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EvanL
05-17-2004, 12:08 AM
Old article that still brings a tear to my eye.

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Kevin Myers writes "National Post

Friday, April 26, 2002

CANADIAN SOLDIERS KILLED
Salute to a brave and modest nation

As our country honours the last of its four dead soldiers, we reprint a remarkable tribute to Canada's record of quiet valour in wartime that appeared in the Telegraph, one of Britain's largest circulation newspapers.







LONDON -- Until the deaths last week of four Canadian soldiers accidentally killed by a U.S. warplane in Afghanistan, probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware that Canadian troops were deployed in the region. And as always, Canada will now bury its dead, just as the rest of the world as always will forget its sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does.

It seems that Canada's historic mission is to come to the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then, once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored. Canada is the perpetual wallflower that stands on the edge of the hall, waiting for someone to come and ask her for a dance. A fire breaks out, she risks life and limb to rescue her fellow dance-goers, and suffers serious injuries. But when the hall is repaired and the dancing resumes, there is Canada, the wallflower still, while those she once helped glamorously cavort across the floor, blithely neglecting her yet again.

That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North American continent with the United States, and for being a selfless friend of Britain in two global conflicts. For much of the 20th century, Canada was torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully got the gratitude it deserved.

Yet its purely voluntary contribution to the cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any democracy. Almost 10% of Canada's entire population of seven million people served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly 60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire British order of battle.

Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by downright neglect, its unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the popular memory as somehow or other the work of the "British." The Second World War provided a re-run. The Canadian navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack.

More than 120 Canadian warships participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone. Canada finished the war with the third-largest navy and the fourth-largest air force in the world.

The world thanked Canada with the same sublime indifference as it had the previous time. Canadian participation in the war was acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a part in a campaign in which the United States had clearly not participated -- a touching scrupulousness which, of course, Hollywood has since abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality -- unless, that is, they are Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular perception become American, and Christopher Plummer, British. It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to the achievements of its sons and daughters as the rest of the world is completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say of themselves -- and are unheard by anyone else -- that 1% of the world's population has provided 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces. Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth -- in 39 missions on UN mandates, and six on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia.

Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the popular non-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in Somalia, in which out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their regiment was then disbanded in disgrace -- a uniquely Canadian act of self-abasement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international credit.

So who today in the United States knows about the stoic and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in Afghanistan?

Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac, Canada repeatedly does honourable things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it remains something of a figure of fun.

It is the Canadian way, for which Canadians should be proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost.

This week, four more grieving Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well.

© Copyright 2002 National Post"

Ratamacue
05-17-2004, 12:19 AM
Good post. Sad but true. Seems like Canada's always there when needed most only to fade back into the shadows when it's over.

EvanL
05-17-2004, 12:23 AM
Thanks rat.
Its true.
We have always been willing to fight. And always fought with courage and ferocity. There were only 2 types of ppl the Axis feared most. For the Japs it was the Aussies. And for the Krauts it was the Canucks.
Sadly our actions fade away and go un-noticed.
I thought it only proper to post an article like this and my other two threads at this time, seeing as the anniversary of D-Day is coming up fast.

M1A2U2
05-17-2004, 12:27 AM
I agree and thank canada for her sacrafices. I have always given the Canadian troops their proper recognition. However I was still disapointed in you guy for not standing by your friends when we needed you most. You have to ask yourself...which comes first: you image to the rest of the world or standing by your friends?

EvanL
05-17-2004, 12:28 AM
I agree and thank canada for her sacrafices. I have always given the Canadian troops their proper recognition. However I was still disapointed in you guy for not standing by your friends when we needed you most. You have to ask yourself...which comes first: you image to the rest of the world or standing by your friends?
How about consciencious obejection?
As of now, it seems that we had made the right choice on Iraq.

ibstolidude
05-17-2004, 01:16 AM
I agree and thank canada for her sacrafices. I have always given the Canadian troops their proper recognition. However I was still disapointed in you guy for not standing by your friends when we needed you most. You have to ask yourself...which comes first: you image to the rest of the world or standing by your friends?
How about consciencious obejection?
As of now, it seems that we had made the right choice on Iraq.


I have great respect for the Cadanian forces and you may be surprised how those here (not I) have served with them, however the choices each country makes is reflected most by what is best for themselves. You have made the right choice for your country, just as those in the UK did for theirs. What is right can change, as it did for the Spainish and as it may or may not for others.

SFontaine
05-17-2004, 02:02 AM
Heh..

EvanL
05-17-2004, 12:18 PM
Bump

Secret Squirrel
05-17-2004, 01:38 PM
I agree and thank canada for her sacrafices. I have always given the Canadian troops their proper recognition. However I was still disapointed in you guy for not standing by your friends when we needed you most. You have to ask yourself...which comes first: you image to the rest of the world or standing by your friends?
How about consciencious obejection?
As of now, it seems that we had made the right choice on Iraq.

agreed.

Ichhabe
05-17-2004, 01:53 PM
I agree and thank canada for her sacrafices. I have always given the Canadian troops their proper recognition. However I was still disapointed in you guy for not standing by your friends when we needed you most. You have to ask yourself...which comes first: you image to the rest of the world or standing by your friends?


That reply reminds me of the same as having the mooching friend over at your house. You dine him and wine him. You always there for him. Help him out in his many hours of need. But he never contributes back. It is for him just "me me me".

USA, the most powerful nation in the world, and they need help? Well. What can I say? If Bush continuses to walk on the War Path, Im sorry to say that one day the USA will be fresh out of friends.

You American hard-liners can read this the way you like. But one day I'll hope the light will come to you eyes. A friendship works both ways. I may be wrong that it is just the friendly taunting going on between two brother-nations, but many of you need to search yourselves on the issue about Canada, you best pal. Because, up to now, I for the most part see rantings about that great nation. And that is a crying shame.

Jack Mehoff
05-17-2004, 01:55 PM
You American hard-liners can read this the way you like. But one day I'll hope the light will come to you eyes. A friendship works both ways. I may be wrong that it is just the friendly taunting going on between two brother-nations, but many of you need to search yourselves on the issue about Canada, you best pal. Because, up to now, I for the most part see rantings about that great nation. And that is a crying shame.

Like ducimus, Univesal, pinkeye? rofl

Ichhabe
05-17-2004, 02:00 PM
You American hard-liners can read this the way you like. But one day I'll hope the light will come to you eyes. A friendship works both ways. I may be wrong that it is just the friendly taunting going on between two brother-nations, but many of you need to search yourselves on the issue about Canada, you best pal. Because, up to now, I for the most part see rantings about that great nation. And that is a crying shame.

Like ducimus, Univesal, pinkeye? rofl

Can you at least try to give a intelligent reply for once? You have yet to do that. Please surprise me this time.

Jack Mehoff
05-17-2004, 02:03 PM
That was a QUESTION. You said Americans love to rant about Canada, right? Maybe you should give me an example, better yet, give me some names.

Ichhabe
05-17-2004, 02:16 PM
That was a QUESTION. You said Americans love to rant about Canada, right? Maybe you should give me an example, better yet, give me some names.

Are you pretending to be an ignorant? The whole forum is infested with rants against Canada, and Canadians. And to save you time, wont dare to let you get your brain over-clocked: Yes, I do know that there is a lot of antl-Americanism also. And that you gonna reply with the longest sentence you may ever written. It work both ways. Payback is a bla bla bla.
So you can save me for that.

Jack Mehoff
05-17-2004, 02:20 PM
Yeah, the whole forum is ranting against Canada. I hope ducimus19, One, Universal and pinkeye are on your list. rofl

scm77
05-17-2004, 02:24 PM
or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

rofl rofl rofl

Great article. woot

Ichhabe
05-17-2004, 02:24 PM
Yeah, the whole forum is ranting against Canada. I hope ducimus19, One, Universal and pinkeye are on your list. rofl

First: I thi....

Bah! Forget it. Trying to explain something to you is like shouting out from a cliff. You only get the echo back. Not a good basis for a conversation. Talking about conversation. Ever had one?

Jack Mehoff
05-17-2004, 02:27 PM
Come on! Give me some examples and anti-Canadian on the American side. I thought this forum is infested with anti-Canadian like you claimed. This is a very simple request. Please? :lol:

mack pl
05-17-2004, 02:34 PM
Come on! Give me some examples and anti-Canadian on the American side. I thought this forum is infested with anti-Canadian like you claimed. This is a very simple request. Please? :lol:Russian American is anti Canadian(he wanna fight with EvamLloyd few weeks ago)..ohh,well, stupid post but who cares.....regards all :)

papasmerf
05-17-2004, 03:00 PM
Does anyone need a tissue here?