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GhostBuster
11-29-2007, 04:48 PM
Published on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 by the Black Agenda Report (http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=448&Itemid=1)
Taser Nation


by Margaret Kimberley

Apparently there are ticking time bombs on every block, in every town across the country. Bar fights, traffic stops and other ordinary forms of disruptive behavior cannot be allowed to go unchecked. Time is wasting and someone has to be tortured quickly if we are all to be kept safe.

The proto-fascist direction of the nation is now enveloping people who never saw themselves as the targets of state terror, that is to say, white people. Black people were always victims of police brutality. White people either approved or may have even felt sorry for Negroes but just didn’t care enough. They didn’t think the same treatment would ever be meted out to them.

Now thanks to video cameras and You Tube, everyone is now a witness to the trickle down movement of police brutality. If the president and vice president and Congress determine that torture is acceptable for some, inevitably it becomes acceptable for all.

The argument being made by presidential candidates and law professors is that torture is fine as long as the circumstances are right. Like script writers for bad movies they all envision a “ticking time bomb” scenario. The bomb ticks, a terrorism suspect is nabbed, and voila, we have ways of making him talk. While Arabs and Muslims are the targets of the movie fantasy moment, the jack boot of the state does not isolate itself, but instead makes victims of anyone unfortunate enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Police brutality and selective prosecutions are not new. The old fashioned billy club was the low tech weapon of yesteryear. Now that physical torture has been championed by the White House, instead of being practiced in the basements of police precincts, everyone is at risk. It just isn’t possible for abuse to be legitimized against one group.

In recent months there has been a spate of news stories, with horrific video to match, showing police officers using Tasers to subdue harmless people. In Warren, Ohio a cop used one of the stun guns on a handcuffed woman. A Utah highway cop grew so annoyed with a blonde, blue eyed, white man who wouldn’t sign a traffic citation, that he gave him the 50,000 voltage jolt just to teach him who was boss.

None of these cops seemed to care that the video cameras mounted on their cars noted their every act and comment. In the Utah case, the itchy trigger fingered cop openly bragged to a colleague, “He took a ride with the Taser.” His friend replied jokingly for posterity, “Painful, isn’t it?”.

The United Nations Committee Against Torture has announced that Tasers constitute a form of torture. It is little wonder their usage has proliferated in Bushland. According to a 2006 Amnesty International report, more than 150 Americans died after Tasers were used against them. It is also not surprising that shooting human beings with jolts of electricity has now become militarized.

The Defense Department has developed a “pain ray” that will be used for crowd control in Iraq. The scarily named Active Denial System (ADS) was created by the Raytheon corporation. (It is an article of faith among the Bushiites that nothing happens unless it sends loads of cash in the direction of defense contractors.) Torture has moved from low tech, water boarding, to high tech, rays that burn the skin. Bombs and bullets are now passe for Iraqis, Uncle Sam wants them to suffer in new and different ways.

Meanwhile back at the ranch in the United States, a local NAACP branch in Maryland has called for a suspension of Taser use. Two black men were recently attacked with police stun guns and one died. The original victim group remains victimized, even as the terror spreads around the country and across the globe.

The occupation of foreign lands, and the attacks on civil liberties at home and abroad lead down the same old road. At every level of government, anyone wearing a uniform gains the right to assault and to kill. A weary and distracted public becomes less and less likely to fight back. At the very least we have You Tube to reveal those occasions when the petty dictators decide to teach a lesson. As the Utah highway cop tells his victim, “You wouldn’t follow my instructions.” That is all the rest of us need to know. Follow instructions and you’ll be safe, if you’re lucky.

Margaret Kimberley’s Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR. Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgandaReport.Com (Margaret.Kimberley@BlackAgandaReport.Com).

© 2007 The Black Agenda Report





Source (http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/28/5491/).

guest
11-29-2007, 04:54 PM
Let's just go back to shooting people.

This is such bullsh*t

BTW, most of the Taliban we've shot, would have been more than happy to have been "Tazered", instead.

GhostBuster
11-29-2007, 04:59 PM
The point is, some cops using tasers as torture tools to make people do what they want them to do. Sorta "show them who's boss".

wayneard3413
11-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Wow i would love to see their 150 people who have died as a result of a taser, there is more a risk from positional asphyxiation from being sprayed and dumped in the back of a cruiser. Or i guess they would rather see a suspect take multiple baton strikes and have several officers needed to restrain and cuff him since that looks better on video anyway to help further their cause.

wayneard3413
11-29-2007, 05:02 PM
Ghostbuster im not going to argue that there are ****bag cops out there but guess what? They were always out there... If i wanted to "show you whos boss" do you not think that it is easy enough to use some creative report writing to show why exactly you had to have your ass handed to you, or how that deer jumped out in front of me, forcing me to break check you into the partition.

Hollis
11-29-2007, 05:06 PM
The point is, some cops using tasers as torture tools to make people do what they want them to do. Sorta "show them who's boss".

all I gotta say;

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wayneard3413
11-29-2007, 05:10 PM
Yeah man you cant believe everything you read... Tasers have saved so many injuries to both LEOs and suspects thats its not even funny... Say for instance you want to act like a jackass, instead of closing in with you to give you a dose of OC (without knowing your medical background which can pose all sorts of problems) or using a baton, i can stand back at a safe distance and deploy a taser. Almost always dropping you before anyone gets seriously injured

Laconian
11-29-2007, 06:32 PM
The point is, some cops using tasers as torture tools to make people do what they want them to do. Sorta "show them who's boss".

So, in your expert opinion, because "some cops" are using the tool inappropriately it should be taken away from all officers? Brilliant. Some police have used excessive force with batons, OC, mace, and firearms. So should we disarm all officers totally?


Oh, and the article is crap...

2Sheds_Jackson
11-29-2007, 07:26 PM
George Bush Hates Black People

Man, if Ms. Kimberly had used just a couple more laughable clichés I would have thought this was lifted off of The Onion. Good lord, she completely destroys her own premise within 3 paragraphs of establishing it. Thankfully for the entertained reader, she's all caught up with the crazy music playing in her head. She just goes skipping merrily on, head down and fist in the air. I especially liked the clumsy attempt to rope George Bush into this - I mean after all, what evil isn't he personally responsible for - and the the paean to the UN's Committee Of People Who Know Best. Meh. I'm off to "not care enough about Negroes".

:cantbeli:

Gothjod
11-29-2007, 07:30 PM
Taze them... who give's a ****. The article is Crap.

akd
11-30-2007, 12:41 AM
Let's just go back to shooting people.

This is such bullsh*t

BTW, most of the Taliban we've shot, would have been more than happy to have been "Tazered", instead.

The problem is not cops using tasers in situations where they otherwise would have employed their sidearms, it's some cops using tazers as an alternative to a nightstick or physical restraint, as a way to simply compel cooperation in difficult situations that are in no way life threatening.

But this does not mean they shouldn't be used. This just means that there needs to be better training and stricter protocol about use.

wayneard3413
11-30-2007, 12:52 AM
Well the taser is meant to be a supplement to the baton... And it has nothing to do with a "life threatening" situation.... Ill break it down to a personal level here, say you dont want to get out of your vehicle when lawfully ordered to by an officer. Granted this is not posing an immediately life threatening situation it crossing over into the area of officer safety. Now lets say you are the officer and feel the need (again lets imagine your the one who has his ass on the line there in person without the luxury of armchair quarterbacking after the fact. You now have several options to gain compliance over this subject. The tools available to you are your duty weapon, OC, baton, taser and of course actually laying hands on them. What are you going to do? Also in a more straight forward scenario, this same subject jumps out of the vehicle and is approaching you in a threatening manner, all the while ignoring your demands to stop.

wicked_hind
11-30-2007, 12:57 AM
The point is, some cops using tasers as torture tools to make people do what they want them to do. Sorta "show them who's boss".
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NuclearHead
11-30-2007, 01:26 AM
Black people were always victims of police brutality. White people either approved or may have even felt sorry for Negroes but just didn’t care enough. They didn’t think the same treatment would ever be meted out to them.

This is just stupid and racist. I stopped reading after this.

Buckeye67
11-30-2007, 01:28 AM
it's some cops using tazers as an alternative to a nightstick or physical restraint, as a way to simply compel cooperation in difficult situations that are in no way life threatening.

So your take is that it's more "humane" to beat someone into submission with a club, which is just as capable of producing DEATH, and far more dangerous in terms of producing other injuries to the person being beaten, than it is to use a taser?

That's awesome. I wish you were the police chief where I work now. ****, I'd go back into active full-time police work if I could beat the **** out of people with a club like we did back in the "good ol' days".

Kaapeli
11-30-2007, 05:13 AM
So your take is that it's more "humane" to beat someone into submission with a club, which is just as capable of producing DEATH, and far more dangerous in terms of producing other injuries to the person being beaten, than it is to use a taser?

What happened to good old control holds?
If these guys/gals can't hold a pregnant woman down, submit a single screaming college hippie or a frustrated polish immigrant when outnumbering him 4 to 1 without tazers/batons then how about less donuts and more gym.

DeltaWhisky58
11-30-2007, 05:15 AM
I think all this taser BS has gone on long enough.



N.B. Until all of this dies down, there is a temporary moritorium on Taser-related topics as they seem to get certain elements of the board too fired up - Ghosbuster take particular note!