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AFO
09-25-2007, 05:38 PM
This is a question regarding the difference between a Sig Sauer P229 and a P226 other than the size. I found this on wikipedia.

"The P229 differs from its cousin, the P226 in several respects. The P226 is a "full size" pistol, while the P229 is considered compact. The P226 originally was manufactured using a stamped-steel slide on an aluminum alloy frame. The P229 consists of a milled stainless steel slide, typically colored black with a Nitron finish (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nitron_finish&action=edit). The P226 and P229 are both available with optional accessory rails and optional forged stainless steel frames."

Other than may be the quality is there any real benefit to using a P229? Any one with operational experience with the weapon system ??????

StukaJr
09-25-2007, 06:01 PM
Sig P229 is a compact handgun while Sig P226 is a full size handgun - thus the former is smaller than the latter... I've only shot P226 and P228 (not 229), but not enough to make comparisons.

But longer barrel and weight come to mind. No experience...

Freibier
09-25-2007, 06:12 PM
Just my 2c:
I'd stay away from any SIG with aluminium frame.
I saw too many of them (228s mostly) develop cracks after less than 25K rounds and then you have an expensive paper weight (usually its cheaper to get a new gun than have the frame replaced).
Steel slide on alu frame just accelerates the process

SMGLee
09-25-2007, 06:43 PM
P229 uses a stainless steel slide which are heavier and bit wider then the P228 or the P226.

P228 is more of a direct decenent of the P226 where as the P229 are a more developed design made to coup with the higher pressure 40SW.

After awhile, SIG just stop making the P228 all together and move the two lines together and market the P229.

brianm423
09-25-2007, 07:22 PM
You will be fine with ANY Sig pistol. If you're looking for a compact model, you might want to wait for the new P250 that will be available in a few months.

LaoSexMachine
09-25-2007, 10:54 PM
I own a P229 in .40SW. Love it. A little heavy for a compact but I'm beginning to carry as my conceal now and then.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/eh1656/100_1197.jpg

Royal
09-26-2007, 04:11 AM
Other than may be the quality is there any real benefit to using a P229? Any one with operational experience with the weapon system ??????

The 228 or 229 can be carried as a concealed weapon. The 226 can't - unless you're about 6'6". It's no less accurate and equally effective. It's also alot easier to handle if you have small hands - something that doesn't just apply to female operators.

theholeinthedonut
09-26-2007, 04:13 AM
Just my 2c:
I'd stay away from any SIG with aluminium frame.
I saw too many of them (228s mostly) develop cracks after less than 25K rounds and then you have an expensive paper weight (usually its cheaper to get a new gun than have the frame replaced).
Steel slide on alu frame just accelerates the process

I hate to agree with you Freibier! I 've seen some old 226 with haircracks and even bigger cracks that had to be dumped. Alltough an armourer told me that Sig had resilved the problem a few years ago. Anyhowe I bought an SIG 226 SL with steel frame.

punchinout
09-26-2007, 04:19 AM
i think SMG Lee already said this, but the 229 was an evolution of the 228, its really beefed up to handle the .40S&W and the .357SIG cartridges. The 229 is a milled steel slide where as the 228's were stamped carbon steel.

I've only heard of a few issues with 229's, slides cracking, all from Coast Guardsmen.

My boss owns a 229 loves it, and one of our guys carries one everyonce in awhile, got to shoot some .357Sig out of it a few months ago, its fun, flame thrower.

Can't go wrong with Sig, i miss the 220 i traded. I'll be buyin a 225 when i can find the money and one in decent condition.

AFO
09-26-2007, 08:02 AM
To be honest whether it’s able to be concealed isn’t really an issue it’s going to be carried overtly any ways. I was just trying to see if the would be any benefit to a P229 and from what I see only the size which doesn’t really matter. Not that am complaining about it just fine it strange to buy a compact weapon rather than the full size P226 ???

Ment to say it will be using 9mm JSP ammunition.

AFO
09-26-2007, 08:05 AM
The 228 or 229 can be carried as a concealed weapon. The 226 can't - unless you're about 6'6". It's no less accurate and equally effective. It's also alot easier to handle if you have small hands - something that doesn't just apply to female operators.

I think this may be the reason here. Do you thing the small hand thing is a big issue between the P229 and P226???

Royal
09-26-2007, 08:39 AM
I think this may be the reason here. Do you thing the small hand thing is a big issue between the P229 and P226???

If you were an AFO, you'd know the answer to that.

But then you'd also know that it’s not always carried overtly...

Chops
09-26-2007, 10:21 AM
If you were an AFO, you'd know the answer to that.

But then you'd also know that it’s not always carried overtly...

Looked at the rest of his posts boss? Strange mix of Met/Modplod terminology and really doesn't seem to have a Scoobies. AFO? Nah, ****.

Royal
09-26-2007, 10:24 AM
Looked at the rest of his posts boss? Strange mix of Met/Modplod terminology and really doesn't seem to have a Scoobies. AFO? Nah, ****.

Yeah,

Didn't smell right so I had a dig around...

Lets see if he has the balls to front up :)

AFO
09-26-2007, 11:38 AM
Sorry gents not going to explain my self to you if you dont want to help me then fair enough, as for the AFO thing not going to explain my self to that either. Just a simple question to see if any one could help me out. As for the overt carry belive it or some police forces dont carry out covert armed operations. If you want to argue this point further then please feel free to personal message me and you can lock this one up since am sure there will not be any more on the topic posts and chances are things are going to get personal.

Thanks for your post any one who posted cheers

Royal
09-26-2007, 12:41 PM
Sorry gents not going to explain my self to you if you dont want to help me then fair enough, as for the AFO thing not going to explain my self to that either.

If you put yourself up as an AFO on a board, be prepared to put up or shut up - and get binned, in the case of this site.

It's a small world and we can find out if you are what you say you are.

Last chance - are you an AFO with Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary?

California Joe
09-26-2007, 12:46 PM
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

AFO
09-26-2007, 02:24 PM
Royal you have been PM'ed

Royal
09-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Royal you have been PM'ed

Like I said it's a small world. I've emailed a couple of people about an airsofting SAS wannabe working at a certain establishment on the Clyde - somehow I don't think the replies are going to be all that positive.

California Joe
09-26-2007, 03:04 PM
*snicker*...

Laworkerbee
09-26-2007, 03:06 PM
My ass hurt after reading that.

AFO
09-26-2007, 03:22 PM
Like I said it's a small world. I've emailed a couple of people about an airsofting SAS wannabe working at a certain establishment on the Clyde - somehow I don't think the replies are going to be all that positive.


LOL am sure they wont and if some one does know me at a certain establishment on the clyde I would take it its a marine you know ??? am sure they will know me !!!! and if its a cop am sure he/she wouldn't put their job on the line to settle some stupid argument on a forum on the internet.
Can I ask why this has got this far I was asking a question that I wasn't able to get an answer to any where else and I thought I would get an answer on here out of pure interest rather than any other reason, then it gets personal with you asking other people about me ??? As for a airsofting SAS wannabe that really hurts lol I have played airsoft from time to time but I dont go about telling people am in the SAS nor A police officer nor that I have played airsoft a few times but if thats what you think then fair enough in future if you or any other mod doesn't ban me or what ever i will just keep my questions to my self.

California Joe
09-26-2007, 04:32 PM
"Is that you John Wayne..."

Actually Royal asked you to clarify why you called yourself "AFO" and you began bullsh*tting and backpedalling in standard Walt fashion. You stepped on your ****.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1958/345367945ljr0.jpg

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34501&d=1190832290

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34500&d=1190832290

AFO
09-26-2007, 04:33 PM
No am afriad its not, As i said am not here to explain my self to any one

Laworkerbee
09-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Is this me
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34500&d=1190832290

D-gin
09-26-2007, 04:43 PM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3865/1190835505440ob8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Royal
09-26-2007, 04:51 PM
You stepped on your ****.

Ooops.

Why is no-one happy with their lives?

If you wanne be something go out and be it. Put some bloody effort in and you might just surprise yourself.

Chops
09-27-2007, 06:00 AM
... but I dont go about telling people am in the SAS nor A police officer nor that I have played airsoft a few times...

So why do you claim to be a cop in your profile here at mp.net? That still a crime in the UK Royal?



If you wanne be something go out and be it. Put some bloody effort in and you might just surprise yourself.

Because he looks like he enjoys his pies too much! And from the state of that face, I daresay he's still sniffing finger :-)

Seraphim
09-27-2007, 09:58 AM
Because he looks like he enjoys his pies too much! And from the state of that face, I daresay he's still sniffing finger :-)
rofl

This past week has been great. And we all thought they came out when schools out.

Royal
09-27-2007, 10:39 AM
So why do you claim to be a cop in your profile here at mp.net? That still a crime in the UK Royal?

Impersonating a police officer? Yes.

Impersonating a police officer

(Section 90 Police Act 1996) (Archbold 22-62) creates several offences relating to the impersonation of police officers or the possession of articles of police uniform, namely:

impersonating a police officer (including a special constable);
making a statement or doing any act calculated falsely to suggest membership of a police force;
wearing a police uniform calculated to deceive;
possessing an article of police uniform.


Oooops.....


Because he looks like he enjoys his pies too much! And from the state of that face, I daresay he's still sniffing finger :-)

Good point.

Silent 6
09-27-2007, 10:50 AM
I was looking forward to an intelligent conversation about the Sig 229, a gun that I own and love dearly! Why, it's damn good at putting rounds on target. It's compact, I have a medium/large size hand and it fits perfectly. The 226 feels awkward in my hand. I like the weight of the 229, mine is a .40SW, and it's fairly heavy, compared to Glocks, but I like the weight. It reminds me of what is in my hand. Mentally that reminds me of the responsibility I carry when I'm using/carrying my sidearm.

Like I said, I was looking forward to an intelligent conversation about the Sig 229, doesn't look like there's gonna be one.

I hate it when wankers waste bandwidth to pose.

DeltaWhisky58
09-27-2007, 12:06 PM
is it just me or does SASPIEMUNCHER remind anyone of RMPCOP??

You may have a point there Kev, both Scottish and very similar. Do you have a name for this knob other than Walter - PM me if you do, I remember RMPCOP's name.

Geojap
10-01-2007, 12:16 AM
I'll contribute something. I simply love Sig Sauer semi-auto pistols. I've owned Glocks, 1911's, CZ's, Springfield XD's, Makarovs, Smith and Wessons, Taurus, etc. Sigs are my favorite all-around pistol, without a doubt.

I live in the USA, in a free state (Texas), and citizens can carry concealed handguns to protect our Liberty here, if we are responsible citizens with no felonies or other serious malfeasances.

I use one of two handguns for daily carry. If I want to put on the holster inside my belt before I leave the house, then I carry a Sig 239 in .40 S&W. The Sig 239 is single-stack and slightly thinner than a 229. The 239 does hold 5 fewer rounds of .40 S&W than the 229, unfortunately. I carry the 239 because it is lighter than the 229 and easier to conceal.

I also own a Sig 229 in .40 S&W. Both are very fine pistols and I have never had a failure in either. The triggers break cleanly and lightly; they are exceptional. But the Sig 239 is much more comfortable to carry (and conceal) on my body in the hot weather in Texas. I usually leave the house in shorts, sandals and a thin t-shirt nine months out of the year, and the thin Sig 239 is easier to keep concealed under a t-shirt on my waist.

This is the holster that I use for my Sig P239:
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/beltslide.html

I'm a huge fan of the Sig pistol. That is why I own both the 229 and the 239. They are exceptional pistols in my opinion. Both work exceptionally well. The only pistol which I think is a finer shooter than the Sig is the Belgian Browning/FN Hi-Power; that is a beautiful handgun. But it is a little too large to carry on my body inside my waistband so I went with the Sig.

When I don't want to holster up and just want to leave the house quickly, my second carry choice is a 5-shot Ruger SP-101 revolver in .357 Magnum in a Desantis Nemesis holster in my front pocket. :-)
Ruger SP-101:
http://www.jasonphillips.org/offsite/SP101_Pocket.jpg
http://www.jasonphillips.org/offsite/SP101_Holster.jpg
http://www.jasonphillips.org/offsite/SP101_Out.jpg