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china_police
12-04-2007, 01:26 AM
Developed by the same designer of the QSZ-92 pistol based on his earlier design.

NP42 is targeted at the export market, in order to satisfy overseas militaries standard, the developer re-designed the model of QSZ-92 pistol.

The 92 pistol's accurancy distance is on 25 meters, R50 value is smaller than 5 cm, the R100 value is smaller than 11 cm, failure rate is smaller than 2/1000, the life expectancy is 3000 round.

The NP42 R50 value is below 4cm, R100 smaller than 9cm, failure rate 1/1000 life expectacy is 10000 rounds.

The designer claims the NP42 is superior than the American M9 pistol,
double feed capacity of 15/10 rounds while the M9 is 15 round single feed. The NP42 firing rate is 365m/s while M9 only fires 390m/s.

At the moment, the NP42 is only availble for export.
I hope the Chinese military would consider adopting this pistol or to replace the QSZ-92 pistol in service in the near future.
Reguardless, it is an advancement for the Chinese arms industry.



Different varients for the pistol



http://img.bbs.163.com:88/mil/to/tongliaosys/1000x576_68148.image

http://www.warchina.com/upload/2006_10/061029193776041dotjpg


Shorter barrel version
http://www.zerose.com/attachment/29_1_75102c54743c6b9dotjpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0707/39_5847_11ddadc6570ab7edotjpg

Lucanus
12-04-2007, 01:37 AM
P226 copy........

Hippo
12-04-2007, 01:38 AM
sig sauer?

usm2b
12-04-2007, 01:58 AM
sig sauer?

But cheaper!

kilroy1911
12-04-2007, 02:08 AM
welcome to xerox country... they have copied almost everything in the world... from pistols to whole disneyland

Urquell
12-04-2007, 02:43 AM
It gets a bit strange when they have a guy they claim to have 'designed' it. It's a pretty straight forward copy of the current production P226, down to the last detail. It gets even more absurd when it's called an advancement for the Chinese arms industry.

Abolith
12-04-2007, 02:51 AM
life expectancy of only 3000 rounds???

asch
12-04-2007, 02:54 AM
life expectancy of only 3000 rounds???
ABS plastic?
p-)

BillySing
12-04-2007, 02:55 AM
The NP42 firing rate is 365m/s while M9 only fires 390m/s.



The rate of fire for this pistol is 365 metres a second?

Perhaps a translation error?

aziz_az
12-04-2007, 03:06 AM
When I first saw the post I thought China made something unique but this is a simple copy of western pistols.I agree with kilroy1911.China has a capability of copying everything in this world.

asch
12-04-2007, 03:06 AM
initial bullet speed, i think.

BillySing
12-04-2007, 03:09 AM
initial bullet speed, i think.

In which case, they seem to be bragging about a lower muzzle velocity! :)

asch
12-04-2007, 03:31 AM
In which case, they seem to be bragging about a lower muzzle velocity! :)
Ze great Chinese enigma solved
p-)

Flagg
12-04-2007, 03:31 AM
How much?

Sigs are quite pricey here in NZ

ADK031
12-04-2007, 03:39 AM
We have them here in Canada; http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/index-hg-P22X.shtm They make 1911s as well.

kutter
12-04-2007, 03:58 AM
I think China_police posted the wrong pics for the NP42. The first pic is right but the latter two are of the NP22 and NP34 pistols. This is the NP42 pistol:
http://www.norincoequipment.cn/detail_product_English.jsp?productid=485&cssid=1

aziz_az
12-04-2007, 04:08 AM
NP42, China self-designed combat pistol


do you really believe that its self designed?

Hippo
12-04-2007, 04:33 AM
in before some overzealous chinese communist comes barging in claiming that china is not the only country that copies stuff. The whole world and evil ameriKKKa does it as the JSF copied the wright brother's plane and the M1 abrams is copied from the tanks of WWI

china_police
12-04-2007, 04:34 AM
:bash:
I think China_police posted the wrong pics for the NP42. The first pic is right but the latter two are of the NP22 and NP34 pistols. This is the NP42 pistol:
http://www.norincoequipment.cn/detail_product_English.jsp?productid=485&cssid=1

Apologise for my mistake, I have now corrected it

aziz_az
12-04-2007, 04:40 AM
claiming that china is not the only country that copies stuff.


Its true.Now Iran learned from China and keeps copying every single Russian or Chinese weapon.Iran and China have nothing unique in their military forces.

china_police
12-04-2007, 04:45 AM
Photos of how it was manufactured

http://images.tupian.com/2006/12/b20061201101243_19_av6RKUdotjpg

~center~
12-04-2007, 05:22 AM
rofl 3000 round life expectancy?!!! Why would you advertise that?!!! rofl

Polyshot
12-04-2007, 06:02 AM
We have them here in Canada; http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/index-hg-P22X.shtm They make 1911s as well.

You don't know about the Lever Arms don't you?

http://www.leverarms.com/Specials.html

....... we hope that Marstar will bring them in at lower price, $599 is obviously a ripoff :bash:.....


This is not a copy of SIG P22X or anything, as it got rotary barrel locking instead.......

Frankly, if the NP42 is destined for export they should put an integral Picatinny rail on it, although I've seen pics of Type 92 in the hands of Chinese police officers with add-on M1913 rails:

http://www.swatpolice.com/92light/pistol92SF0004dotjpg

asch
12-04-2007, 06:04 AM
3000 for current army model. for this pistol is 10000 rounds.

Evolv5
12-04-2007, 11:19 AM
Its true.Now Iran learned from China and keeps copying every single Russian or Chinese weapon.Iran and China have nothing unique in their military forces.
Yet, they can still kill and are dangerous (the weapons).

Paulinski
12-04-2007, 11:49 AM
Norinco 1911 copies and M14 copies are quite good. The rest I dunno...

Jippo
12-04-2007, 12:50 PM
Even 10000 rounds is very small amount. IIRC M9 has service life of 30 000, and Glocks have been shot hundreds of thousands.

Gromit
12-04-2007, 01:05 PM
OMG... What comes next? A whole Abrams tank 'indigeniously developed by the ingenious Chinese arms industry'?

aziz_az
12-04-2007, 01:14 PM
OMG... What comes next? A whole Abrams tank 'indigeniously developed by the ingenious Chinese arms industry'?


why not? do you know anything that they dont copy?

Snoshi
12-04-2007, 01:15 PM
OMG... What comes next? A whole Abrams tank 'indigeniously developed by the ingenious Chinese arms industry'?
Why not? But it will have a "shorter" serivice life :)

Grach
12-04-2007, 07:50 PM
When I first saw the post I thought China made something unique but this is a simple copy of western pistols.I agree with kilroy1911.China has a capability of copying everything in this world.
No doubt, first human clone will be produced in China.

Metal
12-04-2007, 08:07 PM
I would be highly skeptical of anything of that nature made in China.
Raw materials such as steel are often of a poorer quality.
The design maybe the same, but the quality of the product would not be.

With such large troop numbers, I dare say quality is not a "key" feature.
Pump them out of the factories, as long as the bullet comes out they are happy.

EP24
12-24-2007, 03:26 PM
its look like a toy
u__u

ShanghaiExpress
12-24-2007, 10:24 PM
Anyone who thinks this is a Sig copy is a total moron. The people who shout "copy" the loudest are those who don't know anything and can't tell one gun from another.

This handgun is a rotary barrel pistol. There were no handguns of this type before this gun was made. Beretta has since produce one, maybe the Italians are copying the Chinese. :roll:

ShanghaiExpress
12-24-2007, 10:32 PM
I would be highly skeptical of anything of that nature made in China.
Raw materials such as steel are often of a poorer quality.
The design maybe the same, but the quality of the product would not be.

With such large troop numbers, I dare say quality is not a "key" feature.
Pump them out of the factories, as long as the bullet comes out they are happy.

Wrong. Norinco 1911s are renowed for superior steel and heat treat to all other manufacture. They were highly sought after by American custom builders before they became unavailable in the US.

makavelli
12-24-2007, 10:38 PM
imagine if they could copy any weapons in a glimpse with the same quality....
trial and error leads to perfection..

MZKT
12-24-2007, 10:40 PM
So what's wrong when chinese copy something? They save R&D costs, that's what capitalism is about, minimizing costs for maximizing profit.

Anyway, the whole world copied black powder and paper-making techniques from china, there is nothing unnatural when chinese now copy back.

Hollis
12-25-2007, 12:25 AM
Let's keep the pecker measuring contest out of this thread, take to Politican discussions and Rants.... PHOTOS...... section

Vaiar
12-25-2007, 06:34 AM
This handgun is a rotary barrel pistol. There were no handguns of this type before this gun was made. Beretta has since produce one, maybe the Italians are copying the Chinese. :roll:

The Slovakian K100 (in serial production since 2003) also features a rotating barrel. Furthermore, besides the newer Px4 the Beretta 8000 series (available since 1994) possesses the rotating barrel system as well.

ShanghaiExpress
12-25-2007, 07:22 AM
The QSZ92 was designed in 1992, at that time there were no other handguns designed this way. Actually there was a French pistol with a rotating barrel decades earlier, but QSZ92 functions differently. It certainly does not resemble anyother pistol in the world except in external appearance.

naivi
12-26-2007, 06:00 AM
http://www.warchina.com/upload/2006_10/061029193776041dotjpg




Well, close inspection reveals, that the quality and the engineering is very bad - like everything China tries to copy.
Just look at the poor processing of the material.
I wouldn't use such a gun, if my life depends on it.

greetings from germany (your favourite copy country)

Vaiar
12-26-2007, 08:26 AM
The QSZ92 was designed in 1992, at that time there were no other handguns designed this way. Actually there was a French pistol with a rotating barrel decades earlier, but QSZ92 functions differently. It certainly does not resemble anyother pistol in the world except in external appearance.

Question: why is the barrel of the QSZ92 sticking out? Is this due to the otherwise short barrel length relative to overall length, from which other pistols with a rotating barrel action (such as the Beretta Cougar and PX4) also suffer?

i.e.:
Beretta 8045 LAPD:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/1_%282%29dotJPG/800px-1_%282%29dotJPG

ShanghaiExpress
12-28-2007, 03:51 AM
Well, close inspection reveals, that the quality and the engineering is very bad - like everything China tries to copy.
Just look at the poor processing of the material.
I wouldn't use such a gun, if my life depends on it.
It's a military weapon, not a presentation piece. Chinese weapons usually don't have fine external finishes but are well made where it counts. Reliability of Chinese Kalashnikovs are typically superior to most Eastern European copies.


greetings from germany (your favourite copy country)
I'm not aware of any German weapons in Chinese service.

ShanghaiExpress
12-28-2007, 03:53 AM
Question: why is the barrel of the QSZ92 sticking out?

That is a model modified to take a suppressor.

muede
12-28-2007, 04:14 AM
I'm not aware of any German weapons in Chinese service.
Russians and Americans know lot about stealing and copying all things German. ;)

Cheers.

isthvan
12-28-2007, 06:02 AM
It's a military weapon, not a presentation piece. Chinese weapons usually don't have fine external finishes but are well made where it counts. Reliability of Chinese Kalashnikovs are typically superior to most Eastern European copies.

Not exactly, older type56 rifles were one of the worst AK clones around and they had plenty problems with build quality, reliability and corrosion. Later versions fixed that but I still wouldn't call them superior to East European examples(since they aren't).

ShanghaiExpress
12-28-2007, 09:16 PM
Not exactly, older type56 rifles were one of the worst AK clones around and they had plenty problems with build quality, reliability and corrosion. Later versions fixed that but I still wouldn't call them superior to East European examples(since they aren't).

Oh brother. Do you have actual experience with Chinese AKs or are you quoting from somewhere? Because what you wrote sounds suspeciously like an article which was translated into English for the first time, a few years ago, by me. The PLA had corrosion problems with the AK during the rain season in Vietnam. But so did everything else.

The Kalashnikov has been manufactured over decades and every country has had good production runs and bad. Early Chinese AK were actually of high quality, but this slipped in the late 1960s. Chinese AK made and exported over the last 30 years have generally been quite good and better than most Eastern European AKs. For example the magazines are built especially robust which offers superior reliability even after generations of use in Third World conditions.

AquaSol
12-29-2007, 08:22 AM
Russians and Americans know lot about stealing and copying all things German. ;)

Cheers.

I think you mean conquering and copying.

isthvan
12-29-2007, 10:44 AM
Oh brother. Do you have actual experience with Chinese AKs or are you quoting from somewhere? Because what you wrote sounds suspeciously like an article which was translated into English for the first time, a few years ago, by me. The PLA had corrosion problems with the AK during the rain season in Vietnam. But so did everything else.

The Kalashnikov has been manufactured over decades and every country has had good production runs and bad. Early Chinese AK were actually of high quality, but this slipped in the late 1960s. Chinese AK made and exported over the last 30 years have generally been quite good and better than most Eastern European AKs. For example the magazines are built especially robust which offers superior reliability even after generations of use in Third World conditions.

Yes I have. During basic training we were issued with various AK variants(mostly Zastava M70, East German, Romanian(they were also inferior to other AKs we had but not nearly as bad as Type56), Bulgarian and Hungarian AKs and two guys from my platoon had misfortune to be issued with type56).

All of them survived war, were heavily abused in training(by new bunch of conscripts every 3 months) and they were worn out as weapon used in similar fashion can be. Compared to other AKs type56 required hell of a lot more cleaning, they jammed frequently, magazines were PoS(spring problems so they were never fully loaded) and build quality was no where near to East German or Zastava AKs. Eventually they were replaced by M70s... Type56 were older variant that had bottom-folding stock and bayonet. I believe that they were produced during 80s.

Now I'm not saying that modern export variants are same especially since I have heard only good things about Norico produced AK for civilian market but I highly doubt that even those have surpassed quality of East European produced examples... You can say that they have the same quality and I wont argue with that but you will not convince me that they are in any way superior to those produced in ex. Yu, Poland or Bulgaria.

euthan
06-20-2009, 04:13 AM
what laser pointer brand chinese or other would fit will on the rail of np-42?

euthan
06-20-2009, 04:14 AM
what laser pointer brand would fit well on the rail of np-42 (9mm)?

Hammer_G
06-20-2009, 08:24 AM
I have 2 AKs. One Chinese and one Romanian. The Romanian's got better (refined) appearance. I've put more than 2 thousand rounds thru each one.
The Chinese one got "fail to feed" on a particular magazine. If I avoid using that "wrong" magazine, it hasn't jammed yet. Of course you could find better AKs but I think it's OK for that price.
The Romanian one got "fail to extract" once a in while and had nothing to do with which magazine I used. Maybe due to the weak extractor spring but I haven't looked into the problem yet. I choose the Chinese AK to be one of my home protection firearms.

RoyB
06-20-2009, 10:32 AM
Cool stories bro's, but that's a 2 year old thread..

euthan
06-21-2009, 01:29 AM
this is the np-42 thread is there a time bar for posts?

guide me to thread on laser pointer issues, pl

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 12:45 AM
The magazine of Type 92 pistol is "double stack double feed", which is common in rifles or sub-machineguns but rarely seen on handguns.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/92newdotjpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i66/ts_aln/92dotjpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i66/ts_aln/magdotjpg

However most of the handgun magazines are "double stack single feed" which is harder to reload. Does anyone know why ?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/maglula_upluladotjpg

TheBroncos
06-23-2009, 03:07 AM
The magazine of Type 92 pistol is "double stack double feed"

Makes no difference in a semi.


wow..this thing is back from the dead :bash:

Jiggy
06-23-2009, 03:11 AM
lol, new pistol ?..........

Eztyga
06-23-2009, 03:23 AM
lol, new pistol ?..........

At the time of printing it was...p-)

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 04:46 AM
The compact version of Type 92

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/19623dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/19625dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/19624dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/19622dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/19621dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/1024x797_116168dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/1024x771_201134dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/1024x762_206377dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/1024x543_74604dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/1000x708_107999dotjpg

euthan
06-23-2009, 05:31 AM
the compact version looks great..if only were available when i bought the np42.....

any info on the laser pointer that fits well in the original non-compact version?

RoyB
06-23-2009, 05:31 AM
Why do they always name their products Type-XX? get original.

euthan
06-23-2009, 05:34 AM
chinese do name the prducts. the type 92 was the QSZ-92 which was modified for export as cf98 and further modified as np-42.

type-92 comes in 5.8 mm and 9mm while the cf and np are 9mm only

euthan
06-23-2009, 05:37 AM
the mag is single row staggered feed...right?

Hazard1024
06-23-2009, 05:44 AM
3K rounds... Hey it's a disposable gun, just like those disposable cameras!

euthan
06-23-2009, 05:46 AM
what is the uplula mechanism?

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 06:33 AM
The official Chinese military name is always type XXX. I believe lots of soldiers (from the countryside) can't read English letters. Those English names are for export.

There were a few Type 92 prototypes using the "improved Browning style" locking system, same as SIG P226, Glock or HK USP, but somehow this Browning style was abandoned and then the rotary barrel locking system was chosen. I've read that state arsenal got vertical dispersion and durability problem while using the "improved Browning" method. Maybe material or tolerance problem ? Which I don't know.
Probably the rotary barrel locking is the best they could do at that time.
I'm not a gunsmith but it LOOKS LIKE (not sure) the front edge of ejection port would take lots of stress while using the improved Browning style whereas rotary barrel locking could spread the stress.
Anyway the wholesale price of Type 92 is only 100 some USD. I think it is just a cheap replacement for the aging Tokarev. Never intended to match up to SIG, Glock and HK.
However for 100 some USD, perhaps Type 92 is still better than those Saturday Night Special handguns at the same price range.

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 06:48 AM
the mag is single row staggered feed...right?
For compact version, the magazine indicator shows 7 (shots). It's single stack.

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 07:05 AM
the compact version looks great..if only were available when i bought the np42.....

any info on the laser pointer that fits well in the original non-compact version?
How's NP42's accuracy and reliability ? I think that's the improved version of Type 92 and the lifespan increased to 10 thousand rounds.
Is the internal firing pin safety added (none in type 92) ?

euthan
06-23-2009, 08:04 AM
accuracy is tolerable.
has a decocker..the pin safety... no obvious signs of that.

Hammer_G
06-23-2009, 08:44 AM
Firing pin safety is always located at the bottom face of the slide (where contacts the frame). This internal safety locks the firing pin so that it's OK even if you drop a chamber-loaded gun. When you pull the trigger, it also moves a lever to push up the safety to unlock the firing pin.
If a handgun got firing pin safety, it would be at the bottom face of the slide (as I know of).

Hammer_G
06-27-2009, 06:08 AM
9mm revolver. Not really a nice looking one but probably still better than the Saturday Night Specials.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re8dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re1dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/36960714dotjpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/U1220P27T1D337732F3DT20051214183101dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/U1335P27T1D337732F26DT2005121418011dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/0906191448fe8b7695caaa0e6fdotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re3dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re11dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re9dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re2dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re7dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re10dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re12dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re16dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re15dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re13dotjpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ts_lee1/re17dotjpg

Ought Six
06-28-2009, 03:07 AM
SE:
"Norinco 1911s are renowed for superior steel and heat treat to all other manufacture."Superior? No. As good as most of the American makers for a very low price? Yes.

Kicking Pinoy
06-28-2009, 11:59 PM
No doubt, first human clone will be produced in China.
and no doubt due to quality issues again we may find some "SHORT" comings

Kicking Pinoy
06-29-2009, 12:10 AM
Russians and Americans know lot about stealing and copying all things German. ;)

Cheers.
true... but they made the designs a lot better.... but the chinese... they just copy the heck out of anything... sometimes even the branding... ingenuity is something the peoples republic seem not capable of nurturing in their country.... so sad

DizBukHaPeter
06-29-2009, 12:22 AM
If I recall from SMGLee's thread, most of the AKs in the Navy Seal armory are from China.

Xiaofan
06-29-2009, 09:50 AM
P226 copy........


It gets a bit strange when they have a guy they claim to have 'designed' it. It's a pretty straight forward copy of the current production P226, down to the last detail. It gets even more absurd when it's called an advancement for the Chinese arms industry.

I just want to know apart form general pistol shape is there any other similarities between the pistol on the top of thread and the pistol here can be us to determine that pistol is a straight forward copy of the current production P226?

Xiaofan
06-29-2009, 09:57 AM
type-92 field ***** 9mm on top 5.8mm below.

Xiaofan
06-29-2009, 10:02 AM
P-226 field *****

Xiaofan
06-29-2009, 10:16 AM
do you really believe that its self designed?

Well personaly I do not think there is any firearm can call self designed, all the firearms we see more or less borrowed somethig form other firearms.

AK borrowed the double locking lugs and unlocking raceway from M1 Garand/M1 carbine, and the trigger and safety mechanism form Remington Model 8. M-16 borrowed direct impingement gas system form French MAS-49 and Swedish Ag m/42. We still consider these rifle self designed.

Hammer_G
07-01-2009, 08:59 AM
Swiss SIG P220 got a modified Browning style locking mechanism

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/220dotgif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/sig_220dotgif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/silder2dotjpg


Austrian Glock copied it.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/Glock_17_9mmPara_006dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/glock-eddotgif


And German H&K USP series
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/hk_usp_cutdotjpg


Also American Ruger P series
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/ruger_p89dcdotjpg


Brazilian Taurus
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/taurus_pt945dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/taurus_pt145dotjpg


And a number of other not-so-famous handguns...


Italian Beretta
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/pix930984562dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/beretta92fs_*****dotjpg



Copied that "up and down" locking block (under the rear end of barrel) from German Walther P38
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/walther_p38_*****dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/walther_p38_p1dotjpg



Chinese Type 92
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/92newdotjpg
copied the rotary barrel lock from French MAB P15
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/Slide-groove_Barrel_MAB-P15dotjpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/mab_p15-2dotjpg

Type 92's firing mechanism looks like SIG P250
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/P250-beauty-detail-4dotjpg

However the function is different. P250 is double action only whereas Type 92 is double/single/decock.

Type 92 borrowed here and there form other firearms, but not a complete copy from any particular handgun.

Hammer_G
07-09-2009, 07:31 AM
CF06
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/ts_lee/cf06dotjpg

Kicking Pinoy
07-09-2009, 09:59 PM
Swiss SIG P220 got a modified Browning style locking mechanism








Austrian Glock copied it.





And German H&K USP series



Also American Ruger P series



Brazilian Taurus





And a number of other not-so-famous handguns...


Italian Beretta






Copied that "up and down" locking block (under the rear end of barrel) from German Walther P38






Chinese Type 92

copied the rotary barrel lock from French MAB P15




Type 92's firing mechanism looks like SIG P250


However the function is different. P250 is double action only whereas Type 92 is double/single/decock.

Type 92 borrowed here and there form other firearms, but not a complete copy from any particular handgun.
you can say whatever you want... but the only thing good about the chinese is its food... anything else is crap

Arnie100
07-09-2009, 10:58 PM
AHA! I think I found it! Browning HP-DA:

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3540/hpdadotjpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/hpdadotjpg/)

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2645/bda9dotjpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/bda9dotjpg/)

Hammer_G
07-10-2009, 02:06 AM
you can say whatever you want... but the only thing good about the chinese is its food... anything else is crap
Chinese has sent crap spacecrafts and stupid astronauts into the fake earth orbit. Don't they feel shame ?

Mountain Man
07-10-2009, 02:13 AM
AHA! I think I found it! Browning HP-DA:

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3540/hpdadotjpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/hpdadotjpg/)

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2645/bda9dotjpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/bda9dotjpg/)

Pretty close.

And the comparison way above between the field ***** of the Chinese gun and the Sig isnt. The Chinese gun is field *****ped but the Sig is an exploded view.

Hammer_G
07-10-2009, 03:21 AM
and no doubt due to quality issues again we may find some "SHORT" comings
I suppose yours is bigger than the elephant's ? However your remark makes you look so small.