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Chulo
11-07-2007, 04:54 PM
The Olympic Bible

New York Sun Editorial
November 7, 2007

The organizers of the 2008 Olympic Games in China (http://www.nysun.com/related_results.php?term=China) have put the Bible on the list of items that athletes are banned from bringing with them to Beijing (http://www.nysun.com/related_results.php?term=Beijing), we learn from a report in the Catholic News Service, picking up an item in the Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport. This would seem to undermine claims by a Chinese government official, Ye Xiaowen, who told ******* last month that China would accommodate the religious needs of visiting athletes. The Chinese official claimed to ******* that restrictions on Bibles were intended "to prevent illegal vendors from driving up prices, which are kept extremely low by government subsidies." Only a Communist would buy that economic explanation, which makes no sense.
As it so happens one of the great challengers of the Beijing regime, the James Madison of Hong Kong (http://www.nysun.com/related_results.php?term=Hong+Kong), Martin Lee (http://www.nysun.com/related_results.php?term=Martin+Lee), was in our office recently. The topic of the Olympics came up, and Mr. Lee said he and his pro-democracy allies had weighed the pros and cons and come down strongly against boycotting the games. "If you boycott the games, the games will take place anyway, and you miss a golden opportunity," Mr. Lee told us. An opportunity, that is, to press Communist China for expansion of freedom on topics such as, well, being able to bring a Bible into the country.
During the visit here of Mr. Lee, a democratically elected member of the parliament of Hong Kong, talk turned to the way some of America's founders had been emboldened by their religious beliefs. An editor of the Sun asked whether the same applied to those fighting for freedom in Hong Kong and China. Mr. Lee replied, "As a Catholic, I don't mind dying. I go up to heaven. I know somebody is up there, guiding me." It is the fear of sentiments like that that no doubt explains why Chinese Communist authorities would try to keep the Bible out of their country. Once it gets in, there is no telling where the ideas will spread or what will be the consequences.



http://www.nysun.com/article/66023



so much for basic human rights and stuff.. if you cant believe what you want to believe, and i didnt know the Chinese government sold Bibles

I can't think of a name
11-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Korons will be allowed though

Rictor
11-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Probably want to keep the pesky Korean evangelists away. China is apparently having some real issues with them coming over the proselytizing.

SkyUS
11-07-2007, 05:10 PM
What is the big deal you go to the Olympics to pray or to compete in sports?
If I want to pray I do it at home or in church.

Chulo
11-07-2007, 05:32 PM
What is the big deal you go to the Olympics to pray or to compete in sports?
If I want to pray I do it at home or in church.
religion maybe something you put on and take off, but for most people its a way of life. you cant just restrict who you are and what you do based on your religious beliefs based on where you are.

Dasein
11-07-2007, 05:33 PM
Korons will be allowed though


Why would you say that? China's had it's trouble with Islamists in the north-west areas, and generally seems to have little regard for any religion.

Chulo
11-07-2007, 05:36 PM
Why would you say that? China's had it's trouble with Islamists in the north-west areas, and generally seems to have little regard for any religion.
because the report so far only says Bibles and no other religious books.

Dasein
11-07-2007, 05:40 PM
because the report so far only says Bibles and no other religious books.

I would expect a Catholic news service to focus on the Christian aspect of it.

Chulo
11-07-2007, 05:44 PM
I would expect a Catholic news service to focus on the Christian aspect of it.


The Chinese official claimed to ******* that restrictions on Bibles were intended "to prevent illegal vendors from driving up prices, which are kept extremely low by government subsidies."

*******, and Chinese officials claim resections on BIBLEs not holy books

Hutz
11-07-2007, 05:46 PM
Not allowing people to bring their Bibles, Korans, etc is ludicrous. Now I'm not even religious, but taking away liberties of your own citizens is one thing (keeping in mind that country's record for human rights), but doing it to people that have been invited to an international event such as the Olympics which are supposed to represent the best in mankind...But that's just my two cents. Rant over, out.

Ritual
11-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Where is comrade commandant J-10 to clarify this for us when we need him most. :-(

shocker1
11-07-2007, 05:51 PM
What is the big deal you go to the Olympics to pray or to compete in sports?
If I want to pray I do it at home or in church.
That is an ignorant statement

Kilgor
11-07-2007, 05:54 PM
What is the big deal you go to the Olympics to pray or to compete in sports?
If I want to pray I do it at home or in church.

If china' banned the koran, you'd find out.

That of course won't happen, with china's pro middle east policy.

StukaJr
11-07-2007, 06:01 PM
So are the bibles banned from being brought into the country or are the athletes banned from religious practices? Can athletes bring a stack of xerox copies of their bibles or memorize verses? Is this ban on an item or on person's behavioral choice?

I don't get it...

SkyUS
11-07-2007, 06:02 PM
That is an ignorant statement

Looking back, I do see that my statment is ignorant. I should have thought of other deeply religious people. I apolagize to all of you. And yes China should not have do so. Now she has damaged her public image.

shocker1
11-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Looking back, I do see that my statment is ignorant. I should have thought of other deeply religious people. I apolagize to all of you. And yes China should not have do so. Now she has damaged her public image.
Fair enough. Athletes of any religion pray to their God for strength and blessings to win of course. This type athlete would also give all credit to his accomplishments to his God. China is not a good Olympic host and has been made so not by merit but Politics. Would not be the first time.

Ordie
11-07-2007, 06:18 PM
i didnt know the Chinese government sold Bibles

Charlie Soong, born in Hainan rasied and religiously educated in Boston, made his fortune selling translated Bibles to foriegn missionaries in China.

He befriended Sun Yat Sen and gave him seed money to finance the Nationalist Revolution.

His daughers, American educated, married the most prominant Chinese figures of the 20th century.

Soong Ai Ling married HH Kung, the richest man in China.
Soong Ching Ling married Sun Yat Sen, founder of the KMT and she later became the head of the Honorary President of the People's Republic of China.
Soong May Ling married Chiang Kai Shek and was instrumental in lobbying the US for military aide and support.If it weren't for the Bible, China would be a different place today.