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mikec62001
10-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Is there any difference between British Desert DPM and New Zealand Camouflage Patterns?

They look very very similar to me?

Thanks in advance

M

Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 12:20 PM
Thats just you, they are completly different.

Limeyfellow
10-09-2007, 12:52 PM
The main differences are an increase in yellow tan colours in the design.

Lerch
10-09-2007, 07:47 PM
The patterns are the same, but the colors are a bit more 'tropical' on the NZ version.

ICUS
10-09-2007, 09:26 PM
Is there any difference between British Desert DPM and New Zealand Camouflage Patterns?

They look very very similar to me?

Thanks in advance

M

Depends on what version of NZ DPM you are talking about. There are at least 8 different colour variations of DPM camouflage that have been issued by the NZ Defense Forces since the 1980s. Certainly the original drawings were influenced by British DPM, but if memory serves me each NZ variant contrasts in some way from the British patterns.

As for British DPM, there have been well over a dozen different colour variations issued over the years, so it would be difficult to answer the question without a couple of specific examples referenced in comparison to each other. Suffice to say, there is tremendous variety in colour, style, and fabric just within the subject of DPM camouflage itself.

2/1kiwi
10-10-2007, 02:12 AM
sorry about the small pic, Brit DPM smock, rest Kiwi DPM.

Ubar
10-10-2007, 03:00 AM
Did everyone who relpied so far miss the word 'Desert' in the original post?

theholeinthedonut
10-10-2007, 03:06 AM
Did everyone who relpied so far miss the word 'Desert' in the original post?

No but the difference inbetween the Desert DPM and Kiwi DPM are......huge.... so!

2/1kiwi
10-10-2007, 03:18 AM
haha lol, heres our "desert dpm" dont have a brit one to compare it to thou,
hope it helps;:)

Lerch
10-10-2007, 03:35 AM
The desert uniforms themselves differ (the NZ is a bit more like the British teabags), while the pattern and colors currently are almost the same.

ICUS
10-10-2007, 11:08 AM
Did everyone who relpied so far miss the word 'Desert' in the original post?

My mistake. Yes, I am afraid I did miss that. However, my answer would effectively remain the same, but with different numbers. The UK has produced at least four different types of "desert" DPM camouflage, and NZ has as least two colour variants based on the same drawings. I believe the NZ pattern is based on the British dense two-colour pattern schematic, which is still currently used, but I think the 2 Kiwi versions incorporate slightly different colours. Of course, the design of the uniform, fabrics used, buttons, and other features have always been completely different on NZ uniforms.

mikec62001
10-10-2007, 12:45 PM
QUOTE - Wikipedia

The New Zealand disruptive pattern material, also known as the New Zealand DPM, is the official camouflage uniform used by the New Zealand Armed Forces. It features a mix of greens and yellows, and is similar in many aspects to the British Disruptive Pattern Material and in the 70's to the American Army

Link: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_disruptive_pattern_material

miguelencanarias
10-11-2007, 05:40 PM
My mistake. Yes, I am afraid I did miss that. However, my answer would effectively remain the same, but with different numbers. The UK has produced at least four different types of "desert" DPM camouflage, and NZ has as least two colour variants based on the same drawings. I believe the NZ pattern is based on the British dense two-colour pattern schematic, which is still currently used, but I think the 2 Kiwi versions incorporate slightly different colours. Of course, the design of the uniform, fabrics used, buttons, and other features have always been completely different on NZ uniforms.

Hi ICUS. I only remember three different types of desert DPM: the original 'SAS pattern' (the one sold to Iraq), the Gulf War I and the current one (basically the same than the previous, with slight differences in colour). Which one am I missing?

bluffcove
10-11-2007, 06:04 PM
Briefly there were dots around the edge of the coloured patches to brek up the outline of each individual colour patch. But its not the new stuff I think it went out with the rip-stop Smocks (which were also a lighter colour)

ICUS
10-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Hi ICUS. I only remember three different types of desert DPM: the original 'SAS pattern' (the one sold to Iraq), the Gulf War I and the current one (basically the same than the previous, with slight differences in colour). Which one am I missing?

Hi Miguel - here is how I would categorize them: the original pattern (a four-colour desert DPM) which, as you wrote, was originally sold to Iraq, then copied by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, and a host of others. Then, GW1 which was a two-colour pattern with dense dispersion of the disruptive shapes. Following this, a "sparse" two-colour (the disruptive shapes are larger, but more sparsely dispersed). And now the recent era, which again is more densely dispersed, but with different colours (and there are several types of uniform issued in this pattern - the 94 pattern, the S95, et al). Technically, I guess the 2nd (dense) pattern is the same as the current one if they are laid side-by-side and the shapes directly compared to each other, but I usually differentiate them because they were produced at different times and the styles of uniform changed.

Cheers!

hammerlock
10-13-2007, 09:37 AM
Any chance someone can post more NZ pics? The one's seen make it hard to compare the two.

2/1kiwi
10-14-2007, 07:11 PM
2 closest i could find
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