GSG9 in Iraq

[Shadow]

Are there any Pic'S of GSG9 giving personal protection?

[JohnJohn]

why would they be in Iraq doing anything?

[Gringo]

No 1. Germany didn't support the war and did not contribute any personel (as far as I'm aware of)

No 2(hehe!). GSG9 only operate within Germany, and not abroad. I've heard that they maybe at Germany Embassys, as they r German soil.

I may be wrong, feel free to correct me, just don't insult me.

[FallenAngel]

Eagle is right. GSG9 is more like the biggest baddest SWAT team in Germany than Spec. Ops.

now...the KSK *IS* pretty damn high-speed. THere ARE pictures of them in Afaghanistan. ;)

[Argyll]

They maybe CPD on Saddam Hussein though!!! :lol:

[Shadow]

I heard in the news that an iraqy minister was attack by some idiots and the GSG9 killed those idiots.

[96B]

The word Grenzschutzgruppe (GSG) means Group of border control and I am not sure as to them operating outside of Germany but if you read the translation it seems like they do not.

[FallenAngel]

...is there an echo in here? rofl

[Shadow]

I can only repeat what I have heard.

[EvanL]

GSG9 is a Federal Spec-Ops team but they were involved in the Mogadishu hijacking situation, so they can operate outside of the country if they need to.

[Andy]

So her ist it:
http://www.netzeitung.de/spezial/irak/245213.html



and I am not sure as to them operating outside of Germany but if you read the translation it seems like they do not.

The GSG9 is in Germany and outside. The GSG9 was in Afghanistan and Iraq to to protect German minister.

Andy

[Gringo]

GSG9 is a Federal Spec-Ops team but they were involved in the Mogadishu hijacking situation, so they can operate outside of the country if they need to.

The KSK didn't exist in 1977, so "who u gonna call?" "Ghostbust... I mean, GSG9!!!"

Not sure about GSG9 in Afghanistan. They might had been at the German Embassy where the German Minister was staying, thus German soil.

[steel bonnet]

The KSK were posted in Kuwait prior to the war. moreso to act as a Protection force for German Citizens. As they spent some time training with Allied troops there.

ja
steel bonnet

[Andy]

Not sure about GSG9 in Afghanistan

But I'm very sure :D

[Gringo]

The KSK were posted in Kuwait prior to the war. moreso to act as a Protection force for German Citizens. As they spent some time training with Allied troops there.

ja
steel bonnet

But I meant not a part of the Coaltion. And he asked if they were in Iraq not Kuwait.


But I'm very sure

But I'm not! But I'm not saying your a lier or anyting like that, but it's possible that they could be there on body guard and close protection duties.

[steel bonnet]

Well one theory if KSK were in Iraq,would have been to protect the German Press.
After all KSK is charted with protecting it`s own people in foreign nations.

Though l tend to find that hard to believe a group of trained Anti terrorist operators,there to protect the Press from there nation.

Ja
Steel bonnet

[to free the oppressed]

Scremingeagle i think i heard that they found four helocopters in iraq with german insignias on them.i'm not so sure if i'm right i just heard it.

[Gringo]

u mean that Cross insignia?

[Andy]

But I'm not!
Here stood that the GSG 9 the first Special Forces form Germany in Afghanistan was. www.bundesregierung.de

KSK in Kuwait: The KSK was in Kuwait on a training with British SAS, SEAL'S and Ausrtralien SAS! But not for the war!.

@to free the oppressed,

This is new for me! can you tel me who that said? Do you have any Photos? Thats very intersting!

Andy

[JohnJohn]

Scremingeagle i think i heard that they found four helocopters in iraq with german insignias on them.i'm not so sure if i'm right i just heard it.

Coalition troops came across acouple of German BK117 helos and a US made helicopter with Iraqi markings that was imported from Jordan ;)

[Shadow]

But I'm not!
Here stood that the GSG 9 the first Special Forces form Germany in Afghanistan was. www.bundesregierung.de

KSK in Kuwait: The KSK was in Kuwait on a training with British SAS, SEAL'S and Ausrtralien SAS! But not for the war!.

@to free the oppressed,

This is new for me! can you tel me who that said? Do you have any Photos? Thats very intersting!

Andy

Ich schwör das kam im ZDF gestern in den Nachrichten als von weiteren Übergriffen auf US-Soldaten berichtet wurde.

[Gringo]

WAS!? Ich kann nicht Deutsches sprechen.

Brunnen, was Sie wissen!

[Shadow]

I swear it came on the Second Channel of German Television yesterday in the messages of the further attacks on US soldiers

Wow google can translate Shortforms.

[Gringo]

What!? I can't speak English.

Well what do you know!

[bluered12]

unfortunatelly I coudn´t find a better picture:
http://bilder.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2003/06/29/attentat/attentat__B__ellner,property=Bild.jpg

[seventy6er]

GERMAN EMBASSY CASE
A recent incident involving the German Embassy provides evidence that the bandits are increasing the level of violence along the road
* the German Embassy updated its security procedures for travel into Iraq, which now include the requirement to travel in armoured vehicles if possible with the support of a heavily armed GSG9 close protection team
* these precautions were put to the test when a convoy was attacked in the Ramadi region. Well aware of the danger, the GSG9 team was scanning the road for potential attackers when a Nissan Patrol overtook the convoy and then held steady in front of the convoy at a distance of 100 metres. A few minutes later the Nissan activated its hazard warning lights, braked and then turned sideways to block the road. Immediately the lead German vehicle saw gunfire hitting the asphalt to their front and side. The Germans quickly initiated their well-rehearsed plans: the convoy went into reverse at high speed while the GSG9 officers in the lead vehicle returned fire; the attackers opened fire as they passed the convoy, but the GSG9 personnel had enough warning to direct precision fire at the gunmen. It is unclear if the bandits were killed or injured, but they were stopped from continuing the attack.

Since this report was received, there have many more attacks on different convoys and vehicles using that route, all of whom were stopped or fired upon by armed attackers. At present both the UK and US governments are playing down the overall threat in Iraq.

[seventy6er]

GSG9 saved German diplomats on “Ali Baba Highway”



Baghdad/ Amman, June 20th 2003



The 550 km long highway between the Jordanian-Iraqi border and Baghdad has achieved notoriety among the many civilians who use the route to travel into Iraq. On numerous occasions, humanitarian missions, diplomats, journalists and ordinary civilians travelling on the highway have been held up at gun-point by heavily armed gangs who ply the route in nondescript sedans looking for easy prey. The usual scenario is that bandits approach the rear of a convoy and then brandish weapons to force drivers to stop. Vehicles not complying with the order to stop have been shot at and at least two people have been killed and several wounded in these incidents. Those who do comply are lucky to “only” undergo a strip-search where they are liberated of cash and electronic equipment.



While there is a US presence along the road at random intervals, to date, the troops have not been able to quell the rampant banditry along the highway. Non-military travellers are therefore required to collect their own intelligence on road conditions and to develop contingency plans for encounters with bandits. A recent incident involving the German Embassy provides evidence that the bandits are increasing the level of violence along the road.



After having been the victim of a highway robbery in April, the German embassy updated its security procedures for travel into Iraq, which now include the requirement to travel in armoured vehicles if possible with the support of a heavily armed GSG9 close protection team. In June, these precautions were put to the test when a convoy was attacked in the Ramadi region, 120 km West of Baghdad.



The German convoy left the Jordanian border with five vehicles. Soon after entering Iraq, one of the vehicles had a mechanical problem and was towed back to a secure location in Jordan. Having lost valuable time, the convoy, now consisting of two embassy vehicles and two GMC taxis, entered the Ramadi region at dusk.



Well aware of the danger, the GSG9 team was scanning the road for potential attackers when a Nissan Patrol overtook the convoy and then held steady in front of the convoy at a distance of 1000 meters. A few minutes later, the Nissan activated its hazard lights, braked and then turned sideways to block the road. Immediately, the lead German vehicle saw gunfire hitting the asphalt to their front and side.



The Germans quickly initiated their well-rehearsed plans. The convoy went into reverse at high speed while two GSG9 officers in the lead vehicle returned fire. While the embassy staff vehicles followed the GSG9 commander’s orders, the two taxis panicked and drove straight toward the bewildered attackers at full speed.



Meanwhile, the other two vehicles managed to reverse to a safe distance where they could assess the situation. Neither vehicle was hit, but the fate of the taxi drivers was unclear. Now in total darkness, the GSG9 had to decide whether to drive back to Jordan or to accept the risk of being attacked again while continuing on to Baghdad. After deciding on the latter, the attackers were spotted on the other side of the highway coming towards the remnants of the convoy. Again, the attackers opened fire as they passed the convoy, but the GSG9 had enough warning to direct precision fire at the gunmen. It is unclear if the bandits were killed or injured, but they were stopped from continuing their attack.



On arrival in Baghdad, one of the taxi drivers was waiting at the German embassy and he reported that neither taxi had been hit and that the other driver had also made it to Baghdad without further incident.


http://www.fieldmission.com/images/gsg_02.jpg

http://www.fieldmission.com/images/gsg_03.jpg

http://www.fieldmission.com/images/gsg_04.jpg

[Tributal]

http://www.fieldmission.com/images/gsg_03.jpgIs it just me or does that pic look like the worst Photoshop image ever?

[Rantanplan]

Yeah, the flag looks faked.

[TriggerPuller]

Nice muzzle discipline in that first pic!

TP

[Tributal]

Yeah, the flag looks faked.As does the weapon in his hand. On my monitor it looks like a pasted in Sterling SMG.

[Rantanplan]

Oh yes, that looks weird.

[obd]

Those arnt even GSG-9 for christs sake. They are German PMC's. Those same pictures were posted eslewhere as PMC's....hell I dont know maybe they are GSG9 but they sure as hell look like German PMC's to me.......