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SOG
10-29-2007, 06:42 PM
By THOMAS WAGNER, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 29, 8:22 AM ET

LONDON - King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia accused Britain on Monday of failing to act on information the Saudis provided that might have averted London's deadly July 7, 2005, suicide bombings.

Abdullah told the British Broadcasting Corp. that Britain was not doing enough in the war on terror. He made the comments in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, hours before arriving in London for a state visit.

"I believe that most countries are not taking this issue too seriously, including, unfortunately, Great Britain," he said through a translator. "We have sent information to Great Britain before the terrorist attacks in Britain, but unfortunately no action was taken and it may have been able to avert the tragedy."

The king did not specify what information Saudi Arabia provided. However, the BBC reported Abdullah's remark was linked to a long-held Saudi leadership claim that it gave Britain information that might have averted the 2005 attack.

Months before the July 7, 2005, attack in which four suicide bombers killed 52 people and wounded hundreds on London's transit network, Saudi Arabia told the British and U.S. governments that it had arrested a young Saudi man who confessed to raising money for a terrorist attack in crowded areas of the British capital, officials have told The Associated Press.

The Saudis obtained information that the attack would involve explosives and a Syrian contact for financing, and that at least some of the four attackers would be British citizens, according to officials in several countries with direct access to the information. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was classified.

The officials said at the time that the investigation had not connected any players from the July 2005 attacks to the original Saudi warning and that the information provided in December 2004 did not provide attackers' names, a date, specific location or time of attack.

But they said the information gleaned from the suspect after he was captured returning to Saudi Arabia was detailed enough to heighten British concerns about the possibility of an attack around July 2005 in crowded sections of London, including in nightclubs.

In a 2006 report, Britain's Intelligence and Security Committee, a panel of lawmakers that reports to parliament, said it had examined Saudi Arabia's claims and found "some information was passed to the (intelligence) agencies about possible terrorist planning for an attack in the U.K." The report said, "It was examined by the agencies who concluded that the plan was not credible" and there had been no relevant advance warnings about the bombings.

On another topic, the king said he believes that a forthcoming Middle East peace conference in the United States will fail unless the Palestinians' needs are taken more seriously.

International pressure is growing on Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a common vision of a final peace deal before a Middle East peace conference. The meeting is expected to take place in Annapolis, Md., in November or December.

"We are hearing that our Palestinian brethren are not very optimistic about the progress that has been achieved thus far," the king said.

"And I believe that unless a serious effort is put into this in order to reach agreements that satisfy the Palestinians, and the Arab world and the Islamic world, then I believe the conference may not be successful."

Human rights activists criticized the decision to permit Abdullah's visit — the first by a Saudi monarch in 20 years.

Kate Allen, Amnesty International's British director, said Prime Minister Gordon Brown should "make absolutely clear that the extent and severity of human rights abuses in King Abdullah's country are totally unacceptable."

The acting leader of Britain's opposition Liberal Democrats, Vince Cable, said he will boycott all ceremonial events during the king's four-day visit to protest the kingdom's human rights record and other issues.

The king's visit will include a banquet held by the Queen Elizabeth II and a meeting with David Cameron, leader of the main opposition Conservative Party.

Brown's office did not say Monday whether he would raise human rights issues with the king. But it praised Saudi Arabia for recently establishing a human rights council, holding local council elections and suggesting that women may soon get the right to vote.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/britain_saudi_arabia

:roll: sounds like the king needs to drink more wine and satisfy more wenches...

Laworkerbee
10-29-2007, 06:45 PM
What very large brass balls this man has.

Macs.
10-29-2007, 06:50 PM
In other news...

Porsche CEO slams customers for driving too fast.

D-gin
10-29-2007, 06:51 PM
"I believe that most countries are not taking this issue too seriously".

That's the pot calling the kettle black.

Mu-Meson
10-29-2007, 08:21 PM
I can understand where King Abu is coming from. I mean if you spend billions and billions of dollars on funding extremist imams and mosques worldwide, you fund terrorist groups the world over with petrodollars, and rule over one of the most oppressive theocracies in the world then I too would feel a little upset if nobody took it seriously.

Kilo
10-30-2007, 02:45 AM
I can understand where King Abu is coming from. I mean if you spend billions and billions of dollars on funding extremist imams and mosques worldwide, you fund terrorist groups the world over with petrodollars, and rule over one of the most oppressive theocracies in the world then I too would feel a little upset if nobody took it seriously.

and 4/5 of the 911 terrorists were Saudis

so....tell me again why America invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia ?

Hebrew_Hammer
10-30-2007, 02:59 AM
and 4/5 of the 911 terrorists were Saudis

so....tell me again why America invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia ?

They are bastards, but they still are OUR bastardsp-) Do i right that in Saudi Arabia you will be sentenced to death for converting to Christianity? If I ever go there I sure would tell anyone that I am an EVIL JEW:)

AmandlaEwetu
10-30-2007, 04:59 AM
They are bastards, but they still are OUR bastardsp-) Do i right that in Saudi Arabia you will be sentenced to death for converting to Christianity? If I ever go there I sure would tell anyone that I am an EVIL JEW:)



i dont think the Saudi's are our bitches :-(when they control the oil and debt ect,and they have somehow got good christian boys dying for the sunni cause in Iraq,and soon to be in Persia...:-*$

with friends like these who needs enemies....whoever pays the piper calls the tune:oops:

Hebrew_Hammer
10-30-2007, 06:21 AM
i dont think the Saudi's are our bitches :-(when they control the oil and debt ect,and they have somehow got good christian boys dying for the sunni cause in Iraq,and soon to be in Persia...:-*$

with friends like these who needs enemies....whoever pays the piper calls the tune:oops:

Sad but true...

Warlord
10-30-2007, 12:13 PM
Although the ideology that runs the terrorists have originated from here in Saudi and that there are an endless supply of Saudi volunteers for Paradise tours, the Saudis, at least on the surface and as far as I see, have been tough on homegrown terrorists. Don't forget, there's no due process here. Our truck driver has been arrested on suspicion of links to or being friends with known terror suspect, it's been 9 months now and we haven't heard a lick from him. The intensity of gun battles between the security forces and the terrorists are such that we were at one time not allowed to travel in 3 districts of one city. You'd often see civilian cars suddenly sounding sirens and lights stopping a car or a civilian. Presumably, they're undercover agents.

I'm not defending the king - just thought that you might need to know something from someone on the ground.

Laworkerbee
10-30-2007, 12:36 PM
Thanks Warlord I always appreciate your take on whats happening in the Kingdom.

Freibier
10-30-2007, 01:52 PM
Saudi Arabia needs a french revolution

Lazy Lob
10-30-2007, 02:29 PM
Saudi Arabia needs a french revolution

I’d love to see the Scarlet Pimpernel in a burqa.




They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Saudis seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell?
That demned elusive Pimperhmed
He meddles with the Saudi Revolution
Popping in and out each week
Spoiling every lovely execution
La, what cheek!
They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Saudis seek him everywhere
If you should see him, please do give a yell!
That demned elusive Pimperhmed
They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Saudis seek him everywhere
Oh, Pimpy, how the Saudis do implore you
Simply to stay home in bed
With all your interference
It's a chore to chop a head!
They seek him here, they seek him there
The Muttawa seek him everywhere!
He give the Saudis nothing but frustration
Sink me! He's a spoilsport
Each and every demned decapitation
He cuts short
They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Saudis seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell?
That demned elusive Pimperhmed

Warlord
10-31-2007, 02:09 AM
Saudi Arabia needs a french revolution

I think it still might happen.

Many of the teenage and young adults here resent the status quo. They rebel at the system by being more Westernized. Just 3 days ago a couple of teenage boys sneaked into the mosque and started rapping in the mosques PA system that could be heard all over the neighborhood. They got arrested, but do you think they give a $h!t? No wey, hombre. But it's going to be a slow process.

Heinemann
10-31-2007, 03:59 AM
This coming from a nation which spreads the poisons of Islam around the world.

LRPV
10-31-2007, 10:19 PM
"Abdullah told the British Broadcasting Corp. that Britain was not doing enough in the war on terror."

Can someone remind me of the Saudi contribution to the war on terror? (No, I don't mean funding Wahabi militants).

The Brits must have choked on their tea when they read this...

pacifist
11-01-2007, 03:14 PM
Saudi Arabia needs a french revolution

I'm afraid it would be more like iranian revolution that overthrew the shah. Democracy doesn't have much appeal in that part of the world.