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signatory
11-04-2007, 10:54 AM
Bad news for the antiwar crowd.


Afghan child mortality drops by 25 pct - ministry
Sun Nov 4, 2007 6:19am EST

KABUL, Nov 4 (*******) - Child mortality has dropped by 25 percent in Afghanistan since the Taliban government was overthrown in 2001, meaning that 89,000 more children survive each year, the Afghan Health Ministry said on Sunday.

After nearly three decades of war, Afghanistan's health indicators are among the worst in the world, but Afghan government and international efforts are beginning to bear fruit, with healthcare reaching 85 percent of the population.

The number of children dying before the age of five had dropped from an estimated 257 per 1,000 in 2001, to 191 in 2006, according to a survey conducted by Johns Hopkins University, quoted by the ministry.

"One of the Afghanistan's biggest miseries has been the death of children at a young age due to the lack of health facilities and equipment," President Hamid Karzai said on Sunday.

"I am thankful to all the health service organisations and the international community from the bottom of my heart," he said. "This is the biggest happiness in Afghanistan -- that we are now able to keep 89,000 children alive."

Only two countries -- Angola and Sierra Leone -- have worse child mortality rates than Afghanistan, according to UNICEF.

Afghanistan is far behind its neighbours Pakistan where 99 children per 1,000 die before their fifth birthday and Iran where the number is 36 per 1,000. Under-five mortality in the United States is seven children per 1,000 and in Norway, Sweden and Finland, it is just four, UNICEF figures show.

The United Nations, international donors and non-governmental organisations have spent billions of dollars trying to rebuild Afghanistan's infrastructure since U.S.-led and Afghan forces toppled the Taliban in 2001 for failing to hand over al Qaeda leaders in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

But a Taliban insurgency and poor security continues to hamper efforts to deliver aid and reconstruction to large parts of the country.
http://www.*******.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSISL222586

Weasel
11-04-2007, 11:28 AM
Bad news for the antiwar crowd.


http://www.*******.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSISL222586

Antiwar crowd wants a high child mortality?

SE7ENSIX
11-04-2007, 03:21 PM
Antiwar crowd wants a high child mortality?

It's just less ammo for them to use against the war.

Mu-Meson
11-04-2007, 04:08 PM
Yeah, its just like that article about decreasing violence in Iraq being hard on Iraqi gravediggers. Who knows, perhaps the antiwar crowd could spin this to say that all these surviving children are forcing families into abject poverty trying to support them.

Weasel
11-04-2007, 04:11 PM
It's just less ammo for them to use against the war.

Thereīs so much ammo, they donīt depend on a single round. :)

Dasein
11-04-2007, 04:19 PM
That the first thing the war supporters think of is that this will help them politically against domestic rivals shows just how bankrupt their position really is. There was never a war on terrorism, it was a war on liberals and Democrats.

Weasel
11-04-2007, 04:27 PM
Good observation, Dasein.

HappyCat
11-04-2007, 04:42 PM
That the first thing the war supporters think of is that this will help them politically against domestic rivals shows just how bankrupt their position really is. There was never a war on terrorism, it was a war on liberals and Democrats.

That is of course the first thing I thought of when I heard this news. It never crossed into my mind that some parent's lives were not destroyed by the death of a baby. As a liberal and a Democrat I can say that I would like it if you never tried to assume what I am thinking again. Please don't speak for me.

Dasein
11-04-2007, 05:41 PM
I do not see where I ever referred to you, HappyCat.

This is good news, and regardless of one's position on the war in Afghanistan or the Bush administration, or US foreign policy in general, such a decrease in child mortality should be welcomed. If it were posted simply as good news, or even as evidence of US success, that would be fine and expected. That the only thing signatory thought to comment on, however, was that this would be 'bad news' for the anti-war crowd speaks quite a bit about how he sees the purpose of this war and its relation to US politics.

HappyCat
11-04-2007, 09:44 PM
That the first thing the war supporters think of is that...

Think you referred to me and a lot of other people with that sweeping statement right there.

I don't care how Signatory thinks, I just found it a very blunt and inaccurate statement that this is how the war supporters view things, I support that war in the hopes that more events (such as the one mentioned in the article) occur.

SE7ENSIX
11-04-2007, 09:51 PM
Bad news for the antiwar crowd.

I thought this was about antiwar supporters... the ones who PROTEST war... not support it

worm
11-04-2007, 11:01 PM
89,000 more future suicide bombers

HappyCat
11-04-2007, 11:08 PM
89,000 more future suicide bombers

and apparently 1 more hijacker they can all look up to.

SE7ENSIX
11-04-2007, 11:09 PM
89,000 more future suicide bombers

Oooo, someone's gonna take offence to that one

Aerosoul
11-04-2007, 11:26 PM
So the US invaded to save Afghan babies?

oswald
11-05-2007, 12:11 AM
No, apparently the US invaded to make more suicide bombers :cantbeli:

IraGlacialis
11-05-2007, 12:34 AM
So the US invaded to save Afghan babies?
Of course not, silly. The only reason child mortality rate is dropping is because the US military is fattening them up for the production of M.R.E.s to feed to soldiers.

Seriously, that is great news. Hopefully this extra 25% will help build up the country in the future.

I also see a future DOATW if no suspension/banning comes his way.

Ratamacue
11-05-2007, 12:39 AM
I can't believe how disturbingly the people on this forum can twist and manipulate news that should be rather pure in its good nature.

IraGlacialis
11-05-2007, 12:42 AM
^^^^^
Maybe they should become politicians.