BoatLoad of Eco-Warriors Looking for Global Warming in Antarctic Strike Iceberg, Sink

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BoatLoad of Eco-Warriors Looking for Global Warming in Antarctic Strike Iceberg, Sink and Leave Huge Carbon Footprint on Bottom of Ocean.


Oh, the Irony!!!!

What the Main Stream Media won't tell you.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780


Al Gore buddy owner of sunken ship that left huge carbon footprint on Antarctic Ocean floor

By Judi McLeod Monday, November 26, 2007

You’d never read this in the mainstream media: The owner of MS Explorer that sank, leaving a huge carbon footprint at the bottom of the Antarctic Ocean Friday is an acolyte of teensy-weensy carbon footprint crusader Al Gore (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780#).
G.A.P. Adventures (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780#) CEO and Explorer owner, Bruce Poon Tip and Gore have similar ideals, “filling their schedules with speaking engagements on environmental change to educate global audiences.” And that’s straight off of www.gapadventures.com (http://www.gapadventures.com/). In fact, as recently as last April, both Poon Tip and Gore gave presentations at the Green Living Show in Toronto.
“I expressed my admiration for Mr. Gore’s commitment and leadership which spans more than 20 years,” commented Poon Tip. “I also invited him aboard our legendary polar expedition ship, the MS Explorer to visit the Arctic.”
The legendary polar expedition ship…”had at least five faults at its last inspection,” according to Greenpeace spokeswoman Bunny McDiarmid. “Maritime records show the MV Explorer has completed more than 40 cruises (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780#) to the ice, but has lately been suffering maintenance and safety problems.”
Maintenance and safety problems never kept the MS Explorer from setting out for the Antarctica two weeks ago.
Good thing Gore was otherwise occupied when 154 passengers and crew had to be rescued at sea when their eco-cruise ship struck ice in the Antarctic (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780#) Ocean and started to sink early Friday morning. (None of the eco warriors aboard MS Explorer were identified in weekend media coverage).
Twelve Canadians—10 tourists and two expedition guides on the eco-adventure cruise—spent anxious frigid hours in lifeboats once they were evacuated from the Explorer.
In addition to the 12 Canadians were travelers from the United States, Britain, Australia, France and several other countries on board the ship.
There was little mention in the mainstream media that the passengers were comprised of eco warriors or that they had spent thousands of dollars to see ice at a much closer range than they ever dreamed.

Making it a Thanksgiving Day to remember, the polar cruise (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/780#) came with that sinking feeling of a miniature Titanic. Passengers and crew aboard the Canadian cruise liner waited in frigid temperatures for some two hours before pick up in a part of the ocean with no land in sight.
How the vessel sustained a “fist-sized hole” is a mystery taken down to the ocean floor.
The 38-year-old vessel was sold by Abercrombie & Kent (A&K) to G.A.P Adventures in 2004. A&K has since acquired Explorer II, now called “Minerva”.
A well-known ship in marine circles, the 75-metre Explorer was built in 1969 and was specifically designed with a reinforced double hull to withstand ice and other environmental challenges.
Near the South Shetland Islands, the ship began to take on water and a distress call was made. The Explorer’s pumps managed the incoming water while passengers and expedition staff were gathered in the ship’s lecture hall and informed of the emergency. All eco warrior passengers had received evacuation training on their first day at sea, and news reports indicated that nobody panicked when things started to go wrong.
As the Los Angeles Times described it: “The first cruise ship built to ply the frigid waters of Antarctica became the first to sink there Friday. The red-hulled Explorer struck ice, taking water as 154 passengers and crew members scrambled to safety aboard lifeboats and rafts. The ship later went to the bottom.”
According to one blogger who plans an Antarctica trip, “apparently, most (Explorer passengers) did not have wallets or passports with them,” adding in a Note to Self: “Wear identification belt at all times.”
Passengers and crew were taken to a Chilean military base on King George Island, the largest of the South Shetland Islands, from which they were flown home yesterday.
Meanwhile, Greenpeace believes tourism in Antarctica should be strictly limited because of the fate of MS Explorer, but the silence is deafening from Poon Tip and Gore about the huge carbon footprint left on the ocean floor.




And to add insult to injury they were Rescued by the Military!!!



roflroflrofl

[Vinny_121_DDS]

Twelve Canadians—10 tourists and two expedition guides on the eco-adventure cruise—spent anxious frigid hours in lifeboats once they were evacuated from the Explorer.

I'm sure they wanted it to be colder for the sake of mankind and the environment while they were freezing their butts off. I'm sure there was a lot of bickering going on during those moments.

[CPL Trevoga]

I applaud Eco-Warriors. It's a noble cause. I want myself and my children to leave on clean Earth.

[that_one_guy]

wait, is his name really Poon Tip?

and seriously "Abercrombie and Kent (A&K) and G.A.P. Adventures"

dollar says they were rescued by Old Navy... :)

[akd]

wait, is his name really Poon Tip?

and seriously "Abercrombie and Kent (A&K) and G.A.P. Adventures"

dollar says they were rescued by Old Navy... :)

Abercrombie and Kent is a cruise line / high-end travel company.

Abercrombie and Fitch transforms thousands of frat boys into even bigger douche bags.

[sexyhamburger]

dollar says they were rescued by Old Navy... :-)

haha, good show sir

[Ghostryder]

And to add insult to injury they were Rescued by the Military!!!




How is this adding insult to injury?

I don't really know what everyone on this site has against conservation.

[maw]

i can't believe no one's pointed out that the ms explorer crashed, in a bsod (blue sea of death).

[orionhawk]

How is this adding insult to injury?

I don't really know what everyone on this site has against conservation.
that was not a matter of having anything against conservation, it's a matter of conservationists (specifically greenpizza) having something against the military.

There is also a measure of frustration with this gloabl warming BS. 30 years ago, the scientist-priests were foretelling global cooling, with proof of how it was going to destroy the world. these people can't tell us what the weather is going to be like next week, but they can tell us what is going to happen in 100 years?

I mean, just dumping megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere is silly, sure. So create some incentives to quit doing it. But for crying out loud, quit with the hysteria.:bash:

[orionhawk]

i can't believe no one's pointed out that the ms explorer crashed, in a bsod (blue sea of death).
I noticed, but i refrained.:)

[Ghostryder]

that was not a matter of having anything against conservation, it's a matter of conservationists (specifically greenpizza) having something against the military.

I'm for conservation, do you think I have something against the military? Don't generalize, and hold up Greenpeace as a organization that defines conservationism.


There is also a measure of frustration with this gloabl warming BS. 30 years ago, the scientist-priests were foretelling global cooling, with proof of how it was going to destroy the world. these people can't tell us what the weather is going to be like next week, but they can tell us what is going to happen in 100 years?

Listen dude, arguing with facts is one thing, even if it is arguing against the nearly unanimous conviction of an entire scientific discipline, making **** up is a whole different bag. You don't want the "scientist-priests" telling you what to think? Fine, have a chat with an Aussie who works in and around the GBR.


I mean, just dumping megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere is silly, sure. So create some incentives to quit doing it. But for crying out loud, quit with the hysteria.:bash:

Look at you go, you're a conservationist already.

[orionhawk]

How is this adding insult to injury?

I don't really know what everyone on this site has against conservation.


I'm for conservation, do you think I have something against the military? Don't generalize, and hold up Greenpeace as a organization that defines conservationism.



Listen dude, arguing with facts is one thing, even if it is arguing against the nearly unanimous conviction of an entire scientific discipline, making **** up is a whole different bag. You don't want the "scientist-priests" telling you what to think? Fine, have a chat with an Aussie who works in and around the GBR.



Look at you go, you're a conservationist already.

If you're going to bitch about generalization, perhaps you should avoid it yourself. I was answering your question about "what everyone on this site has against conservation".

The initial article was hammering on Greenpeace. Greenpeace has, in fact, showed a massive anti-military bias. That, I would assume, is why many on this site seems to have a problem with them.

[Ghostryder]

If you're going to bitch about generalization, perhaps you should avoid it yourself. I was answering your question about "what everyone on this site has against conservation".

Alright, good point,


The initial article was hammering on Greenpeace. Greenpeace has, in fact, showed a massive anti-military bias. That, I would assume, is why many on this site seems to have a problem with them.

Well, if true, they can get ****ed for all I care.

[budgie]

How is this adding insult to injury?

You see the assumption (the first three letters of this word are VERY important) is that enviromentalists - here referred to as 'eco-warriors' because it sounds like 'eco-terrorists' and fires up the Republican base - hate God and family values and the military. So assuming that these 'eco-fascists' (just wait) despise all things apple pie, it must have absolutely crushed them to be rescued by the [Chilean] military. Despite the fact they were all smiling like hell when they got off the Herc. Confused? Don't worry so am I.


I don't really know what everyone on this site has against conservation.

Well this is one I've given a lot of thought to and it's part knee-jerk reaction and part genuine opposition. In both cases it traces back to the sixties.

You see the Conservative/Liberal divide of today has been breweing a long tome. The Bush administration is simply the culmination of decades of work by a loose coalition of Christian groups, industry and the far right to dominate American politics. For a while it worked with the house, senate, judiciary and executive all run by the GOP. Their strategy was to get everyone to hate those who disagreed with them by painting them as un-American, un-Christian, communist and immoral. This is not a conspiracy - there was no master plan or grand strategy, but rather a movement that has coalesced along the same lines and worked together and fed of one another.

In the sixties it was easy:

Hippies and the Beat generation were the first targets. A 'loose' attitude towards 'traditional' morals? Trying to destroy family values; Demanding peace when America was involved in a number of [unnecessary] conflicts around the globe? Enemy sympathizers! Eschewing the traditional pattern of work and ownership to live in communes? Bolsheviks! Exploring other religions or aspects of religion (often with mind-altering substances)? Heathens!

The Right even gave them cunning nicknames like 'peacenik' and 'beatnik' to associate them with the Soviet Union. These words are still used as derogatory terms.

A whole variety of new causes were spawned by the sixties and these moved on into the seventies and eighties. Vegans? They'll put ranchers out of business! Environmentalists? Tree huggers trying to destroy livelihoods; animal rights groups? They're slowing down science; anti-nukes? They're selling us out to the Russians. Mid-East peace? Stalling the second coming of Christ! If you could associate say, environmentalism with the peaceniks then you could kill birds with one stone:

Twenty years on these stereotypes are ingrained in the collective consciousness of the Right.

Civil rights activists: bleeding heart liberals
Hippies: lazy, ungodly, unwashed pagans
peaceniks: enemy sympathisers;soft on terror
anti-globalizationists: commies

Civil rights = hippiedom = Godless = sissies = communist = Un-American

It's easy to conflate all these types because they all shared some common cause at one time or another. It is true that people who care more about the environment tend to be 'liberal' so to speak, and often care more for human rights too. What is not true is that Liberals are out to destroy America (or the world) with their Godless, terrorist-loving, tree-hugging, wealth-stealing agendas.

However that's the way that conservation, among other causes, has been slandered over the years and so there's always that knee-jerk reaction from some of the guys here: whenever they see something to do with such groups in the news their first response is to roll their eyes and groan something about 'commie-peaceniks', without ever stopping to think they might have been sold a pup.

[Firetxmi]

Other Gems from the "Canada Free Press:"

John McCain’s Alleged Compassion for 80-Year-Old Illegal Aliens

10 Steps to Understanding Liberal Thinking

Hate Christmas and Fireplaces? Welcome to San Francisco!

No, this is not a joke... Here is the link:

http://canadafreepress.com/

Damn that main stream media and their bias! Good thing we have Canada Free Press to set us straight.

Something I find very funny is that a majority of their articles have to do with the U.S. and not Canada.

[muck]

I'm not too fond of those self-styled do-gooders either, but I don't see anything funny in it when a bunch of them gets in distress at sea.

[Mastermind]

Okay...Im so damned conservative I even have arguments with ME....But, as a conservative, I am very stong on protecting the environment. I actually carry an extra pack to pick up trash when I go hiking...otherpeoples trash!!! I cuss out shooters who don't pick up their trash, brass or leave targets or shoot trees and innocent little animals.

I am equally sickened by the pollution of the oil companies and the sinking of eco-tourist ships in pristine Antartic water...that fuel oil and lubricants will bubble to the surface for a century to come and will probably kill thousands of Antartic animals over the decades to come.

But, here is my problem with it all: If you are a human on this planet, you are a polluter. You use fuel to keep warm, you eat food that is grown and delivered by poisoning the land and the atmosphere. Hell, according to some, your very breath is deadly poison to the Mother Earth...your CO2 is contributing to her total destruction. When you die your corpse will not only take up space, pollute the earth (if you are cremated your fire fumes will pollute, too) and if buried your formaldehyde preservatives will last five hundred years and pose a danger to future generations!

In other words...if you don't have a real solution...you had better just shut the fk up or you are a first class hypocrite! Buying "carbon credits" so you can fly on down to Las Vegas with a clear eco-conscience is not the answer. The real answer is radical birth control, radical consumption control, radical living space control, diet control, home construction re-thinking, in size, material and design...agricultural control, transportation, infrastructure, and just plain old "Holy siht! We gotta do everything different!" if we are gonna save the poor planet.

No one wants to do any of that "real siht", now do they? Why? Because its really, really fking hard to do. It means a real commitment to the cause and it makes just about everyone totally pissed.

As I see it, right now, everyone who calls himself an "ecology minded person" is just another god dmned selfish hippy with a desire to make otherpeople believe they are doing something real.

Folks...I got news for ya...it's all just total bull scatology!

When thigs get over loaded and way out of control...this old Planet will take care of business...and you won't believe what happens then.

Meanwhile...just get on with the party....It's a good bet there is not one thing we or anyone can do to stop it and it sure as hell aint gonna last much longer. Pass the chips and salza...Hey...someone grab me another Ice Cold Miller...

[Vinny_121_DDS]

I have to agree with MAstermind. The man made climate change is one thing I really don't believe in, but otherwise, we have one earth, we have a lot of power to change the landscape, but we must be responsible in keeping the earth as clean as possible.

[Alpheus]

I actually carry an extra pack to pick up trash when I go hiking...otherpeoples trash!!!

You sound like my old man. When we would go out for a hike in the Rockies, now matter how remote the backcountry, we always came back with a couple of beer cans. Never bottles, and never the same brand.


But, here is my problem with it all: If you are a human on this planet, you are a polluter. You use fuel to keep warm, you eat food that is grown and delivered by poisoning the land and the atmosphere. Hell, according to some, your very breath is deadly poison to the Mother Earth...your CO2 is contributing to her total destruction. When you die your corpse will not only take up space, pollute the earth (if you are cremated your fire fumes will pollute, too) and if buried your formaldehyde preservatives will last five hundred years and pose a danger to future generations!

In other words...if you don't have a real solution...you had better just shut the fk up or you are a first class hypocrite! Buying "carbon credits" so you can fly on down to Las Vegas with a clear eco-conscience is not the answer. The real answer is radical birth control, radical consumption control, radical living space control, diet control, home construction re-thinking, in size, material and design...agricultural control, transportation, infrastructure, and just plain old "Holy siht! We gotta do everything different!" if we are gonna save the poor planet.

No one wants to do any of that "real siht", now do they? Why? Because its really, really fking hard to do. It means a real commitment to the cause and it makes just about everyone totally pissed.

As I see it, right now, everyone who calls himself an "ecology minded person" is just another god dmned selfish hippy with a desire to make otherpeople believe they are doing something real.

Folks...I got news for ya...it's all just total bull scatology!

When thigs get over loaded and way out of control...this old Planet will take care of business...and you won't believe what happens then.
Couldn't have put it better myself. woot

[budgie]

As I see it, right now, everyone who calls himself an "ecology minded person" is just another god dmned selfish hippy with a desire to make otherpeople believe they are doing something real.

Folks...I got news for ya...it's all just total bull scatology!



I believed I touched on this kind of knee-jerk reaction in my earlier post.

[Mastermind]

Ah, yes...the overly "nuanced" reasoning...the "relaxed knee" response. So enlightened as to not be explainable except by calling people "conservatives", "eco-terrorists", neo-cons and such...that saves quite a bit of typing, dosen't it? No need to render an intelligent counter point...just declare an argument as "knee jerk response" and dismiss it out of hand. Perfectly "Greenie-Commie-Crat". Typcially predictable.

[budgie]

You're right, I don't mean to dismiss the whole argument - just the 'selfish hippy' part. After all there are plenty of selfish industrialists, conservatives, yuppies, nimbies and security moms not doing their bit at all, for any reason.

[loganinkosovo]

I'm not too fond of those self-styled do-gooders either, but I don't see anything funny in it when a bunch of them gets in distress at sea.


It's called Irony.....

[NavyTimes]

Actually the ship to the left on this picture was the first to reach the 'Explorer', and the passengers was transferred to it.

[budgie]

You mean they were rescued by another boatload of eco-islamo-pinko-warriors or whatever? Oh the irony...