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2RHPZ
05-18-2004, 04:17 PM
U.S. Afghan Special Forces Ordered to Shave

By MATTHEW ROSENBERG
.c The Associated Press

BAGRAM, Afghanistan (Sept. 12) - Out came the razors and off went the
beards this week for special operations troops at camps and safe
houses throughout Afghanistan as soldiers complied with new orders
requiring them to shed their local look in return for clean-cut
military appearance.

The order came Sept. 6 and was supposed to go into effect by noon the
next day, according to special operations soldiers operating in
southeastern Afghanistan.

Officials at Bagram Air Base, the U.S. military headquarters in
Afghanistan, were not immediately available for comment.

At the Special Forces safe house in Bamiyan, in central Afghanistan,
soldiers complied with the new orders over the past few days. Two
soldiers who had been sporting long, bushy beards for the last few
months were almost unrecognizable when they shaved all except their
mustaches on Tuesday, to the laughs of their colleagues. The last
holdout shaved his Fu Manchu mustache early Thursday morning.

Since the beginning of the U.S.-led campaign in Afghanistan against
al-Qaida and the Taliban, dress and grooming standards for special
operations forces have been relaxed to help the troops blend in better
with the local Muslim population.

It wasn't immediately clear why the soldiers were ordered to return to
the traditional military standard for grooming and dress. Some of the
special operations troops said they'd been told that they did not need
to blend into the population as they once had.

They were also told they had to clean up because of increasing coverage
of the operations by journalists - especially during the weeks leading
up to the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

International aid organizations have complained about armed soldiers
doing humanitarian jobs like building schools or digging wells while
wearing civilian clothes and beards in an effort to blend in.

Aid groups say the practice puts their workers in danger because
militants looking to make a statement against the United States could
accidentally snatch or kill an impartial aid worker if they can't tell
the difference.

09/12/02 11:05 EDT

shrek
05-18-2004, 06:59 PM
This was in response to a retired general raising absolute hell after seeing the men guarding Karzai during his assaination attempt and noticing that they had beards and long hair. They then "tried" to force us to cut our hair and beards. WRONG! If anybody would do even a minumal area study of AFGH they would know that the "no beard, no respect" rule still applied. We simply went into the hills if a high-ranker came to the safehouse.

2RHPZ
05-19-2004, 01:29 AM
Thanx Shrek for posting. I have also heard that story you mentioned. Do you know what is the situation like now there in A-stan?

shrek
05-19-2004, 08:45 AM
As far as I know and from the pics that I am getting from friends, they're back to beards and long hair with traditional dress when possible. You know things like this always run in cycles. I heard this morning that they're going to investigate the 20 or so prisons in Afgh. now for abuse. This will probably expose the "bearded men" again and it will start all over!!

Khabbi
05-20-2004, 12:24 AM
whats R6 short for ?

Mark Sman
05-20-2004, 12:52 AM
If they try to crack down rthey should tell them they can't shave for religous purposes.

"My parents were Canadian and its the playoffs."

Gordon
05-20-2004, 01:25 AM
If they try to crack down rthey should tell them they can't shave for religous purposes.

"My parents were Canadian and its the playoffs."

Religious purposes as in their own religious purposes or those of the locals?

If it was for their own religious purposes then that argument wouldn't really cut the mustard with the generals and such because all those guys were probably clean shaven before they headed of to Afghanistan, except for taches I presume. If you mean for religious purposes regarding the locals then that is basically the same as the "no beard, no respect rule" shrek stated.

I don't know much about it, not being in the military and all but it does seem that the higher up staff can be more worried about image than actually getting the job done .... from what I have picked up anyway.

2RHPZ
05-20-2004, 02:32 AM
whats R6 short for ?

:D Sorry, I used an acronym from "bearded SF men" that was created by one of my friends. I guess it means "Rainbow Six".

moughoun
05-20-2004, 06:08 AM
I don't know much about it, not being in the military and all but it does seem that the higher up staff can be more worried about image than actually getting the job done .... from what I have picked up anyway.

You might not be a military man but you hit the nail square on

2RHPZ
08-04-2004, 05:07 PM
Opening old topic with this interesting contribution:

Special Forces Wear of Non-Standard Uniforms

by W. Hays Parks

Download (http://web.onetel.com/~aspals/parks-nonstandard.pdf) in .pdf format (503kB)