Immigration, Black Sheep and Swiss Rage.What do you think about?

[busy2000]

What do you think about The posters taped on the walls at a political rally here capture the rawness of Switzerland’s national electoral campaign: three white sheep stand on the Swiss flag as one of them kicks a single black sheep away.???

Here is a article in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/world/europe/08swiss.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[muck]

Switzerland is quite nationalistic if you ask me, and naturalization programme must be the most odd ever if it is true that the people in the town where a foreigner wants to move to can decide whether he becomes a Swiss citizen or not.

By the way, this is hardly military related ;)

[Ducketeer]

21 % of the people living in Switzerland are immigrants.

Well we must be very nationalistic with this percentage of foreigners. Btw Switzerland has the highest contigent of foreigners in hole europe ...

I'm sure a lot of countries could learn many clever things of my homeland.

Clowns who don't know if they live in Switzerland or in Italy should read the facts first before asking stupid questions.

Maybe you should try wikipedia first?

[busy2000]

21 % of the people living in Switzerland are immigrants.

Well we must be very nationalistic with this percentage of foreigners. Btw Switzerland has the highest contigent of foreigners in hole europe ...

I'm sure a lot of countries could learn many clever things of my homeland.

Clowns who don't know if they live in Switzerland or in Italy should read the facts first before asking stupid questions.

Maybe you should try wikipedia first?

I Live in switzerland (Bern). And i dont need to look on Wiki.I know whats the matter

[Flagg]

I don't live in Switzerland, and my experience there is minimal at best.

But from what I read, and assuming the crime figures are accurate, many Swiss citizens are demanding a higher level of civic responsibility from those who are granted the PRIVELEDGE(not right) of living there.

I would entirely agree with strict measures being taken against residents who are unable to make a positive contribution to society.

I would think a long residency period before the achievement of citizenship or permanent residency is granted is the perfect opportunity to test the character of an individual or family.

Failure to achieve and maintain the minimum requirements necessary to be a positive and contributing member of the community and society means you don't get invited to stay.

The idea that an entire family could lose residency due to an adolescent child's actions could be deemed quite harsh...but my guess is that it is safe to say there would be less juveline crime because the parents would lay the smackdown, or they get the boot........being responsible for your actions as well as those of your minor children is a great idea.

I also quite like the concept of the local community having SOME say in a grant of permanent residency or citizenship.

It will be keen to see the outcome.

[Mu-Meson]

^^ Flagg, I totally agree. Citizenship ain't a right given to anyone who just happens to be in the country at any given time. It isn't based on geography.

[Ordie]

Failure to achieve and maintain the minimum requirements necessary to be a positive and contributing member of the community and society means you don't get invited to stay.

Here's one of the articles within the Swiss Constitution:

It's a good read:

Article 6 Individual and Social Responsibility
Every person is responsible for him- or herself and advances, according to his or her abilities, the goals of state and society.

Equivilant to Bill of Rights:
Chapter 1 Basic Rights


Article 7 Human Dignity
Human dignity is to be respected and protected.

Article 8 Equality
(1) All humans are equal before the law.
(2) Nobody may be discriminated against, namely for his or her origin, race, ***, age, language, social position, way of life, religious, philosophical, or political convictions, or because of a corporal or mental disability.
(3) Men and women have equal rights. The law provides for legal and factual equality, particularly in the family, during education, and at the workplace. Men and women have the right to equal pay for work of equal value.
(4) The law provides for measures to eliminate disadvantages of disabled people.

Article 9 Protection Against Arbitrariness and Preservation of Good Faith
Every person has the right to be treated by state institutions without arbitrariness and in good faith.

Article 10 Right to Life and Personal Freedom
(1) Every person has the right to life. The death penalty is prohibited.
(2) Every person has the right to personal liberty, namely to corporal and mental integrity and freedom of movement.
(3) Torture and any other form of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment are prohibited.

Article 11 Protection of Children and Adolescents
(1) Children and adolescents have the right to special protection of the personal integrity and to promotion of their development.
(2) They excercise their rights according to their capacity to discern.

Article 12 Right to Aid in Distress
Whoever is in distress without the ability to take care of him- or herself has the right to help and assistance and to the means indispensable for a life led in human dignity.

Article 13 Protection of Privacy
(1) Every person has the right to respect for his or her private and familiy life, home, and secrecy of mail and telecommunication.
(2) Every person has the right to be protected against abuse of personal data.

Article 14 Right to Marriage and Family
The rights to marriage and family are guaranteed.

Article 15 Freedom of Faith and Conscience
(1) The freedom of faith and conscience is guaranteed.
(2) Every person has the right to freely choose his or her religion or non-denominational belief and to profess them alone or in community with others.
(3) Every person has the right to join or belong to a religious community and to receive religious education.
(4) No person may be forced to join a religious community, to conduct a religious act or participate in religious education.

Article 16 Freedom of Opinion and Information
(1) The freedom of opinion and information is guaranteed.
(2) Every person has the right to form, express, and disseminate his or her opinions freely.
(3) Every person has the right to receive information freely, to gather it from generally accessible sources, and to disseminate it.

Article 17 Freedom of the Media
(1) The freedom of the press, radio and television as well as all other forms of public broadcasting of productions and information is guaranteed.
(2) Censorship is prohibited.
(3) Editorial secrecy is guaranteed.

Article 18 Freedom of Language
The freedom of language is guaranteed.

Article 19 Right to Primary Education
The right to sufficient and free primary education is guaranteed.

Article 20 Freedom of Science
The freedom of scientific research and teaching is guaranteed.

Article 21 Freedom of Art
The freedom of art is guaranteed.

Article 22 Freedom of Assembly
(1) The freedom of assembly is guaranteed.
(2) Every person has the right to organize assemblies, to participate in or to abstain from them.

Article 23 Freedom of Association
(1) The freedom of association is guaranteed.
(2) Every person has the right to form associations, to join or to belong to them, and to participate in their activities.
(3) Nobody may be forced to join or to belong to an association.

Article 24 Freedom of Domicile
(1) Swiss citizens have the right to establish domicile anywhere within the country.
(2) They have the right to leave or to return to Switzerland.

Article 25 Protection Against Expulsion, Extradition, and Removal by Force
(1) Swiss citizens may not be expelled from the country; they may be extradited to a foreign authority only with their consent.
(2) Refugees may not be removed by force or extradited to a state in which they are persecuted.
(3) Nobody may be removed by force to a state where he or she is threatened by torture or other means of cruel and inhuman treatment or punishment.

Article 26 Guarantee to property
(1) Property is guaranteed.
(2) Expropriation and restrictions of ownership equivalent to expropriation are fully compensated.

Article 27 Economic Freedom
(1) Economic freedom is guaranteed.
(2) In particular, it entails the free choice of profession as well as free access to and free exercise of private economic activity.

Article 28 Freedom to Unionize
(1) Employees, employers, and their organizations have the right to unionize for the protection of their interests, to form unions and to join or refrain from joining them.
(2) Conflicts ought to be settled by negotiation and mediation as far as possible.
(3) Strike and lockout are permitted, provided they concern labor relations and do not violate any obligation to keep labor peace or to resort to conciliation.
(4) The law may prohibit strikes by certain groups of persons.

Article 29 General Procedural Guarantees
(1) In judicial and administrative proceedings, every person has the right to equal and fair treatment as well as adjudication within reasonable time.
(2) The parties have the right to be heard.
(3) Every person lacking the necessary means has the right to free legal assistance, provided the case does not seem to lack any merit. To the extent necessary for the protection of one's rights, the person also has the right to free legal councel.

[Article 29a Guarantee of Legal Proceedings
Every person has the right to have legal disputes decided by judicial authority. The Federation and the Cantons may in exceptional cases exclude judicial proceedings.]* (http://www.servat.unibe.ch/law/icl/sz00000_.html#reform)

Article 30 Judicial Proceedings
(1) Every person whose case is to be judged in judicial proceedings has the right to a court established by law, with jurisdiction, independence, and impartiality. Exceptional tribunals are prohibited.
(2) Every person subjected to civil action has the right to have the case adjudicated by the court of his or her domicile. The law may provide for another venue.
(3) Court hearings and renderings of judgments are public. The law may provide for exceptions.

Article 31 Habeas Corpus
(1) A person may only be deprived of his or her liberty in the cases and following the forms provided by law.
(2) Every person deprived of his or her liberty has the right to be informed promptly, in a language which he or she understands, of the reasons for his or her arrest and of his or her rights. The person has to have the opportunity to assert his or her rights. In particular, he or she has the right to have his or her close relatives informed.
(3) Every person taken into pretrial detention has the right to be brought before a judge without delay; the judge decides whether the person remains in detention or is released. Every person held in pretrial detention is entitled to trial within a reasonable time.
(4) Every person deprived of his or her liberty without a trial is entitled to access to a court at any time. The court decides as soon as possible on the lawfulness of the detention.

Article 32 Criminal procedure
(1) Everyone is to be presumed innocent until sentenced according to law.
(2) Everyone charged with a criminal offence has the right to be informed promptly and comprehensively of the accusation against him or her. He or she must have the opportunity to assert his or her rights of defence.
(3) Every condemned person has the right to have the judgement reviewed by a higher court. Provided the case is not adjudicated by the Federal Court as court of first and last instance.

[B]Article 33 Right of Petition
(1) Every person has the right to address petitions to authorities; no disadvantages may arise from using this right.
(2) The authorities have to take cognizance of petitions.

Article 34 Political Rights
(1) The political rights are guaranteed.
(2) The guarantee of political rights protects the free formation of opinion by the citizens and the unaltered expression of their will in ballots.

Article 35 Realization of Fundamental Rights
(1) Fundamental rights have to be effectuated throughout the entire legal system.
(2) Whoever exercises a state function is bound to the fundamental rights and obliged to contribute to their implementation.
(3) The authorities ensure that fundamental rights, as far as they are suitable, also become effective among private parties.

Article 36 Limitations of Fundamental Rights
(1) Limitations of fundamental rights require a basis in law. Serious limitations have to be expressly provided for in a statute. Cases of clear and present danger not to be avoided by other means are exempt.
(2) Limitations of fundamental rights have to be justified by public interest or by the protection of fundamental rights of others.
(3) Limitations have to satisfy the principle of proportionality.
(4) The essence of fundamental rights is inviolable.

[chooky]

There are 2 problems here.

1.Not being able to say what the problem is.

2.Muslim immigration is that problem that must not be mentioned.

Which leads to a 3rd problem

3.If you can't speak the truth without being shouted down no problem will ever be addressed.