Specialized soldiers

[Zombie Squad]

Does a Antitank soldier with a e.g. ERYX rocket launcher go along a 6-7 men infantry squad or is he in another specialized squad?

What about a marksman?

[seraosha]

Which Army?

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

Hi zemljak, specialized soldiers are usually integrated within units on company and battalion level.

[Zombie Squad]

US army. So does that mean he operates along with an infantry team if they need him? Is he then taking commands from the infantry officer?

Pozdrav

[seraosha]

There is no longer an 11H MOS. MOS 11H (Heavy Anti-Armor Weapons Infantryman) and MOS 11M (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arjobs/bl11m.htm) (Mechanized Infantryman) have been converged in the MOS 11B (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arjobs/bl11b.htm) (Infantryman). The duties listed below are now part of MOS 11B.
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arjobs/bl11h.htm

[Zombie Squad]

Just found this:


Designated marksmen are integral members of regular infantry squads or platoons, much like machine-gunners or grenadiers.

[lt tahoe]

Designated marksmen are not missiliers, either.

The typical infantryman is capable of using several different AT weapons, and so there would not likely be a separate (non-infantry) anti-tank detachment with an infantry squad/platoon.

[Zombie Squad]

Designated marksmen are not missiliers, either.

The typical infantryman is capable of using several different AT weapons, and so there would not likely be a separate (non-infantry) anti-tank detachment with an infantry squad/platoon.


(1) Skill Level 1. Assaults and destroys enemy tanks and armor vehicles, emplacements, weapons, and personnel with heavy anti- armor weapons. Employs, fires, and recovers antipersonnel and anti tank mines. Locates and neutralizes mines. Operates, mounts/dismounts, zeroes and engages targets with night vision sight. Performs self extraction from a mine field. Orients a map. Operates and maintains communications equipment and enter a radio net. Operates in an NBC contaminated area. Constructs and camouflages individual/crew served weapons firing positions. Recognizes friendly and threat armored vehicles. Constructs and camouflages dismounted fighting positions.According to that it sound like they operate in a Combat MECH squad.

Mechanized infantry are infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry) equipped with armored personnel carriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_personnel_carrier) (APCs), or infantry fighting vehicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_fighting_vehicle) (IFVs) for transport and combat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat) (see also mechanized force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanized_force)).
Mechanized infantry are distinguished from motorized infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorized_infantry), who are transported to battle by trucks or motor vehicles, in that their vehicles provide a degree of protection from hostile fire, as opposed to "soft-skinned" wheeled vehicles (trucks or jeeps). Most APCs and IFVs are fully tracked, or are all-wheel drive vehicles (6×6 or 8×8), for mobility across rough ground. The support weapons for mechanized infantry are also provided with motorized transport, or are built directly into combat vehicles, in order to keep pace with the mechanized infantry in combat. For units equipped with most types of APC or any type of IFV, fire support weapons such as machine guns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun), autocannons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocannon), small-bore direct-fire howitzers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howitzers), and even anti-tank guided missiles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_guided_missile) are often mounted directly on the infantry's own transport vehicles.

[seraosha]

Past tense. There are no more 11H's, they have been re-classed to 11B's.
Which probably pissed them off, as I remember them telling us 19D's that "T.O.W." really stood for "Tired Of Walking", and not a Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided missile.

But I can't remember them ever carrying a ERYX.

[Firefly26]

You should retitle this topic, "Who uses the Javelin in the Infantry in the US Army?" The thread is likely not getting looked at by the right people due to the title. The 11H went away with the adoption of the Javelin. I would expect Javelins to be used by whoever in the squad has had the most training or is the best with them, whenever the squad happens to have a launcher with them, usually dependent on the mission; much like the AT-4 or the Dragon back in the day.

[Zombie Squad]

Are you saying 11H was a MECH INF?

[Laconian]

Are you saying 11H was a MECH INF?
It was both mech and light.
Way back when 11H in US Mech Land operated out of the M901 Improved TOW Vehicle - which IMHO as a former TOW Co. PL/XO/CO - was a piece of crap. Although, primarily designed to fight mounted, it was not uncommon for us to dismount the TOW and use it off the tripod.

In light/ABN/AA units 11H worked off of M151s then HMMVs.

At that same time (mid '80s) the Mech BN consisted of 4 rifle cos (A-D) and an AT Co (E) + HHC. Each rifle co. had a TOW section (ITV) organic to it. In my division (5th ID), these assets were pulled from the line cos. and the 1st PLT in in the AT Co. was a "super-sized" AT platoon. The scout platoon (HHC) also kept its organic ITVs, but they were manned by 19D, not 11H.

In this way, the Bn CO could mass his AT fires and apply AT assets throughout the BN sector. The super-sized AT platoon especially was used for a variety of missions, including supplementing the scouts or farming it out to a AR BN - it was a good gig and I enjoyed it. It also consolidated the maintenance headache that was the ITV for the AT CO XO, which sucked.

[11B101ABN]

It was both mech and light.
Way back when 11H in US Mech Land operated out of the M901 Improved TOW Vehicle - which IMHO as a former TOW Co. PL/XO/CO - was a piece of crap. Although, primarily designed to fight mounted, it was not uncommon for us to dismount the TOW and use it off the tripod.

In light/ABN/AA units 11H worked off of M151s then HMMVs.

At that same time (mid '80s) the Mech BN consisted of 4 rifle cos (A-D) and an AT Co (E) + HHC. Each rifle co. had a TOW section (ITV) organic to it. In my division (5th ID), these assets were pulled from the line cos. and the 1st PLT in in the AT Co. was a "super-sized" AT platoon. The scout platoon (HHC) also kept its organic ITVs, but they were manned by 19D, not 11H.

In this way, the Bn CO could mass his AT fires and apply AT assets throughout the BN sector. The super-sized AT platoon especially was used for a variety of missions, including supplementing the scouts or farming it out to a AR BN - it was a good gig and I enjoyed it. It also consolidated the maintenance headache that was the ITV for the AT CO XO, which sucked.

Spot on, Sir.

Toward the end of the 11H era, most anti-armor companies had been "converted" into more of a waepons company concept, at least in the 101st.

We had theTOW2, MK19, M2 HB, and an assortment of other crew served weapons for our trucks.

I became an 11M and then susequently an 11B after that.

While with the 3ID in the FRG, I went to PLDC and upon me return to my unit, found out that it had been de-activated. I had no unit. I found a PSG from my old company who was the PSG for the BN SPT PLT and got into that for a couple of years befor reporting to the 101st.