MP.net Dumbarse of the week 19 - 23 November 07

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Another stereotypical US hating european.

*Yawn*

No doubt your just pissed at Howard because he snapped up the East Timor gas deal whilst your country sat around wringing your hands over your ex-colony.

As usual.



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Stonewall71

MP.net Dumbarse of the week

19 - 23 November 07

[Opening Batsman]

Thoroughly deserved. woot

[DevilDogHopeful]

Congrats Stonewall.

[Trenchcoat]

Congratulations you earned it.............. any chance for a few words?

[MG 3]

Who says hardwork never pays off. Congrats Stonewall.

[Bulletproof]

Just another close-minded clown... Err a puppet I should say.

[Midav]

But c'mon. It's the fault of Amerikka!!

Hey wait... I missed a third k

*snicker*

Good choice ;)

[Hilbert]

Who says hardwork never pays off. Congrats Stonewall.

Is it really hard work or is it just talent?
Just some food for thought.

[MG 3]

Is it really hard work or is it just talent?
Just some food for thought.

Hmm! Got me thinking. And I think your right, these blokes are talanted and work hard to go that extra mile to reach this thread. WTF am i writing. sorry ppl just a bit high right now.

[LRPV]

^^^BS

You are just another attention seeker!p-)

Heck even DW58 has set up his own award to get some...


PS MG3 : Your PM s service aint working.

[DeltaWhisky58]

You are just another attention seeker!p-)

Heck even DW58 has set up his own award to get some...


Don't flatter yourself that you think you understand my reasoning.

[MG 3]

^^^BS

You are just another attention seeker!p-)

Heck even DW58 has set up his own award to get some...


PS MG3 : Your PM s service aint working.

You got me there. Next time I'll wear a pink dress and a tiara so it isn't that obvious.p-)

[Lancero]

I fail to see how a stupid coment about Bush (not in cause the merit of the award) leads to the bashing of Portugal over the Timor Leste Gap issue - especially because what's writen is incomplete (the deal remains unratified by both Australia and Timor Leste) and it's not Portugal's business.
For someone who well punished a biased opinion, you seem to have a pretty much biased view yourself.

[Benny]

Well done, nice effort!

Benny

[javar22]

(...)leads to the bashing of Portugal over the Timor Leste Gap issue - (...) and it's not Portugal's business.
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Ngati, i didn't understand that remark as well.

[Jarhead]

You´ve done a good jobwoot

[Stonewall71]

Thanks a lot my estimated colleagues!!!!woot

The Beer's on me!!!!

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As to the issue of East-Timor...

You sohuld be better informed of what REALLY happened, perhaps you think John Howard was a great-statesman in sending the troops to "help" stop the riots back in 1999, caused by the Aussie's long loved neighbour, the brutal dictatorship of Indonesia, that Australia supported for so long.

Maybe the fact that Mr. Howard, "great saviour" of East -Timor, moved an inch to do something (after the Australian Goverments had been applauding the genocide prepetrated by Indonesia since 1975 of more than 200.000 East-Timorese, recognizing an Illegal ocupation that was never recognized by the UN), was besides the obvious Oil and Gas interests that also persuaded the great Mr. Bush to "liberate" Iraq, was, as I was saying , the espontaneous mass movement of simpel people here in Portugal that demonstrated for weeks and weeks, demanding to the UN and the rulling powers of the world, that something was done to stop another genocide.

I took part of those demonstrations and I am very proud of it!!!

Unfortunately at that time Mr. Howard was for sure busy standing and watching and doing absolutely nothing, until perhaps he got a phone call from Mr. Bill Clinton and "decided " to intervene.

As about the actions of Australian Troops in East-Timor, I would not brag too much about it for what I've heard from several different sources and places.

Also a last word about the "gas contract", being Australia the country that destabilizes constantly East-Timor to put the right "puppet" on the rulling seat, I only have to say , Congratz again, you are definitely learning how to "liberate" countries.

Having said that, I bid you all a found farewell for the moment and again extend my thanks for this "award"!

Signed,
A simple puppet and Clown, anti US, European A**hole

[Flounder]

That was perhaps the best acceptance speech I have ever seen.

[Spy]

No doubt your just pissed at Howard because he snapped up the East Timor gas deal whilst your country sat around wringing your hands over your ex-colony.

As usual.



Dumbarse...

[Anthony91]

Congrats Stonewall!

[Switek]

Thoroughly deserved. woot

2x


Stonewall accept, please my congratulations... :)

[dedbunniez]

Dumbarse...

I would like to hear your reasons on this comment. Would be interesting to hear your viewpoint...

[Opening Batsman]

That was perhaps the best acceptance speech I have ever seen.

I second that.

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[Calanen]

Maybe the fact that Mr. Howard, "great saviour" of East -Timor, moved an inch to do something (after the Australian Goverments had been applauding the genocide prepetrated by Indonesia since 1975 of more than 200.000 East-Timorese, recognizing an Illegal ocupation that was never recognized by the UN), was besides the obvious Oil and Gas interests that also persuaded the great Mr. Bush to "liberate" Iraq, was, as I was saying , the espontaneous mass movement of simpel people here in Portugal that demonstrated for weeks and weeks, demanding to the UN and the rulling powers of the world, that something was done to stop another genocide.



Oh dear. I think he is looking for a Bar on his DAOTW medal.

[javar22]

Oh dear. I think he is looking for a Bar on his DAOTW medal.


i'm not up to date in Australian interior policy, so i won't comment on Mr Howard, but Stonewall is right at the very sentence you chose to underline. Portugal was THE country that most supported an UN enforcement on the indonesian unlawfull invasion and genocide. Even if it was an ex-colony.

Those very same public demonstrations were a very strong and honest popular movement. Un-political connected. Please don't denigrate that effort.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Dumbarse...

Truth hurts don't it, sport?rofl



@Stonewall71: Feel free to make a thread about the evil Australian's and their actions with regard to East Timor.

That'd be entertaining.

[LRPV]

^^^^^^

That's just plain mean...p-) you're channeling him right into the sights of a well known Scottish gentleman....:)

[shorty]

^^^^^^

That's just plain mean...p-) you're channeling him right into the sights of a well known Scottish gentleman....:) I'm sure DW would be willing overlook it, citing provocation from Ngati. Maaaaaybe....p-)

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

The word you're looking for is provocation.

But no, I'm simply suggesting he produce a thread where he can robustly debate his flawed and biased opinions with regards the Australian involvement in East Timor.

Interesting how accurate I was in my initial assessment though...

[shorty]

The word you're looking for is provocation.

Yep your right. Forgive me, it's late and I've got a migraine.

[Opening Batsman]

But no, I'm simply suggesting he produce a thread where he can robustly debate his flawed and biased opinions with regards the Australian involvement in East Timor.

I, too, am intrigued by allegations of gross misconduct.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Yep your right. Forgive me, it's late and I've got a migraine.

Think nothing of it, dear fellow.

[DeltaWhisky58]

^^^^^^

That's just plain mean...p-) you're channeling him right into the sights of a well known Scottish gentleman....:)

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[digrar]

As about the actions of Australian Troops in East-Timor, I would not brag too much about it for what I've heard from several different sources and places.



What have you heard, I was on the ground, I might be able to tell you if your sources are talking out of their arse...

[Calanen]

Those very same public demonstrations were a very strong and honest popular movement. Un-political connected. Please don't denigrate that effort.

I wasn't denigrating anything. It was Stonewall that was denigrating the Australian effort. I am glad the people of Portugal protested, who knows to what extent that changed UN or Indonesian policy, but it couldn't have hurt.

But to imply that striding around with a placard in the safety of Portugal is somewhere in the same stratosphere as actually putting troops on the ground in Timor, or is more of a sacrifice than actually being the troops on the ground who put their lives on the line for these principles - is utter nonsense.

That was what the Bar nomination was for, it had nothing to do with any criticism of the protestors.

[Lancero]

But to imply that striding around with a placard in the safety of Portugal is somewhere in the same stratosphere as actually putting troops on the ground in Timor, or is more of a sacrifice than actually being the troops on the ground who put their lives on the line for these principles - is utter nonsense.


Couldn't agree more with your here.
Yet, Portugal also putted boots on the ground in Timor Leste. Still does.

[dacanadianbomb]

Thats actually the first acceptance speech of a candidate I have ever seen,although I havent been keeping up to date.
Seriously, crazy people arent crazy, its everyone else around them thatis bonkers

[Calanen]

Couldn't agree more with your here.
Yet, Portugal also putted boots on the ground in Timor Leste. Still does.

Yes, and Malaysia, and New Zealand, and the US....

My comment was directed only towards our hero saying that the heavy lifting for Operation Astute was really done by protesters in Portugal, and was somehow way more important than anything the troops did.

[javar22]

I wasn't denigrating anything. It was Stonewall that was denigrating the Australian effort. I am glad the people of Portugal protested, who knows to what extent that changed UN or Indonesian policy, but it couldn't have hurt.

But to imply that striding around with a placard in the safety of Portugal is somewhere in the same stratosphere as actually putting troops on the ground in Timor, or is more of a sacrifice than actually being the troops on the ground who put their lives on the line for these principles - is utter nonsense.

That was what the Bar nomination was for, it had nothing to do with any criticism of the protestors.

I will not get into the discussion on who made the best or greatest effort regarding troops deployment. It's not even comparable the ability Australia had/has to deploy reaction forces in that area (or any other for that matter) to that of Portugal. I agree that deploying troops and manifestating are not the same effort: but to talk about that we would have to analise the whole political history of these events in the UN.

I understood your remark as an effort of denigrating that popular movement - if i understood it uncorrectly, i apologise. I also understood ngati's first assessment likewise (at the end of his initial post)

And, as lancero said it, we too had/have men on the ground. I'm in a position to debate with real and up to date info on this matter (wich i would rather not...).

[Lancero]

Yes, and Malaysia, and New Zealand, and the US....

My comment was directed only towards our hero saying that the heavy lifting for Operation Astute was really done by protesters in Portugal, and was somehow way more important than anything the troops did.


All's good. Didn't mean to imply portuguese made more than others.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Oh dear. I think he is looking for a Bar on his DAOTW medal.

hey - a little off topic here - but do we have an actual medal / ribbon etc. for the DAOTW? Shouldn't the weekly award be accompanied by a ceremonial presentation of said award in it's felt-lined box? Repeat winners should be able to get a device on it, as you say...

[Andreas]

hey - a little off topic here - but do we have an actual medal / ribbon etc. for the DAOTW? Shouldn't the weekly award be accompanied by a ceremonial presentation of said award in it's felt-lined box? Repeat winners should be able to get a device on it, as you say...

If I remember correctly CJ is quite the designer, we might ask him.

[superbuzzmetal]

Must have been a real slow week rofl

[Opening Batsman]

And thus the circle is complete.:roll: