to use this experience to encourage the Givati soldiers and help them move on.

Senior commanders in the Gaza Strip welcomed the step and dispatched the troops to the base to receive the reservists.


thanxs nice article

[big80a2]

seruriermarshal,

The "Palestinians" as a group of people do not buy weaponry. The leadership of the Palestinians buys weaponry. Palestinians are hung from lampposts in the street for collaborating w/ Israelis, their children are goaded into strapping on body bombs, they have to endure Israel strikes against militants who hide among their children, etc.

The Palestinians are not the problem, a few really bad eggs are. Same w/ Iraq.

so true, The Palies are really poor and they are often brainwashed. I really hope soon they will have better lives than before.
Let there dictator step down and the terror infrastruckture destroyed.

So to everybody visiting Israel soon buy a waterpipe in an arab shop for support of the real poor ;)

[Kampfbaer]

Israel won´t get security by such measures.

I know that some people at this forum will not be pleased by my opinion, but thats their problem.

You may expect people occupied for decades to take to desperate measures.

I do not think that the palestinians terrorist attacks are right or justified.

But a nationstate can´t answer terrorists by duplicating their acts.

Israel should arrest the suspected and put them on trial in a court.

The Israeli/Palestinian problem will only be solved by political means not by brute force.

[Whistler]

If they are put on trial they should definitely get the death penalty. If they are put in prison it will only cause more terrorists to take Israeli civilian hostages and try to trade them.

[Kampfbaer]

By putting them on trial Israel would show those terrorists the superiority of a democratic system and gain a valuable moral advantage.

Prior to the second Intifadah i was a staunch supporter of Israel.

But today they act the wrong way.

[hey]

Every day (and night) arrests of palestinen terrorist are taking place. and they have thier fare triel. this arrests conduct under a very big risk to the arresting forces. But Israel still do it.

Asessantions ocure only when there is no way to arrest the person and if he's not stoped there is clear evidens that terror acts would happen very soon .
Terror act - intenioly killing innocent men women and children .

In Israel there is no death penelty, other then the case of nazis involved in the holocost where the maximum punish is death.

[citizen-k]

Israel won´t get security by such measures.

I know that some people at this forum will not be pleased by my opinion, but thats their problem.

You may expect people occupied for decades to take to desperate measures.

I do not think that the palestinians terrorist attacks are right or justified.

But a nationstate can´t answer terrorists by duplicating their acts.

Israel should arrest the suspected and put them on trial in a court.

The Israeli/Palestinian problem will only be solved by political means not by brute force.

Just like the Jewish problem was solved in Germany, right? ;)

Palestinians do not have a leadership that a normal nation can negotiate with - and until they will have one, there is nothing else to do but kill each and every one of them who is a threat to Israel.

[citizen-k]

By putting them on trial Israel would show those terrorists the superiority of a democratic system and gain a valuable moral advantage.

Prior to the second Intifadah i was a staunch supporter of Israel.

But today they act the wrong way.

You think letting a suicide bomber to reach Tel-Aviv is the right thing to do?

This is not a struggle for freedom anymore, the Palestinians completely lost their mind - a nation who act like they do does not deserve to be a part of the human race.

There is no excuse, under any condition, to shoot 4 little girls age 2-11 from close range - non what so ever.

[UoUo]

By putting them on trial Israel would show those terrorists the superiority of a democratic system and gain a valuable moral advantage.

Prior to the second Intifadah i was a staunch supporter of Israel.

But today they act the wrong way.

Yeah...sure..we will lost life..but hey! we show them what is a democratic system! :roll: please...**** the democratic system i want to save my brothers lifes!!

[Kampfbaer]

@citizen-k You can say about the Hitler what you want to. I have nothing to do with this ****. I was born in 1973 that´s it!!!

A democratic elected government has no right to bomb any suspected terrorist. The police in for exymple L.A, or NY won´t bomb anyones neighbourhood becaus they suspect him of murder.

The Israelis have to change their uncivilized behaviour and do it soon.

And the palestinian terrorists have to stop their atttacks on israeli civilians right now!!!

[incubz5]

You may expect people occupied for decades to take to desperate measures.

ROFLOL!!!!!! Occupied? How have they been "occupied?" They had no state to speak of, a combination of Jews and Christians existed in that area for millenia with the Arabs. Everyone from the Romans, the Ottoman Empire, the Brits, and the UN have controlled those territories prior to Israel declaring itself as a state.

Anyone here even know the origins of Israel? The UN offered a plan for a dual state after the British mandate over that region expired. There would be a Jewish state and an Arab one with Jerusalem being an "international city." Sounded pretty good. Just one problem. The so-called Palestinians rejected the plan and, along with the Jordanians, began shelling the Jewish side of Jerusalem. The Jews kicked ass, declared their own state (that, I might add, was recognized by the UN, the United States, EVEN the former Soviet Union).

There was never a Palestinian state. There will be soon however thanks to the Jews and America, but let go of your "occupied" crap. It's baseless.

[ExtraT]

The police in for exymple L.A, or NY won´t bomb anyones neighbourhood becaus they suspect him of murder.

Tell me, ho the hell can you give an example like that? LA and NY are cities under complete control of law enforcement. They don't need to do any military actions, because they can go in, arrest the suspects, try and then punish them.

"Territories", on the other hand, are a ****en war zone.

[UoUo]

@citizen-k You can say about the Hitler what you want to. I have nothing to do with this ****. I was born in 1973 that´s it!!!

A democratic elected government has no right to bomb any suspected terrorist. The police in for exymple L.A, or NY won´t bomb anyones neighbourhood becaus they suspect him of murder.

The Israelis have to change their uncivilized behaviour and do it soon.

And the palestinian terrorists have to stop their atttacks on israeli civilians right now!!!

The IDF is the most human. POINT!.

When we choosed to send troops to gaza to bomb the place that are using to bulid rokets...and no bomb it from air...the pal' use this for there cause...soory but no mercy about those ****ers...and you never face this thing that calld "fear of death" evry time you take a bus..or going to eat pizza.

[hey]

LA and NY..
well LA and NY are not gaza.

if Israeli forces enter to Gaza to conduct an arrest, there will be fighting. More death of Israelis and a lot of more death of innocent palestinen civilens.
thats what you want Kampfbaer?

[Kampfbaer]

I´didn´t knew that some americans weren´t educated about democracy as we were in school. I´m sorry for your statement, because you failed the point!

Israel doesn´t want to have Jerusalem divided.

As for being occupied, if you are governed by a democratic nation and you have no rights to vote in any election for a couple of decades, then I wood say yuor´re "occupied.

Lets give the Palestinians Israeli citizenship and their chance to cast their vote and there won´t be any complaints by the Europeans.

[Kampfbaer]

@Hey

I do not want anyone to die, Israeli or Palestinian, but you have to decide, whether you want to be a respected nation or if you want to kill rows of innocents (with guilty between)!!!

Well if you like you may substitute L.A. and N.Y. with Hamburg and Berlin.

[UoUo]

I´didn´t knew that some americans weren´t educated about democracy as we were in school. I´m sorry for your statement, because you failed the point!

Israel doesn´t want to have Jerusalem divided.

As for being occupied, if you are governed by a democratic nation and you have no rights to vote in any election for a couple of decades, then I wood say yuor´re "occupied.

Lets give the Palestinians Israeli citizenship and their chance to cast their vote and there won´t be any complaints by the Europeans.

First...we offerd them east jeruslem in taba.

And sure...let's give the Palestinians Israeli citizenship. rofl

And btw: as i don't want to see Jerusalem divided.

You agree to give me half of berlin?

[Kampfbaer]

I would give you the eastern half of Berlin (just a joke), but thats not the point.

The Israelis will have to arrange themselves with the Palestinians at the long term.

Or the damnable murders on both sides will never come to an end. Point,

[UoUo]

I would give you the eastern half of Berlin (just a joke), but thats not the point.

The Israelis will have to arrange themselves with the Palestinians at the long term.

Or the damnable murders on both sides will never come to an end. Point,

"damnable murders on both sides"

Do not exist. point.

[Kampfbaer]

How would any civilized men call the slaughter of wives and children on both sides?

Collateral Damage ???!!!! :roll:

[UoUo]

How would any civilized men call the slaughter of wives and children on both sides?

Collateral Damage ???!!!! :roll:

We don't slaughter children or anybody...

Ignorance is bad :(

[Kampfbaer]

Don´t get me wrong I´m a volunteer member of an ambulance service for 13 years and have great respect for life, neglecting race, *** and religion but you have to see this war as neutral as possible.

[hey]

Kampfbaer

I do not want anyone to die, Israeli or Palestinian

Same here :|

What I'm trying to tell you is that by this asessantions Israel minimize the number of causulties. meaning - less death of Israeli and palestinien.
For you to know, many operations are being canceled when there is a risk of hurting civilens.

Sometimes when you hear about an asessantion of someone and then hear that 3 other palestinen killed with, most of the times its not innocent ones. they are his bodygurds or partners.

To make it short. There are two ways to stop a terrorist. To kill him or to arrest him. When an arrest is possible that is the way of action , when its not and it's sure that an arrest will bring alot of complications (the result of those-more death) a surgical asasenation is the coure of action.

[Kampfbaer]

@UoUo Just ask the family who lived next door to an suspected terrorist!!!

What would you say if someone killed Sharon and wasted the whole neighbourhood?

[UoUo]

@UoUo Just ask the family who lived next door to an suspected terrorist!!!

What would you say if someone killed Sharon and wasted the whole neighbourhood?

First of all...trying to say that shron is like a terorrist is very lame.

Seccend: we simly don't do this things..like i said : ignorance is bad.

[Kampfbaer]

I must confess that it is easier to judge the situation from the comfort of my own livingroom in Berlin.

But for a respected Nation there are fine lines that it doesn´t have to cross.

And Sharon did just this.

I do not want to upset anybody, just a discussion between civilized people. :D

[hey]

Kampfbaer

UoUo Just ask the family who lived next door to an suspected terrorist!!!

What would you say if someone killed Sharon and wasted the whole neighbourhood

When an entire neighbourhood of a suspected terrorist has been wasted???

[Kampfbaer]

Yor ignorance is a pity too.

@hey I don´t think that all pictures of so called collateral damage are fake.

[UoUo]

I must confess that it is easier to judge the situation from the comfort of my own livingroom in Berlin.

But for a respected Nation there are fine lines that it doesn´t have to cross.

And Sharon did just this.

I do not want to upset anybody, just a discussion between civilized people. :D

Believe me...even me can't judge my country and her sol'..i am just like you seat right now in comfort of my own livingroom...

But i know the facts...and soory..man..you don't. :D

[hey]

Kampfbaer,
Are you reading my posts? If you'r not , just say it and I'll stop wasting my time.

[hey]

Kampfbaer , maybe it will help when it's bold
hey wrote:

Sometimes when you hear about an asessantion of someone and then hear that 3 other palestinen killed with, most of the times its not innocent ones. they are his bodygurds or partners.

[Kampfbaer]

@ UoUo and Hey

I read your posts but obviously you didn´t read mine, i´m sorry for both of you.

Well maybe it´s just a little late and i need to get some sleep.

I didn´t meant to flame anybody, if anybody feels personally attacked i didn´meant to.

I just told you my humble opnion.

[Kampfbaer]

@Hey

You might be right at this point, maybe the media doesn´t always transport the picture right.

[UoUo]

@ UoUo and Hey

I read your posts but obviously you didn´t read mine, i´m sorry for both of you.

Well maybe it´s just a little late and i need to get some sleep.

I didn´t meant to flame anybody, if anybody feels personally attacked i didn´meant to.

I just told you my humble opnion.

Yes....you didn't offend me...but you simply don't know the fact...and i think mostly feed from your pro arab media...so..what can i say?

Have a good night..and i am going to get some sleep as well. 01:47am

[Kampfbaer]

I wish all of you a good night too.

I hope that the killing will cease soon and that there is a chance to discover the beauty of Israel and Palestine as a tourist without risk.

I hope to see two prospering countries in the future.

Thanks for the hard and fair discussion lads. :D

[hey]

Kampfbaer wrote:

I just told you my humble opnion

And chose not listen to main.


i´m sorry for both of you

Save your sorrys for others.

Good night

[Kampfbaer]

I´m sorry if i ignored an argument you brought in.

I wish you a good and peaceful night.

[Golani68]

incubz5 you are my new best friend
you tell them


What the outside world do not get and I think will never get it

the Israeli do want an end to this
but what ever happens the arabs will not stop
till they rid are land of jews

I do not care what they say
this is what is in there minds

[Kampfbaer]

The integrity and safety of Israel has to be guaranteed in the presence and the future by military and political means.

But this is an discussion for another evening.

Good night to you!

[SeanAshi]

[/quote]I hope that the killing will cease soon and that there is a chance to discover the beauty of Israel and Palestine as a tourist without risk.
[quote]Arafat and other terror groups do not see Israel they only see Palestine, and Jerusalem as its capital, of course they are living in a fantasy world.

[AirZone]

We do want end to this conflict.. thats why we are going to pull out from Gaza (so do i).. but i dont think its good to stop the operations inside Gaza when they make bombs and rockets against Israel cities (inside the "green lines") see ?

Its not always black and white..


And if you ask me historicaly they shouldnt have a country becuase they are not really palastines...but reality says we must...becuase we are human ;\ but the media loves to jump on the jewish horse.. ah well we really dont give a **** about the world and we are doing things our way and look we succeed (less terrorists acts) rather to listen to all the hyporcites mofos in europe goverment...

[IDFM203]

Well I see its turned into yet again another debate on the whole conflict, well this time I cant be arsed (as the Brits say ;) ) to get into it yet again, I mean I got this Iran/Israel nuke thing to go over (which I will get to later on ;) ), however I just want to make two comments.

Firsts is……….


Every day (and night) arrests of palestinen terrorist are taking place. and they have thier fare triel. this arrests conduct under a very big risk to the arresting forces. But Israel still do it.

Asessantions ocure only when there is no way to arrest the person and if he's not stoped there is clear evidens that terror acts would happen very soon .
Terror act - intenioly killing innocent men women and children .


…………Great post :D

Secondly to Golani68

Wow great location :D (I am honored my friend)

What can I say other then thanks and believe me based on your past comments as well, Id follow you as well if need be.

Shalom :D