View Full Version : Photo essay or recent San Francisco rally.
I can't think of a name
11-02-2007, 07:57 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/
They don't like the troops I guess.
tipsovr
11-02-2007, 09:24 PM
Welcome to kalifornia; land of lunitics. God bless the freedom of speech.:roll:
Just think, If W and Cheney die, Pelosi (San Fran's hero female dog takes over) Get out your white flags everyone.
AZRON
11-02-2007, 09:26 PM
While you're over there checkout the Hillary pics.
I've been viewing this site about once a month for the last year.
I never thought I would feel this way about fellow Americans. I'm completely disgusted by these people.
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/i_pledge_aversion_to_the_flag/IMG_0057.JPG
This guy is tripping balls on something.
vinny_121_ND
11-02-2007, 09:37 PM
I seriously don't get it. Military, national guard comes in and rescues them while there is a raging fire going on, and they're protesting. These acts of stupidity, is in the range of super stupid.
I seriously don't get it. Military, national guard comes in and rescues them while there is a raging fire going on, and they're protesting. These acts of stupidity, is in the range of super stupid.
They are a bunch of rebellious kids and loser adults who are still hooked on drugs from when they were rebellious kids. There is no other explanation for the utter stupidity of these traitors.
jtv3062
11-02-2007, 10:01 PM
The few positive things the school kids in SF had was the ROTC. The city cancelled the program.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/15/BAG2HMD46B1.DTL
After 90 years in San Francisco high schools, the Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps must go, the San Francisco school board decided Tuesday night.
The Board of Education voted 4-2 to eliminate the popular program, phasing it out over two years.
Dozens of JROTC cadets at the board meeting burst into tears or covered their faces after the votes were cast.
"We're really shocked,'' said fourth-year Cadet Eric Chu, a senior at Lowell High School, his eyes filling with tears. "It provided me with a place to go."
The proposal approved by the board also creates a task force to develop alternatives to the program that will be tried out next year at various high schools.
The board's decision was loudly applauded by opponents of the program.
Their position was summed up by a former teacher, Nancy Mancias, who said, "We need to teach a curriculum of peace."
The board's move to dismantle the popular program was led by board members Dan Kelly and Mark Sanchez with support from Sarah Lipson and Eric Mar. Casting votes against it were Jill Wynns and Norman Yee. Board member Eddie Chin was absent.
"I think people should not despair too much," Sanchez said. "I think now the work begins -- to work within the community to develop new programs that will fulfill the needs of our students."
About 1,600 San Francisco students participate in JROTC at seven high schools across the district.
Opponents said the armed forces should have no place in public schools, and the military's discriminatory stance on gays makes the presence of JROTC unacceptable.
"We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions," said Sandra Schwartz of the American Friends Service Committee, an organization actively opposing JROTC nationwide. "In a healthy democracy ... you contain the military. You must contain the military."
Students, parents and school staff from each of the seven high schools converged outside the school board meeting carrying signs and waving at cars, some of which honked in support.
At least 100 cadets edged into Franklin Street waving their signs before being pushed back to the sidewalk by their ROTC instructors.
Yet, in the end, the effort -- one of several rallies in the last several weeks -- fell on deaf ears.
"This is where the kids feel safe, the one place they feel safe," Robert Powell, a JROTC instructor at Lincoln High School and a retired Army lieutenant colonel, said earlier in the evening. "You're going to take that away from them?"
Opponents acknowledged the program is popular and even helps some students stay in school and out of trouble.
Yet they also said the program exists to lure students to sign up for the armed forces.
"It's basically a branding program, or a recruiting program for the military," Kelly said before the meeting.
The school district and the military share the $1.6 million annual cost of the program, with the military paying $586,000, or half the salaries of 15 instructors -- all of whom are retired military personnel. The district pays the other half of salaries and $394,000 in benefits.
Earlier, Mayor Gavin Newsom weighed in on the debate, chastising the board for the effort to eliminate JROTC.
"The move sends the wrong message," he said. "It's important for the city not to be identified with disrespecting the sacrifice of men and women in uniform."
Students in the program receive physical education or elective credits required for graduation.
A budget analysis found that the district could hire nine teachers with the money the district now spends on JROTC -- enough to cover the gym and elective courses for the 1,600 students should the program be eliminated.
But there wouldn't be money to create an alternative program serving that many students, Wynns said.
"I think the people who want to get rid of it have a responsibility to look at how we're going to pay for that and what we're going to do to replace it," she added.
Newsom also said he believed the vote would push more city residents away from the public schools.
"You think this is going to help keep families in San Francisco?" the mayor added. "No. It's going to hurt."
On other matters, the board introduced a resolution that makes race a factor in deciding what school a child will attend starting with the 2008-09 school year. No action was taken. Chronicle staff writer Cecilia M. Vega contributed to this report. E-mail Jill Tucker at jtucker@sfchronicle.com (jtucker@sfchronicle.com)
TacoDelRio
11-02-2007, 10:11 PM
Ah... our northern metropolis of nutcases...
vinny_121_ND
11-02-2007, 10:43 PM
I hope Eric Chu gets a good place to go after high school since they cut jrotc. Pisses me off man. Heard a lot of grumbles about national guard being sent to iraq during those fires. Don't blame Bush, blame californian government and school teacher Nancy Mancias, who said, "We need to teach a curriculum of peace." . Now as a result, over a billion dollars in damages, and lost forests have to be fixed.
We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions"
Fires did alright.
Calanen
11-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Welcome to kalifornia; land of lunitics. God bless the freedom of speech.:roll:
Just think, If W and Cheney die, Pelosi (San Fran's hero female dog takes over) Get out your white flags everyone.
Hey the San Diegans are Ok...but San Fran is the home of the, well...alternative thinkers...
The Duke
11-02-2007, 11:25 PM
I think Clete made a thread here about Frank Chu, the king of all S.F. Protestors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWl_K_LpcI
usa320
11-02-2007, 11:30 PM
communists marching in a republican sponsored rally???
Jesus christ the Gipper is rolling in his grave.
If anything, retards like these HURT the anti-war crowd more then they help...
They march "against the war" and in the end they end up marching "For marijuana" or "To Free Palestine" or to "Create a glorious socialist revolution". These people are so irrational that they dont realize they are doing significant damage to the very cause they are supposed to represent...
Ordie
11-03-2007, 01:17 AM
That's a normal demonstration.
dangerclose
11-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Would coastal California just fall into the sea already?
b0sco
11-03-2007, 12:34 PM
Where's the teargas when you need it...
sad, i spent 4 years in jrotc in high school, it helped me greatly with coming into the service and understanding the military way of life. to deprive this from these kids is terrible, and an act of ignorance from the city whose obvious closed minded views of the service are still present.
Partial_Panel
11-03-2007, 01:07 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/passive-aggressive_syndrome/IMG_9676.JPG
So, Billy Badass here is showing his overwhelming desire for peace....by wishing death on another?
Do I detect just a hint of hypocrisy here, or am I just unable to get in synch with his obviously great and complex mind?
I would love to send that girl with braded hair wearing a nose ring and an Arafat scarf to Ramalah or Saudia Arabia...
Do all left wing, socialists suffer from ADD? Take it easy people, stick to one theme; you won't solve the Iraq war, free Tookie, Viva La Che, Free Palestine all at once.
seraosha
11-03-2007, 04:47 PM
You know, I left Cali back in the early '90's because I thought it had hit it's low point...being a native and loving the beach, I just couldn't stand the whacko's anymore, and packed my bags.
I haven't regretted leaving California once.
But now, yeah guys...thanks. Now I'm ashamed to be from there.
I hope San Francisco is destroyed in an Earthquake and burns to the ground and all those tools are destitute, groveling for help. And when a National Guardsman is there with food, water and shelter they get a wake up call.
And if no Guardsmen are sent in to assist, I wouldn't shed a tear for those communist hiptards.
Sorry to rant, but jeez.
Henry's Fork
11-03-2007, 05:14 PM
Looks quite tame for a City rally actually.
You know, I left Cali back in the early '90's because I thought it had hit it's low point...being a native and loving the beach, I just couldn't stand the whacko's anymore, and packed my bags.
I haven't regretted leaving California once.
But now, yeah guys...thanks. Now I'm ashamed to be from there.
I hope San Francisco is destroyed in an Earthquake and burns to the ground and all those tools are destitute, groveling for help. And when a National Guardsman is there with food, water and shelter they get a wake up call.
And if no Guardsmen are sent in to assist, I wouldn't shed a tear for those communist hiptards.
Sorry to rant, but jeez.
I feel the same bro, but this native Oaklander wont let the hippie scum from all over the world who flock in droves to the Bay Area, push me off my turf.
Besides, getting on all their progressive nerves with my caveman morals and politics is great sport. Specially when they look like they are about to have a heart attack.
Lion of War
11-03-2007, 05:22 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/IMG_9696.JPG
BloodyTalon
11-03-2007, 05:33 PM
You know what's funny/sad? UC Berkeley is less liberal than SF. Me and my friends can walk down Telegraph Ave. in our ACUs without even being heckled. I doubt i can do the same thing in Haigh-Ashbury.
loganinkosovo
11-03-2007, 11:57 PM
I never thought I would feel this way about fellow Americans. I'm completely disgusted by these people.
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/i_pledge_aversion_to_the_flag/IMG_0057.JPG
This guy is tripping balls on something.
Nah....he just has his head so far up his ass that if he farted he'd blow his brains out.
Rapier55
11-04-2007, 01:45 AM
You know what's funny/sad? UC Berkeley is less liberal than SF. Me and my friends can walk down Telegraph Ave. in our ACUs without even being heckled. I doubt i can do the same thing in Haigh-Ashbury.
When I was there the Berkeley College Republicans were one of the biggest clubs on campus and probably the most organized. I believe they still hold that reputation. My best bud was president for a while. Watching him handle himself during the anti-affirmative action bake sale was impressive.
However, it's definitely lost that far left liberal flavor it once had. Most people outside the Bay Area don't realize this change. I was there during the buildup and beginning of OIF. I believe they recruited/bused in high school kids for demonstrations. Even then Sproul Plaza wasn't very impressive. It seemed like most students were more worried about grad school or landing that well paying job.
that was a bitchin post of protest pictures. well, im off to the range!
Beowulf
11-04-2007, 02:51 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/IMG_9693_2.JPG
I'd hit it.
Death.
11-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Isn't defacing the flag a crime? ^^
its not a crime, its art! and constitutionally protected!
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/IMG_9693_2.JPG
I'd hit it.
yes. if shes bathed recently then x2.
can't stand to see people deface my flag like that, i dont care is she is hot or not. the american flag is not a piece of poster board for people to write on, burn or stand upon.
sorry to the guys from california that actually understand the need for the military but have to live with this usa-holes that take their freedoms for granted and dont appreciate the men and women of our armed services. **** like that burns me up
titget
11-04-2007, 07:34 PM
I never thought I would feel this way about fellow Americans. I'm completely disgusted by these people.
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/i_pledge_aversion_to_the_flag/IMG_0057.JPG
This guy is tripping balls on something.
These people aren't Americans...they have no idea what that word means....
Ordie
11-04-2007, 11:47 PM
Right or wrong, I'm happy that people have not forgotten thier Constitutional Rights.
Beowulf
11-05-2007, 12:09 AM
Right or wrong, I'm happy that people have not forgotten thier Constitutional Rights.
They have forgotten how valuable and unique their constitutional rights are, especially in relation to many of the regimes for which they proselytize .
vinny_121_ND
11-05-2007, 12:34 AM
true. They have no idea how lucky they are to live in the United States. It's taken for granted, and I hope these people are in a very very small minority.
Cipher
11-05-2007, 12:36 AM
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/
They don't like the troops I guess.
You guess? I was raised here my whole life and it's crazy. People would give me cold stares when I get coffee or something in the city after a drill.
Ordie
11-05-2007, 12:41 AM
They have forgotten how valuable and unique their constitutional rights are, especially in relation to many of the regimes for which they proselytize .
Do you mean the current Bush Administration?
The wiretapping & search and seizure without warrants and probable cause in violation of the 4th Amendment.
The detention, especially of US citizens, designated as enemy combatants, without the right of a speedy trial, or to be confronted with witnesses or to have legal counsil in violation of the 6th Amendment.
The physical interrogation methods being used in violation of the 8th Amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.No sir.
I don't think these folks have forgotten how valuable and unique thier constitutional rights are.
It does not matter if I agree or disagree with any of the individuals in the photos.
But what's important is that if we don't use our rights....we lose it.
Cipher
11-05-2007, 12:50 AM
But now, yeah guys...thanks. Now I'm ashamed to be from there.
I hope San Francisco is destroyed in an Earthquake and burns to the ground and all those tools are destitute, groveling for help. And when a National Guardsman is there with food, water and shelter they get a wake up call.
I'm a San Franciscan and I'm in the Army. We're not all that bad; there are a lot of Chinese American WWII vets living in the city and I got to talk to them during the Chinese Autumn festival a few months back.
Beowulf
11-05-2007, 12:57 AM
Do you mean the current Bush Administration?
The wiretapping & search and seizure without warrants and probable cause in violation of the 4th Amendment.
The detention, especially of US citizens, designated as enemy combatants, without the right of a speedy trial, or to be confronted with witnesses or to have legal counsil in violation of the 6th Amendment.
The physical interrogation methods being used in violation of the 8th Amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.No sir.
I don't think these folks have forgotten how valuable and unique thier constitutional rights are.
It does not matter if I agree or disagree with any of the individuals in the photos.
But what's important is that if we don't use our rights....we lose it.
I think that your mention of the Bush administration's actions are a bit of a red herring, don't forget that laws are to be passed by the House, and the SC can still deem them unconstitutional, there are still checks on executive power, but that was not the discussion I wanted to have.
My point is that even considering all that you have mentioned, many of those protesters fail to recognize that they live in one of the most free, most prosperous nations in the history of human civilization and instead advocate against our system and for systems that have historically been incredibly less prosperous and free.
There is a fair bit of irony there.
That was my only point.
seraosha
11-05-2007, 09:02 AM
I'm a San Franciscan and I'm in the Army. We're not all that bad; there are a lot of Chinese American WWII vets living in the city and I got to talk to them during the Chinese Autumn festival a few months back.
I stand corrected, and retract my schmuck statement.
I lived in SF for a year while going to school, and yea...to condemn a whole city for the actions of those fruitloops is God's call, not mine.
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