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soldierandy
05-15-2004, 12:55 PM
British troops got ambushed by terrorists -or freedom fighters whatever you want - and got only two injured soldiers, killed 20 and captured 16.
Now of course they have to say 'excuse me sir, I will just put these plasticuffs on you and mind your head when you get in the landrover'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3717507.stm

2RHPZ
05-15-2004, 01:05 PM
Well prepared ambush is not survivable, everybody knows. Glad to know that these idiots had no military training. I am happy to hear that there wasn´t any dead British soldier! :lol:

-=TFN=-Karab
05-15-2004, 01:16 PM
GET SOME!

Hooah to our British brothers.

SR15
05-15-2004, 01:41 PM
NICE !!!

scm77
05-15-2004, 01:51 PM
woot

mack pl
05-15-2004, 01:58 PM
Good job :)

AirZone
05-15-2004, 03:03 PM
Dont mess with those guys... they ate IRA for breakfast while those guys got kicked by saddam in the ass :lol:


GOOD JOB !

lucky they survived... because its damn hard to survive from an ambush

big_les
05-15-2004, 03:10 PM
Now that's what we British types call 'breaking some bottom'. (obtuse Fawlty Towers reference).

Nicely done lads.

Spearin
05-15-2004, 03:32 PM
Anyone know which unit that was?

Roger Rabbit
05-15-2004, 03:36 PM
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/forces_ph3.htm

Land forces deployed in Iraq include:
3(UK) Division:

Headquarters and 3rd Division Signal Regiment (being replaced by 16 Signals Regiment)
Elements from:
14 Signal Regiment
30 Signal Regiment (strategic communications)


20 Armoured Brigade:


Headquarters and Signal Squadron
Queen's Royal Hussars (Challenger 2)
1st Battalion, The Light Infantry (Warrior infantry fighting vehicles)
1st Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Wales (Warrior infantry fighting vehicles)
2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment
1st Battalion, The Royal Scots
1st Battalion, The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (from January 2004)
26 Regiment Royal Artillery
35 Engineer Regiment
Elements from:
The 9th/12th Royal Lancers (CVR(T) armoured reconnaissance vehicles)
Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers (Militia)

National Support Element:
4 General Support Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
22 Field Hospital
Elements from:
33 Engineer Regiment (Explosive Ordnance Disposal)
1 Regiment, Royal Military Police
10 Transport Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
17 Port & Maritime Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
23 Pioneer Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
24 Regiment, Royal Logistic Corps
5 General Support Medical Regiment, Royal Army Medical Corps
Other Units:

Lynx and Gazelle helicopters, Army Air Corps
42 Engineer Regiment (Geographic)
Military Works Force and Specialist Teams Royal Engineers


These are the units deployed in Iraq up to April 2004 according to the MoD.


Anyone know which unit that was?
Take your pic from above ;)

Gringo
05-15-2004, 03:42 PM
Now that's what we British types call 'breaking some bottom'. (obtuse Fawlty Towers reference).

Nicely done lads.

que?

Denat
05-15-2004, 04:01 PM
British troops (...) killed 20 and captured 16.


Job well done woot

mack pl
05-15-2004, 04:03 PM
British troops (...) killed 20 and captured 16.


Job well done wootNie do końca, nie powiesili ich na latarniach ;) :lol: You butcher ;) rofl .....I just kidding :)

Roger Rabbit
05-15-2004, 04:06 PM
Now that's what we British types call 'breaking some bottom'. (obtuse Fawlty Towers reference).

Nicely done lads.

que?

aussi quoi?

Denat
05-15-2004, 05:12 PM
British troops (...) killed 20 and captured 16.


Job well done wootNie do końca, nie powiesili ich na latarniach ;) :lol: You butcher ;) rofl .....I just kidding :)

You know me man I believe only in the power of cruelty ;)
Chcę więcej krwi rofl
Mogli by powiesić ich ciała na prowizorycznej szubienicy z podpisem po arabsku: To czeka wszystkich którzy łamią brytyjski porządek ;)

Anyone who states resistance against our soldiers should be killed and his body hanged in public, so everyone could see what happens to the terrorists.

Vance
05-15-2004, 05:13 PM
Nice job Limeys. :P

mack pl
05-15-2004, 05:28 PM
British troops (...) killed 20 and captured 16.


Job well done wootNie do końca, nie powiesili ich na latarniach ;) :lol: You butcher ;) rofl .....I just kidding :)

You know me man I believe only in the power of cruelty ;)
Chcę więcej krwi rofl
Mogli by powiesić ich ciała na prowizorycznej szubienicy z podpisem po arabsku: To czeka wszystkich którzy łamią brytyjski porządek ;)

Anyone who states resistance against our soldiers should be killed and his body hanged in public, so everyone could see what happens to the terrorists. Stary,gdybyś ty tam dowodził to by sie pustynia kurwa paliła :lol: If you were commander in Iraq, desert will burning :lol:

Denat
05-15-2004, 05:32 PM
Jak mówi Pismo: Więcej zdziałasz dobrym słowem i grożbą niż samym dobrym słowem ;) Pozdro

mack pl
05-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Jak mówi Pismo: Więcej zdziałasz dobrym słowem i grożbą niż samym dobrym słowem ;) Pozdro rofl

seruriermarshal
05-15-2004, 07:47 PM
Great news , UK !

Mudcat
05-15-2004, 09:28 PM
woot Glad no British soldiers were KIA. Well done!


How do ya botch an ambush in an area were you know the terrain far better than the enemy? :bash:

Guess the survivors and bystanders were do'n this: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: while the British troops were do'n this: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: to the "freedom fighters".

Spearin
05-15-2004, 11:47 PM
Take my pick? Well, I was hoping it was the Argylls ;)

Trigger
05-16-2004, 01:36 AM
Cheers for the Brits! woot

Well done.

soldierandy
05-16-2004, 07:03 AM
It hasn't been revealed what unit was involved in the firefight but they surely picked the wrong guys to ambush.

How on earth can you spring an ambush in territory that is your home and injure only two soldiers and then have 20 of yours slotted??? If I was them I'd stick to suicide bombing.

marktigger
05-16-2004, 11:05 AM
BTW its now 207 fld hosp 22 came home recently

Sabre
05-16-2004, 11:54 AM
That's good work.

Hope the two lads weren't injured too seriously. It is quite often that we hear the phrase 'only x number injured' without realising the severe injuries that are survivable and can lead to the end of their carreer.

All the best lads.

(Better luck next time Sadr supporters)

Argyll
05-16-2004, 02:27 PM
Reports filtering through that it was an 8 man mobile Patrol from..........


1st Bn Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders woot

Spearin
05-16-2004, 02:28 PM
Reports filtering through that it was an 8 man mobile Patrol from..........


1st Bn Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders woot

woot Awesome! :D

jamesp
05-16-2004, 02:55 PM
Reports filtering through that it was an 8 man mobile Patrol from..........


1st Bn Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders woot


Hehe, I heard this aswell.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2761-1111774,00.html




British troops kill 20 in bayonet clash




BRITISH soldiers fixed bayonets and fought hand-to-hand with a Shi’ite militia in southern Iraq in one of their fiercest clashes since the war officially ended last May.
They mounted what were described as “classic infantry assaults” on firing and mortar positions held by more than 100 fighters loyal to the outlawed cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, military sources revealed yesterday.



At least 20 men from al-Sadr’s Mehdi army were said to have been killed in more than three hours of fighting — the highest toll reported in any single incident involving British forces in the past 12 months. Three British soldiers were injured, none seriously, and nine fighters were captured.

“It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead,” said one source. “There were bodies floating in the river.”

Details of the incident emerged as General Sir Michael Walker, chief of the defence staff, told The Sunday Times that British forces would remain in strength at least until Iraq’s elections next year.

A further 3,000 troops may also be sent to boost troop strengths around Najaf in the centre of the country, also the scene of violent clashes.

The fighting began when soldiers from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders were ambushed in two Land Rovers on Friday afternoon, about 15 miles south of the city of Amara.

They escaped, only to be ambushed a second time by a larger group armed with machineguns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars. Reinforcements were summoned from the Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment at a base nearby.

“There was some pretty fierce hand-to-hand fighting with bayonets fixed,” the source said. “There were some classic assaults on mortar positions held by the al-Sadr forces.”

Major Ian Clooney, the official spokesman, confirmed that the Mehdi army “took a pretty heavy knocking” but declined to specify the tactics. “This was certainly an intense engagement,” he said.

Since their arrival in Amara just under a month ago, the Princess of Wales’s regiment had been engaged in a tough struggle with the Mehdi army, which has been launching mortar attacks at night on the British and the coalition civilian headquarters in the city.

Although armed with rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), the militia has found it hard to cope with Britain’s heavily armoured Warriors, one of which is reputed to have been struck by seven different RPGs and still managed to continue safely to base.

Walker said that “sufficient superiority” of British forces would be required to deal with unrest in the run-up to 2005 elections.

“There are some incursions that will occur, particularly up to June 30, and during the period up to elections next year,” he said. “We will need to have sufficient superiority of force to be able to deal with civil unrest and terrorism.

“We are in discussions with the Americans about putting more people out. If one suddenly had a major reconstruction problem we would need more troops to be able to support that without removing people from their role.”

Among the 3,000 troops under consideration to boost forces around Najaf is 3 Commando Brigade of the Royal Marines.

Tony Blair will come under pressure from some Labour MPs and the Liberal Democrats to hold a Commons vote before the troops are sent.

Blair is likely to dismiss Labour calls as being from what he will portray as the left of the party. But if the calls gain momentum and key figures such as the former foreign secretary Robin Cook speak out, he may have his hand forced.

Charles Kennedy, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: “Before any further British troops are sent, the government should consult with and listen to parliament about the role they are to undertake.”

However, Walker said the plan was gradually to reduce the 12,000 British troop presence in the southeast region of Basra and Amara as soon as local security forces gained control of the area.

“The main task is to continue to ensure that we prepare Iraq for the Iraqi people to be able to take sovereignty on June 30,” he said.

“The intention is to draw back the coalition face of the security activities in the southeast so it becomes increasingly Iraqi. When it gets to a stage where they can do it on their own we will reduce our numbers.”

British troops in southeast Iraq are already significantly outnumbered by local Iraqi police and the 5,100-strong Iraqi civil defence corps.

Walker said that British troops would stay in Iraq as long as they were needed. “It is very difficult to say how long we will have to stay but we are committed to stay until we are no longer needed.”

Argyll
05-16-2004, 03:41 PM
"It just goes to show what can be done with some cold British steel with some guts behind it"
C/Sgt Bourne Rorkes Drift Natal.

Amen to this!

The Jocks were pissed off at missing the Ground war,they're making up for it now................Ne Obliviscarus

Steve Andrews
05-16-2004, 04:20 PM
edit

Thought it could have been my old lot...
sounds like it wasn't. They would have got more than twenty!!

California Joe
05-16-2004, 04:23 PM
Outstanding. Look at Argyll, all glowing. ;)

AirZone
05-16-2004, 04:35 PM
Man those british are tought bastards... i love thier helms and bdu really ;)


"Although armed with rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), the militia has found it hard to cope with Britain’s heavily armoured Warriors, one of which is reputed to have been struck by seven different RPGs and still managed to continue safely to base."

Wich APC is that ?

Argyll
05-16-2004, 04:42 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:bCcCdPku4YEJ:users.tinyonline.co.uk/blackwatch/30580407.jpg

That'll be this warrior,and inside them they have these ones

http://www.it-serve.co.uk/argylls/Images/glengarrykilt.jpg

Roger Rabbit
05-16-2004, 04:43 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14463

Look at that link AirZone

Denat
05-16-2004, 05:27 PM
"It just goes to show what can be done with some cold British steel with some guts behind it"
C/Sgt Bourne Rorkes Drift Natal.

"We shall have to shift those fellows with the bayonet, old boy!"
Royal Welch Fusilier to his comrade at the crossing of the Alma

Jeff White
05-16-2004, 05:34 PM
http://www.it-serve.co.uk/argylls/Images/glengarrykilt.jpg[/quote]

Whats he holding on to ;)

Spearin
05-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Sans Peur! :D


Whats he holding on to

That's a sporran made out of horse hair (I believe). Highland kit is the greatest ;)

soldierandy
05-17-2004, 01:32 AM
Well gents let's not forget the

PWRR!

according to the article the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment - The Tigers got involved in the fierce fighting that followed the two ambushes.

http://www.pwrr-army.co.uk/images/enter_badge.jpghttp://www.pwrr-army.co.uk/images/tiger_large.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/gulf_war_2_british_forces_operation_telic/optelic129.jpg

martinexsquaddie
05-17-2004, 02:10 AM
picking a fight with argylls dumb
hanging around longer enough for warrior to turn up Dumber
getting within bayonet range dumbest yet :lol:

Roger Rabbit
05-17-2004, 03:14 AM
Well done to the Argylls.

Looks like the insurgents forgot the 7 P's
Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Being Bayoneted :lol:

soldierandy
05-17-2004, 03:20 AM
Well at least some good work is done at this place:

http://www.atra.mod.uk/img/infantrytrainingcentre/ITCWALES.jpg

Steve Andrews
05-17-2004, 04:52 AM
I'm Ex 1PWRR. Love to be back with the boys now.....

2RHPZ
06-29-2004, 03:04 AM
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/bayonets.htm

Steve Andrews
06-29-2004, 04:39 AM
Hate to piss on the Argylls' campfire, but the PWRR were doing the bayoneting..
http://www.soldiermagazine.co.uk/mag/update3.htm

"Soldier has learned the full story of how British troops wiped-out a band of gangsters terrorising a major road in southern Iraq.

A three-hour battle raged through the Iraqi desert which involved a bayonet charge by two platoons of The Princess of Wales’ Royal Regiment (PWRR).
The fighting finally ended with a bloody rout of the Iraqi irregulars by the Army using two Warrior fighting vehicles, a Challenger II tank and 60 soldiers.

The battle began when a dozen gunmen attempted to ambush a pair of Army Land Rover Snatch vehicles on the notorious Route Six motorway near the town of Al Amarah.

Maj Adam Griffiths and eight of his men from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (A and SH) were travelling back to base following a day training fledgling Iraqi security forces.

Iraqi gunmen poured small arms fire and rocket propelled grenades at the convoy which sped-on with bullets ricocheting off the vehicle’s paintwork.

Minutes later the Major and his men were fired on by a separate group of 25 Iraqi militia as they prepared a second ambush.

Maj Griffiths’ third and final close shave of the day came further down Route Six when his convoy interrupted bandits preparing a roadside bomb.

The terrorists managed to detonate the device, made up of a number of shells, only for one of the rounds to fly between the Land Rovers.

Having escaped unscathed the Major scrambled two platoons from nearby Camp Condor to hunt-down and kill the enemy.

Leaving just enough men behind to secure the camp the small force of 28 PWRR soldiers set-off and discovered the enemy dug-in by the roadside.

Using a flanking manoeuvre the soldiers fixed bayonets and cleared the trenches in what was described as “very heavy hand-to-hand fighting”.

Meanwhile a further 60 troops from the PWRR in Warrior fighting vehicles backed-up by a Challenger II battle tank attacked and routed a force of 50 Iraqis further along the road.

During the bloody battle around 30 Iraqi gunmen were killed, 12 were captured and a further dozen are believed to have run off.

Two soldiers from the PWRR suffered shrapnel wounds.

Adjutant Capt Justin Barry (A and SH) said: “Maj Griffiths had a pretty hairy day.

“His vehicles had three very close escapes and we counted the bullet scorch marks on them when they got back to base.

“The fighters engaged were basically terrorists and gangsters – people who are out to destabilise the area, drive out the coalition and suck as much out of Iraq as they can.

“But at the end of the day we got the better of them and hopefully Route Six is now much safer.

“The PWRR were engaged in very heavy hand-to-hand fighting and bayonets were fixed.

“There’s a great sense of satisfaction among the men with the way this turned out.”