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plato
09-12-2007, 12:16 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070911/ap_on_re_as/china_ex_soldiers_riot


By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN, Associated Press Writer Tue Sep 11, 9:41 AM ET

BEIJING - Thousands of demobilized Chinese soldiers rioted last week at training centers in at least three cities in an extremely rare series of coordinated demonstrations, a human rights group said Tuesday.

Former troops smashed classrooms, overturned cars and set fires to protest their poor living conditions, the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy reported.
At least 20 people were injured and five arrested when riot police moved in to quell the disturbances, which started on the afternoon of Sept. 3, it said.
The center said about 2,000 ex-soldiers took part in the riots in the cities of Baotou, Wuhan, and Baoji, spread over a 775-mile stretch of eastern China. Reports posted on the Internet along with video clips appearing to show some of the violence said the disturbances were even more widespread, but gave few details.
The reported protests, which authorities refused to confirm, were notable for their level of coordination, something not seen on a nationwide scale since the 1989 pro-democracy demonstrations in Beijing and several other cities.
They also follow a string of recent campus unrest by students angered by poor living conditions or administrative changes that reduced the value of their diplomas.
However, they were the first incidents reported involving former soldiers, who are usually deferential and loyal to the communist regime.
Demobilized soldiers are frequently rewarded for their service with government jobs, and 6,000 of them were sent to 12 different railway schools in July for two years of training, the reports said.
However, they were angered by run-down dormitories, bad but expensive food and a lack of study materials, according to the center and Internet reports.
Dorm rooms did not have electrical outlets and students were charged 75 cents each time they charged their mobile phones, the reports said.
The reports said classes have been suspended and police moved in to patrol.
Phones at the Baotou school rang unanswered, while officials who answered at the Baoji and Wuhan schools refused to comment on the reports or further identify themselves. The Railways Ministry that runs the schools did not immediately reply to faxed questions.

Noble713
09-12-2007, 04:40 AM
You'd think soldiers would be accustomed to substandard living conditions. I suppose that's why these guys were okay with being released from the military in the first place. If I went to a school that had dorms worse (or even similar to) a military barracks I'd be pretty pissed too.

seruriermarshal
09-12-2007, 05:24 AM
Sad news , seems like a large event .

Ed Robinson
09-12-2007, 06:42 AM
You'd think soldiers would be accustomed to substandard living conditions. I suppose that's why these guys were okay with being released from the military in the first place. If I went to a school that had dorms worse (or even similar to) a military barracks I'd be pretty pissed too.

How do you think I felt when one of my mates took me around a prison in West Australia.
If you put carpet in the cells they would be motel rooms. Certainly a lot better than my room in the barracks when I was a digger..
:-(

Ordie
09-13-2007, 12:48 AM
You'd think soldiers would be accustomed to substandard living conditions. I suppose that's why these guys were okay with being released from the military in the first place. If I went to a school that had dorms worse (or even similar to) a military barracks I'd be pretty pissed too.

The majority of Chinese are now working in the private sector. It is not uncommon for the private employers to provide housing, meals and services for thier employees. New employment standards and norms such as benefits and profit sharing are being introduced.

It seems that the only options for the discharged PLA is the railway with no choice in posting. I would be pissed too if I served and all I got is a crappy job, while by classmates are earning good money in the private sector. Age discrimination is the norm and many feel they have wasted thier time in the PLA.

Zerazax
09-13-2007, 02:51 AM
Its sad but a lot of people even here don't want to join the military because of that too

FIA_cn
09-14-2007, 11:02 AM
Reports posted on the Internet along with video clips appearing to show some of the violence said the disturbances were even more widespread,

any links there?

Mastermind
09-14-2007, 02:05 PM
Ha...sounds almost exactly like the school where I first learned to drive semi trucks for the oil field. Cold, miserable, electricity hardly worked, in the boonies, and the roaches in the eatery were considered patrons. The pay was good, though...the only time my feet got warm was when we were actually driving. Winter of 1976, Somewhere in the Oklahoma Panhandle. We didn't riot, though....our instructors would have kicked our ever luvin asses.