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Argyll
05-14-2004, 03:56 PM
Ok tech heads,where can I purchase one of the M4 CQBR cut down rear sights,my company in Iraq is aqquiring M4's over the next few weeks ,so I'm told,and I'd like to have the cut down rear sight with an EOTECH mounted on the upper reciever.

Any info will be greatly appreciated

Fintin
05-14-2004, 04:05 PM
alot of the ones i have seen are normal rear sites that someone took a hack saw too...i have seen that there is a company actualy makeing something like that now...this is from an airsoft site, but i think they are selling the real thing http://www.a2g2.com/whatsnew/CQBR/

over at lightfighters they have a few flip up kinds...http://www.lightfighter.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=88

TRACER_BULLET
05-14-2004, 04:20 PM
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=7713

http://mstn.biz/

see if wes or paul @ mstn can help not sure about shiping outside the usa

also check out www.ar15.com

Zentrum Jagdkampf
05-14-2004, 04:32 PM
I have seen some good products made by Knight´s Armament!

ibstolidude
05-14-2004, 04:48 PM
Argyll - check PM.

Argyll
05-14-2004, 04:53 PM
http://www.a2g2.com/whatsnew/CQBR/01.jpg

This is the setup I'm looking at minus the foregrip

Thanks for the info so far guys ;)

Uncle Sam
05-14-2004, 05:29 PM
OOOOHHHHH...Pretty...I want one...
http://www.a2g2.com/whatsnew/CQBR/01.jpg

TRACER_BULLET
05-14-2004, 05:35 PM
I have seen some good products made by Knight´s Armament!

I don't think KAC makes a fixed BUIS ... LMT is where its at ;)

rob
05-14-2004, 07:04 PM
lmt makes the 'cutdown' carry handel.

Roger Rabbit
05-14-2004, 07:23 PM
Argyll, do you have to pay for these sights out of your own money or will you get paid back by your employers?

Sir Zach of R.
05-14-2004, 08:18 PM
I think ARMS just came out with a #40 BUIS.
Try www.militarymorons.com

Zentrum Jagdkampf
05-14-2004, 08:48 PM
I think this could help you too.
http://www.deltaforce.com/

Sir Zach of R.
05-14-2004, 10:39 PM
I think this could help you too.
http://www.deltaforce.com/

How original. :lol:

obd
05-14-2004, 11:56 PM
So your being forced to give up your shorty AK then eh?? Too bad...I bet you looked real stylish walking around with that kit.......By the way, you wouldnt happen to have taken any pics of yourself over there?? Of course I wouldnt want to see that pretty face of yours for opsec and all so you can kindly blur that out or just phtotochop it out.......but I would like to see some pics........

By the way, that was one quick little stint you did in Baghdad......Your company is quite nice to let you take a month off after so little time in country.... Must be one sweet deal you got going......Tell me, since my tax dollars are probably funding your little vacation, are you one of the ones making 1500 USD per day or just 500 USD per day??? I'd just like to know how much of my nations money is going to you every day if you get my meaning, although Im sure ounce we get the oil up and running the bill will be footed by the Iraqi's at the cost of rebuilding thier schools and roads and such, oh but hold on, each city of 1 million has its little "special media school" to show the world how much good we are doing over there so thats not really an issue now is it!!!!

Jeez, reminds me of the old newsreels that used to go out in the Soviet Union during its invasion of A-stan.... Until they could no longer hide the body bags, all Russian media showed during year #1 was how many schools and hospitals were being built meanwhile what was really going on was Russia was in the process of killing millions..........oh well that has nothing to do with you.....and Im sure its not that bad in Iraq, after all its America doing the occupying and not Russia right :)

But as one of the millions of taxpayers currently footing the bill for Iraq, and for people like you Argyl, I find it odd that about 10 American commanders have come on CNN complaining about $$ issues and that all thier projects lay incomplete and they are losing popular support and all and then I hear the US Congress complaining about now fully 30%, and possibly as much as 50%, of the budget is going to "security".... And now Bush wants 25 Billion USD more for his little war.........I dont know about you Argyl, but Im feeling a bit swindeled of late (hell your probably feeling quite rich as of late) and I fear ounce the Iraqi's start footing your bills they will as well........Good luck and keep you head down....One can only hope you make your money and get out before you get killed.........good luck....... Oh, and I hope you buy yourself a nice car courtesy of George W. Bush and his corrupt cronies......well more like courtesy of the American people.........

Oh and before you respond: Im jealous, Im an idiot, I have no experience, Im spouting off, I should bugger off, Im booted off this forum for offending you, and my post is being deleted, oh and I will advance you your $$ 1500 soon........

ibstolidude
05-15-2004, 01:35 AM
So your being forced to give up your shorty AK then eh?? Too bad...I bet you looked real stylish walking around with that kit.......By the way, you wouldnt happen to have taken any pics of yourself over there?? Of course I wouldnt want to see that pretty face of yours for opsec and all so you can kindly blur that out or just phtotochop it out.......but I would like to see some pics........
he posted them already - What is with you being a horses ass?

mocking_loudly_died
05-15-2004, 01:45 AM
So your being forced to give up your shorty AK then eh?? Too bad...I bet you looked real stylish walking around with that kit.......By the way, you wouldnt happen to have taken any pics of yourself over there?? Of course I wouldnt want to see that pretty face of yours for opsec and all so you can kindly blur that out or just phtotochop it out.......but I would like to see some pics........
he posted them already - What is with you being a horses ass?

Oh, that guy is just a ****head, I think he read a book about special forces once. Yowza.

Trigger
05-15-2004, 02:05 AM
No, I think incubz5 OOPS, I mean obd gets all his info from websites...

TRACER_BULLET
05-15-2004, 04:10 AM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/621054/m410.5s.jpg

^^ Agryl's future bang stick ;) :D

obd
05-15-2004, 04:43 AM
Wow, I guess some people cant pick up a little sarcasm about blurring the face........Although anyway, Im sure many peeps here would love to see some pics of the intrepid Argyll in country............Oh waite, I think he is still back in Scotland relaxing for a month and basking in the radiance of being able to say "I was in Baghdad a few days"............Like I said, I hope the man gets his money (well America's money to be exact) and gets home without getting his ass shot off....................I can only wonder when he is gonna realize that most Iraqi's dont want him there and they certainly dont want to pay him while there own officers who are doing most of the dying are getting paid jack **** even for Iraqi standards...........and they wonder why so many GI's are getting killed!!!

Jeez.....maybe a little more investment in infrastructure and less on guns for hire which dont seem to be doing much good at the moment might actually win some hearts and minds in Iraq.........but as things go know, people like Argyll arnt really doing a damn bit of good because what little they do is far far outweighed by the negatives involved.....such as thier VERY high cost, the resentment they breed from the Iraqi people, etc....and yeah yeah even the Soviets could show kids doing the whole "smile for sweets" act in A-stan and Chechnya so dont give me any **** photos either or kids waving to PMC's!!!!!.......How often is the farmer freindly by day but enemy by night????

It doesnt matter how many white faced foreignors you put on the street for $1500 per day with little carbines......They arnt gonna do a damn bit of good and are at best only a short term solution to a long term problem.....and they sure as hell arnt winning "hearts and minds" over there...........

Not to mention recent scandals brought to light by certain professional companies about recent start ups without any experience just sucking up the huge cash flow and not "vetting" thier people at all...........In fact, the Pentagon issued a statement that such practices are currently under investigation........Lets hope so before Bush has to ask America for more Billions just to pay off a bunch of fakes come to suck some cash and look cool (Not at all trying to say Argyll is one of those!!! so dont flame on that)

Really the whole situation is mind boggling...........Bush is just desperate to cover up loss rates and violence because the American press doenst seem to give a **** about PMC's of any variety dying.......Thats what its all about.........Bush's "coalition" consists of jack **** outside of Britain and Australia and Italy really............Hell what are the latest guestimates: Are PMC's now the 3rd largest "coalition" force in IRaq?? What a load of ****..........

Mark my words: Bush is either gonna find his exit in Iraq or he is gonna find his exit in America if you get my meaning.....because he has let the whole situation go all to hell with his leadership......Sure Rumsfeld and his cronies knew how to win the war but they have sure ****ed over the peace............hell we have lost more now than in the "war" anyway!!!!

mocking_loudly_died
05-15-2004, 06:55 AM
No one likes a eunuch at gang bang obd, go tell mommy all about it.

KalleBalleSvartSk@lle
05-15-2004, 07:47 AM
www.pantherarms.com
http://www.dpmsinc.com/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=FT-RS

TheJedi
05-15-2004, 08:17 AM
www.pantherarms.com
http://www.dpmsinc.com/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=FT-RS

Your link is no image...

Try it directly: http://www.dpmsinc.com/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=FT-RS

Product page with price. 79.95$

TheJedi
05-15-2004, 08:18 AM
*double post*

ibstolidude
05-15-2004, 10:41 AM
Wow, I guess some people cant pick up a little sarcasm about blurring the face........Although anyway, Im sure many peeps here would love to see some pics of the intrepid Argyll in country............Oh waite, I think he is still back in Scotland relaxing for a month and basking in the radiance of being able to say "I was in Baghdad a few days"............Like I said, I hope the man gets his money (well America's money to be exact) and gets home without getting his ass shot off.................... - even though he disagress with the US policies that developed the situation in Iraq - atleast he does something to help the situation other than bitch. Why do you knock a 30-off 60/90-on rotation schedule - it makes for longer "employees"


I can only wonder when he is gonna realize that most Iraqi's dont want him there and they certainly dont want to pay him while there own officers who are doing most of the dying are getting paid jack **** even for Iraqi standards........... Nice- I guess all that internet ready has made you an experct on what MOST Iraqis want.


Jeez.....maybe a little more investment in infrastructure and less on guns for hire which dont seem to be doing much good at the moment might actually win some hearts and minds in Iraq..... - who do you think it is that those "guns fro hire" protect - I guess in all your Iraqi insight you didn't bother to realize that the USAID and other NGO's recieve there protection from these men. With out them there will be NO reconstruction. DO you really think that civy companies and investers are going to go into IRaq with protection of their assets? Then how do you propose they recieve protection? US soldiers? THAT would be a HUGE waste of resources. As they have done in countless less permissive and developing areas, they hire western contractors with experience to manage, mantain, train, and facilitate a local guard force. That is how the rebuilding works.


....but as things go know, people like Argyll arnt really doing a damn bit of good because what little they do is far far outweighed by the negatives involved.....such as thier VERY high cost, the resentment they breed from the Iraqi people, etc.... as shocking as this may sound perhaps you are not half as knowledgable as you think. You have no idea what good is being done. If you spent less time spouting off you repeated dribble you may actually see some of the actions that been undertaken by both Coalition countrymen and IRaqis for their reconstruction. And they may not do any good for you racist ass, but for the Iraqis that have water, electricity, open schools, and even a modicum of normalacy, they are not taken lightly - ofcourse sitting at your house on your computer, it doesn't directly benefit YOU so it must be a waste. Do you think smiles build hearts and minds of do you think satisfy the heirasrchy of needs might be slightly more productive.


and yeah yeah even the Soviets could show kids doing the whole "smile for sweets" act in A-stan and Chechnya so dont give me any **** photos either or kids waving to PMC's!!!!!.......How often is the farmer freindly by day but enemy by night???? - Whaaaat? Even they Soviets can show pictures of smiley kids, but don't post pictures of smiling kids because they really don't like you??? This convoluted mess is an excellant reflection of your post.


It doesnt matter how many white faced foreignors you put on the street for $1500 per day with little carbines......They arnt gonna do a damn bit of good and are at best only a short term solution to a long term problem.....and they sure as hell arnt winning "hearts and minds" over there........... - I agree they are not a permanant solution, nor is it meant to be...they are not there to win hearts and minds they are they to enable others to do so.


Not to mention recent scandals brought to light by certain professional companies about recent start ups without any experience just sucking up the huge cash flow and not "vetting" thier people at all...........
In fact, the Pentagon issued a statement that such practices are currently under investigation........Lets hope so before Bush has to ask America for more Billions just to pay off a bunch of fakes come to suck some cash and look cool (Not at all trying to say Argyll is one of those!!! so dont flame on that) of course the Pentagon also has released statements about soldiers and their training processes being adapted and the need to reaffirm the core values after recent scandals brought to light certain professional units being improperly trained - but then I am intelligent to understand that is an isolated case, do not blame the rest of the military nor do advocate their withdrawal or disolve - unlike you choose to do with Contractor companies.


Really the whole situation is mind boggling...........Bush is just desperate to cover up loss rates and violence because the American press doenst seem to give a f*** about PMC's of any variety dying....... - your concept of what these men do and are paid to do is amazingly screwed up - rather than posting this horsecrap why don't you actaully GO and download one of these contract bids? They are posted everywhere - then you can see what they are hired to do. Not an individual job offer, but the contract announcement that requests bids. If you believe that they are in Iraq because of KIA/WIA numbers you are nuts! They do not perform in such a manner to make a large "dent" in these numbers. US Soldiers DO NOT preotect civy oirganizations - these men however do.


Thats what its all about.........Bush's "coalition" consists of jack **** outside of Britain and Australia and Italy really............Hell what are the latest guestimates: Are PMC's now the 3rd largest "coalition" force in IRaq?? What a load of ****.......... - NOW WE GET TO THE REAL REASON for you post. This is what really bothers you. You are against the war in Iraq. That, itself, is no problem. However you manner of directing it at these PMCs reflects you lack of knowledge about that they do.


Mark my words: Bush is either gonna find his exit in Iraq or he is gonna find his exit in America if you get my meaning.....because he has let the whole situation go all to hell with his leadership......Sure Rumsfeld and his cronies knew how to win the war but they have sure f*** over the peace............hell we have lost more now than in the "war" anyway!!!! - agian the real reason for your constant harping on this - this has nothing to do with PMCs.


STOP POSTING THIS CONSTANT DRIBBLE IN UNRELATED THREADS - lest it be deleted.

Chuck6d
05-15-2004, 02:41 PM
To get this back on track. I have the ARMS 40 BUIS. I like it a lot. Very low profile. I have a similiar BUIS to the one you showed made by Bushmaster. Never used............if you want to buy it?

http://www.khs-products.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=382&sid=

http://i11.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/a8/68/52_1_b.JPG

scm77
05-15-2004, 02:58 PM
This one has backup iron sights mounted on top of the ACOG.

Possible C7A3.
http://nightoperations.com/images/small/gun4.jpg
Super sexy.

Argyll
05-15-2004, 03:54 PM
So your being forced to give up your shorty AK then eh?? Too bad...I bet you looked real stylish walking around with that kit.......By the way, you wouldnt happen to have taken any pics of yourself over there?? Of course I wouldnt want to see that pretty face of yours for opsec and all so you can kindly blur that out or just phtotochop it out.......but I would like to see some pics........

By the way, that was one quick little stint you did in Baghdad......Your company is quite nice to let you take a month off after so little time in country.... Must be one sweet deal you got going......Tell me, since my tax dollars are probably funding your little vacation, are you one of the ones making 1500 USD per day or just 500 USD per day??? I'd just like to know how much of my nations money is going to you every day if you get my meaning, although Im sure ounce we get the oil up and running the bill will be footed by the Iraqi's at the cost of rebuilding thier schools and roads and such, oh but hold on, each city of 1 million has its little "special media school" to show the world how much good we are doing over there so thats not really an issue now is it!!!!

Jeez, reminds me of the old newsreels that used to go out in the Soviet Union during its invasion of A-stan.... Until they could no longer hide the body bags, all Russian media showed during year #1 was how many schools and hospitals were being built meanwhile what was really going on was Russia was in the process of killing millions..........oh well that has nothing to do with you.....and Im sure its not that bad in Iraq, after all its America doing the occupying and not Russia right :)

But as one of the millions of taxpayers currently footing the bill for Iraq, and for people like you Argyl, I find it odd that about 10 American commanders have come on CNN complaining about $$ issues and that all thier projects lay incomplete and they are losing popular support and all and then I hear the US Congress complaining about now fully 30%, and possibly as much as 50%, of the budget is going to "security".... And now Bush wants 25 Billion USD more for his little war.........I dont know about you Argyl, but Im feeling a bit swindeled of late (hell your probably feeling quite rich as of late) and I fear ounce the Iraqi's start footing your bills they will as well........Good luck and keep you head down....One can only hope you make your money and get out before you get killed.........good luck....... Oh, and I hope you buy yourself a nice car courtesy of George W. Bush and his corrupt cronies......well more like courtesy of the American people.........

Oh and before you respond: Im jealous, Im an idiot, I have no experience, Im spouting off, I should bugger off, Im booted off this forum for offending you, and my post is being deleted, oh and I will advance you your $$ 1500 soon........

Cocksucker I'm protecting Fuc*ing American clients,at least I have the balls to do so ya **** bag...........stop greeting like a baby and go read a book or something

Oh and thanks to those who looked into this,LMT will do it for 120 bucks,for me.

Geeze obd you're really a saddo ain't ya,you want to do some good instead of mouthing off...............pull on a uniform and serve ,or are you too much of a coward to do so?..............