Wanted HK53 in British Military service photos

[Va_Dinger]

I'm looking for pictures of British Military personal eqiuped with the HK53 carbine. Its a long shot, but what better place to ask? I need these for a future project. Thanks any one who can help.

[Piccolo]

There is one of a Royal Marine under the Operation Enduring Freedom/UK gallery. You can't get a clear view of the rifle (Troop in question's back is to camera), but the four brong muzzle break of the 53 is pretty distinctive and can be Id-ed.

[DeltaWhisky58]

http://www.onesixthcollectors.co.uk/hosting/robw/brig-cpr.jpg

I hope this is what you want.

Close protection provided by the Royal Marine Police Troop for Brig. Jim Sutton, OC 3 Cdo. Brigade, Basra, April 2003.

This is cropped - the full pic can be found in the Op. Telic website on http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/index.htm where you'll find two guys with HK-53s.

You could also try the book "One Up" by Sarah Ford - there are 14 Int. Coy N.I. pix of the HK-53 in it.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Allied_United_Kingdom/d_rmc02.jpg

RM in Afg. with HK53 - plenty arguement about this in the Op. Enduring Freedom Gallery.

[Gringo]

I've also seen a pic in an Army magazine of a Brit' Close Protection Unit (CPU) armed with HK53s w/ holosights mounted on them.

[Royal]

I'm still pretty sure that the guy in front of the Chinook is an RAF Loadie, and he's carrying an MP5 (standard for rotary aircrew) not a '53...

[DeltaWhisky58]

Royal.........................

You could well be right there, I was just posting what I assumed to be the pic that Piccolo mentioned.

However..............if he was an RAF loadie, he would be wearing an aircrew helmet, surely? Plus he's wearing RM shoulder titles and a Bergen! So, he's probably a bootneck, so if it's an MP-5 why's he carrying it out in the boonies?

Puzzled......................

[Royal]

DW58 - Missed the shoulder titles!!! He's definitely a Royal.

As for the the helmet & Patrol Pack (not bergan). Loadies often just wear headsets inside the aircraft & and a Mk 6 offers more ballistic protection on the ground. He's carring a patrol pack not a bergan - could have anything from a flask and sarnies to wet proofs and warm gear in it.

He could be an aircrewman from 847 Sqn (what was the Bde Air Sqn) or even 845/846 Sqn attached to the RAF.

Then again, I could be wrong, and it could be a HK53...

[DeltaWhisky58]

Royal

Yes, I see your point. When I was in the RAF - 1980s - there was much more distinction over what aircrew wore - support helo crews wore their own pattern of DPMs and always wore aircrew helmets. Yes, I see your point about him wanting more protection outside the aircraft, however in my own experience loadies always stay connected to the helo's intercom.

As for the guys weapon..........well, as we both agree, could be an MP5, could be an HK53........guess we're never going to know without a time machine or an eye witness.

I think I can say with certainty that the Basra pic is 100% confirmed HK53 - sensible guy - look after the boss with something reliable. Looks like he's got two mags clipped together. The other guy in the original picture from the Op. Telic website is also carrying an HK53.

[He219]

Royal and DW58:

The gun in the last picture is an HK53 due to it's destinct four ****g flash hider, standard on that model. "It does much more to suppress the flash from this short barreled weapon than did the more standard flash hider seen on the 33 and G3." from
HKPro.com (http://hkpro.com/hk53.htm)

Great posting!

p-)
He219

[DeltaWhisky58]

He219

Point taken, however..........the four-****g G-36 style flash supressor is only found on late-model Hk53s - the ones being carried in the Close Protection pic above are not of this type - I have this pic in high-res and have blown it right up, these guys have the more conventional supressors on their weapons.

[He219]

DW58, only the G36K&C versions use the four ****g flash hider. The G36 uses the 'Birdcage' .

The G36C flash hider:
http://hkpro.com/image/g36cmuzzle.jpg

The G36K flash hider:
http://hkpro.com/image/g36k.jpg

The G36 standard flash hider:
http://hkpro.com/image/G36RIFLE.jpg


As for the HK53 flash hider:

The now standard four ****g flash hider:
http://hkpro.com/image/HK53A3left.jpg

'Older' HK53 'Birdcage' flash supressor version as seen on the HK33's
http://hkpro.com/image/hk33ESA3.jpg

Compared to the G3KA4 flash supressors:
http://hkpro.com/image/g3ka4.jpg

The following Pic is of the Muzzle Progression on the MP5:
http://hkpro.com/mp5muzzles.jpg

The flash hider on the OICW:
http://hkpro.com/oicwmuzzle.jpg


On second thought that is a 'Birdcage' flash hider in both pics you posted! :oops:
Definately early model HK53 weapons in both!


;)
He219

[DeltaWhisky58]

Cripes He219, you've cleared out the HK-Pro website!

THe thing I'm really keen to see are British SF troops using the G-36 which was field trialled successfully in Afg. Not sure which version, but my money would be on the G-36k, I suppose pix will filter out eventually, but you know how shy our SAS/SBS guys are, and quite rightly. Eventually i'd like to see all of our forces armed with the G-36 as they should have been rather than update the SA80, but that's another discussion.............

[Gringo]

On the BBC news tonight there was a story about Jack Straw going to Iraq and going from place to place in a Blackhawk helicopter, and I spotted a HK53 w/ holosight being used by a CPU wearing civvies. I don't ask me if they were SAS, Delta or whatever unit u think.

Just wondering, is the CPU a part of the Royal Military Police?

[Piccolo]

Just to add, the photo Delta posted is the same in which I told of earlier. It can be clearly seen as a HK53, through the large cocking handle visible in the picture. The small knob like charging handle of the MP5 is not on the weapon in question, but rather the larger kind ala the G3/HK33 series.

[CX20]

It's not just the British military who use the HK53, our civilian police forces use it too. Here are two of the lads from my force; (apologies for the big pic)

http://members.aol.com:/hungrymick/private/888.jpg[/url]

Also with regards to holosights do you mean like this; (don't know which unit he belongs to but he appears to be British)

http://www.gun-world.net/H&K/hk53/ausas.jpg

The HK53 is also used by units of the Royal Air Force Police, notably the P&SS Close Protection Teams and the Air Transport Security Teams.

I have carried the HK53 and can personally attest to its reliability and overall excellent performance.

[Piccolo]

Actually, that is a Trijicon Reflex sight, CX. The 'Holosight' in question is the shortened name used for the Eotech/Bushnell Holographic weapon sight.

http://www.eotech-inc.com/tactical/mainframe.html

[Royal]

Just wondering, is the CPU a part of the Royal Military Police?

Most CP work for the UK military and the FCO (Foreign & Commonwealth Office) is done by RMP CP teams.

The RN/RM and RAF Provo/Police also have a limited capability (as I believe do the MoD Police - someone correct me if I'm wrong on this). UKSF maintain this skill (they handled it for a time before the RMP took over), although they are rarely used in this role.

[CX20]

Yes Royal you are right, the MDP do still have CP teams. Not sure what capacity they are used in though. Each Home Office police force is also required to maintain a CP team, although each force has different policies on which department provides the team, e.g. TFU, OSU or SB.

Don't know about the RN/M Police but the RAF Police have a significant CP capability - I know this for a fact through personal experience! They are equally well trained and equipped, but the RMP have the wider reputation and therefore are used more.

I remember reading in Chris Ryan's book "The One That Got Away" about the him being involved in CP work in Africa. After the Bravo 20 experience, they asked for GPMGs and other heavy kit, but were told they could only take their longs and ops vests! I'm sure there's a picture of him and his mates on the CP job in t-shirts and shorts with DPM assault vests and HK53s.

[Gringo]

I remember reading in Chris Ryan's book "The One That Got Away" about the him being involved in CP work in Africa. After the Bravo 20 experience, they asked for GPMGs and other heavy kit, but were told they could only take their longs and ops vests! I'm sure there's a picture of him and his mates on the CP job in t-shirts and shorts with DPM assault vests and HK53s.

I think they were armed with MP5s not HK53s.


CX20 and Piccolo, yep that's the holosight I was reffering to.

And thankyou Royal for answering my question about the CPUs in the RMP.[/quote]

[Gringo]

On the BBC news tonight there was a story about Jack Straw going to Iraq and going from place to place in a Blackhawk helicopter, and I spotted a HK53 w/ holosight being used by a CPU wearing civvies. I don't ask me if they were SAS, Delta or whatever unit u think.

Someone has posted pics up of the visit on this thread. U can clearly see a HK53 and MP5K in those pics.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2385

[He219]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=364863

Yeah, I guess that could be an HK53 with Reflex sight given the large mag width......

[marktigger]

saw RMP cp team with 53's with reflex sights in faact have a pic of me with one and a video of a mate playiing with it to.

The operaters aslo had the choice of the MP5k saw one with a pdw folding stock. and the G3K side arms were sig p229

[wholagun]

Flash Hider...I guess I should post a whole differnt topic about this, but, what exactly is a flash stopper and how does it work, and does anyone have any pics of how it stops the flash. Sorry bit off topic ;)

[Royal]

side arms were sig p229

Seems that the CP teams have a wide range of sidearms to choose from, over the past couple of years I've seen; the good ol' BHP, Glock 17's & Sig 226's...

[marktigger]

From what I've been told by the redcap community they appear to to have standardised on the SIG had heard about the Glock being trialed and the good old Browning was the daddy of them all










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[Corinthian]

Any new photos of HK53?

[Argyll]

you resurected a 3 year old thread to ask this?

[Yarrick2]

argyll i ask you this why not?p-)

[Corinthian]

sorry Argyll missed it the first time around and have seen some good photos recently.
i didn't realise there was a time frame on old posts,it just turned up in a search.

[militarycop]

I'm looking for pictures of British Military personal eqiuped with the HK53 carbine. Its a long shot, but what better place to ask? I need these for a future project. Thanks any one who can help.




YOU STILL LOOKING FOR 53 PICS? I HAVE LOSADS,

[Corinthian]

can you post them?

[Swedish Chef]

can you post them?
Please do, pretty please, with sugar on top. :)

[General Zod]

YOU STILL LOOKING FOR 53 PICS? I HAVE LOSADS,

Yeah, please post!

[Ravage]

Give that man a stuffed Giraffe p-)

[militarycop]

Hope They Are Ok

[DeltaWhisky58]

Hope They Are Ok

Loads does not = 2 pix ... ... where are the rest?

[Resurrection]

Cool pics militarycop!

[militarycop]

I Will Post More Tomz Need To Edit Face

[militarycop]

Hope these pics are ok for you lot of keen HK53 lovers

On the 53 is a 4 x mag scope as i prefer this type of re dot scope, a lot of guys use the holo point (very good also)

a previous post about secondry weapons, most of the teams have the option of there sidearm i prefer the sig as its very reliabe.

[Arty]

Why the preference of the HK 53 over say a M4?

Lots of countries use MP5s but instead prefer the M4 over the 53.

[Xlimit]

Are those guys airsoft?

[Royal]

Are those guys airsoft?

Look like it to me...

[maple.leaf]

Are those guys airsoft?

Can't be - nobody makes an airsoft HK53, and the custom jobs that people have made themselves all use a "solid" stock rather than the collapsible one (becuase you need somewhere to store the battery).

Going back to the thread theme: I saw some photos some months ago of Prince Charles visiting the troops in A'stan - his CP team were also all armed with HK53s.

[militarycop]

the pictures above are the real deal ladz, you wont find hk 53 pics around notice the uniform as well does that not give it away

[militarycop]

a couple more pics

[zealot]

Can't be - nobody makes an airsoft HK53, and the custom jobs that people have made themselves all use a "solid" stock rather than the collapsible one (becuase you need somewhere to store the battery).

Going back to the thread theme: I saw some photos some months ago of Prince Charles visiting the troops in A'stan - his CP team were also all armed with HK53s.

i'd say it's a weapon of choice as far as British VIP CP goes, with an occassional but not as common M4(commando?) ...

http://cache.*****images.com/xc/51885129.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=AE5E3E7DB8E3141781CBB334AF4ADE85
http://cache.*****images.com/xc/51885140.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=AE5E3E7DB8E3141761AE9F237101269A


...& thnx for the photos militarycop, perhaps you should cover/blur your face better,,but will leave that to mods....

[militarycop]

Nice pics mate.

i would that the M4 is a very nice weapon, having fired it and had some use of it, when in iraq the cpat boys from dyncorp carried them and we got to havbe a play and they where very nice weapons.

i actually prefer the HK 53 as it is a very reliabe weapon havent ever had a stoppage etc, they well out rank the SA80 a2 and would take one anywhere.

my pic editing isnt that good but thanksd will have another go

[General Zod]

Got 'em in high-res? Can't really see the weapons very well.

[dave law]

the pictures above are the real deal ladz, you wont find hk 53 pics around notice the uniform as well does that not give it away

real hk53 dosnt have such a large gap between the forgrip and magwell

would you be the same militarycop thats on UKAN and recently had a custom hk53 made

[maple.leaf]

real hk53 dosnt have such a large gap between the forgrip and magwell

would you be the same militarycop thats on UKAN and recently had a custom hk53 made

Now that you mention it, I took a closer look at the photos. that does look suspiciously like an MP5 front end....

[FozzieBear]

Now that you mention it, I took a closer look at the photos. that does look suspiciously like an MP5 front end....
wrong stock aswell, most of the british HK53's ive seen have mp5 style stocks not g3

[dave law]

http://forums.ukairsoft.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87253

UKAN link

[DeltaWhisky58]

Here's a real one in both respects ... ...

http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Produkte_Slideshow/mp5_a3_02.jpg
H&K MP5A3

http://www.hkpro.com/image/HK53A3left.jpg
H&K HK53

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/DSC00910.jpg

Airsoft conversion HK33/MP5/MC51 hybrid

[Beowulf]

awwww **** son

[ibstolidude]

awwww **** son
Rick James!!

[Royal]

awwww **** son

rofl rofl rofl

[playtym]

Its in a book a four man team i'll dig it out and scan it ASAP it think its called the shooting gallery

Yup, 'The Shooting Gallery' by Gaz Hunter - on page 247 - I'm sitting with it in my hand but don't have a scanner, and my digital camera keeps on blurring the image. :-(

[maple.leaf]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/DSC00910.jpg

Airsoft conversion HK33/MP5/MC51 hybrid

Yes - its obvious now that I can see the mag well too. Still, until Classic Army or somebody produces an off-the-shelf one, this one looks pretty damn good.

[Swedish Chef]

real hk53 dosnt have such a large gap between the forgrip and magwell

Real HK53s with a Surefire 628/629 forend would have that gap as Surefire never made a forend for the '53, they were designed for the MP5 but work just as well on the '53.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Granted it looks good - but it's still an airsoft toy which militarycop has tried to pass of as the real deal.

[playtym]

Finally got a semi decent one!

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6043/dsc016796uo.jpg

[maple.leaf]

Granted it looks good - but it's still an airsoft toy which militarycop has tried to pass of as the real deal.

Yes indeed.

[zealot]

i am so gullible.. damn airsofters.... @militarycop why??

[flanker7]

Finally got a semi decent one!

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6043/dsc016796uo.jpg

Does it says "Chris Ryan in the shades"?

Like the B20 guy?

[Dave76]

Yep.

"Chris Ryan" and "Gaz Hunter" worked together on a few jobs. If I remember correctly they were both in B squadron. The pic should be from a team job in Zaire. Pick up Hunter's "The Shooting Gallery".

[flanker7]

Thanks Dave:)

[Swedish Chef]

Thank you very much, playtym! woot

[FozzieBear]

my airsoft hk53 looks better than his, it has an accurate 'navy style' (dunno propper name) lower, a 53 birdcage flashider and soon to be a mp5 stock and no crappy holosight ;);)

[EsoognomEhT]

Militarycop, uber walt of the highest order!

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=71563/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html

[DeltaWhisky58]

I'd say that one was busted - yes?

[DeltaWhisky58]

wasn't he binned from here by you DW

To be honest I can't remember.


Granted it looks good - but it's still an airsoft toy which militarycop has tried to pass of as the real deal.

But there again, looking up to the top of the page, it would look that way. See, I've saved you guys from the ravages of Waltdon again! woot

[uk35]

Female 14 Intelligence Company / 'Det' operative - Northern Ireland - armed with HK53, shown next to Army Gazelle helicopter used for aerial surveillance. Will post more Det with HK53s when I get my borrowed scanner back.

[uk35]

some more UK military hk53s

1st is SBS in East Timor, 1999. The rest are most likely various close protection units.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Militarycop, uber walt of the highest order!

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=71563/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html

Hell's teeth - I've just finished trawling through that thread - quite a mega-walt outing.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Yes, quite incredible. 34 pages was heavy going.

[Beer Monster]

Ok here is a random one:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/beer_monster/expo3.jpg

On the Basra firing range with the Royal Marines Close Protection Team

BBC Newsreader Darren Jordon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Jordon) (shortly to move to Al Jazeera), visits Royal Marines in Iraq (link (http://www.jdfmil.org/info/releases/2006/apr3.htm) to article). He was Captain in the Jamican Defense Force.

[DeltaWhisky58]

OK guys. Please remember that the topic of this thread is HK53s in British service and not Great Walts what I have known, or Walts who have Walted as HK53-toting heroes.

[brickie501]

He could be an aircrewman from 847 Sqn (what was the Bde Air Sqn) or even 845/846 Sqn attached to the RAF.

Don't think anyone has mentioned aircrew in NI used to carry HK53s (not sure if they still do). Don't have any pictures of the weapons (does anyone?) but I might have some of the stowage mounts that attached to aircraft seats (won't use bandwidth unless anyone's interested!)

brickie

[Beer Monster]

Don't think anyone has mentioned aircrew in NI used to carry HK53s (not sure if they still do). Don't have any pictures of the weapons (does anyone?) but I might have some of the stowage mounts that attached to aircraft seats (won't use bandwidth unless anyone's interested!)

brickie

Aye true. I made reference to it a while back in this thread which also has quite a few HK53 photos on it. British soldier with HK53 in NI. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63910&page=2)

[DeltaWhisky58]

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/uploads/forums/walt1_642.jpg

25 July 2007

EBAY HERO IS A FAKE

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror/mar2003/8/4/0004DB9B-CB8E-1E7F-89CC80BFB6FA0000.jpg

EXCLUSIVE Conman claims Iraq battle honours to flog uniforms on internet
By Lachlan Mackinnon


A CONMAN part-time soldier has enraged Army veterans by selling bogus uniforms and medals on eBay.


Disgraced Maurice Mennie, 29, claimed he was a military policeman - and that he wore the uniform he was selling at the funeral of a comrade who fell in Iraq.


He also claimed he'd won one of the medals he was selling in Iraq, adding: "Blood and sweat on this one".


The Territorial Army soldier did serve in Iraq. But last night he admitted the eBay hoax - and confessed he dreamt it all up just to make easy money.
The 29-year-old outraged Army veterans by falsely claiming he was a military policeman - and selling "his" uniform on auction site eBay.
He had the nerve to claim he'd last worn it at the funeral of a colleague who fell in Iraq.


And he also claimed one of the medals he was selling had been won by him in Iraq, adding: "Blood and sweat on this one."


Mennie, of Cumbernauld, near Glasgow, has now admitted the hoax - and confessed he dreamt it all up simply to raise cash.


He did, however, serve a tour of duty in Iraq with the Territorial Army.


Last night, shamed Mennie said: "I beefed my story up to make it sound better so that I would get a high bid. It was stupid.


"But 99.9 percent of stuff on eBay is false - it's SAS this and SAS that."


But online, he brazenly insisted he'd broken no laws because he said he HAD worn the Redcaps uniform... in his house.


In his adverts, the former Inland Revenue employee claimed:


HE was a security advisor in Iraq for private firm. He wasn't.


TO have earned his paratrooper wings. He didn't.


TO have been a military adviser to a film. He wasn't.


TO have served a tour in Bosnia. He didn't.


In reality, Mennie is a sales assistant who goes paintballing with his pals at the disused Winston Barracks in Lanark.


He calls himself The Analizer when he's playing the game with his mates


He has been a private in the Territorial Army for seven years and was on active duty as an infantryman with the 7th Royal Regiment of Scotland in Iraq for six months from October 2004.


He was seconded to the 1st Welsh Guards, based at Camp Abu Naji, who were carrying out peacekeeping duties in Al Amarah.


He claims he suffered a knee injury in Iraq. But that's where Mennie's genuine military career ends and the fantasy begins.


Mennie pumped up his self-image by buying militaria on the internet and then passing it off as stuff he'd been issued with.


He admitted: "I was given the stuff over the years and kept in the shed.


"I know people who collect military memorabilia and they gave me the jacket and medals.


"The medals aren't even real - they're replacement ones. I was hoping to get £500 for the uniform but I wish I hadn't bothered."


Mennie has been a regular on eBay in recent months.


On April 10, he sold an "inert Claymore mine" made of plastic and wood for £50. In his advert, he claimed he got it from a film set.


On June 29, he bagged £10 for a "desert ops vest" which he insisted was "pukka kit". On the same day, he netted £25 for a "Close Protection" Army vest.


In the eBay advert for the RMP uniform, Mennie wrote: "This is my full No2 dress uniform as issued to me by the British Army.


"This uniform hasn't been worn by myself since last year when I had a military funeral to attend as an RMP was killed on Op Telic."


But eventually, he was rumbled by REAL veterans who smelled a rat.


And it was Mennie's boasts about his impressive haul of medals that provoked most fury .


He lied about earning medals for serving in Northern Ireland, the Queen's Golden Jubilee, Operation Telic 2 in Iraq - where he claimed there was "blood and sweat on this one" - and from the UN for operations in Bosnia, adding: "This wasn't the hardest tour but still had its moments."


The package, which was put up for grabs five weeks ago, also included trousers and a peaked cap.


Within a week, suspicious soldiers bombarded him with fake bids of up to £20,000, forcing him to cancel the auction.


And they started a lengthy thread on military chat website - the Army Rumour Service.


Most of the messages - many of which were unsuitable for a family newspaper - revealed utter disgust at Mennie's lies.


They branded him a "Walt" - the Army nickname for a Walter Mitty-style fantasist.


One read: "I do hope this scumbubble gets what is surely coming to him. This t**t went too far with the claim of attending a military funeral."


One serving member of the Royal Military Police blasted: "You are a disgrace and trying to make money by claiming you last wore medals at the funeral of an RMP is unforgivable."


Another said: "I did 13 years in RMP and people like you get my goat.


"How you can ever stoop so low to sell such items is below me."


And another soldier said: "I am proud to be a TA soldier and and ex-regular. I am honoured to be a Scot but now I can only feel shame that one of my own has behaved in such an underhanded and despicable manner."


Mennie eventually hit back on the site, insisting: "I have in no way broke any laws in this as I have worn the kit in my house.


"I have military service, whether it only being TA who really gives a f*** - it is service I have done and have been to Iraq.


"As for the eBay site, OK I do apologise. I beefed it up a bit. I'm sincere in my apologies concerning that."


Speaking from his terraced house in Cumbernauld, which he shares with his brown mongrel dog, defiant Mennie hit out at the people who posted intimidating messages about him on the internet.


He said: "Folk have been threatening to come round and beat me up. I say bring it on, they can come up and try.


"I went to my local police office and told them the whole story but they said a lot of people do what I did and that I wasn't to worry too much.


"I am not the Walter Mitty people are making me out to be.


"It's not like I've been masquerading as someone else at functions and memorial events.


"I chose to serve my country, it's not as if I'm going round saying I won the Victoria Cross or was a hero in the Falklands."


Maurice added: "I apologise to all concerned - especially the families of the actual victims who have fallen in Iraq."


Last night, an Army spokeswoman said: "We totally condemn his actions. He lets himself and his former colleagues down.


"This man's actions will deeply offend the emotional well-being of families who have made real sacrifices.


"He is a total insult to them and the Army."


Neil Griffiths, of the Royal British Legion Scotland, said: "We are dealing with another Walter Mitty here.


"All this about the funeral is demeaning the lives of soldiers and their families.


"The Territorial Army is well rid of this man. He is out for vanity and profit."


'How you can ever stoop so low to sell such items is beyond me'


The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_headline=ebay-hero-is-a-fake%26method=full%26objectid=19515110%26siteid=66633-name_page.html)


[DW58] Militarycop/RMPCop flies undone! rofl

[DeltaWhisky58]

I BEEFED UP MY STORY TO MAKE IT SOUND BETTER SO I'D GET A HIGHER BID

EXCLUSIVE CONMAN ADMITS LYING ABOUT DEAD COMRADE TO SELL ARMY UNIFORM ON EBAY
By Lachlan Mackinnon


SHAMED Army uniform conman Maurice Mennie admitted last night: "I beefed up my story so I would get higher bids."
The 29-year-old outraged Army veterans by falsely claiming he was a military policeman - and selling "his" uniform on auction site eBay.
He had the nerve to claim he'd last worn it at the funeral of a colleague who fell in Iraq.
And he also claimed one of the medals he was selling had been won by him in Iraq, adding: "Blood and sweat on this one."
Mennie, of Cumbernauld, near Glasgow, has now admitted the hoax - and confessed he dreamt it all up simply to raise cash.
He did, however, serve a tour of duty in Iraq with the Territorial Army.


Last night, shamed Mennie said: "I beefed my story up to make it sound better so that I would get a high bid. It was stupid.


"But 99.9 percent of stuff on eBay is false - it's SAS this and SAS that."


But online, he brazenly insisted he'd broken no laws because he said he HAD worn the Redcaps uniform... in his house.


In his adverts, the former Inland Revenue employee claimed:


HE was a security adviser in Iraq for private firm. He wasn't.


TO have earned his paratrooper wings. He didn't.


TO have been a military adviser to a film. He wasn't.


TO have served a tour in Bosnia. He didn't.


In reality, Mennie is a sales assistant who goes paintballing with his pals at the disused Winston Barracks in Lanark.


He calls himself The Analyser when he's playing the game with his mates


He has been a private in the Territorial Army for seven years and was on active duty as an infantry man with the 7th Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland in Iraq for six months from October 2004.


He was seconded to the 1st Welsh Guards, based at Camp Abu Naji, who were carrying out peacekeeping duties in Al Amarah.


He claims he suffered a knee injury in Iraq. But that's where Mennie's genuine military career ends and the fantasy begins.


Mennie pumped up his self-image by buying militaria on the internet and then passing it off as stuff he'd been issued with.


He admitted: "I was given the stuff over the years and kept it in the shed.


"I know people who collect military memorabilia and they gave me the jacket and medals.


"The medals aren't even real - they're replacement ones. I was hoping to get £500 for the uniform but I wish I hadn't bothered."


Mennie has been a regular on eBay in recent months.


On April 10, he sold an "inert Claymore mine" made of plastic and wood for £50. In his advert, he claimed he got it from a film set.


On June 29, he bagged £10 for a "desert ops vest" which he insisted was "pukka kit". On the same day, he netted £25 for a "Close Protection" Army vest.


In the eBay advert for the RMP uniform, Mennie wrote: "This is my full No2 dress uniform as issued to me by the British Army.


"This uniform hasn't been worn by myself since last year when I had a military funeral to attend as an RMP was killed on Op Telic."


But eventually, he was rumbled by real veterans who smelled a rat.


And it was Mennie's boasts about his impressive haul of medals that provoked most fury .


He lied about earning medals for serving in Northern Ireland, the Queen's Golden Jubilee, Operation Telic 2 in Iraq - where he claimed there was "blood and sweat on this one" - and from the UN for operations in Bosnia, adding: "This wasn't the hardest tour but still had its moments."


The package, which was put up for grabs five weeks ago, also included trousers and a peaked cap.


Within a week, suspicious soldiers bombarded him with fake bids of up to £20,000, forcing him to cancel the auction.


And they started a lengthy thread on military chat website - the Army Rumour Service.


Most of the messages - many of which were unsuitable for a family newspaper - revealed utter disgust at Mennie's lies.


They branded him a "Walt" - the Army nickname for a Walter Mitty-style fantasist.


One read: "I do hope this scumbubble gets what is surely coming to him. This t**t went too far with the claim of attending a military funeral."


One serving member of the Royal Military Police blasted: "You are a disgrace and trying to make money by claiming you last wore medals at the funeral of an RMP is unforgivable."


Another said: "I did 13 years in RMP and people like you get my goat.


"How you can ever stoop so low to sell such items is below me."


And another soldier said: "I am proud to be a TA soldier and an ex-regular. I am honoured to be a Scot but now I can only feel shame that one of my own has behaved in such an underhanded and despicable manner."


Mennie eventually hit back on the site, insisting: "I have in no way broke any laws in this as I have worn the kit in my house.


"I have military service, whether it only being TA who really gives a f*** - it is service I have done and have been to Iraq.


"As for the eBay site, OK I do apologise. I beefed it up a bit. I'm sincere in my apologies concerning that."


Speaking from his terraced house in Cumbernauld, which he shares with his brown mongrel dog, defiant Mennie hit out at the people who posted intimidating messages about him on the internet.


He said: "Folk have been threatening to come round and beat me up. I say bring it on, they can come up and try.


"I went to my local police office and told them the whole story but they said a lot of people do what I did and that I wasn't to worry too much.


"I am not the Walter Mitty people are making me out to be.


"It's not like I've been masquerading as someone else at functions and memorial events.


"I chose to serve my country, it's not as if I'm going round saying I won the Victoria Cross or was a hero in the Falklands."


Maurice added: "I apologise to all concerned - especially the families of the actual victims who have fallen in Iraq."


Last night, an Army spokeswoman said: "We totally condemn his actions. He lets himself and his former colleagues down.


"This man's actions will deeply offend the emotional well-being of families who have made real sacrifices.


"He is a total insult to them and the Army."


Neil Griffiths, of the Royal British Legion Scotland, said: "We are dealing with another Walter Mitty here.


"All this about the funeral is demeaning the lives of soldiers and their families.


"The Territorial Army is well rid of this man. He is out for vanity and profit."


'How you can ever stoop so low to sell such items is beyond me'


The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full%26objectID=19515825%26siteID=66633-name_page.html)

[DeltaWhisky58]

INSULT TO MURDERED REDCAPS


MENNIE has been accused of disgracing the memory of six Redcaps gunned down in Iraq.


The Royal Military policemen were murdered in the south of the country on June 24, 2003 by a 400-strong mob.
The atrocity happened in the town of Al Majar Al Kabir, near Basra.

Two of the men were killed in a firefight after a routine patrol turned to chaos.

And four of their comrades were chased into the police station where they were cruelly executed - probably with their own handguns - by the frenzied crowd.

It happened just days before the men were due to fly home to their base in Colchester, Essex.


The six Redcaps killed were Sgt Simon Hamilton-Jewell, 41, Cpl Russell Aston, 30, Cpl Paul Long, 24, L/Cpl Benjamin McGowan Hyde, 23, L/Cpl Tom Keys, 20, and Cpl Simon Miller, 21


The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full%26objectID=19515428%26siteID=66633-name_page.html)

[DeltaWhisky58]

Record View: Throw book at chancers


DEVIOUS Jock Irvine and Maurice Mennie are not just a couple of chancers. Their actions go well beyond that of the opportunistic rogue.


Irvine preyed on the naivety of an immigrant to scare her into having *** with him.
When police revealed 63-year-old Irvine's deception, the woman became suicidal.

Irvine deserves everything he gets and, regardless of his age, we hope the judge throws the book at him when he is sentenced next month.

Mennie has also acted despicably, touting a bogus uniform to make money on internet auction site eBay.
He claimed he had worn the military policeman's uniform to the funeral of a fallen comrade.


Given that six policemen were killed in action in one of the military's biggest losses of life of the current conflict, Mennie is guilty of an extreme lack of sensitivity.


And as a TA soldier who actually did serve in Iraq, Mennie should have known his duplicity would provoke a furious response from others in the armed forces.


We understand the resentment that Mennie's money-grabbing and crass behaviour has caused.


When the Record cornered Mennie, he seemed prepared for retribution, saying: "If anyone thinks I'm fair game, bring it on."


Yes, Mr Mennie ..you are a some hero!


The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/recordview/tm_method=full%26objectID=19514958%26siteID=66633-name_page.html)

[maple.leaf]

What a couple of ****heads. Sure, lots of dubious sellers on eBay "beef up" their adverts with SAS this and Special Forces that - but they don't go so far as to claim false service records - and that doesn't make it okay for them to do so either.
:bash:

[DeltaWhisky58]

I'd forgotten all about this guy until yesterday, but he Walted about here under a couple of different identities, but only lasted a couple of weeks. It was this thread and a couple of others which finally blew his cover.

The ARRSE thread is quite an epic at about 40 pages, but they doggedly pursued and outed the clown. Let it be a warning.

[wildheart]

Should I stop posing in my local as ex catering corps then?

Depends if the chicks dig it or not p-)

[EsoognomEhT]

hahah, good. What a ****

[Beer Monster]

hahah, good. What a ****

Made my day. The photo on the front cover is priceless.

[EsoognomEhT]

Shame they didn't use the one of him with his airsoft pistol shoved up his arrse ( I kid you not for those that haven't seen it)

[DeltaWhisky58]

Shame they didn't use the one of him with his airsoft pistol shoved up his arrse ( I kid you not for those that haven't seen it)

I don't recommend posting it here.