View Full Version : Ahmadinejad calls his critics 'traitors'
Snoshi
11-12-2007, 08:07 AM
TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday labeled his critics at home "traitors," and accused them of spying and collaborating with Iran's enemies, state media reported.
Ahmadinejad, who is facing growing domestic criticism over his hardline policies that have led to U.N. Security Council sanctions, did not specifically name any of his critics.
But Ahmadinejad said that he has resisted pressures not only from the West but also from critics at home and he vowed to eventually publicly expose them.
"They sent people to the enemy to regularly give them information from within the ruling system every week," the official IRNA news agency quoted Ahmadinejad as telling a group of students at Science and Industry University in Tehran.
"We even have a recorded speech of one of them who tells the enemy 'Why should you give up? ... Step up pressures to make them (Iran) retreat,'" the state television Web site quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.
He did not elaborate on the alleged recorded speech or specifically say who the enemy was.
Ahmadinejad's critics have stepped up vocal warnings in recent months that the president's hardline policies and defiance against international demands to roll back Iran's nuclear program were turning more countries against Tehran.
Iran's former chief nuclear negotiator — Hasan Rowhani, who is an ally of Ahmadinejad's top rival, former President Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rasfanjani — delivered an unusually sharp rebuke last month to Ahmadinejad, saying he was making more enemies for Iran.
Suspicions over the purpose of Iran's nuclear program have led the U.N. Security Council to impose sanctions over Tehran's refusal to halt its enrichment program. The enrichment process can be used for generating energy or producing the fissile core of nuclear warheads.
The United States and some of its allies accuse Iran of secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons — a charge Iran denies, saying its program is for peaceful purposes including generating electricity.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear
Oh goodie, hes starting to lose it! http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/710/emotmunchlr4.gif
vinny_121_ND
11-12-2007, 09:52 AM
This is democracy. Decisions he makes have the right to be examined and challenged.
Snoshi
11-12-2007, 09:53 AM
This is democracy. Decisions he makes have the right to be examined and challenged.
Since when is Iran considered as a democracy?
vinny_121_ND
11-12-2007, 11:29 AM
Since when is Iran considered as a democracy?
... right, never mind then. Carry on.
Well known rhetoric, isn't it? This guy is simply amusing.
Makes me think of how the Dixie Chicks were also called traitors..
The "democracy" in Iran is a joke, journalists are murdered with no hesitation.
Kurdish iranian journalist Adnan Hassanpour sentenced to death...
http://www.englishpen.org/writersinprison/bulletins/iranadnanhassanpoursentencedtodeath/
This is democracy. Decisions he makes have the right to be examined and challenged.
true. now show the transparent democracy?
Makes me think of how the Dixie Chicks were also called traitors..
But they were right...
vinny_121_ND
11-12-2007, 12:42 PM
true. now show the transparent democracy?
Yeah, true. Um, I decline to argue my argument. Iran needs a lot of reform to their governing style, as well as human rights. Speak out, and you shall be killed. Fail to follow the sharia law, you will be tortured, or killed, or both.
RICHICOQUI
11-12-2007, 03:07 PM
This is democracy. Decisions he makes have the right to be examined and challenged. you got to be joking right?? :cantbeli:
shocker1
11-12-2007, 03:12 PM
Makes me think of how the Dixie Chicks were also called traitors..
Only to those in Dixie
tyovan
11-12-2007, 03:31 PM
The monkey in the suit jacket is starting to go bananas..
Bulletproof
11-12-2007, 03:38 PM
"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday labeled his critics at home "traitors," and accused them of spying and collaborating with Iran's enemies, state media reported."
Seriously, the accusation of spying is getting very old.
m.i.t
11-12-2007, 04:06 PM
nowadays we see too much news and threads about iran ...
l got a expectation Hillary Clinton can not start a war....
but it depens 2012 elections who will be choosen...also 10 years break for US army is enough to restart new operation or war...
vinny_121_ND
11-12-2007, 04:53 PM
you got to be joking right?? :cantbeli:
read my other posts, I explained myself after rethinking about it a little bit.
Kilgor
11-12-2007, 05:12 PM
Makes me think of how the Dixie Chicks were also called traitors..
Did Bush call them traitors ?
Did Bush call them traitors ?
No, its a strawman. Some people who are against the war throw stuff like that out, so they can play the role of persecuted revolutionary.
Lion of War
11-12-2007, 05:38 PM
What politician doesn't call his opponents traitors or un-patriotic.
Snoshi
11-12-2007, 05:40 PM
What politician doesn't call his opponents traitors or un-patriotic.
This is a president of a country who said that those who criticize him(and there is alot to criticize him for) are traitors who cooperate with the enemy...
Lion of War
11-12-2007, 05:51 PM
This is a president of a country who said that those who criticize him(and there is alot to criticize him for) are traitors who cooperate with the enemy...
So.Whats your point.
I also fail to see the point. He is just trying to polarize the situation.
I ll quote Bush, saying the same thing, only in a slightly more prudent way.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists
So.Whats your point.
The label "traitor" gets thrown around a lot in politics, but you don't see leaders accusing the populace of it. That tactic to stifle dissent would be jumped on in an instant if Bush or any western leader tried it.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists
In reference to "leaders who aid and support terrorists" and countries on the fence. Not the US population.
shocker1
11-12-2007, 07:06 PM
I also fail to see the point. He is just trying to polarize the situation.
I ll quote Bush, saying the same thing, only in a slightly more prudent way.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists
WOW ironic!! You accuse someone of polarization of the issue, yet you seem to do it yourself with references to Bush in a thread about Iran's president.:cantbeli:
That wasnt my goal.
I wanted to point out that polarizing like that is done by both sides.
Perhaps not particularly by Bush in the iranian dispute but certainly by him in the 'war against terror'.
Nations who fail to support US in their war on terror will be perceived as helping the enemy.
I think its a bit over the top to call the iranian president a nut and a a wacko because he calls his critics traitors.
And whats better? Calling your own population 'enemies' when they fail to support you or the rest of the world?
I think its a bit over the top to call the iranian president a nut and a a wacko because he calls his critics traitors.
Isn't there plenty of other examples we could use to show hes crazy?
Ofcourse
But not this one :)
I spit on you pathetic man
shocker1
11-13-2007, 01:33 AM
Well there are so many Iran threads I see no need in another for this.
Ahmadinejad: Iran should get ready for its global missions
Tehran (http://www2.irna.com/en/news/line-17/key-79/), Nov 12, IRNA
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President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday, "We should get ready to carry out our significant missions in the world." The president made the remark while addressing students, professors and officials of Iran University of Science and Technology in Tehran.
"We should first resolve our geopolitical issues and then prepare ourselves for the next move," he said.
The enemies try to convince the world that the Islamic Republic of Iran is not capable of handling its own affairs, he said, adding that "In my belief the God Almighty will humiliate the big powers." The enemies try to create obstacles to deviate Iran from path of development and success, said the president.
On Iran's nuclear programs, he said some domestic agents who were at the service of enemies tried to force Iran to deviate from right path and give up its legitimate rights, Ahmadinejad said.
"Some try to indicate that there is a wide gap between leadership and president in taking strategic decisions in the country but they are mistaken and instead we scoffed at them in our meetings," underlined the president.
The country's officials are very coordinated and united in making decisions, said the president.
The main duty of Iran's diplomatic apparatus is to make political arrangement and coordination in order to maintain the country's national interests and cause, said the president.
On mutual talks between Iran and the US on Iraq's security, he said "We cannot remain indifference towards the crimes and massacres of people by occupation forces while the Iraqi nation seeks our assistance."
http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-24/0711124410165245.htm
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