Judge: Fiancee Can Harvest Dying Man's Sperm

[2Sheds_Jackson]

IOWA CITY, Iowa — The family of a dying Bonaparte man can harvest his sperm for his fiancee, a judge ruled Thursday.

The unusual case involved Daniel Christy, 23, who was critically injured in a motorcycle accident Sunday and was expected to die soon. Unconscious, he had suffered a series of strokes since Tuesday night and has little brain activity, his family said.

On Wednesday, Christy's parents asked staff at University Hospitals for some of his sperm for Amy Kruse, who he had been engaged to marry in September 2008.

An emergency court hearing was held, and the judge allowed the request.
"I'm not just doing it for him, or because I want kids," said Kruse, a 23-year-old from Hillsboro. "He was Tom and Sherry's only son and this is the only chance to have part of him left."

Hospital administrators initially balked at the request, asking for a court order, said the Christys' attorney, Lori Klockau of Iowa City. Hospital officials said Iowa's Uniform Anatomical Gift Act, the statute that regulates human organ donations for transplant, didn't apply, Klockau said.
"They said the law was intended to prolong existing life, not to create new life," she said in an interview.

Thursday morning, Christy's parents filed an application for emergency orders, asking the court to give the hospital authority to treat the sperm like other donated organs and tissues. The application included an affidavit from University of Iowa law professor Sheldon Kurtz, who drafted the state's anatomical gift act. Kurtz wrote that the committee drafting the law intended to legally permit gifts of semen.

Hospital officials said after the hearing that they would no longer stand in the way of the Christys' request.

Brian White, legal counsel for the hospital, declined comment.
"We're here to take care of our patient," he said.

Hospital spokesman Tom Moore also declined comment, citing patient confidentiality.


If you ask me, this goes beyond "wrong" and into "sick" territory. Never mind that the selfish bitch is creating children with no father. Well as long as she gets what she chooses...maybe she can abort one or two just to enjoy the ultimate in choosiness.

[Ordie]

Well, if he's going to be a stiff, he might as well have a stiff.

[California Joe]

It's disturbing.

"Hey if they jerk off your comatose son I can smear it on my uterus and give you a little half replica of him. Cool huh?"

[Herrmannek]

Wow. much beyond wrong and sick. What if the poor bugger doesn't want to have baby with that crazy bitch?

@2sheds, wow its funny we have same pick of words when it comes to the bitch playing with dead man genitals :). Isn't that considered rape? Imagine someone assaulted almost-dead woman. Same ass hats would like him to fry on electric chair like there was no tomorrow...

[2Sheds_Jackson]

It's disturbing.

"Hey if they jerk off your comatose son I can smear it on my uterus and give you a little half replica of him. Cool huh?"

Well jeez CJ when you put it that way it doesn't sound so bad.


Isn't that considered rape? Imagine someone assaulted almost-dead woman. Same ass hats would like him to fry on electric chair like there was no tomorrow...

I remember reading somewhere that some poor bastard was responsible for paying child support for children that were conceived using his frozen sperm from a sperm bank. Although I guess it's not likely...what if this guy pulls through and comes out of a coma in 10 years only to find his lovely fiancée married to another guy -and then she sues him for 10 years of back child support. Only in America do we jump over every possible hurdle to complicate life to this extent. :cantbeli:

[Calanen]

On Wednesday, Christy's parents asked staff at University Hospitals for some of his sperm for Amy Kruse, who he had been engaged to marry in September 2008.



While the case raises some interesting issues, from a legal perspective the ruling seems sound. Everyone that could consent legally, has - ie the parents as the next of kin, and the fiancee is for it also as the reason why its occurring, so what's a judge to do but sign the orders?

The hospital doesn't have a say, not really unless it was that the action would endanger the care of the patient. If the parents said no, it's likely that this would have been the end of it all.

By the way, I'm just talking from the legal perspective, rather than the ethical one. This is something that has to be dealt with by the legislature, if folks feel strongly one way or another. On existing law - seems to be the right ruling. The comatose patient can of course, not consent to anything, meaning that his relatives get to determine such things.

[Herrmannek]

While the case raises some interesting issues, from a legal perspective the ruling seems sound. Everyone that could consent legally, has - ie the parents as the next of kin, and the fiancee is for it also as the reason why its occurring, so what's a judge to do but sign the orders?

The hospital doesn't have a say, not really unless it was that the action would endanger the care of the patient. If the parents said no, it's likely that this would have been the end of it all.

By the way, I'm just talking from the legal perspective, rather than the ethical one. This is something that has to be dealt with by the legislature, if folks feel strongly one way or another. On existing law - seems to be the right ruling. The comatose patient can of course, not consent to anything, meaning that his relatives get to determine such things.
I can't find how this can be legal? This is no organ to transplant, this is no part of treatment, its simple mutilating body(I guess its a crime in US) and/or rape or attempted rape, because you can't persuade me fertilization is not an ****** act...

[2Sheds_Jackson]

While the case raises some interesting issues, from a legal perspective the ruling seems sound. Everyone that could consent legally, has - ie the parents as the next of kin, and the fiancee is for it also as the reason why its occurring, so what's a judge to do but sign the orders?

The hospital doesn't have a say, not really unless it was that the action would endanger the care of the patient. If the parents said no, it's likely that this would have been the end of it all.

It's supposed to be the end of it all. It's death. It has a certain finality to it, by design. It's why dead people can't produce children - they make poor parents.

I don't agree that "Everyone that could consent legally, has". Where is it written that my parents are entitled to decide whether or not I will create children? Isn't that choice left to me alone? Will they support and father the children? Will they ensure they're given the values I'd want? Will they make sure she doesn't re-marry to some clown who abuses them because they're not his? Where is it written that a woman I'm not married to has a say at all - and of course saying "I do" to marriage is by no means the same as agreeing to have children. I see absolutely no consent given by the single person entitled to give it.

[jeffe]

That's an incredibly selfish thing for her to do. How could she possibly explain this to the fatherless child. BTW, this is my home state.

[RECON DOC]

At least he gets to blow one last load.

[Calanen]

It's supposed to be the end of it all. It's death. It has a certain finality to it, by design. It's why dead people can't produce children - they make poor parents.

I don't agree that "Everyone that could consent legally, has". Where is it written that my parents are entitled to decide whether or not I will create children? Isn't that choice left to me alone? Will they support and father the children? Will they ensure they're given the values I'd want? Will they make sure she doesn't re-marry to some clown who abuses them because they're not his? Where is it written that a woman I'm not married to has a say at all - and of course saying "I do" to marriage is by no means the same as agreeing to have children. I see absolutely no consent given by the single person entitled to give it.

I think you are debating with me as to morality of what occurred, rather than the legality of it. I think a lot about the latter, very little about the former - I'd go mad if it was any other way. I don't yet have a view either way about the morality of this , I'd probably need to think about it some more, although as I say, it does raise some interesting ethical questions. Perhaps the Supreme Court has to decide this one way or another, or better still, the legislature expressly according to the will of the people.

[Pralix]

The World According To Garp.

[RECON DOC]

The World According To Garp.


**Last gasp** "Goooood!"

[Hollis]

The World According To Garp.


Thanks, I have been trying to think of a responce.. yours seems to do well.

[PaulClift]

I think its wrong, the guy gets no choice, unless her partner signed some sort of consent form that if he dies she can give him a hand shandy.

If she is a milf and I was single, she could harvest mine :D

[SOG]

thats just ****ed up. to even consider it is beyond mental. she is one sick puppy as well as her parents. wtf!

[California Joe]

It's his parents. Apparently she is their perfect idea of a necrophiliac daughter in law.

[Thor]

Turn it the other way around.

Would it be ok to impregnate a woman who is in a coma, or would it in fact be rape?

[shocker1]

Well that sucks, she should swallow her pride and move on.

[boone]

Turn it the other way around.

Would it be ok to impregnate a woman who is in a coma, or would it in fact be rape?
I've heard of pregnant women being kept on life support until near-term. Does that count?

[Thor]

I've heard of pregnant women being kept on life support until near-term. Does that count?
I hope you don't have jury duty in Canada..

[Brute]

Imho, she's a courageous, selfless woman. It'd be much easier for her to just walk away and find another guy. I salute her and her bf's parents for giving the dying man a chance to have a progeny.

I would hate to have my family tree end with me just because of some freak accident and would want my GF to do the same for me if I were to end up in a situation like that.

[Brute]

Also, to those saying that it is wrong/disgusting to try and reverse Nature's course, and that his GF and parents should've let him die childless, I say this:
What about the solders who get seriously injured in Iraq and elsewhere, and who would've died of their wounds just a few decades ago had it not been for the medical advances since that time?
Maybe we should let Nature run its course and instead of saving them, let them die just for the sake of it being more natural?
Maybe we should just forsake all those unnatural advances in our modern world, all those vaccines and drugs that keep us protected from deceases and extend our lives, and just get back into the caves of our ancestors and, just like them, die by the time we are 30?

So what, if he did not manage to impregnate his fiancee in a natural way, maybe they wanted to do it after their wedding and the freak accident changed all that. Kudos to them for attempting to beat the odds using the wonders of modern medicine to give the dying man a heir. To have a GF that is so devoted to me that she is willing to have my child even after my own death would be a great honor.

[muck]

Imho, she's a courageous, selfless woman. It'd be much easier for her to just walk away and find another guy. I salute her and her bf's parents for giving the dying man a chance to have a progeny.

I would hate to have my family tree end with me just because of some freak accident and would want my GF to do the same for me if I were to end up in a situation like that.

Delete the first part, I'm not sure whether it realls has something to do with courage. But I agree with the rest.

[Brute]

Delete the first part, I'm not sure whether it realls has something to do with courage. But I agree with the rest.

The courage lies in the fact that she may have to raise the child alone (well, the boyfriend's parents should help) and that's a tough proposition for anyone. The selflessness comes from her having the much easier option of choosing another man and yet, despite that, still agreeing to honor her dying BF and bear his child so as not to leave him heirless.

[Xaito]

well although its unfortunate that they can't ask him I agree with Brute. Personally I'd be sad if I'd died without leaving behind an offspring so if it was my fiancee who'd do that for me - giving birth to my child even though I'm already dead and can't help her raise it etc. - I'd know that I've chosen the right woman.
I think this case shows that she really did love him.

[California Joe]

Yeah, cause the world would be so worse off if you guys didn't get a chance to procreate.

If you jokers died in a freak accident I'd chalk it up to God cleansing the gene pool.

[Xaito]

I don't believe in God.

[California Joe]

Good answer. Well played. You heathen.

[Thor]

Maybe I'm getting too cynical here, but perhaps the guy's parents are well-off. The child would inherit his grandparents estate.

[SOG]

It's his parents. Apparently she is their perfect idea of a necrophiliac daughter in law.

his parents!? WTF! thats even more screwed up! i got it backwards. wth... time to apply a home castration! rusty pliers...