Does anyone know about Romanian G AKs?

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Well I posted a while back about buying an AK and after mulling over a couple options I found a guy a town over selling an unused, but kit built Romanian "G" AK.

This is the text I got in the email about the weapon.

"It's a Romanian "G" built high cap. It comes with 1 pro mag. The Romanian Gs were built from unused AK kits from Romania. These were supposedly built for the Romanian National Guard and all unused rifles were disassembled and sold to the U.S. The wood and fit are a lot better than the WASRs that are being sold right now. The sights are straight with no cant. To be honest, I've never shot it but the guy who built it said it is dead on. I really don't have the time to shoot anything and I see no need to just have it around and put away."

Said they were built for the Romanian National Guard (?) but were disassembled and sold to the US as kit guns.

I was hoping to skirt around paying sales tax but the guy I was talking too about it said he would have to take the gun into his inventory in order to do ATF paperwork on the gun. Is that true? I mean I would only want to go around sales tax if it was legal.

The guy the gun belongs too and the transfer guy are two different people, unless the guy is lying to me?

The price is $350 comes with one Hi-cap mag.

Good deal?

I have two pics but I'm still not sure how we imbed photos here.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[gaijinsamurai]

Price wise, it SOUNDS okay. If you aren't really familiar with AKs, or guns in general, you might want to take someone with you who is more knowledgable, and can look it over.

AS far as the BATF paperwork, sales tax, and everything else go, I won't comment, because I'm not an expert in these matters, and might give you incorrect information.

Good luck!

PS: two of my AKs were kit-built rifles, and they perform just fine.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Price wise, it SOUNDS okay. If you aren't really familiar with AKs, or guns in general, you might want to take someone with you who is more knowledgable, and can look it over.

AS far as the BATF paperwork, sales tax, and everything else go, I won't comment, because I'm not an expert in these matters, and might give you incorrect information.

Good luck!

PS: two of my AKs were kit-built rifles, and they perform just fine.

yeah i dont know much about AKs...but i do own three guns (small rifle, handgun, shotgun)

price is a bit high but im getting to the point where i just want to buy something but im going to go check it out this week. i just wasn't sure about the whole "G" model thing...?

[yiorgo]

the Romanian Aks are usually bottom of the barrel AKs.....the Gkits are ok, parts guns are just rifles that have been demilled...then put back together using a US reciever.....honestly I would sink the $350 into purchasing a good piece of equiptment, not that it wont be ok, but sink the money into something better....for $500 you can have a Vector Arms AK...polish parts(some of the best) on a US reciever, the company has an outstanding reputation for builds, and you get a 5yr warranty.....dont get that with your Romanian. Also who did the build? what reciever is it on? these are important questions, was it put together right? any issues after it was put together? how does the bore look? any pitting or rusting?


also please explain the situation with the sale again? your not being to clear.....is this going to be a private sale? I know Texas is a very gun friendly state and am assuming that private sales are perfectly legal(ask) if so there is no need to be transfering anything....you give the guy the money, the rifle is yours...that is again if private sales are legal to do in your area, you or the individual are NOT convicted felons, and you are of legal age to purchase a firearm.....again ASK before doing anything

in FL it is perfectly legal to do a private sale, but I will do it only with individuals that I know or with someone who has a concealed weapons permit....if it was any Joe off the street and he was interested in a firearm I had for sale I would want it to be transfered over into his name as well(has to be done at a gun shop, your FFL) that means the FFL calls in a background check and if you or the individual has a clean record the gun can be bought and transfered into your name.....now with that you have to pay a transfer fee and background check call in fee......so this guy is probably just looking to cover his ass(get you checked out to see if you are ok to own the gun, and to get it transfered out of his name into yours) that should all cost about $30 to do

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2959/akxw8.th.png

there is a pic

i think youre right on the quality thing, i would love to get a Polish made ak but i thought the first one would be a beater and in the future i would upgrade and sell this one but nothing is definite now. only thing that is definite is that i will have an ak within the next few weeks.

here is the link http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akxw8.png

i mean is there actually any difference between a wasr and a "g"???

see any good deals on any sites for Polish, yiorgo?

[Mrufka]

How about oryginal Polish Beryl rifle in 5.56 mm availability By Mid November 2007.
http://www.lancasterarms.com/index.html

[yiorgo]

to me a Romanian is Romanian....the G kits may be a little better quality that a WASR.....I HATE WASRs, they are complete junk, they are basically the reject parts left over from the factory....most have canted sights, horrible trigger slap, mags wobble to all hell......I can never understand why anyone would ever buy one when for two hundred more you can have a Vector arms AK here is a great site with great deals.....if your a member of AR15.com forums they even give u a discount...Im just sayin :)

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/


I mean look at this deal you can beat this.....why the hell would anyone want a WASR or Gkit when this is out there for a few pennies more
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=233


if you look at the AK section you will see the Vectors toward the bottom, they also have milled but those go for around $800....to much money I think for something heavy and will retain heat more....better to go stamped, plus if your going to spend that kind of money go with the best which would be Arsenal AKs(bulgarian) the cream of the crop

Vector does have more styles in AKs they also have 2 models that are sidefolders, I have the E german/polish tantal side folder and LOVE it....the guys at Atlantic can order anything.


now the thought of a polish Beryl makes me CRAZY!! I love those rifles.....but coming from Lancaster worries me, the quality control is spotty at best, I have seen some of there rifles they have sent out completely pitted everywhere parked over and mailed off like it was ok, plus the fact that there rifles are all Romanian G parts kits ercks me too...$500-$600 for a Romanian parts kit put together? those kits were going for $100 not so long agao....no thanks they can keep it.....some people love them others hate them, I will hold my money for another Vector

[GHL]

I picked up a Lancaster build on a Romanian G kit and couldn't be happier with it for what it is. They are available from Atlantic as well, and are covered by a lifetime warranty.

As far as the transfer issue, it sounds as if he is an FFL. If it is on his ledger then he has to account for it, and as an FFL, is required to sell it according to BATF guidelines (which is probably why he won't do a "face to face" transaction off the books).

[Martial]

yiorgo (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=3417) is full of crap. I own a WASR and it's just fine. Nothing bent, nothing canted and it shoots like a dream. It came out of the box with a TAPCO trigger assembly and there is no trigger slap. All you need to do is refinish the furniture. All this sh*t-talking about WASRs is elitist snobbery.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

yiorgo (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=3417) is full of crap. I own a WASR and it's just fine. Nothing bent, nothing canted and it shoots like a dream. It came out of the box with a TAPCO trigger assembly and there is no trigger slap. All you need to do is refinish the furniture. All this sh*t-talking about WASRs is elitist snobbery.

cool, by the way nice location...c/o '06, looks like fran is trying pretty hard to keep that $2 mil a season salary

im thinking about just checking out that romanian G just to see whats up, but of course im always open to suggestions/constructive criticism

[gaijinsamurai]

When I bought my WASR (summer 0f 2000), it was pretty much the only thing you could get at the time. Since then, I've added two more AKs to my collection, a Polish under-folder and a Romanian side-folder. I keep hearing how Romanian AKs are crap, but honestly, other than the half-assed finish on the stock, mine is fine. I've never had any malfunctions, accuracy is acceptable, and it fires just as well as every other AK I've fired.
Would I trade it for a Krebs or Vector if given the chance? Of course, but I'm happy with it.

[T.H.E. rooster]

My WASR is just fine too. Not the best looking of ak's, but it does what it does best without malfunctioning. You're going to need to get some different mags though, if that's a polymer promag it was talking about. Not sure about everyone's experiences, but the bolt carrier on my gun caught the edge of the mag when cycling and busted the top of it off. Stick to the metal mags.

[yiorgo]

actually no my friend it is not as you say ELITIST SNOBBERY...its just fact, dont get your panties in a bunch....do WASRs work, yea out of a bunch of 10 in a shop you may find one or 2 that is good to go.....but by no means can you ever compare a WASR to a vector or arsenal.....you wonder why romanian AK(mainly the WASR) get a bad rap?? because they are junk, they ARE the reject parts left over, they are original single stack mags that have been tinkered with over at century arms(dont even get me started on them)


to the OP, just do a search on WASRs and read reviews....you will see before long a pattern....they are low end starter AKs at BEST....mostly complete garbage


do yourself a favor and save yourself some heartache.....buy quality, and buy ONCE.....you buy quality the first time and you dont waste money later on going cheap.

take it for what its worth.....if your looking to spend around $250-$350 I would suggest looking at Saigas(russian reciever, great build for the money) or a nice Mak 90(cant go wrong with a chinease rifle, very strong)

[Old Dominion]

What receiver is it built on? Who built it? ( you want one thats built on a NDS or Armory receiver) I've built 2 romy Gs and they are great shooting rifles. As long as it's been put together well with a quility receiver $350 ain't that bad at all. For what it's worth I hear that the Pro mags suck, US made w/ 3 parts. Get you some E. european mags. Make sure that the rifle has enough US parts with out that mag. You want (1) Receiver, FCG (3) parts,(5) pistol grip, or (6) slant brake, or (7) gas piston. You need atleast any combination of 6 US parts with a muzzle attachment to be legal. Good luck. There's nothing wrong with a well built Romy G. Go to www.akforum.net and look around.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/TimDawg/7543trs146.jpg

[yiorgo]

yes stay away from promags...they are poor quality

if your going to go with a polymer mag go with the Bulgarian ribbed mag will have a #10 in a circle on them(not the mag with outlines of bullets on them, they stink as well) or the polish slabside mags

[GHL]

Yiorgo, I don't disagree that most WASR's are problematic and personally I would not buy one. But I think your statement smacks of the main thing that perpetuates internet arguments and BS... you stated your opinion as though it was established fact.

I'd say Gaiginsamurai's assessment is pretty spot on; realistic and objective.

Good looking "G", Old Dominion.

[LaoSexMachine]

I own two WASRs and I haven't had any problems with them at all. Would I buy another one? Of course.

[maw]

i've got a bunch of ak's and for what it's worth i don't think i'd go for a wasr. why should you when you can pick up a yugo m70 for $430? and from there it's just a short hop and a skip to a vector under folder built on polish parts ($550).

now a decent romy kit built on say a nodakspud/dan coonan receiver is a different animal and i'd welcome one into my safe.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

well im SOL the guy sold it over the weekend at the range

so this thread has taken a new direction

now im looking for good deals

[gaijinsamurai]

Remember, ANY AK is better than NO AK!!!!!