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Beowulf
05-13-2004, 03:38 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040513/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_libya_6

WASHINGTON - Libya has agreed to halt military trade with North Korea (news - web sites), Syria and Iran. The move, announced Thursday by Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton, follows a decision by Tripoli to stop its programs to develop weapons of mass destruction. It was hailed as welcome news by Bolton, who said North Korea had provided Libya with its Scud missiles.



All three countries, especially North Korea, are "of very great proliferation concern" and Libya's renunciation of military relations with them is an important step forward, Bolton said.


North Korea is the world's greatest proliferator of ballistic missile technology and its sale of Scud missiles to Libya "was a pretty substantial money earner" for Pyongyang, Bolton said.


North Korea then used the money to finance its nuclear weapons program, he said.


Bolton said Libya also would announce shortly a promise to renounce trade in missile and missile-related equipment with countries that do not subscribe to international control of missiles.


While Bolton said "we are satisfied with the progress we have made" with Libya on weapons systems, he said some aspects of the North African country's chemical weapons program still need to be eliminated and the retention of some Scud missiles remains an issue.


In Tripoli, the Libyan foreign ministry formally announced "it will not deal with any products or military services with countries it considers as a source for weapons of mass destruction."


The move is in line with a decision by Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to steer the country toward the good graces of the United States and the West by abandoning major weapons programs.


Last month President Bush (news - web sites) took steps to restore normal trade and investment ties with Libya, moving to allow resumption of oil imports and most commercial and financial activities as a reward to Gadhafi for eliminating his most destructive weapons.


Libya's actions "have made our country and the world safer," the White House said. But significant sanctions remain on the books as an inducement to Libya to resolve issues that are still pending.


In an extraordinary move, Gadhafi agreed last December to dismantle Libya's biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs.


In response, the administration two months ago lifted a ban on use of American passports to travel to Libya.


"Through its actions, Libya has set a standard that we hope other nations will emulate in rejecting weapons of mass destruction and in working constructively with international organizations to halt the proliferation of the world's most dangerous systems," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.


Last year, Libya removed a major obstacle to more normal relations with the United States by meeting U.S. demands stemming from the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in 1988. Libya accepted responsibility for the bombing and promised to pay $10 million in compensation to each family of the 270 victims.


In addition to the economic steps the White House announced, fledgling diplomatic ties will be upgraded to permit the opening of liaison offices in Washington and Tripoli. This would be a prelude to the eventual establishment of normal diplomatic relations.


The easing of sanctions imposed in 1986 and those called for under a 1996 Libya sanctions law will allow a resumption of oil imports from Libya and permit most commercial activities, financial transactions and investments.

Trigger
05-13-2004, 03:51 PM
Thanks b.

Flames in 3...2...1...

usa320
05-13-2004, 04:16 PM
Definately good news.

woot

2Sheds_Jackson
05-13-2004, 04:41 PM
Man, I don't know what to think about Lybia. I vividly remember the Lybia of the 70's & 80's...I can't help thinking that this is some kind of horrible set up. But I guess there's nothing to do but let them follow through.

Trigger
05-13-2004, 06:38 PM
I remember back in 1986 I think, Libya sent a pair of MiG 23s against a pair of our Tomcats. I still have the unedited video/audio from one of the Tomcats that aired as 'breaking news' on CNN. You can hear the pilot chatter, calling out heading and altitude changes. If I recall the first F-14 launched a Sparrow at around 15 miles and scored a kill. A few seconds later the second F-14's gun camera becomes active as he closes to Sidewinder range. The RIO is shouting at him 'Shoot! Shoot!', Pilot replies 'I can't get a tone' 'Shoot!' 'I can't get a f**king tone!' Then you can hear the 'growl' or tone of the Sidewinder as it starts tracking...
Whoosh!
Bang!
Splash!

Now I gotta go home and find it...

Ichhabe
05-13-2004, 08:10 PM
Man, I don't know what to think about Lybia. I vividly remember the Lybia of the 70's & 80's...I can't help thinking that this is some kind of horrible set up. But I guess there's nothing to do but let them follow through.

It seems that the isolation and sanctions against Libya have worked. Colonel Gadhaffi that came to power in Libya at the stunning low age of 27 was in his younger years a radical and a beliver of Pan-Arabism.
Years have passed, and he may have soften up a little. His attempts in trying to get in to the warm and comfort international companionship is now about to sucseed. I want to belive that he is actually honest about this, and that he, ever so slowly will soften up the way he rule in Libya.

But they have still a long way of walking, before they even get close to honour even the simples human rights. They do have political prisoners. They do use torture. They still uses the death penalty. And they still have limited freedom to their citizens.
But Gadhaffi is a survivor, and an expert on this field. He may only come in as second best when it comes to surviving assasin-attemps, only beaten by Fidel Castro. But Gadhaffi aint dumb. He knows that if he want to survive, and when the time come, when some of his sons is going to take over; he need the comfort security of the international community.

I sincerly hope that Libya will start their much needed reforming, and we, in the international community need to help Gadhaffi doing this.
Only the years ahead will show us.

Here is a homepage, with tons of information upon Libya. Very informative.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dr_ibrahim_ighneiwa/