Bail Possible For Fort Dix Terror Suspects?

[Peris]

since May the US media have a problem saying the arrested were kosovar Albanians. Their origin soon was known from blogs.



NEW YORK -- A judge opened the possibility that the five men charged with planning to attack soldiers on Fort Dix could be freed on bail as they await trial.

The men had previously been denied bail, but their lawyers say the situation has changed because the Federal Detention Center in Philadelphia is not giving the suspects adequate access to recordings they need to review in preparation for trial.

In legal papers filed over the past week, the men asked to be moved from the Special Housing Unit, where they've been held since their arrests in May.

The five -- brothers Dritan, Shain and Eljvir Duka; Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer; and Serdar Tatar -- are all foreign-bornp-) and in their 20s. They were charged with planning a raid on Fort Dix and face life in prison if convicted of conspiring to murder military personnel. A sixth man pleaded guilty last month to conspiring to provide weapons to the group.

No attack was ever staged on the base, which is being used largely to train reservists bound for Iraq.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/14706025/detail.html?rss=ny&psp=news



some info:

6 arrested in plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix

Some of the would-be attackers have been living illegally in the United States, while others are legal immigrants, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. Four are ethnic Albanians, one was born in Turkey, and a sixth was born in Jordan.




In 1999, [Fort Dix] sheltered more than 4,000 ethnic Albanian refugees during the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia…After that war, refugees were allowed to return to the U.N.-run province of Kosovo in Serbia or to seek permanent residency in the United States.

[Peris]

The Terrorist In My Backyard

The names of the six arrested men were given - only one of which was familar to me. Agron Abdullahu, who is the older brother of one of my son's best friends. Agron, 24, who can often be seen outside his family home working on cars with his brothers. Who checked out our groceries at the local ShopRite. Who, along with his family, was Albanian-born but now a US citizen. The others arrested, but not Abdullahu, were charged with plotting to kill soldiers in an armed attack on Fort Dix using a variety of weapons including automatic machine guns and semiautomatic rifles. Abdullahu was charged with aiding and abetting the Duka brothers' illegal possession of weapons.
When you see a news report about terrorists and terrorism, it is easy to buy into the fear mentality. I heard this all day long around the neighborhood - how frightening that this had happened so close to home, how we are not safe in our own backyards, how such a monster who would kill US soldiers could have hid in plain sight among us.
When I read Bill Bradley's book not long ago, one of the things he said that stuck with me is that we must realize that every case of terrorism is not the same. We have to stop waving the fearful banner of 'terrorism', and realize that each of these situations is unique. These were not men funded by an international terrorist organization. None of them were even from the Middle East - they were Eastern Europeans.
Steve's friend has spoken to him about his childhood during the Yugoslavian wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_wars) - how he'd come to America at the age of five, but before that, he'd lived where they'd seen bodies rotting in the street on a daily basis. Walking by bodies with their eyes gouged out, or the heads pulped, putrifying in the streets. According to the news, Agron had been a sniper in Kosovo. He would have been little more than my son's age, fourteen, at the time. Growing up like that among the bodies and the shooting and the war - you have to wonder what that does to a developing mind. What a child absorbs from that, and how that contributed to whatever mindset he got into that made him want to be a part of this plot.




http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976995991




Let me get this,they would attack to kill us soldiers on the same base their people found shelter during 1999:cantbeli:

[TheSteve]

I always laughed about these particular "terror" suspects, I frankly found their whole plot hilarious. Not that attacking U.S. servicemen is funny, but these guys a bunch of idiots.

Why would terrorist attack the people who know how to use weapons? And why would they attack the place where we keep all our weapons?

What a bunch of assholes.

[Peris]

I always laughed about these particular "terror" suspects



again fron CNN no info about their Albanian descent, syaing ex Yogoslavia.roflno problem to say Turkey and Jordan.


The U.S. Attorney's Office said the three brothers involved, all with the last name Duka, were born in the former Yugoslavia and are illegally residing in the United States. It identified them as Eljvir, 23, Shain, 26, and Dritan, 28, and said the three operate businesses known as Qadr Inc., Colonial Roofing and National Roofing.
The other three men charged are Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, of Cherry Hill, New Jersey, a U.S. citizen born in Jordan who is employed as a taxicab driver in Philadelphia; Serdar Tatar, 23, of Philadelphia, born in Turkey, whose last known employment was at a 7-Eleven; and Agron Abdullahu, 24, of Buena Vista Township, born in the former Yugoslavia and employed at a Shop-Rite Supermarket.


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/08/fortdix.plot/index.html




and their goal was to :



One quote from the alleged recordings was defendant Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer saying, "My intent is to hit a heavy concentration of soldiers. ... This is exactly what we are looking for. You hit four, five or six Humvees and light the whole place [up] and retreat completely without any losses."
One of the informants claimed to have connections with an arms dealer who could sell the alleged conspirators AK-47 automatic machine guns and other weapons, according to the affidavit. Both took part in firearms training with the group, the affidavit said.