personal weapon prices and regulations

[m.i.t]

l live in Turkey...there is great limitations and expencive licence expenditures for personal weapons...

for example a sig sauer p 228 4500 usd + 2500 usd licence for 5 years...

browning hipower 3300 usd

barettea 2500 usd..

each 9mm round about 1.2 usd...

also only state owned MKEK company can sell the weapons...no private dealers...

l wanna know prices of the guns in your country with with licence payments and regulations...

thanx...

[StukaJr]

USA

Browning Hi-Power list price is about $700 new, Sig's are in the 800-900 range and Beretta 92F's are in a $500... Great variety in used firearms trade so it's possible to find 95%+ firearms for much less than that.

9mm rounds - about 18-20 cents a round, goes lower if you buy bulk or reload your own. Can ship ammo crates straight to your residence or place of work.

Private sales are okay in most states as long as you don't go over a limit set by the state. As long as you are not a felon - DROS fee at the time of the purchase, sales tax and you are good to go. Instant ID check.

California adds a 10 day waiting period for any firearm (unless it's an antique), 25 dollar total DROS fee, no person to person transfer unless it's a long gun over 50 years old, one handgun a month limit, no assault rifles or magazine capacity over 10 rounds (unless bought and registered prior to 2000 ban)

[gaijinsamurai]

That's quite expensive, m.i.t!
Stuka's assessment is pretty accurate. Sometimes, you can get good deals if you spot a slightly used weapon. For example, i bought my Browning Hi-Power for about $350, seven years ago. A friend acquired a Colt Combat Commander .45 for only $200. Those types of prices may not be typical, but it is common to find good deals if you have the patience to wait, and the cash in hand at the right time.

[StukaJr]

Free Amerika is a great place to collect firearms - Estate Sales, flea markets and local auctions are great for picking up great firearms at great prices - unfortunately, Californian residents are out of luck when traveling out of State. Federal Curio and Relics license is a good thing for non-"assault weapons" 50 years and older.

You can often find a deal on a firearm that gets other people jealous - it's a beauty of firearm collection... It sucks that Turkey really sticks it to you for having desire to collect firearms - real damn shame!

[Seraphim]

Holy sh!t thats highway robbery.

[StukaJr]

I wonder what the prosecution is like for owning the above weapons illegally? Say, like cutting out the licensing fee of $2500 to the government?

I don't condone breaking the laws - I'm just interested how many years in the Turkish prison for having unlicensed weapons in Turkey... Do they require license info at the range/shooting club when you show up with a new firearm? Is license to own also a license to carry? What's self-defense rights are like?

$2500 for a "license" is a highway robbery - might have to work on challenging the legislation...

[gaijinsamurai]

After having seen the movie "Midnight Express", I'd think twice about doing something that may land me in a Turkish prison! It ain't worth it!!!!!!!

[LaoSexMachine]

I'm so grateful I live in the US. 2nd Amendment FTW.

[StukaJr]

After having seen the movie "Midnight Express", I'd think twice about doing something that may land me in a Turkish prison! It ain't worth it!!!!!!!

Speak for yourself... All I remember from that movie is sauna make out scene and ****s to the glass... Why was he there again?

[gaijinsamurai]

Hahahahha!!!!!

[cmhm20]

Hm thats pretty steep.

A license in BE costs you 65 euro for 5 years. A quality handgun like a Glock can be had for about 600 euro. A round of 9mm fmj is roughly 0,25 euro depending on the brand and quantity of course.

I suggest that you take a look at www.egunn.de (http://www.egunn.de) you could compare prices from Germany, they are pretty much representative for the European market.

I have been told that Turks in general are gun lovers and that seems to get corroborated by the fact that (illegal) guns often show up in the Turkish community in EU.

MIT, can you shed some light on this? Where do they get the stuff if it is in fact very expensive or hard to get in Turkey?

A Turkish friend of mine told me that in the eighties or early ninetees people were publicly hung for illegal weapons posession in Turkey and that the hangings were broadcasted on TV. Could you give details of these occurrings?

[muck]

Sig Sauer P228 (good offering): 600€
License (period of validity differs): not more than 80€

[psguy]

Italy: license is about 120 € (70 license + 50 for medical certifications) for 6 years. If you have a license like mine you can have 9 handguns and an unlimited number of rifles (if you want more handguns you'll have to ask for a collectors' license). Private purchase/sale is allowed (I never bought a gun in a gun shop, always second-hand from friends), after you've bought/sold you have to tell it to the police dept of course.
Prices are a bit high on some brands...a sig 226 is about 1200€ (new). On the other hand you can have a glock, cz or sw m&p for about 600€.
Rifles are pricey, for example an ar15 clone costs 2500+ €...and you don't have as many choices as in other countries.
Someone can give details about other european countries??It's interesting..

[psguy]

btw, in Italy we cannot own weapons chambered in 9x19 (we have to use 9x21 rounds), 9x19 is a so-called "war cartridge" and only army and police may use it. We don't have those problems with .223 or .308 rifles etc..

[m.i.t]

any limits on the type of weapons you can own?


only semi-auto pistols and hunting rifles can be owned...


smg s assault rifles mg s are prohibited...

[m.i.t]

Hm thats pretty steep.

A license in BE costs you 65 euro for 5 years. A quality handgun like a Glock can be had for about 600 euro. A round of 9mm fmj is roughly 0,25 euro depending on the brand and quantity of course.

I suggest that you take a look at www.egunn.de (http://www.egunn.de) you could compare prices from Germany, they are pretty much representative for the European market.

I have been told that Turks in general are gun lovers and that seems to get corroborated by the fact that (illegal) guns often show up in the Turkish community in EU.

MIT, can you shed some light on this? Where do they get the stuff if it is in fact very expensive or hard to get in Turkey?

A Turkish friend of mine told me that in the eighties or early ninetees people were publicly hung for illegal weapons posession in Turkey and that the hangings were broadcasted on TV. Could you give details of these occurrings?


since 1957 no public excution...also since 1984 no one executed...since 2000 no capital punishment in Turkish laws..

but in 1980 army made military coup...so some people were hanged for murder crimes...

but no one was public execution...may be you watched executions in iran..

it was not about to poseesion arms...illegal arm posesion hes never been punished with capital punishment...but its still crime...

if your crime is first time no jail...only 2000 usd money penalty...but second time about 1 year jail...

ofcourse it depends type of the gun..heavy guns such as rifles require for jail ...

actually 2 type licences...

1-posesion licence...everbody can get it...but no one carry gun with this licence...you should keep your gun in your home...you can not carry it in the outside..its cheaper ..about 600 usd..but guns are same price...

2--carriying licence...only businessmen can get it...its about 2500 usd for 5 years..in every 5 years you should pay 2500 usd one more time...

offcoure you must have clean crime registers...drug teror such heavy criminals can not get it...

also you can get it bolt action hunting rtifles...their price between 3000-5000 usd...

also l can say Turkish people pure gun maniacs...my close friend had paid 14.000 usd for .308 cal hunting rifle...

its estimated that there are 17 million wepaons which only 800000 registered in Turkey...

in balckmarket a glock is about 2500-3500 usd...

[m.i.t]

so no m16/AKs can be legally owned

no...

....they are heavy gun class..mp5 uzi etc are prohibited too...

[muck]

Licenses can be bought by...

Collectors
Sportsmen
Hunters
(People whose working/living condition requires a weapon for self-defense)

...And no one else.

You'll need a certificate of good conduct, a certificate about technical competence, below age of 25 an additional psychological review is needed, and last but not least, you'll have to convince the authorities a reason why you should be allowed to buy a license. Sportsmen can only buy weapons in the categories they practice shooting.

Except for a small minority of license holders, is it illegal to carry weapons in public.

Guards, security men et cetera can get licenses, too, if their companies have dangerous tasks - someone guarding a bank will rather receive his license than someone who guards a construction site.
Finally, people can get a license if they have evidentially a high risk to become victim of a crime (prosecutors, jewelers or private investigators for example), but these licenses are only rarely handed out.

There are some 4m households in Germany with one or several licenses, I don't know the exact figures but hardly more then 5000 or so persons nationwide who aren't public servants are allowed to carry a weapon in public.

[m.i.t]

USA

Browning Hi-Power list price is about $700 new, Sig's are in the 800-900 range and Beretta 92F's are in a $500... Great variety in used firearms trade so it's possible to find 95%+ firearms for much less than that.

9mm rounds - about 18-20 cents a round, goes lower if you buy bulk or reload your own. Can ship ammo crates straight to your residence or place of work.
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you live in the gun heaven . l love ameriacn freedom concepts...



quote:After having seen the movie "Midnight Express", I'd think twice about doing something that may land me in a Turkish prison! It ain't worth it!!!!!!!

mate...it should be propaganda movie ...also l havent heard jail like seashore holiday hotel...

[lukasss]

Czech Republic

- gun licence (administration fee) = 100 USD (waiting time 1 month)
- gun registration (every gun you bought) = 10 USD (waiting time 14 days)
- Glock 19 = 950 USD
- 9mm luger amunition = 0.20 USD
- CZ 858 Tactical (assault rifle) = 380 USD (standard version no upgrades)
- 7.62x39 amunition = 0.25 USD

Every citizen of Czech Republic with gun licence is allowed to have and carry gun, but only with clean criminal record and withoud any mental alienation.

[m.i.t]

l hate to live in Turkey.all world look like a gun paradise...but here is desert...

[T.H.E. rooster]

You should move to Switzerland. I hear that is the ultimate gun paradise for civies.

[m.i.t]

l hate to live in Turkey ...everywhere is gun paradise...bu here look like desert...:oops:

[James]

In America you are given a gun when you become a citizen.

[California Joe]

In America you are given a gun when you become a citizen.

rofl

Quit it James.

[muck]

In the Uk you have to go through so many checks its mental, most types are banned (hand gun,semi-auto rifle)
Same here, but I don't regard that as bad. Only the length of waiting time sucks like hell.

[tipsovr]

In America you are given a gun when you become a citizen.


Thats not quite true... you have to wait until your 5th birthday (110 years old in CA). ;-)

[m.i.t]

In the Uk you have to go through so many checks its mental, most types are banned (hand gun,semi-auto rifle)


even most of the police units in UK have no sidearm...also l think British people dont like wepaons...

[A.K. for T-7]

In Brazil:

Regular citizens can posses pistols up to .380 Auto and revolvers up to .38 Special. Judges and Prossecutors can have .40 S&W pistols. Police can posses private 9mm, .40S&W and .45 ACP pistols, and .357 Magnum revolvers. Shotguns only with barrels larger than 24 inches. Rifles with barrels larger than 24 inches and up to .44 cal with muzzle energy less than 1,000 Joules. Brazilian army controls the weapons and calibers you can or can't have, and makes the "standardization" of calibers. You pay US$ 30 for a 3 years posses license, US$ 20 for "lunatic detector exam" and US$ 20 for the weapons handling, maintenance and shooting exams, wich are made by the federal police. Carry permit costs US$ 500 for one year.

You can have as many guns you want, in any caliber and of any type (excluding automatic weapons) if you are licensed by the Army as a gun collector, sport shooter or hunter, wich costs US$ 200 each year, including surprise Army inspections in your house to verify the security of the place where you keep your weapons.

One Taurus PT1911 cal .45 ACP costs US$ 1,000 here !

Any weapons that you may import (Glocks, Sigs Berettas) costs its price in USA (where brazilians usually buy them) plus 60% import taxes and US$ 100 for Army import license.

[m.i.t]

actully they were banned after to people went on shooting sprees, there are alot of people in the UK who would like to see sports shooting reintroduced

as for the police alot more are armed then people realise

actually l know...10 years ago l have seen first time an AUG rifles in a british police in BANK disrict central London..there was a big money transfers with armoured trucks...l also could see that mp5 smgs..

every monday or tuesday l could see that transfers.....because my school in oxford street and that place is on the route of my bus number 8 ...

also l know personal arms such as pistols are banned...no one of my friend have gun...

l have never seen any gun dealers in britania...

[Createdeemcee]

One Taurus PT1911 cal .45 ACP costs US$ 1,000 here !



Damn that sucks they are half the price here and they are made in Brazil!

[Paulinski]

most types are banned (hand gun,semi-auto rifle)

That would take care of 99% of my collection. :(

[m.i.t]

mate l had been shocked when l have seen first time heavy armed city police in the BANK ...l thouhgt that tere was a great bank robbery...

because there were at least 20 heavy armed police officiers...

also l had seen glocks first time in the Downing street guards...

but l have never seen armed police except those situations...

some police officiers put the handcuffs on their belts in the holsters like a pistols...alot of aliens suppose that they have sidearms when the see first...

[m.i.t]

Damn that sucks they are half the price here and they are made in Brazil!


mate ...you should know US is the heaven of the guns in the world...

for only firing a machine gun l wanna visit USA...

[A.K. for T-7]

Damn that sucks they are half the price here and they are made in Brazil!

Our Government loves to tax guns, ammo & stuff. We pay over 100% in taxes for guns here... It is actually cheaper to buy any Taurus in USA than in Brazil !!! Our Government loves to see our money flying away from our country...:cantbeli: This happens because our Government listens to the anti-gun idiots that exists everywhere in the world. They say that these taxes would reduce the amount of guns sold every year... Indeed it reduced the number of Brazilian guns sold: I, for example, bought a M9A1 and a Beretta 90-two last month instead of similar Taurus pistols... I also bought Springfield 1911 Tactical, wich is made in Brazil by Imbel...:roll:

[gaijinsamurai]

I lived in Guatemala in the 90's, and again for five months last year, and any law-abiding citizen can apply for and receive a carry permit. Old shotguns and .22 rifles are plentiful, but if a person wants to buy a new handgun, it is very expensive. From what I've seen importation is restricted to Brazilian firearms (Rossi and Taurus), CZs, and a few others.