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Eoin666
10-12-2007, 07:53 AM
Queen unveils new forces memorial

The memorial was designed by architect Liam O'Connor.

The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and Prince of Wales are attending the dedication of the new national Armed Forces Memorial.
The £6m stone circle in Alrewas, Staffordshire, bears the names of 16,000 service personnel who have died since World War II.

The memorial honours those killed in combat and training as well as in acts of terrorism. The royal party have been joined by politicians including PM Gordon Brown.

There is room for 15,000 more names to be carved on the Portland stone walls of the memorial, at the National Memorial Arboretum.

The magnificence of this new memorial will, at long last, provide a fitting recognition for all those killed on duty since the end of the Second World War

The royal party, which includes the Duchess of Cornwall, were beginning by hearing prayers for the dead by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

They are touring the memorial, designed by architect Liam O'Connor, and meeting the families of service personnel.

Prince Charles said the people of the UK owed those whose names featured on the memorial "an enormous debt of gratitude".

He said: "The magnificence of this new memorial will, at long last, provide a fitting recognition for all those killed on duty since the end of the Second World War.

"It does not differentiate between those killed in the heat of battle or on a training exercise, by terrorist action or on peace-keeping missions."

The most senior officer in the military said the memorial would serve as a poignant reminder of the sacrifices being made.

We are now in the position in this country of having a memorial which will bring home to many the total scale of the sacrifices and commitment
Air Chief Marshall Sir Jock Stirrup

Air Chief Marshall Sir Jock Stirrup told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was a chance for the British public to reconnect with the military.

"I think there is no doubt that the British public is extremely proud of its armed forces," Sir Jock said.

"It is equally important that the public understand and support the armed forces, not just in themselves, but in what they do."

Sir Jock said with post-war military deaths more likely to come in "ones, twos and fours", it had become harder for the public to collectively appreciate those losses.

"I am delighted that we are now in the position in this country of having a memorial which will bring home to many the total scale of the sacrifices and commitment that people in the armed forces have made," he said.

The memorial will open to visitors on 29 October

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7040801.stm

space for 15000 more names.......sobering thought

Sabre
10-12-2007, 08:21 AM
A memorial honouring those UK service personnel killed since 1945 has been opened today.

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7040801.stm


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44171000/jpg/_44171921_queenmemorial203.jpg
The memorial was designed by architect Liam O'Connor
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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/icons/video_text.gifAround the memorial (http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7040000/newsid_7040700?redirect=7040786.stm&news=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&bbwm=1&nbwm=1&asb=1)

The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Prince of Wales are attending the dedication of the new national Armed Forces Memorial. The £6m stone circle in Alrewas, Staffordshire, bears the names of 16,000 service personnel who have died since World War II.
The memorial honours those killed in combat and training as well as in acts of terrorism.
The royal party has been joined by politicians including PM Gordon Brown.
There is room for 15,000 more names to be carved on the Portland stone walls of the memorial, at the National Memorial Arboretum.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif The magnificence of this new memorial will, at long last, provide a fitting recognition for all those killed on duty since the end of the Second World War http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Prince Charles


The service began with prayers by speakers including the Archbishop of Canterbury.
The royal party is touring the memorial, designed by architect Liam O'Connor, and meeting the families of service personnel.
Prince Charles said the people of the UK owed those whose names featured on the memorial "an enormous debt of gratitude".
He said: "The magnificence of this new memorial will, at long last, provide a fitting recognition for all those killed on duty since the end of the Second World War.
"It does not differentiate between those killed in the heat of battle or on a training exercise, by terrorist action or on peace-keeping missions."
'Extremely proud'
The head of Britain's armed forces said the memorial would serve as a poignant reminder of the sacrifices being made.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44172000/jpg/_44172385_queen_grab203.jpg The Royal Family will meet relatives of service personnel


Air Chief Marshall Sir Jock Stirrup told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was a chance for the British public to reconnect with the military.
"I think there is no doubt that the British public is extremely proud of its armed forces," Sir Jock said.
"It is equally important that the public understand and support the armed forces, not just in themselves, but in what they do."
Sir Jock said with post-war military deaths more likely to come in "ones, twos and fours", it had become harder for the public to collectively appreciate those losses.
"I am delighted that we are now in the position in this country of having a memorial which will bring home to many the total scale of the sacrifices and commitment that people in the armed forces have made," he said.
The memorial will open to visitors on 29 October.

Sabre
10-12-2007, 08:32 AM
Again from BBC:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44172000/gif/_44172247_memorial_1.gif

Aerial view of the site in Alrewas, Staffordshire.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44172000/gif/_44172248_memorial_2.gif

The site is aligned so that at 11.00 on 11th November, the sun will cast a shadow on the bronze wreath in the centre of the monument. A cracking feature I think, one that unites this new monument to the stone circles of our pre-history.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44172000/gif/_44172250_memorial_4.gif

One of the sculptures featured inside, showing troops carrying a wounded comrade above their heads.

I had no idea this memorial was being built, but it is long overdue considering the immense losses we have had since 1945, often (as Sir jock says) in one's or two's, often missed by the general public, but remembered by those that loved them and worked beside them. It is fitting that there is now a collective focus for all those who would wish to remember them now and be grateful for what they had risked.


edit: link to another thread regarding the memorial

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121713

oldsoak
10-12-2007, 08:41 AM
- 'bout time too. Now, if they get round to giving decent compensation to blokes wot lost arms, legs and minds fighting these sh8tty wars, I'd be happier still.

Sabre
10-12-2007, 09:03 AM
Quite true.

big_les
10-12-2007, 10:11 AM
Is it true that no ranks or awards will be recorded on this memorial? Ranks I can understand I suppose, but why not hard-earned (gallantry) medals?

Eoin666
10-12-2007, 01:51 PM
:oops: doh, I open a thread on this in the history section, if someone could delete mine or merge....soz folks

Hypno85
10-12-2007, 03:12 PM
Finally! We needed
something to honor them.

Sabre
10-15-2007, 05:59 AM
:oops: doh, I open a thread on this in the history section, if someone could delete mine or merge....soz folks

Don't worry mate, I opened mine after yours! I've linked to your original thread in my first post, but if Mods could merge the two that would be grand!

Big les: I heard no ranks were to be put on the memorial, not so sure about medals. I think I saw Mountbatten's name followed by his various titles and honours, so if he has his, I would think the other brave lads ought to have theirs.

oldsoak
10-16-2007, 09:37 AM
funnily enough, I'm in two minds about Mountbattens name being there. Heres the reason - , he was murdered simply because he was a relative of HMQ and an "establishment" figure and not because he was engaged by HMG to go fight on our behalf. If he was, he certainly wouldnt have been boating in Ireland. Pte Bloggs, OTOH is sent out to fight by HMG and therefore deserves to have his sacrifice noted. I would argue that Mountbatten - along with Airey Neave etc - should be in a seperate memorial for civilians who have been victims of terrorist attacks.

Jarhead
10-16-2007, 11:00 AM
Thats some good news, its good to see that a nation stands behind their service members.
It makes me sad that its different here in Germany, people molest you when you wear an uniform, happend already to me...
And the governerment think its not worth to built a public memorial to all fallen soldiers after WWII, i just heard that they have plans to built one in the backyard of the MOD in Berlin...
sad buddies...huh?

Flounder
10-16-2007, 06:30 PM
Room for 15 000 names. Here's hoping that this never even comes close to running out of room.

Eoin666
10-17-2007, 07:09 PM
The pictures make it look like a very moving place, nice that it's in the centre of the country as well, the trees looking making it look almost like stone circle, and the feature with the sun on the 11/11, well done on the designers and the sculpters.

I just hope that the memorial is protected so no little scrotes or anti-war "protesters" cause any vandalism, bit sick of seeing the cenotaph defaced.