Britain is lost to an "immigration explosion"

[BigBaribal]

Incredible, no topic on Morrissey realistic views on England ;-)


The pop singer Morrissey claims he can no longer live in a Britain he believes lost to an "immigration explosion".


The former frontman of the Smiths, who is now based in Rome, claimed England was just 'a memory now'.


The 48-year-old added: "Other countries have held on to their basic identity yet it seems to me that England was thrown away.

........

The change in England is so rapid compared to the change in any other country.

"If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent.

"You'll hear every accent under the sun apart from the British accent.

"The British identity is very attractive, I grew up into it and I find it quaint and very amusing."

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=496992&in_page_id=1773

[CMNot]

This is hilarious.....Morrissey, calling out immigrants, being the fecking child of immigrants - and now living in Rome, an immigrant himself.

Warmed up a cold December night anyhow. That and the Jack.

[BigBaribal]

"....Morrissey, calling out immigrants, being the fecking child of immigrants ..."

Ah, ah, typical blah-blah of an ethno-masochist who cannot see the difference between a ethnic european moving within Europe and an alien coming from outside Europe.

[Eoin666]

This is hilarious.....Morrissey, calling out immigrants, being the fecking child of immigrants - and now living in Rome, an immigrant himself.

rofl superb

How to go from student pin-up idol, to "fat, tory, land-owner" in one easy step

[2Sheds_Jackson]

"....Morrissey, calling out immigrants, being the fecking child of immigrants ..."

Ah, ah, typical blah-blah of an ethno-masochist who cannot see the difference between a ethnic european moving within Europe and an alien coming from outside Europe.

Well, that's kind of how I see it. It's like the difference between somebody moving to NYC from Chicago vs from Tegucigalpa.

[BugHunt]

Sorry that story screams WTF?

London ALWAYS has been very very mxied - has been for last 2 decades at least....

And didnt that muppet also live in a Hollywood mansion for a signifcant part of those last 20 years? Brit through and through he is....

[seraosha]

Yeah yeah, Big Mouth strikes again.

[limbic]

It is undeniably true that the UK is experiencing massive immigration and that immigration is straining the social and political fabric of the country.

That said part of London's charm has always been its multi-cultural mix.

I lived in London for 10 years. It is one of the very few places I could live in the UK precisely because it is such a wonderful cosmopolitan city.

As an economic immigrant into the UK I was profoundly grateful to the people of England for giving me a home and livelihood. They owed me nothing and allowed me to live in their country and thrive. I repaid their hospitality with respect, obeying the law and a certain loyalty (although I fail the Tebbit Test).

I can tell you my attitude was fairly uncommon.

I was regularly struck at how many immigrants I met in the UK hated the place. The exception seemed to be young Irish, who unlike the older generation really seemed to love the place and had ditched all the animosity of the older generation.

If I were an Englishman and I heard these ingrates boasting about how they rip off the state or castigating their host country, I would also want them out.

Additionally, if my countrymen ever start to cause chaos in Britain, I would support their deportation and restrictions on entry.

What is ironic that Morrisey is in Rome. Just today on BBC World they had a story about how Italians are kicking out Romanians (mostly Roma people) and demolishing their shanty towns after a Romanian crime wave propmted an extreme political response (deport them en mass) . They interviewed some Roman ladies and a beautifully spoken woman, speaking for a large group, explained how their dream destination - the place which they all knew was "socially enlightened" and jobs paid well - was Britain. Unfortunately, she explained, it is n ow very hard to get into these days.

I was oddly proud of my former adoptive country.

[wotsnext]

Relax........Its the Daily Mail, They spout this sort of crap every day.

[no-way-jose]

Yeah yeah, Big Mouth strikes again.

LOL, very true.

Well, that's kind of how I see it. It's like the difference between somebody moving to NYC from Chicago vs from Tegucigalpa.*

Can you elaborate a little bit more your statement. Because it seems that the differences between one thing and the other can only be the RACE and the culture(language included). (Distance of course :))
By the way I will shipped out to London in a few weeks any place were i can watch a good soccer match and drink a beer without being singled out. I must say I am hispanic and hopefully that wont be a problem.
TATA

* somebody's quote, I dont know how to do a double quotation.

[Eoin666]

LOL, very true.

Well, that's kind of how I see it. It's like the difference between somebody moving to NYC from Chicago vs from Tegucigalpa.*

Can you elaborate a little bit more your statement. Because it seems that the differences between one thing and the other can only be the RACE and the culture(language included). (Distance of course :))
By the way I will shipped out to London in a few weeks any place were i can watch a good soccer match and drink a beer without being singled out. I must say I am hispanic and hopefully that wont be a problem.
TATA

* somebody's quote, I dont know how to do a double quotation.

Singled out....in London!......you could cover yourself in oil and stick a peacock feather up your arse and no one would take any notice......

London for example has the largest Columbian community in Europe. (I could have said even Brazilian electricians don't stand out, but that would be in very bad taste :oops:...sorry)

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Well, that's kind of how I see it. It's like the difference between somebody moving to NYC from Chicago vs from Tegucigalpa.The thing is folks from NYC and Chicago speak the same language and pretty much share the same culture and outlook, the most recent and largest wave of migrants are Polish who in my opinion have less in common with us than Jamaicans.

[oldsoak]

The thing is folks from NYC and Chicago speak the same language and pretty much share the same culture and outlook, the most recent and largest wave of migrants are Polish who in my opinion have less in common with us than Jamaicans.

Dunno. Depends what you mean by common. When the first Jamaicans came over, they were very obviously different. While they spoke the same language, culturally they were different. Poles fit in easier because there isnt the colour barrier ( unless its Leicester or Bardford ! ) and unless one starts talking its not easy to differentiate.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Dunno. Depends what you mean by common. When the first Jamaicans came over, they were very obviously different. While they spoke the same language, culturally they were different. Poles fit in easier because there isnt the colour barrier ( unless its Leicester or Bardford ! ) and unless one starts talking its not easy to differentiate.Pretty much using the term "common" as common bonds, there seems little in the way of common bonds between post communist Polish and the British.

[CMNot]

(I could have said even Brazilian electricians don't stand out, but that would be in very bad taste :oops:...sorry)

S****** p-)

[no-way-jose]

Singled out....in London!......you could cover yourself in oil and stick a peacock feather up your arse and no one would take any notice......

London for example has the largest Columbian community in Europe. (I could have said even Brazilian electricians don't stand out, but that would be in very bad taste :oops:...sorry)

I dont get your last statement. Why it would be in very bad taste? Could you explain the statement?
Thanks

[BigBaribal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c5BV9i9MnY

[BigBaribal]

[quote]By the way I will shipped out to London in a few weeks any place were i can watch a good soccer match and drink a beer without being singled outquote]

"Panem et circenses", the same old trick to rule the masses. And what a high standard for the identity of a people!

[Eoin666]

I dont get your last statement. Why it would be in very bad taste? Could you explain the statement?
Thanks

Jean Menezes, a Brazilian guy who was mistaken for a potential suicide bomber and shot by anti-terrorist police.

Point I was trying to make was that no one stands out in London whatever ethicity/race/religion/creed/species....I took it from your original question that you thought being hispanic you'd be singled out maybe.

What footy do you want to watch a live action game? as most pubs will show some live games on TV on a Sat/Sun afternoon as well

[BigBaribal]

Interesting variant of "Get Back" ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz4B1FI2uos&eurl=http://www.fdesouche.com/?p=726

[Herrmannek]

I've heard you guys don't like Poles anymore... Good point is half the losers left the country :)

[wotsnext]

I dont have any problem with Poles.........
I meet two Polish girls in the summer, They were running a cake shop in Boston Linclonshire.
They were delicious,
The cakes were pretty good too

[Herrmannek]

I dont have any problem with Poles.........
Don't be afraid speak out loud, we don't like Poles that left either :)

[Eoin666]

Don't be afraid speak out loud, we don't like Poles that left either :)

Both my sister's neighbours are Poles, originally settling after the war, then more relatives came over a few years back, really nice people, you couldn't want any better neighbours, and indeed my sister has been to Wroclaw a few times with them. However, from what has been said, a lot of the original Poles here don't seem to have a high opinion of a lot of the newcomers, couple that with the fact that such large numbers have come over, that police in Lincolnshire are being taught greetings in Polish, that employees have been passed over for promotion because they don't speak Polish.....okay so much of it is media hype and the butt of jokes, but behind all that there may be some rumblings

[MichaelF]

Immigrant explosion, or explosive immigrants....


Hmmm.

[Eoin666]

Immigrant explosion, or explosive immigrants....


Hmmm.

:) good one

[BigBaribal]

What next, state organized ethnic cleansing of middle-age white britons?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=501483&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

[muttbutt]

Would you care if they were middle aged Black Britons?...no actually don't bother answering

[Thom]

I've heard you guys don't like Poles anymore... Good point is half the losers left the country :)

I've noticed alot of Polish in the hotel and catering industry and all of them have been really nice and polite, pity they'll be assimilated into british culture in 20 years or so :v.

But seriously, as soon as you start listening to a pop star for world views and politics then you're already lost.

[Red]

wow! bigbaribal is back? I thought you got gang banned.

As if we don't already have enough morons on Mp net.

[Eoin666]

I've noticed alot of Polish in the hotel and catering industry and all of them have been really nice and polite, pity they'll be assimilated into british culture in 20 years or so :v.

But seriously, as soon as you start listening to a pop star for world views and politics then you're already lost.

Isn't this pretty much stating the obvious, people in the hotel industry have to be polite, it's not a national characteristic

[Billy No Mates]

Manchester so much to answer for....Mozza talks a lot of ****e always has always will the trick is working out what he really means and what he is saying just for affect,i find it hard to he believe he couldnt hear a British voice in well to do Knightsbridge so perhaps the hearing aids he used to wear weren't just an ironic comment on contemporary pop,if British identity means anything i would hope holds a greater value than being "quaint" and "amusing" .

[BigBaribal]

http://images.morrissey-solo.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thesun_3_12_07.jpg

http://images.morrissey-solo.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thesun_letters_3_12_07.jpg

[CMNot]

The guy, frankly speaking, is a ****.

I welcome them. There is a reason why the British economy is still in growth - and it sure as **** is not the white-British underclass. Or white-British working class for that matter.

It's the poor bastards coming over here doing the work that the "too-posh-to-push" brigade won't touch. I'm glad they are getting passed over for benefits and housing.

[BigBaribal]

A very good description of a marxist point of view, the men, the countries only seen from the economical side.

The apparent paradox is that this view is shared at the same time by the globalist leftists and by the global big business, the banksters and their red useful morons working together, hands in hands for the destruction of the real nations.

[Billy No Mates]

Call it what you will but the fact remains that people are needed to fill the gap between CMN's too-posh-to-push brigade(and their worthless degrees in media studies) and the institutionalised unemployed who feel that they are better of on benefits to do some actual work .

[CMNot]

A very good description of a marxist point of view, the men, the countries only seen from the economical side

It is no more marxist than it is true-blue capitalist or laissez-faire libertarianism.

[BigBaribal]

"It is no more marxist than it is true-blue capitalist or laissez-faire libertarianism."


No, the "true blue capitalists" are open-borders guys, because they like cheap labor. This also means that the "open borders" leftists are not only politically stupid to be used this way (for the naive, but honest ones), but also real class traitors (for those knowing the facts).

Btw:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/17/nschool117.xml

[BigBaribal]

"...or laissez-faire libertarianism."

Also, at least, in a libertarist system, the working middle-class would not work for the state, getting money to organize the economical ethnic cleansing of the indigene people. There are for instance many young couples who cannot economically affort another child, simply because their money is stolen by taxes wasted by the state for the alien masses.

[CMNot]

There are for instance many young couples who cannot economically affort another child, simply because their money is stolen by taxes wasted by the state for the alien masses.

Could this be more unsubstantiated? If they could look past their own ego and insecurity, realise they don't need that Audi or new set of golf clubs to 'be successful', they'd crack on and get it done if they wanted it. I suppose that's the price of the proletariat :roll:

However...

The large, bloated Gov't is far too unwieldy, fat too intrusive and far too excessive. I will agree (on what you seem to be insinuating) for a desire to see 'small' Gov't and low taxation.

None of this in anyway relates to immigration or Morrissey being a **** though.

EDIT: I missed the post on immigration. Not great, but I would lay the blame at eh Gov't door, not for allowing access (although it doesn't state were people are from, and I will admit to discriminating against certain nationalities) to this country, but not having the spine to lay down rules in an efficient and applicable manner.

I don't have a problem if we have 10k schools accepting children in formative years with EFL; but 10k schools should be turning out the same children with the vast majority speaking English as a first language when they leave.

[Flamming_Python]

It is undeniably true that the UK is experiencing massive immigration and that immigration is straining the social and political fabric of the country.

That said part of London's charm has always been its multi-cultural mix.

I lived in London for 10 years. It is one of the very few places I could live in the UK precisely because it is such a wonderful cosmopolitan city.

As an economic immigrant into the UK I was profoundly grateful to the people of England for giving me a home and livelihood. They owed me nothing and allowed me to live in their country and thrive. I repaid their hospitality with respect, obeying the law and a certain loyalty (although I fail the Tebbit Test).

I can tell you my attitude was fairly uncommon.

I was regularly struck at how many immigrants I met in the UK hated the place. The exception seemed to be young Irish, who unlike the older generation really seemed to love the place and had ditched all the animosity of the older generation.

If I were an Englishman and I heard these ingrates boasting about how they rip off the state or castigating their host country, I would also want them out.

Additionally, if my countrymen ever start to cause chaos in Britain, I would support their deportation and restrictions on entry.

What is ironic that Morrisey is in Rome. Just today on BBC World they had a story about how Italians are kicking out Romanians (mostly Roma people) and demolishing their shanty towns after a Romanian crime wave propmted an extreme political response (deport them en mass) . They interviewed some Roman ladies and a beautifully spoken woman, speaking for a large group, explained how their dream destination - the place which they all knew was "socially enlightened" and jobs paid well - was Britain. Unfortunately, she explained, it is n ow very hard to get into these days.

I was oddly proud of my former adoptive country.

Well I myself have been living in Britain for quite a while... origionally from Russia.

I appreciate this country and many aspects of it's system, but while in it I nontheless critisise it endlessly along with the majority of the Middle Class Englishmen who do the exact same thing.

Funny thing is, when i'm in another country I defend Britain tooth & nail :)

[BigBaribal]

Just great!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1028986_porter_quizzed_over_crucifix_row