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Sloppy Joe2
09-24-2007, 06:57 PM
After a Friday editorial on page four in the Collegian that said "Taser this … F---BUSH" sparked national uproar and controversy regarding free speech, Editor in Chief J. David McSwane will go before CSU's Board of Student Communications (BSC) Wednesday to defend his job. The expletive was spelled out about twice the size of a headline.

BSC has authority sanctioned by the Board of Governors of the CSU System to fire the editor in chief.

McSwane and the Collegian Editorial Board are standing by the decision.

"The Editorial Board felt very strongly that its time college students, especially CSU students, start talking about issues," he said. "We're zealots for freedom of speech and we felt that after Andrew Meyers on the University of Florida campus was pulled from his mic and abused … that we started getting people to talk."

But he added that the board didn't realize the full consequences of the decision.

"There were some unintended consequences," he said. "I think we've caused a lot of grief to the advisors and we've certainly affected our own advertising."

An undisclosed amount of Collegian advertising money has been lost since the editorial was printed.

McSwane said that the editorial wasn't about the president, but about freedom of speech.

"I think it's been blown a little bit out of proportion, it's been turned into more of a political issue," he said. "Historically our "Our Views" are not in favor of President Bush. Very often we slam him on that same section, so the issue wasn't what we said, it was how we said it. To us, it was a free speech issue."

The Collegian will not be suspended by the university.

CSU President Larry Penley issued a statement regarding the editorial that said while the university doesn't have the authority to halt printing of the publication, it expects deeper journalistic integrity from its student journalists and does not support the editorial.

"While student journalists enjoy all the privileges and protections of the First Amendment, they must also accept full responsibility for the choices they make," Penley said in the statement.
One CSU teacher expressed his support for the Collegian's choice with a word of caution.

"I would support the paper no matter what it said," said local attorney and journalism instructor Lee Christian. "But I fear that it is going to lose some integrity among the community."

Christian applauded the Collegian editorial board for taking the initiative to start such controversy in an industry that he said has become less bold than it should be.

"It shows that he (McSwane) has got guts," he said. "I don't know that the mainstream media is doing what's necessary to promote freedom of speech."

He said some other publications refuse to spell the f word out because they fear social ramifications. "This shows what power that word has when newspapers are afraid to print it."

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Christian had advocated for free speech in a Collegian article printed the same day as the controversial editorial.

One CSU student called into question the sincerity of the Collegian's editorial decisions, mentioning a mistake in a news story several weeks ago.

"The first article, when they used "s---" got more attention than it should have and to print something like this makes me wonder if they are really sorry for the first article," said Jessica Petrisak, a biological science freshman.

But McSwane says that is a completely different issue as a hard news story.

But others students support the editorial board's actions.

"My opinion is that they should say whatever … they want to say," said Matthew Johnson, an open option freshman.

CSU College Republicans issued a written request Saturday for McSwane to resign his position.

"This is not a free speech issue," the request stated. "(I)t is an issue of journalistic integrity."

The group will hold a petition signing in the Plaza asking for McSwane's resignation Monday.

http://media.www.collegian.com/media/storage/paper864/news/2007/09/24/News/Collegian.Editorial.Sparks.National.Uproar-2986434.shtml



i think this is complete horse ****!

LMAV
09-24-2007, 07:04 PM
"It shows that he (McSwane) has got gutsYeah, he such a rebel.

BadKarma26
09-24-2007, 07:04 PM
What does Bush have to do with some idiot yelling at John Kerry and getting tased?

Midav
09-24-2007, 07:09 PM
I see J. David McSwane being a NYT Editor one day...

onefast93z28
09-24-2007, 07:37 PM
If I'm not mistaken, there is case law that says the 1st Amendment doesn't cover foul language directed at another person, or something to that effect...

gaz
09-24-2007, 07:40 PM
I wholeheartedly endorse headlines that swear at politicians. The next one should be aimed at Gordon Brown, I hate that f*cker.

Alpheus
09-24-2007, 08:16 PM
What does Bush have to do with some idiot yelling at John Kerry and getting tased?

Absolutely nothing.
But clearly, logic or reasoning never entered into those morons thought process.
If they really wanted to promote free speech, they should have printed an article about Ahmedinnerjacket and the "freedom" of the press in Iran.
Printing this **** achieves nothing.

Sloppy Joe2
09-24-2007, 08:18 PM
Absolutely nothing.
But clearly, logic or reasoning never entered into those morons though process.
If they really wanted to promote free speech, they should have printed an article about Ahmedinnerjacket and the "freedom" of the press in Iran.
Printing this **** achieves nothing. i have visted this college twice since being on leave(friend lives there), these people believe IN THERE OWN freedom of speech, that where the topic ends for them.

Thumpsquid
09-25-2007, 05:00 AM
I wholeheartedly endorse headlines that swear at politicians. The next one should be aimed at Gordon Brown, I hate that f*cker.

Oh I agree, but do you think he'd even notice he'd been sworn at? As political automata go, he's practically zen-like in his self belief

I can't think of a name
09-25-2007, 05:43 AM
This is where higher education is headed here in America. At least in the worthless liberal arts majors who consider "**** Bush" difficult mental discipline.

grenadier07
09-25-2007, 07:44 AM
"It shows that he (McSwane) has got guts,"

Yes because going along with the crowd and saying what alot of other people are voicing right now is just so courageous. I would have been more impressed by his gutsiness if he had written an article in support of Bush.

LMAV
09-25-2007, 07:51 AM
What does Bush have to do with some idiot yelling at John Kerry and getting tased?

If you haven't already noticed over the last 4 years, Bush is to blame for everything.

c62
09-25-2007, 06:28 PM
I don't care so much that the editor dropped an F-bomb on the President. But I would like to know if he thinks the headline "**** McSwane" is as good an idea.

clean
09-25-2007, 06:43 PM
What he did was trivialize what i think it was he WANTED to say. It's immature, amatuerish, and reflective of what a college student is capable of. They're stupid kids, living free and clear of mommy and daddy while having that free life financed by them.

usa320
09-25-2007, 07:59 PM
What he did was trivialize what i think it was he WANTED to say. It's immature, amatuerish, and reflective of what a college student is capable of. They're stupid kids, living free and clear of mommy and daddy while having that free life financed by them.

id respectfully disagree.... While this type of behavior is EXPECTED from liberal academia, i certainly think its far from TYPICAL. Most college students keep there mouths shut, do their time, and then go on to be professionals...

On the other hand, there are those who take advantage of the government/parentally paid ride, run their cockholsters a bit too much, act like the ideal bag-o-douche, graduate with a degree in some bull**** discipline like "Social Justice Studies" to spend their years as college professors, indoctrinating the future generations with their complete and utter ignorance and occasionally enjoying intellectual masturbation in the form of poorly rendered, unsupported reports and articles in largely
discredited academic journals, never having experienced the world outside of the safe and cheerful environment of the classroom.

Firetxmi
09-25-2007, 09:49 PM
id respectfully disagree.... While this type of behavior is EXPECTED from liberal academia, i certainly think its far from TYPICAL. Most college students keep there mouths shut, do their time, and then go on to be professionals...

On the other hand, there are those who take advantage of the government/parentally paid ride, run their cockholsters a bit too much, act like the ideal bag-o-douche, graduate with a degree in some bull**** discipline like "Social Justice Studies" to spend their years as college professors, indoctrinating the future generations with their complete and utter ignorance and occasionally enjoying intellectual masturbation in the form of poorly rendered, unsupported reports and articles in largely
discredited academic journals, never having experienced the world outside of the safe and cheerful environment of the classroom.

May I ask where you graduated from?

IraGlacialis
09-26-2007, 01:01 AM
What a little ****. The only thing Bush had to do with this is when he was mentioned by the tazeree.

What he did was trivialize what i think it was he WANTED to say. It's immature, amatuerish, and reflective of what a college student is capable of. They're stupid kids, living free and clear of mommy and daddy while having that free life financed by them.
Uh huhh...
I hope you are only refering to the obscure liberal arts majors.
Many of us in this engineering school worked hard to get here. And we respect our armed forces.