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SeanAshi
05-13-2004, 12:38 AM
So where the hell is the outrage at the Chenchens? They behead captured Russian soldiers everyday! Where is the outrage?
American Patriot
05-13-2004, 12:42 AM
They don't behead them everyday you dolt :lol:
ArmedPacifist
05-13-2004, 12:43 AM
You want outrage? I'll give you outrage.......
Kilgor
05-13-2004, 12:49 AM
im having this exact debate on another website forum now
People dont give a **** unless it suits their politics.
There is no americans or jews in the chechen conflict, so the left doesnt have a cry about it
grrr :bash:
http://www.*********.com/chechenya.html
this stuff is bad :(
Midav
05-13-2004, 12:49 AM
First time I've heard that Russian soldiers are being beheaded.
Even when I lived in Europe, I never heard of such things.
If true, may God have mercy on the souls of those committing these atrocities.
Seeing Mr Berg's video was enough and his screams will be something I'll never forget.
I hope anyone that does this type of **** die a slow and miserable death. I have no pity for them.
Midav
05-13-2004, 12:54 AM
Kilgor-- Just a warning to anyone that visits that site, be careful.
Sick videos on there.
They need to kill every single one of those jihadist ****s.
Throw them to the pigs alive. Make them suffer.
The US, Israel, Russia and ever single nation with two brain cells need to unite to fight these bastards.
where you been all that time?
there is alot of videos how they kill russian solders.
its going on for years
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
05-13-2004, 12:56 AM
Theres plenty of respect for the Russian soldier, after all they are just doing there job like anyone else in there situation.
I've heard of incidents of Chechens beheading Russian captives, although its something I wouldnt want to see with my own eyes. Its horrible, but whats even more horrible are the people who do this....
incubz5
05-13-2004, 12:56 AM
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
It's beheading civilians, missionaries, aid workers, and pregnant mothers that I have a problem with.
Can I have an amen?
SeanAshi
05-13-2004, 12:57 AM
Seeing Mr Berg's video was enough and his screams will be something I'll never forget.
Thats why I haven't watched it, I already seen the ones of the Russians being slaughtered, I wished I hadn't seen it.
Midav
05-13-2004, 01:02 AM
Seeing Mr Berg's video was enough and his screams will be something I'll never forget.
Thats why I haven't watched it, I already seen the ones of the Russians being slaughtered, I wished I hadn't seen it.
Yeah just saw another one of a Russian having his throat slit.
Admit I'm crying right now.
I'm not going to watch the other videos. I can't.
Midav
05-13-2004, 01:04 AM
I will add one thing, however.
Just like seeing Mr Berg's video, seeing this one gives me a deep sense of hatred.
A hatred I have never thought possible.
May the ****ers that do this rot in hell.
American Patriot
05-13-2004, 01:04 AM
It's sad that Russian soldiers were beheaded in Dagestan in 1999 but it has nothing to do with the current situation in Iraq.
The Bergman video is a good wake-up call to the American sheep on why Bush needs to be re-elected, nothing more.
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
It's beheading civilians, missionaries, aid workers, and pregnant mothers that I have a problem with.
Can I have an amen?
problem is they doing that in worst way what you can think of, with rusty saw, or batter knife, you think its OK to do?
Midav
05-13-2004, 01:11 AM
AmericanPatriot-- I posted that in a seperate forum.
If nothing else came out of the slaying of Nick Berg, then at least the reelection of Pres. Bush.
A lot of people saw the video, and those same people are pissed.
Very pissed.
They know Bush will do the job.
Chris0176
05-13-2004, 04:28 AM
Yes, please turn this into a political issue.. It makes me sick when people tries to make this into a "good thing for bush".
This thread has an interesting point though, I have known about the Russian soldies being beheaded for some time and I have even seen some of the videos from it. The one differance(that doesnt make either case better or worse) is that Berg was a civilian. The sad part is that has been stated in the thread before, is that the russian problem has not been shown in any media while this is a major story. I think offcourse that the incident with Berg should be a major story, but also the problem the russians have should be noticed.
I have skipped the possibility of watching the movie, after watching all the russian videos I've had enough of this.
n.ignomo
05-13-2004, 04:41 AM
Actually the really sad thing is that he wasn't a soldier. But soldiers fighting over there since may 2003 have seen much more impressives stuffs. You can't talk about war just by looking at politicaly corrects movies where you're alive or die as soon as you're hit. Tried to have in mind those who don't die (and I hope they really want to live, in their position i really don't know how i would think).
Maybe we could talk again about children burnt to death....but who cares anyway those were irakis ! :bash:
Stavka
05-13-2004, 09:01 AM
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
It's beheading civilians, missionaries, aid workers, and pregnant mothers that I have a problem with.
Can I have an amen?
No, beheading soldiers isnt fine, unless you dash off into war swingin a katana or some similar sharp object. Read up a bit on international law before posting.
To sum it all up for you:
Killing the enemy is OK.
Killing an injured enemy is not OK.
Killing an injured enemy that is trying to kill you is OK.
There are also rules that apply to the treatment of prisoners. Summary execution of prisoners isnt OK.
The Clip
05-13-2004, 09:08 AM
Chechen scum have been doing it for long. They are ****ing pig ****ers which I killed. I am not going to watch the video, i will cry and not stop. We did alot of thing to captured rebels but nothing in documents and nothing I ever saw or took part in. I did hear about another unit who started a trend of taking off their head and putting them on tanks and trucks for show also I though I saw 1 on a Peshka but it maybe i am wrong. rofl Muslim scum will burn in hell. Rebel murderers do these thing for pleasure, bacause they sick. If you have any good in you at all then do not watch them. As for the piece of this who said it was "OK" to behead people then you are clearly Muslim mislead scum or a hate of the Russian people. Rebels are not human they are animals they have no consept of ethics or UN principles. They fight like savages and most of them are obese and die quickly while under fire. The recieved help from capitalist pig Clinton, who hated Russia. :-*$ :bash:
Russian Texan
05-13-2004, 10:22 AM
Please, someone, ban Clip!!!
Saranof
05-13-2004, 10:29 AM
don't think many people would find this nice, russian, american, iraqui or chechnyan.
Come on, it dosn't happed that often. And the russians probly do pretty nasty things to the rebels aswell.
ExtraT
05-13-2004, 10:29 AM
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
Where in hell did you get these ideas?? They behead not just soldiers, but PRISONERS! After all, to slowly behead somebody with a rusty knife you have to capture him, tie his hands behind his back, set up the camera, etc..
How in hell can you put this kind of atrocity on the same page with people getting killed in a fight is beyond me.
ExtraT
05-13-2004, 10:31 AM
Please, someone, ban Clip!!!
Why????? :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Russian Texan
05-13-2004, 10:52 AM
Please, someone, ban Clip!!!
Why????? :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Because he is an imposter who has neither been to Chechnya nor served in the military and does nothing but slurs racial/hatred comments.
incubz5
05-13-2004, 11:19 AM
Stalin accused Chechens of helping Germans during World War II and sent the entire nation into exile, killing about one-third of them in the process.
No wonder they're pissed.
incubz5
05-13-2004, 11:25 AM
Killing an injured enemy is not OK.
ROFLOL! Since when?
You can just see this absurdity carried out during, say D-Day. American soldiers storming the beach on megaphone: "Nazis...are there any of you wounded? Will the wounded please get to one side of the beach?"
mack pl
05-13-2004, 11:31 AM
Killing an injured enemy is not OK.
ROFLOL! Since when?
You can just see this absurdity carried out during, say D-Day. American soldiers storming the beach on megaphone: "Nazis...are there any of you wounded? Will the wounded please get to one side of the beach?"well, sometimes injured enemys could be dangerous.they could be boby -traped or something like that.If im correct in Chechnya it was happens(Russians here know more about it).Well, dead enemy could be danger too.Its not joke.If you put grenade under dead body, and some soldier check this body and remove it, grenade could explode into his face.Peoples have many ideas how to kill other ppl.........im not soldier, i know **** about it, but its only my 2 cents..........Regards :)
shrek
05-13-2004, 11:39 AM
If the videos of Russians being beheaded and tortured are not on Russian television, then that sounds like a YOU issue to me there brother!!
incubz5
05-13-2004, 11:49 AM
Hey folks, how about dealing with Russian/Chechnyan crisis w/ a little more even-handedness?
On February 5, 2000, Russian forces engaged in widespread killing, arson, rape and looting in Aldi. The victims included an eighty-two-year-old woman, and a one-year-old-boy with his twenty-nine-year-old mother, who was eight months pregnant
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hrwpubs/rus06.html
The intrusion of the troops into Chechnya in December 1994 wasn't "a necessary measure" but the result of the thoroughly elaborated diversion against the republic that dared to become independent. And again - punishment of the whole nation. Here's some statistics of the first Chechen war. 118 000 citizens of the republic died (this is every seventh citizen) including 1893 gunmen. 30 000 became disabled and the majority of them are children. 70% of the industry, all Grozny's hospitals (except #9 and #3) and schools were destroyed. 17 villages were completely ruined and 46 partially. Only one third of Grozny's buildings remained. One third of Argun's building were destroyed. (Pogrom - Internet-newspaper "Separatist" of Russian Movement for Chechnya's Independence, 2000, # 29)
http://www.watchdog.cz/index.php?show=000000-000004-000004-000003-000014&lang=1
The Russians have always fought dirty.
DrunkenMaster
05-13-2004, 12:00 PM
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
Where in hell did you get these ideas?? They behead not just soldiers, but PRISONERS! After all, to slowly behead somebody with a rusty knife you have to capture him, tie his hands behind his back, set up the camera, etc..
How in hell can you put this kind of atrocity on the same page with people getting killed in a fight is beyond me.
good point I agree
OB Kenobi
05-13-2004, 12:39 PM
Where in hell did you get these ideas?? They behead not just soldiers, but PRISONERS!
Here you go (it's just an article no gore):
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9812/08/chechnya.01/
That's one thing Americans don't seem to understand. If somebody attacks Russia, the next country they attack will be America.
Bush-Reagan didn't understand that either, when they created the Mujahedeen.
Sorry, had to throw that in there so you don't go around mistakenly believing that Clinton was the only one who supported Islamic terror.
Don't worry, I can criticize Russia too if you want. :P
incubz5
05-13-2004, 12:44 PM
Where in hell did you get these ideas??
The Soviet Union killed over a third of the Chechnyans on the planet, obliterated their cities, devestated their land, and have scores of atrocities under their own belts.
It always makes me laugh to hear people sing about the Geneva Convention in wars like this. The Soviets MURDERED one out of every three Chechnyans and you're griping about some of them cutting off the heads of some Russian soldiers?
Get a grip.
5jumpchump
05-13-2004, 01:28 PM
Beheading soldiers is fine. Soldiers fight. Soldiers shoot at you. They Chechnyans shoot at them (is it really a leap to say that blowing their heads off with a mortar round or well-placed sniper bullet is cool, but cutting it off is not???).
It's beheading civilians, missionaries, aid workers, and pregnant mothers that I have a problem with.
Can I have an amen?
I'm all out of amens so how about a nice warm cup of STFU :slap:
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