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Jaegermeister + Red Bull
12-08-2007, 10:45 PM
I am not sure whether they are authentic or replicas but they looked detailed enough. I took some photos with phone they are not very clear.

The medal on the left had what looked like a Tiger tank. It had the number "100" in the bottom of the bronze circle.

The medal in the center had a bat with out stretched wings.

Anyone have any ideas what they are? They could very well be just replicas or for fancy dress party decoration.

gaijinsamurai
12-09-2007, 12:28 AM
The decoration on the left is the Panzer Assault Badge, for 100 engagements. Authentic pieces normally will not sell for under $1,000. The middle badge looks like some sort of variation of the Spanish Cross, but I've never seen ones with red enamel like that which is shown. The third badge looks to be some sort of party award.
Be very careful when purchasing Third Reich militaria. Most of the stuff on the market is reproduction, and there are a lot of shady dealers out there.
A good forum for these types of things is:

www.wehrmacht-awards.com

GS

Jaegermeister + Red Bull
12-09-2007, 01:43 AM
Thanks, I was looking at that website today, quite informative. Yeah I realise there is a higher than average possibility that they are fakes, but saw then at this place called the Tender Center, and was just going to put a $5 tender on it and see what happens.

stoddy9311
12-09-2007, 07:55 PM
unfortunatley they are all fakes.

the centre cross looks like a war merit cross/spanish cross, but the handles of the swords are poorly copied.and I have never seen a Bat emblem:)

the panzer assault badge 100 actions, had a gold eagle above the tank, not silver.

the one on the far right is god knows what, but the eagles head is facing the wrong way.it is looking right, and should be looking left:).

Stukka 44
12-10-2007, 06:56 AM
I would strongly suggest you do not buy them, there are 100% fake.
Collecting WW2 German medals is very hard these days since there are so many copies out there. I've been collecting German militaria for several years now and only buy from specialized militaria dealers (I'll be glad to give you some good adresses if you want). Some good info on the topic can be found on wehrmacht-awards.com or in various books also, Forman's guide to Third Reich German awards and their values, being one of my favorite.
Cheers...:)

gaijinsamurai
12-10-2007, 10:59 AM
Welcome to the forum, Stukka44 (even though I see you've bee around a couple of months!). It's nice to see another militaria collector here.

Stukka 44
12-11-2007, 02:54 AM
Welcome to the forum, Stukka44 (even though I see you've bee around a couple of months!). It's nice to see another militaria collector here.

Thanks for the welcome. Are you a militaria collector yourself?
I mainly collect German militaria, how about you?

Greetings

Jarhead
12-11-2007, 05:26 AM
Welcome to the forum, Stukka44 (even though I see you've bee around a couple of months!). It's nice to see another militaria collector here.
One of the few;)
What does you collect samurai?WWII awards?
Just got the awards of my great-grandfather:)

gaijinsamurai
12-11-2007, 09:31 AM
I originally collected German WWII militaria, and have a few items. I also collect British campaign medals (Crimean War through Gulf War I) and uniforms. I have a few Soviet , Imperial Japanese, and WWII US Marine items as well.

Stukka 44
12-11-2007, 10:54 AM
I decided to post some snapshots of some of my collection. Sorry for low quality, pics were taken with my phone.

Enjoy...:)

dedbunniez
12-11-2007, 11:15 AM
How much is a japanese katana worth? My step-grandpa picked one up just after the WW2 IIRC. And was sitting round his house for awhile...

timetraveller
12-11-2007, 12:06 PM
How much is a japanese katana worth? My step-grandpa picked one up just after the WW2 IIRC. And was sitting round his house for awhile...

You can't put a value on them imo they are Priceless because the wrkmship is if the highest standard .. Hand made and each one is enscribed on the handle /blade

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
12-11-2007, 12:18 PM
nice collection stukka! ive always thought a good german WWII collection would be great to have

i was disappointed in my recent germany trip to not find any old DDR stuff while i stayed in east berlin, i didnt see anything that didnt look fake/reproduced

gaijinsamurai
12-11-2007, 07:46 PM
Nice stuff, Stukka!!!!!!!

debunniez, as far as Japanese katanas go, the prices range from under $1,000 to near-infinity.
Determining factors include:

1. Age/perod of manufacture
2. Swordsmith
3. Condition of blade (most important) and fittings (tsuba, menuki, seppa, etc.)

It is possible to find decent katanas, especially in the US, for bargain prices, if you are lucky, persistant, and have the money at the right time. A collector I know got his hands on an early Edo Period (1613 to 1867) katana, made by a respected and famous swordsmith, for less than $400 at a pawn shop. He was fortunate in that the seller had no idea what he had.

If you are serious about wanting to buy an authentic Japanese samurai katana, it is important to do your research before buying, as with any militaria purchase.

Jaegermeister + Red Bull
12-11-2007, 10:28 PM
Interesting to see all the replies, and Stukka that is a kick a$$ collection you got there.

I myself isnt a serious collector of anything in particular, just got bored that day and thought I will put a non-serious bid on them. They might go alright on my fancy dress pub crawl next Saturday night hehe.

Adam Wilhelm
12-11-2007, 10:46 PM
How much is a japanese katana worth? My step-grandpa picked one up just after the WW2 IIRC. And was sitting round his house for awhile...


You can't put a value on them imo they are Priceless because the wrkmship is if the highest standard .. Hand made and each one is enscribed on the handle /blade

Unless it´s a cheap Gunto Katana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_gunto

gaijinsamurai
12-11-2007, 11:09 PM
Even the guntos are increasing in price. I've got an Imperial Naval officer's Shin-Gunto on lay-away for $600.

SpecOpsSniper
12-12-2007, 12:27 AM
FAKES! Don't buy, The Tank Merit badge with the 100 as you describes is in Gold, not silver, and have never seen nor heard of a red enameled, bat thingummy. and Stukka AWESOME collection congrats. And for the rest of you, I have NO clue what the price range on original katanas are, but modern competition blades (laito for example) can get well up into the thousands, I know because I had a price estimate on a custom sword turned out to be like $1200.00 or sumthin...

Jaegermeister + Red Bull
12-12-2007, 02:01 AM
Even the guntos are increasing in price. I've got an Imperial Naval officer's Shin-Gunto on lay-away for $600.

GS, just curious whether you know 50-70s era Chairman Mao badges, pins etc are worth?

Just one of my completely random out of the left field questions. :D

gaijinsamurai
12-12-2007, 02:03 AM
Very, very cheap. They were produced for next to nothing, and handed out like candy. Don't pay more than $5 US for one.

Jarhead
12-12-2007, 02:25 AM
I see some nice stuff there stuka

Infantriesturmabzeichen
Allgemeinessturmabzeichen
Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber
Medallie zur Winterschlacht im Osten
Ek2
KVK
not bad my friend

Stukka 44
12-12-2007, 10:52 AM
I see some nice stuff there stuka

Infantriesturmabzeichen
Allgemeinessturmabzeichen
Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber
Medallie zur Winterschlacht im Osten
Ek2
KVK
not bad my friend

Thanks Jarhead, especially for you a few "closer-up" pics

Jarhead
12-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Nice to see the
Schutzwall-Ehrenzeichen and Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Okt. 1938

jorn
12-21-2007, 04:18 PM
verry nice stuff stukka.do you also know someting about stamps?

Kilgor
12-21-2007, 09:11 PM
verry nice stuff stukka.do you also know someting about stamps?

I don't know too much about stamps but, Hitlers face towards the left = bad, towards the right = good.

There is many of the left facing stamps around, they are only worth a dollar or two, but still a cheap collectible.

Stukka 44
01-02-2008, 08:50 AM
verry nice stuff stukka.do you also know someting about stamps?

Not really sorry, I've got like 3 that I got from my uncle once. I am more into German military equipment from WW2, medals, uniforms, headgear... that kind of stuff.:)

gaijinsamurai
03-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Here are a few items from my militaria collection:

SBL
03-28-2008, 11:17 PM
Here are a few items from my militaria collection:

That must have been a fun move.

msnger
03-28-2008, 11:17 PM
BRAVO! gaijinsamurai very nice collection :D

gaijinsamurai
03-28-2008, 11:20 PM
That must have been a fun move.

No, moving is NOT fun!!!!

Thanks, msnger. If you'd like, I can post a few more pics.

goat89
03-28-2008, 11:22 PM
No, moving is NOT fun!!!!

Thanks, msnger. If you'd like, I can post a few more pics.
Please do. I have never touched 1 in my life and most likely wont in my lifetime. I like to see them in pics lol.

SBL
03-28-2008, 11:26 PM
No, moving is NOT fun!!!!



I hear ya buddy. That's what I've been doing all day. Tomorrow too.

gaijinsamurai
03-28-2008, 11:36 PM
That sucks, Snakebite. But, I hope you're new digs will be worth it.
As for me, I just signed a new lease on my apartment, and hope to not have to move again, until I can afford to buy a house (which means I need to spend less on guns n' militaria)

More pics to follow.....

gaijinsamurai
03-28-2008, 11:56 PM
Okay, here are a few more pics. I'd display more uniforms if I had the space:

goat89
03-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Do you get them from the internet, collectors or go around the world searching for these stuff? Those are really great. If I managed to get one, I would immediately put it in a Cisco safe back home for safekeeping.

gaijinsamurai
03-29-2008, 12:08 AM
goat, I've obtained my stuff from a variety of sources: militaria shows, dealers (internet and catalog), other collectors, antique stores, and friends. As far as internet dealers go, I'm very cautious, and try to limit my purchases to things sold by reputable dealers with whom I've dealt in the past.

i don't collect much German militaria anymore. It has simply gotten too expensive. Same with the British campaign medals, especially the Victoria ones.

One of my recent finds that made me happy was a No. 1 dress OR's Gordon Highlanders jacket. I've had the Gordons kilt, stable belt, sporran, and glengarry for about ten years now, and was just lacking the jacket. I ran across a dealer/collector by chance in an antique mall in Salem, Oregon, and by coincidence, it turned out that he was a friend of Hollis.

goat89
03-29-2008, 12:11 AM
goat, I've obtained my stuff from a variety of sources: militaria shows, dealers (internet and catalog), other collectors, antique stores, and friends. As far as internet dealers go, I'm very cautious, and try to limit my purchases to things sold by reputable dealers with whom I've dealt in the past.

i don't collect much German militaria anymore. It has simply gotten too expensive. Same with the British campaign medals, especially the Victoria ones.

One of my recent finds that made me happy was a No. 1 dress OR's Gordon Highlanders jacket. I've had the Gordons kilt, stable belt, sporran, and glengarry for about ten years now, and was just lacking the jacket. I ran across a dealer/collector by chance in an antique mall in Salem, Oregon, and by coincidence, it turned out that he was a friend of Hollis.

1) Will keep that in mind. Dont think there is much in Vanouver though.
2) amn! Really? Small world lol.

gaijinsamurai
03-29-2008, 12:19 AM
There might be some stuff in Vancouver, especially if you are interested in British/Commonwealth pieces.

goat89
03-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Will search around. Will also let you guys know if I get one. ;)

gaijinsamurai
03-29-2008, 12:25 AM
Please do!!

Anything in particular you're looking for? Perhaps I can help.

goat89
03-29-2008, 12:27 AM
Woah... erm... like medals, patches, insignias (metallic), manuals (the cartoon Tiger tank one is awesome). I intend to keep them till I die and then donate to a musuem. Will be in my will. Serious.

gaijinsamurai
03-29-2008, 12:32 AM
My son will get my stuff.

Check this site out:

www.wehrmacht-awards.com

Look at their discussion forum.

goat89
03-29-2008, 12:34 AM
My son will get my stuff.

Check this site out:

www.wehrmacht-awards.com (http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com)

Look at their discussion forum.
Thats good!
Cheers for the website!

Jarhead
03-29-2008, 05:58 AM
Pretty nice stuff Andy.
I also had a old Gimnasterka (WW 2 russian uniform) but I sold it last year.
Thumbs up for that collection.

Thats some of my collection, most of the stuff are my Great-granddads awards and documents. He was fighting in Africa and later in Sicily and Italy.He was also awarded for the Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz but the award and the document is lost.

I have also more than 100 pics from Africa as well es some Reichswehr and SA photos.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/OrdenUrkunden1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/KrimschildInfanteriesturmabzeicheni.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/InfanteriesturmabzeichenSilberKrims.jpg

Some of my great-grandmoms ID-Cards. She was a Luftwaffen-Helferin in the War.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/KennkarteDAFBerufsausweisminiaturLu.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/KennkarteundminiaturLuftwaffen-Adle.jpg

gaijinsamurai
03-29-2008, 12:15 PM
Awesome stuff, Jarhead! Thanks for posting, especially the items from your great-grandfather's service.

ps: I like the pic of Eduard Deitl.

Jarhead
03-29-2008, 01:50 PM
Awesome stuff, Jarhead! Thanks for posting, especially the items from your great-grandfather's service.

ps: I like the pic of Eduard Deitl.

Thanks Andy, the Dietl post card was inside a propaganda bookled I bought on a flea market for 2€

some more shots. A old photo album from my great-grandmom. The propaganda bookled from the flea marked and a old wehrmacht song book.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/FotoalbumSoldatenglaube-Soldatenehr.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/Soldatenglaube-SoldatenehreMorgenma.jpg
SS-oath from the bookled
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/SS-Schwur.jpg

goat89
03-29-2008, 02:54 PM
Damn... this is getting me riled up! Gotta go to the flea market in Vancouver!

Jarhead
04-11-2008, 12:07 PM
My latest onep-) Nothing special but still a beautiful medal.
"Medaille zur Winterschlacht im Osten" manufactured by Moritz Hausch A.G. Pforzheim / manufacturer code 127

If you want I could also post pics of the German-Italian campaign in Africa medal

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/VerleihungstteOstmedailleundOstmeda.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/OstmedailleTyp2Hersteller127MoritzH.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/MilitaryCollector/Military/OstmedailleTyp2Hersteller127Mori-1.jpg

gaijinsamurai
04-11-2008, 03:46 PM
Nice! Thanks for posting, Herr Jarhead!
It's always nice to see the pics of your growing collection!

Jarhead
04-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Thank you very much Andy
Next month I´ll buy a EK I

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 12:54 PM
Hallo Gents, :)

if anybody offers you items like these DONT BUY as it is a fantasy fake piece.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:02 PM
What the hell should this be...
The Luftwaffenadler looks like a horse with wings....ugly as hell

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:03 PM
More Fantasy Pieces:

Recent arrivals on the iii reich militaria front.

Buyers beware.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:07 PM
It was not uncommon to engrave something on the awards.
Most of the time the represent date of the award was engraved.

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:09 PM
What the hell should this be...
The Luftwaffenadler looks like a horse with wings....ugly as hell


Its actually a poor copy of a very rare piece:

Membership badge of the German Academy for Aeronautical Research, supporting members badge in Silver.

The German Academy for Aeronautical Research was founded by Göring on the 24th 07. 1936 by an order made at Bayreuth, with the principle idea of giving the leaders of German Aviation a platform for the exchange of information.

The mini lapel version has been faked as well.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:11 PM
Didn´t know about that. But Iam not wondering about that this award was founded by Göring.

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:12 PM
It was not uncommon to engrave something on the awards.
Most of the time the represent date of the award was engraved.

Except between 1938 - 1945 There never was a uniface Iron Cross II Class!!

And any engraving on a uniface Iron Cross First Class was strictly privately done and never official issue.

These are fakes coming out of the old Soviet Union.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:14 PM
Yeah thats true...I was talking about that it was privately done. You can see alot of German Cross in Gold or silver with selfmade engraves.

gaijinsamurai
04-15-2008, 01:19 PM
That "Luftewaffe" fantasy piece was about the cheesiest piece of crap I've seen in a long time.

A militaria forum I frequent had a Youtube link of a guy who was bragging about his extensive militaria collection and his years of collecting, unaware that it was a bunch of repro/fake junk.

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:21 PM
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Didn´t know about that. But Iam not wondering about that this award was founded by Göring.

The academy was founded by Göring .

The Academy Presidents Chain of Office, was designed by Paul Casberg, a Berlin artist, membership badges were produced by the maker:Laurer of Berlin & Nurmberg.

Pictured above original Gold Membership badge.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the post Ranger.
Have you got some awards? If yes, it would be great when you would post them

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:25 PM
That "Luftewaffe" fantasy piece was about the cheesiest piece of crap I've seen in a long time.

A militaria forum I frequent had a Youtube link of a guy who was bragging about his extensive militaria collection and his years of collecting, unaware that it was a bunch of repro/fake junk.

This item in reality was never a military Insignia per se, it was a membership badge to a very limited number of people (218 in total) in the Gold, Silver, and Bronze Classes, of the Academy.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:31 PM
That "Luftewaffe" fantasy piece was about the cheesiest piece of crap I've seen in a long time.

A militaria forum I frequent had a Youtube link of a guy who was bragging about his extensive militaria collection and his years of collecting, unaware that it was a bunch of repro/fake junk.
This repro/fake junk makes me sick. I´m glad that there are a few good and serious dealers. I trust them.
Btw I took some new photos, if somebody needs a few close - ups to compare just let me know.
I can offer you:

Iron Cross Second Class with documents
Africa Cufftitle with documents
Panzer Assault Badge with documents
Italian-German Campain in Africa Medal
Infantry Badge
Krim Shild
Eastern Campain Medal
Wounded Badge in Black

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the post Ranger.
Have you got some awards? If yes, it would be great when you would post them

I collect mainly European Military Medals to the Ordinary soldier from most European countries circa 1813 - Post 1945. (Over 500 pieces) mainly Prussia and Associated States, Austro-Hungary, France, Belgium, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Serbia, Italy, UK, etc..etc..

I have a few iii Reich pieces and would be glad to post them over the next few days.

For now I will post this one:

For a Bavarian Soldier of WW1 and Service in WW2.

Prussian, Iron Cross II Class.

Bavaria, Military Service Cross 2nd Class with swords.

III Reich, Hindenberg Cross with swords for Combatant.

III Reich 25 year Faithful Service Decoration in Silver-gilt.

III Reich, Luftschutz II Class Medal in zink

(this is a replacement for a missing medal on the original bar).

Austria, Commemorative Medal for WW1 Combatant.

III Reich, Occupation of Austria, 13 Marz 1938 Medal.

III Reich, Occupation of Sudetenland, 1 Oktober 1938 with Spange "Prager Burg".

Hungary, Horty Commemorative Medal for WW1 Combatant.

Bulgaria, Commemoration Medal for WW1 Combatant.

The Luftschutz Medal is loose from the bar, but original as in, to the original type that was fixed to the spange.

The bar was purchased in the Bavarian town of Kempten, Bavaria in 2003.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:46 PM
Thats a really nice award-bar.
I´d be happy to see your 3rd. Reich awards.
Kempten is about 60 miles away from my home-town.

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 01:53 PM
Thats a really nice award-clasp.
I´d be happy to see your 3rd. Reich awards.
Kempten is about 60 miles away from my home-town.

I had good friends in Kempten, people I met when they were on holiday in Ireland, I went to visit for many years when on leave from the Irish Military, then in 1997 I moved to live there for 5 years, a beautiful area, very nice people, in 2003 I moved to live in Transylvania, but went back to Kempten last September 2007 for a holiday.

So which side are you from? Ulm, Memmingen, Augsburg, Fussen, Lindau??

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 01:55 PM
I had good friends in Kempten, people I met when they were on holiday in Ireland, I went to visit for many years when on leave from the Irish Military, then in 1997 I moved to live there for 5 years, a beautiful area, very nice people, in 2003 I moved to live in Transylvania, but went back to Kempten last September 2007 for a holiday.

So which side are you from? Ulm, Memmingen, Augsburg, Fussen, Lindau??

Connaught Ranger.:)
Good to see that you like Bavariap-)
I´m from the down in the south site. I´m living between Garmisch and Munich.

gaijinsamurai
04-15-2008, 02:28 PM
Nice imperial medal bar, Connaught Ranger!

gaijinsamurai
04-15-2008, 02:34 PM
Well, I was going to post the link to the Youtube clip to which I was referring, but apparently, the link is bad.

I'll keep trying, as it is worth it, for the entertainment value!

gaijinsamurai
04-15-2008, 02:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DolinPfFz8A&feature=related

Okay, I'm trying it again!

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 02:53 PM
I am kinda sorry for Phil.
Most of the awards he showed are probably faked. Anyway its sometimes really hard to tell about a few pieces. Think of some U-boat Ritterkreuzträger, they made their own crosses out of a piece of metal. Even some RK-träger received normal EK II. Juwellers made awards and so on.
All told....its not always easy to find out if its faked or not.

Connaught Ranger
04-15-2008, 03:21 PM
I am kinda sorry for Phil.
Most of the awards he showed are probably faked. Anyway its sometimes really hard to tell about a few pieces. Think of some U-boat Ritterkreuzträger, they made their own crosses out of a piece of metal. Even some RK-träger received normal EK II. Juwellers made awards and so on.
All told....its not always easy to find out if its faked or not.

A sound piece of advice is before parting with your hard earned cash on a rare iii reich piece which turns out to be a worthless piece of junk, do some very basic research, there are many books and many forums out their with some top-class info, there is no reason to be caught out if you do your homework.

And as for home made awards maybe in the very last days of the war but there was a certain standard to which the manufacturer had to conform as well as the guy who was awarded the particular medal in question. I have yet to see any period picture with homemade items.

The German III Reich Embassy in Tokyo had a stock of awards for u-Boat crews, Naval personnel etc..etc.. when their supplies ran low they had them copied from originals by Japanese Artisans.

Other III Reich Embassy's carried stocks of the basic awards as well, but the most important item for the Germans was the URKUNDE / Brevet of issue and having it written up in the relevant section of the pay-book.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-15-2008, 03:47 PM
A sound piece of advice is before parting with your hard earned cash on a rare iii reich piece which turns out to be a worthless piece of junk, do some very basic research, there are many books and many forums out their with some top-class info, there is no reason to be caught out if you do your homework.

"Thats true, its your fault if you don´t do a proper research. If you are a serious collector, or think about starting a good collection you should have some books. But thats the same matter with everything you start collect not only awards."


And as for home made awards maybe in the very last days of the war but there was a certain standard to which the manufacturer had to conform as well as the guy who was awarded the particular medal in question. I have yet to see any period picture with homemade items.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron_cross/2nd_1st_class/1st_class/ironcross1.htm

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron_cross/2nd_1st_class/2nd_class/ironcross_2.htm




The German III Reich Embassy in Tokyo had a stock of awards for u-Boat crews, Naval personnel etc..etc.. when their supplies ran low they had them copied from originals by Japanese Artisans.

"Thats also a true fact. Japanese made EK´s are pretty rare."

...............................

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 01:03 PM
CONNAUGHT RANGER'S COLLECTION:-

III Reich Military Service Medal Bar for the HEER.

4 and 12 year Service Medals.

Found in September 2007 at a "Flohmakt" near Senden, Bavaria.

The small label on the rear is the name of the Military Tailor

in Stuttgart who put the bar together.

I collect military medals of Europe, iii Reich pieces in my collection are held from a military historic point of view and ownership in no way

condones the actions of the mindless murdering thugs of the nazi party.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 01:09 PM
From the same "Flohmakt" in Senden, Bavaria,

Original Screen printed iii reich Armband on cotton:-

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-16-2008, 01:16 PM
You had found there some nice stuff Ranger!
I´ll try my luck on a flea market this weekend.

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 01:17 PM
FAITHFUL SERVICE DECORATION FOR 25 YEARS SERVICE:-

Often mistaken for a military award, but in fact its given for

good work ethic in civil employment, despite this, it can be legitimately found

on iii reich Medal Bars.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-16-2008, 01:21 PM
FAITHFUL SERVICE DECORATION FOR 25 YEARS SERVICE:-

Often mistaken for a military award, but in fact its given for

good work ethic in civil employment, despite this, it can be legitimatly found

on iii reich Medal Bars.

Connaught Ranger:)
True that.
I hope I´ll find a breat-bag or a Gasmaskenbüchse. A helmet would be also nicerofl

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 01:33 PM
FAITHFUL SERVICE DECORATION FOR 40 YEARS SERVICE:-

Given for the same criteria as above but to reward 40 years service in

civil employment.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-16-2008, 01:39 PM
Thats a really beautiful piece.
Also with the box...not bad my friend;)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 01:46 PM
III Reich Military Service Medal Bar for the HEER.

WAR MERIT CROSS, II CLASS, BRONZE, WITH SWORDS

&

GERMAN DEFENCE MEDAL OR WEST WAR MEDAL.

the latter medal was the lowest ranked of the iii reich

awards and always was placed last on the bar.

Connaught Stranger.:)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 04:05 PM
Another War Service Cross, Second Class, Bronze, with Swords.
This one without a ribbon :-(.

But Maker Marked "45" on the ribbon ring,

which stands for Franz Jungwirth, Wien, Austria.

Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 04:13 PM
WAR MERIT CROSS, II CLASS, BRONZE, WITHOUT SWORDS.

No Maker Mark, and Repro ribbon.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 04:24 PM
And yet another unmarked:-

WAR MERIT CROSS, II CLASS, BRONZE, WITH SWORDS!!

Narrow width original ribbon.

Connaught Ranger :)

Connaught Ranger
04-16-2008, 04:31 PM
And finaly for tonight, the poor cousin to the previous awards:p

THE WAR MERIT CROSS MEDAL,

awarded to Civilians for their effort in War Supply Production.

Sometimes seen added to fantasy medal bars, no serving German Soldier

would have had this on a military bar.

But it could possibly be worn by an ex-soldier, a veteran of the early campaigns.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
04-17-2008, 03:00 AM
Awesome part of your collection Ranger.
I like the KVK´swoot

Connaught Ranger
04-17-2008, 10:29 AM
As I posted before my small collection is mainly European circa 1814 - to just Post WW2. I am collecting for about 6 years.

Connaught Ranger. :)

Connaught Ranger
04-17-2008, 10:47 AM
This little gem is pre-WW2 issued under the new Reich to a part time fireman

from the German Area of Baden, for 25 years service with the part time fire brigade:-

The owner also was a veteran of WW1 having won:

the Iron Cross 1914, II Class

The State of Baden Military Service Medal of WW1.

and in 1934 he applied for and received:

the WW1 Commemorative Hindenburg Cross with swords for Combatant*.

* (Historically this was the first German Military Commemorative Medal Produced under the new Reich, with over 6 and a half million combatant versions being applied for.)

Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-17-2008, 11:07 AM
The Frozen Flesh Award / Winter Campaign 1941 / 1942:-

Late war manufacture.

Medal Packet is I suspect a repro.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Connaught Ranger
04-17-2008, 11:34 AM
Un-issued 12 year Service Medal (HEER)

the box is only for display purpose and not connected with the medal.

Connaught Ranger :)

Jarhead
04-17-2008, 12:05 PM
Nice second modell "Gefrierfleischorden"
Is it marked?
How about the paper....any manufacturer stamp on it?

gaijinsamurai
04-17-2008, 01:11 PM
Excellent collection, Connaught Ranger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Connaught Ranger
04-17-2008, 05:02 PM
Nice second modell "Gefrierfleischorden"

Is it marked?

How about the paper....any manufacturer stamp on it?

Hallo Gents thank you for your comments,

The medal has no maker stamp on the ring.

And as you know, paper never refuses ink. :-P

Another medal envelope I have doubts to the originality.

A West Wall Medal Envelope.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-18-2008, 02:26 AM
I´ll post a pic of the stamp on my "Gefrierfleischorden" paper, just to compare.
Its also made by Moritz Hausch A.G.

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 06:55 AM
Un issued Bund Deutsche Madel (BDM) Shirt arm triangle badge for Sud Schwaben.
Girls of the BDM wore black triangles with the script in white, these triangles were worn on the upper right arm of the BDM white blouse.
Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 07:12 AM
Unissued Deutsche Jungvolk (DJ) badge for Oberbahn 1 (Area).These Oberbahn Badges were worn on the left upper arm directly below the H.J. arm triangle badge. They were in use at least as early as 1934 and were probably phased out if not discontinued altogether at the beginning of WW2.

Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 07:26 AM
Unissued Reichsarbeitsdienst (R.A.D.) Service Unit Shoulder Badge:

They were worn by all personnel, but this particular type was to be worn by a Arbeitsmann up to Obertruppenführer on the upper left arm, the system of numbers or letters identifying the wearer, as belonging to a particular RAD unit or school.
This badge would have had the excess material trimmed off before being sewn to the uniform.

also shown the R.A.D. Capbadge:-

Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 07:32 AM
Third Reich Era Patriotika:

Penknife with Solingen Germany Stainless Steel marked blades.

Connaught Stranger :)

Jarhead
04-30-2008, 07:34 AM
Awesome BDM,DJ and RAD stuff Ranger.

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 10:05 AM
Original S.S. Totenkopf hat / Cap badge.

Connaught Stranger.:)

Jarhead
04-30-2008, 10:09 AM
Original S.S. Totenkopf hat / Cap badge.

Connaught Stranger.:)
Thats a good one. Where have you found it?

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Despite the initial look, what we have here are two iii reich "Black" Wound Badges. One had been cleaned down to the bare brass in an attempt to fabricate a "Gold" Wound badge.

The give away? No Hollow back Gold Wound badges were ever produced.:)

Connaught Ranger:)

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 10:17 AM
3, Reich Army Belt Buckle.

In Aluminum, showing maker mark under hinge.

Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
04-30-2008, 10:20 AM
Even it just a BWB it´s too bad that someone scraped off the painting.
Thats a nice Wehrmacht buckle...I´ll make some of mine but its without the Swastika.

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 10:23 AM
3, Reich Army Belt Buckle. Ground find here in Transylvania.

Connaught Ranger.:)

PS. SS Capbadge Flohmakt find about 9 years ago in Bavaria:)

with regards the BWB always somebody looking to upgrade historical items to make a few bob:(

Connaught Ranger
04-30-2008, 10:28 AM
Original Hitler Youth Buckle.

Chrome is starting to flake off and the catch is missing:-(.

Connaught Ranger :)

Jarhead
04-30-2008, 10:29 AM
SS Capbadge Flohmakt find about 9 years ago in Bavaria:)
Damn you....I wasn´t lucky to get anything on the last Flohmärkte. Nothing,nada,nitchevo.


with regards the BWB always somebody looking to upgrade historical items to make a few bob
Thats true...and there are also some fools out there who buy this stuff.

geistforscher
05-17-2008, 02:23 PM
I would like to invite you all to view my website as I'm certain that you may find it both informative and unique.

World War Two Paranormal Organization (http://hometown.aol.com/ww2po/index.html)

Please post your thoughts.

Richard

geistforscher
05-18-2008, 02:16 PM
Can anyone identify this stamp for me? I collect German and U.S. Second World War period postal items however, I have not seen this one before. Any help will be appreciated... thanks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=225&pictureid=2148

Bombtrack
05-18-2008, 02:19 PM
My guess is that it's a nazi stamp from April-September 1939.

geistforscher
05-18-2008, 02:22 PM
Here's a nice early two piece version of this badge from my collection.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2152

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2177

geistforscher
05-18-2008, 02:27 PM
My guess is that it's a nazi stamp from April-September 1939.
Problem is that there's no denomination on it?

gaijinsamurai
05-18-2008, 11:03 PM
Here are a couple more photos of pieces from my collection: Luftewaffe headgear and a Heer walking out dress jacket and cover for an infantryman.

Connaught Ranger
05-19-2008, 02:42 AM
Here's a nice early two piece version of this badge from my collection.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2152

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2177

Fantasy piece, made from a repro capbage and wreath.

Whats it supposed to represent?? a Police Badge??:roll:

Connaught Ranger.

Connaught Ranger
05-19-2008, 02:45 AM
Can anyone identify this stamp for me? I collect German and U.S. Second World War period postal items however, I have not seen this one before. Any help will be appreciated... thanks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=225&pictureid=2148

Try posting on a Stamp-collectors website, but, as its got the months April September, it could be for a work-pension contibution, etc..etc.. rather than a postal stamp.

Connaught Ranger.:)

geistforscher
05-19-2008, 10:06 AM
Fantasy piece, made from a repro capbage and wreath.

Whats it supposed to represent?? a Police Badge??:roll:

Connaught Ranger.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

Your opinion has been duley noted and filed appropriately. I presume it is expert in nature?


Produced from 1933/1936 to 1945 ... During the first (early) years the Officers and Generals Police visor cap badges were of two piece, die stamped construction. Not as such for the rank and file; the rank and file were of one piece construction. In later years all ranks of the German Police wore one piece constructed visor cap badges and are what most collectors have and what you see at militaria shows today along with the reproductions.


Most of these badges that you see today and probably for the past forty or so years are the cheesy one piece bright aluminum ones that look like they were just made, the ones that you my friend have referenced. You most likely have one of these or one of the duller bogus ones in your collection.


This badge should not be confused with the German Military Police Visor Cap Badges, which I believe were consistant with their branch of service.

How quick we rush to judgement! Possibly you would like the measurements and weight?

If you go to this link you will see several versions of the one piece constructed German Police visor cap badges http://www.germanmilitaria.com/WaffenSS/08PolizeiCloth.html

geistforscher
05-19-2008, 10:14 AM
Try posting on a Stamp-collectors website, but, as its got the months April September, it could be for a work-pension contibution, etc..etc.. rather than a postal stamp.

Connaught Ranger.:)


Just thought someone here may know.

Bombtrack
05-19-2008, 11:41 AM
Problem is that there's no denomination on it?

Looks like the Iron Eagle might be crapping out an "8".

STuG
05-19-2008, 05:23 PM
Just thought someone here may know.


These were never my primary interest when it came to documents of the era, but this style of stamp (with design differences naturally) was indeed used to denote the owner had paid the dues to the relevant organisation and was in "good standing" in the paperwork of DAF,NSDAP etc.

Judging by the design this has DRL connotations. Most had organisation specific designs.

It isn't a postal service stamp.

geistforscher
05-19-2008, 05:38 PM
These were never my primary interest when it came to documents of the era, but this style of stamp (with design differences naturally) was indeed used to denote the owner had paid the dues to the relevant organisation and was in "good standing" in the paperwork of DAF,NSDAP etc.

Judging by the design this has DRL connotations. Most had organisation specific designs.

It isn't a postal service stamp.
Great, appreciate your response ... thanks

geistforscher
05-19-2008, 06:02 PM
Here's a nice little jem that I'm certain will creat some discussion http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2282

Polygon
05-19-2008, 08:29 PM
Even it just a BWB it´s too bad that someone scraped off the painting.
Thats a nice Wehrmacht buckle...I´ll make some of mine but its without the Swastika.

Yeah, it seems like this was generally pretty common with the buckles. The nice thing is that they are cheaply had for the most part. I have about 4-5 of these buckles and usually, denazified Heer buckles cost between $35-$45.

simple jumper
05-20-2008, 12:15 AM
Here's a nice little jem that I'm certain will creat some discussion http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2282

Sorry to burst the bubble, most believe these to be fantasy pieces as none were ever issued or photographed. If they did exist it was late war and not recorded in any manual.

simple jumper
05-20-2008, 12:17 AM
Correction, there is a chance. Courtesy of the WAF:
Institution date of the award:

12 Jan 45

Criteria was for the successful shooting down of an enemy aircraft with a hand held weapon.

Found this website:

http://axisawards.homestead.com/ribbons.html

It contains a 57 version of the ADB, so therefore in My opinion, if there is a 57 version of it, it MUST have officially existed...

This book contains a brief paragraph about the ADB:

http://books.google.com/books?id=8RT...hl=en#PPA38,M1

The well researched and much respected feldgrau website lists it as an official award as well:

http://www.feldgrau.com/awards.html

My book "Waffen-SS Uniforms in Colour Photographs" by Andrew Steven & Peter Amodio says that a few were officially awarded, but does not give any further info unfortunately.

link: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2553541

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 01:09 AM
While the nazi Tieffligervernichtung or High Altitude aircraft destruction badge (for Anti Aircraft Gun Crews), was authorised for production, it still has to be confirmed if and when it went into production.

I have yet to see a wartime picture with it in wear, or even being presented and the unwritten rule, with regards collecting Third Reich Military is an objects stays in the "Doubtfull Catagory" until photographic evidence is provided!

On thing that became quite common particularly near the end of the war, items were authorised on paper at local level, for many awards, even though no awards were on hand to be issued, due to supply, or the location when the Urkünde was written up.

Connaught Ranger

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 01:19 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

Your opinion has been duley noted and filed appropriately. I presume it is expert in nature?


Produced from 1933/1936 to 1945 ... During the first (early) years the Officers and Generals Police visor cap badges were of two piece, die stamped construction. Not as such for the rank and file; the rank and file were of one piece construction. In later years all ranks of the German Police wore one piece constructed visor cap badges and are what most collectors have and what you see at militaria shows today along with the reproductions.


Most of these badges that you see today and probably for the past forty or so years are the cheesy one piece bright aluminum ones that look like they were just made, the ones that you my friend have referenced. You most likely have one of these or one of the duller bogus ones in your collection.


This badge should not be confused with the German Military Police Visor Cap Badges, which I believe were consistant with their branch of service.

How quick we rush to judgement! Possibly you would like the measurements and weight?

If you go to this link you will see several versions of the one piece constructed German Police visor cap badges http://www.germanmilitaria.com/WaffenSS/08PolizeiCloth.html

Funny how quickly you removed the picture from your post? are you afraid that your own item will not stand up to close scrutiny, and a link to a website selling iii reich items is no proof that your item is genuine in nature, nor is a copied and pasted description of a known Nazi item.

Which measurements and weight are you offering? the ones from your item, or the ones copied from a reference book??


But, I am more than willing to give it another opinion, only this time post some close up, detailed pictures of your item front and back.

Connaught Ranger.:)

geistforscher
05-20-2008, 09:20 AM
Funny how quickly you removed the picture from your post? are you afraid that your own item will not stand up to close scrutiny, and a link to a website selling iii reich items is no proof that your item is genuine in nature, nor is a copied and pasted description of a known Nazi item.

Which measurements and weight are you offering? the ones from your item, or the ones copied from a reference book??


But, I am more than willing to give it another opinion, only this time post some close up, detailed pictures of your item front and back.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Once again you're mistaken and quick to judgement! The photos of the German police badge have not been removed. You are referencing my accidental duplicate posting of the coconut from a different thread.

My measurements of course. However, the site you mention does show that these, as do other badges vary within their type.

I would be most happy to present additional photos of my badge when my time permits to take them ... soon, so keep tuned.

Your willingness to offer another opinion would indeed be questionable considering your first rush to judgement one.

I would, as I'm certain that others would also, be interested in how many variations you have of a German police badge in you collection?http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 10:36 AM
Once again you're mistaken and quick to judgement! The photos of the German police badge have not been removed. You are referencing my accidental duplicate posting of the coconut from a different thread.

My measurements of course. However, the site you mention does show that these, as do other badges vary within their type.

I would be most happy to present additional photos of my badge when my time permits to take them ... soon, so keep tuned.

Your willingness to offer another opinion would indeed be questionable considering your first rush to judgement one.

I would, as I'm certain that others would also, be interested in how many variations you have of a German police badge in you collection?http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

One does not need to have many or even one of a particular item to know a fake or a poor reproduction when its offered for opinions.

And whats the baloney about
"The photos of the German police badge have not been removed. You are referencing my accidental duplicate posting of the coconut from a different thread." are you saying people do not know the diffence between a coconut and a "police" badge" when they look at there computer screen?? Your badge picture was there, then it was removed by you, and not computer Gremlins:roll:

I dont currently have a Tiger tank or Me. 109 in my collection, but I can tell the differnce between the real deal and a movie prop. Its by using a thing called field research and reference books, but, then again in your chosen field hard to find either, about a subject thats full of mumbo-jumbo.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Hollis
05-20-2008, 11:28 AM
Here's a nice little jem that I'm certain will creat some discussion http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257




How about knocking of on that smiley, Once is one thing, repetitive, it becomes a nuisance.

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Just to help out, here is your "missing item"

50056

50057

Pulled from the W.W.W. Ether by magic.rofl

Notice the sloppy solder around the pins and the general lack of quality one has come to associate with 3rd reich pieces, even, at the late war stage there was a strict quality control in place.

However it would be nice to see real close ups of the item, unless the owner has something to hidep-).

Connaught Ranger.:)

California Joe
05-20-2008, 12:31 PM
I've posted this before but check out my waywickedcool Nazi bayonet my Moms neighbor gave me....He liberated it.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/rghayes40/bayonet002.jpg

Jarhead
05-20-2008, 12:33 PM
Nice "Ausgehseitengewehr" CaliJoe.
Any marks on it?

California Joe
05-20-2008, 12:46 PM
There's no markings on the bayonet itself. The blade is chromed. I'm assuming it's a parade or dress bayonet...

On the frog it is stamped:

L A G O
WIEN & NIEDER---NAL ?
1 9 3 8

What the hell does that lanyard, pom thing mean anyway?

Jarhead
05-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Its called Troddel or Faustriemen in German.
It was worn from enlisted men up to the NCO´s on the bayonet for parade purposes or to the service dress.
Every color has its own meaning.

California Joe
05-20-2008, 01:07 PM
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Thanks pal.

Jarhead
05-20-2008, 01:09 PM
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Thanks pal.
No problem. I am just about to find out by what company it was made.
Is there maybe any animale engraved?

geistforscher
05-20-2008, 01:47 PM
One does not need to have many or even one of a particular item to know a fake or a poor reproduction when its offered for opinions.
There you go again, making an uninformed guess. From this statement I can only presume that you have none in your collection. If you do, please present it?


And whats the baloney about are you saying people do not know the diffence between a coconut and a "police" badge" when they look at there computer screen?? Your badge picture was there, then it was removed by you, and not computer Gremlins:roll:From what I've seen over the years some may not! Gee, I'm 73 and I can see pretty good yet ... go to post #111 on this thread and the photos are most certainly still there so I would appreciate it if you would stop with your baseless acusations!


I dont currently have a Tiger tank or Me. 109 in my collection, but I can tell the differnce between the real deal and a movie prop. Its by using a thing called field research and reference books, but, then again in your chosen field hard to find either, about a subject thats full of mumbo-jumbo.
Connaught Ranger.:)You're correct on that note ... What do you consider "field research", walking around a flea market and looking at dealers cases? There you go again, putting down a subject area that you know absolutely zip about.http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2292

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 01:58 PM
There you go again, putting down a subject area that you know absolutely zip about

Gee Robert, dont go putting yourself down, leave that for others to do, you should be getting used to it by now, despite all your PM of support.

How about telling us about your Dacau Concentration Camp Dog Kennel Padlock story, Woof Woof!!!

And for a combat photographer Korean Vintage, please do feel free to post some of your pictures, after all this forum is called Military Photos.net

Connaught Ranger.

California Joe
05-20-2008, 02:20 PM
No problem. I am just about to find out by what company it was made.
Is there maybe any animale engraved?

As far as I can tell, there are absolutely no engraving or proof marks anywhere on it.

geistforscher
05-20-2008, 02:31 PM
Just to help out, here is your "missing item"

50056

50057

Pulled from the W.W.W. Ether by magic.rofl

Notice the sloppy solder around the pins and the general lack of quality one has come to associate with 3rd reich pieces, even, at the late war stage there was a strict quality control in place.

However it would be nice to see real close ups of the item, unless the owner has something to hidep-).

Connaught Ranger.:)

After these comments Coconut Ranger you may consider doing some additonal research.

Here's some research information for you that you won't find in the "books"... Let's digress a bit and go back in time ... During WWII there was a small badge producing firm, I believe that was located near Berlin, and as the war became more intense there the owner moved his firm to Bavaria. The name of this firm was Sedlogic.

A very close German friend of mine who had been a member of the H.J. during the war, had gone back in the late 1960's early 1970's to Germany and had the opportunity to visit Sedlogic. Being that he was German and a former H.J. member Sedlogic said that you don't want to buy the junk I have out front, that's for the foreigh tourists and took him to a back room where he had special drawers of original period badges.

My friend purchased several of the wound badges however, he noticed that some (gold, silver and black) had what appeard to have had the finish touched up. Sedlogic told him that that was a common thing during the period, that some badges had flaws in the finish and that we simply used a gilt, silver or black paint to correct the flaws. He also related that this common among most producers. Also, that near a days end inspectors of the badges would be tired and let much slip by their weary eyes.

So much for your wishful thinking of quality control!

geistforscher
05-20-2008, 02:44 PM
Gee Robert, dont go putting yourself down, leave that for others to do, you should be getting used to it by now, despite all your PM of support.
How about telling us about your Dacau Concentration Camp Dog Kennel Padlock story, Woof Woof!!!
And for a combat photographer Korean Vintage, please do feel free to post some of your pictures, after all this forum is called Military Photos.net

Connaught Ranger.

Too bad that my names not Robert ...

You will be able to read all about the padlock in my book!

What vintage is your military service!

Are you sure that the fields are garlic and not something else. Either way, you're spending too much time in them ...LOL

Photo was from when I first went into the service. I never kept any of the photos, some photographers may have.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=234&pictureid=2294

Connaught Ranger
05-20-2008, 03:12 PM
Hi ****, :)

thanks for the correction with regards the name, old age must be catching.

So, the German R.Z.M. (Reichszeugmeisterei) had nothing to do, but let items slip by with regards Quality control in WW2, admittedly a very odd item could theoretically have slipped by, but it was certainly not par for the course. Many of the Inspectors were women, sharper eye for detail perhaps:)


A very close German friend of mine who had been a member of the H.J. during the war, had gone back in the late 1960's early 1970's to Germany and had the opportunity to visit Sedlogic. Being that he was German and a former H.J. member Sedlogic said that you don't want to buy the junk I have out front, that's for the foreigh tourists and took him to a back room where he had special drawers of original period badges.

My friend purchased several of the wound badges however, he noticed that some (gold, silver and black) had what appeard to have had the finish touched up. Sedlogic told him that that was a common thing during the period, that some badges had flaws in the finish and that we simply used a gilt, silver or black paint to correct the flaws. He also related that this common among most producers. Also, that near a days end inspectors of the badges would be tired and let much slip by their weary eyes.

Thats why you buy the piece and never the story from the seller, they will spin any yarn to make a sale.

I have just scanned through a list of over 135 known medals / Insignia / Badge makers of the iii reich, but so far no Sedlogic in there (which in itself is not unusual as not all Manufacturers are known, perhaps your "friend" he of the h.j. can recall the L/number (Leistungsgemeinschaft der Deutschen Ordenhersteller / Administration of German Orders Manufacturers) on the items. but, it might help for you to narrow the location of the firm down as Bavaria covers a large area I lived there for over 5 years and I had been visiting the area for 8 years before that 4 times a year of my military holidays.

As you are interested in my military service, I served over 21 years (1976 - 1997) with the Permanent Defence Forces of Ireland, as well as with the United Nations Peace-keeping Mission U.N.I.F.I.L. in South Lebanon.
I was qualified as an Infantryman, 84mm Anti-tank gunner and Regimental Signaler, as the Irish military is small many members are cross-trained in various jobs.

Connaught Ranger.:)

geistforscher
05-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Hi ****, :)

thanks for the correction with regards the name, old age must be catching.

So, the German R.Z.M. (Reichszeugmeisterei) had nothing to do, but let items slip by with regards Quality control in WW2, admittedly a very odd item could theoretically have slipped by, but it was certainly not par for the course. Many of the Inspectors were women, sharper eye for detail perhaps:)



Thats why you buy the piece and never the story from the seller, they will spin any yarn to make a sale.

I have just scanned through a list of over 135 known medals / Insignia / Badge makers of the iii reich, but so far no Sedlogic in there (which in itself is not unusual as not all Manufacturers are known, perhaps your "friend" he of the h.j. can recall the L/number (Leistungsgemeinschaft der Deutschen Ordenhersteller / Administration of German Orders Manufacturers) on the items. but, it might help for you to narrow the location of the firm down as Bavaria covers a large area I lived there for over 5 years and I had been visiting the area for 8 years before that 4 times a year of my military holidays.

As you are interested in my military service, I served over 21 years (1976 - 1997) with the Permanent Defence Forces of Ireland, as well as with the United Nations Peace-keeping Mission U.N.I.F.I.L. in South Lebanon.
I was qualified as an Infantryman, 84mm Anti-tank gunner and Regimental Signaler, as the Irish military is small many members are cross-trained in various jobs.

Connaught Ranger.:)

My friend is long gone however if you keep searching we may all prosper from the knowledge you may gain.

BTW how is your friend CJA doing these days?

CHERK
05-20-2008, 06:51 PM
Nice collections gents.

Collectors wars, lol, once saw two 60 + old philatelists going at it in a fistfight, you are all nuts. :lol:



Anyway was wondering…


Okay, here are a few more pics. I'd display more uniforms if I had the space:
Post #34

Who is a Lt-Colonel on the photograph displayed in your Soviet Medals stand and what’s the story behind it?

gaijinsamurai
05-20-2008, 09:48 PM
The only thing I know is that he is Polish. I obtained the photo through www.collectrussia.com (formerly known as "Atlantic Crossroads").

Connaught Ranger
05-21-2008, 02:27 AM
BTW how is our mutual friend CJA doing these days?


We don't have any mutual friends:roll:.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Connaught Ranger
05-21-2008, 03:06 AM
Anyway to bring this thread back to topic,

Here is a rare document and badge to a W.W.2 Romanian Soldier who was involved in the Crimea Campaign with the Germans.

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Awarded to Soldat Maris N. Trian who joined the Romanian Military in 1936, First serving with Reg 5 Vanatori (Mountain Jagers).
His first award was for the:

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Romanian, "Medalia Centenarului Regelui Carol I"
Romanian, Centennial Medal of King Carol I.

Later, while serving with the Romanian Regimentul 92 Infanterie, for bravery and unselfish spirit of sacrifice, he was awarded the:

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Romanian, "Serviciul Credincious cu spade clasa 1-a"

Romanian, Faithful Service Cross with Swords, I Class.

The small picture of the soldier, was removed by him from his Romanian Royalist Army Pay book, which would have listed his service campaigns, including combat against the Soviets Forces, possession of these documents were not viewed very favorably by the Soviet occupying power.

He was wounded in the legs near the end of the war in 1944, when the Soviets occupied Romania, and was sent to recuperate at the "Baie Herculane" Spa resort. For him his time of military service was over and he missed having to change sides and fight with the Soviets against the Germans, Hungarians and Czechoslovakian Forces.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Jarhead
05-21-2008, 03:13 AM
It almost looks like the Krimshild is on Luftwaffentuch.
Have you got a better pic Ranger?

Connaught Ranger
05-21-2008, 03:44 AM
It almost looks like the Krimshild is on Luftwaffentuch.
Have you got a better pic Ranger?

As Requested:-

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The fabric is a green-grey colour in natural daylight.

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Connaught Ranger:)

Jarhead
05-21-2008, 03:47 AM
Thanks for the fast reply.
Its definitely on Heerestuch.
Nice condition.woot

Connaught Ranger
05-21-2008, 07:37 AM
Post Card showing the Military Hospital at the spa town of Baile Herculane where Romanian Soldat Maris went for rest and recuperation from his wounds.

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Connaught Ranger:)

gaijinsamurai
05-21-2008, 08:50 AM
Nice stuff, Connaught Ranger!

geistforscher
05-21-2008, 09:41 AM
We don't have any mutual friends:roll:.

Connaught Ranger.:)

Oops!!! http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2257

geistforscher
05-21-2008, 10:12 AM
I don't believe that you find many of these combinations with the provenance this has.


TYPEWRITTEN INSCRIPTION AT BOTTOM STATES



TO: MY GOOD FRIEND HOMER SPIVA


"This Eagle (mounted at top of frame) carried me safely through the war with Japan. On my promotion to Brig. Gen. I want you to accept it as a symbol of affection and friendship"


(Signed) Walter J. Hanna, Brig. Gen. 31st. Div. D D ( D D refers to Dixie Division)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=224&pictureid=2316

Eztyga
05-21-2008, 10:24 AM
How much is a japanese katana worth? My step-grandpa picked one up just after the WW2 IIRC. And was sitting round his house for awhile...

Depends on wether it was an old sword handed down the family for centuries, or one of the mass produced models made during WW2.

Ezy

CHERK
05-24-2008, 02:15 PM
The only thing I know is that he is Polish. I obtained the photo through www.collectrussia.com (http://www.collectrussia.com) (formerly known as "Atlantic Crossroads").

Got it, thanks.

Connaught Ranger
05-24-2008, 02:23 PM
Gentlemen:)

with regards these Japanese WW2 swords, take great care, many are being faked in China and offered on ebay, others are being shipped into Russia and sold from there, supposedly captured during the 1945 Russian Manchurian campaign.

As with WW2 medals and insignia, research is vital, before you part with your money.

Connaught Ranger:)

deagle
05-24-2008, 04:14 PM
just make sure they're authentic. if seriously about buying/trading, make sure you have a reputable analyst to confirm (both parties will benefit).

Connaught Ranger
05-24-2008, 05:25 PM
just make sure they're authentic. if seriously about buying/trading, make sure you have a reputable analyst to confirm (both parties will benefit).

When buying out of China, and there can be a hundred or so items "All Original" as all originally made over the last year:p on ebay, the seller offers a 14 day money back guarantee from date of posting out:roll:.

The start price is as much as 5 dollars US, but the postage costs are enormous, once they have your money I doubt you will be able to get anything back.

Connaught Ranger.:)

gaijinsamurai
05-25-2008, 12:47 AM
I bought one of my katanas from this guy. He is trustworthy and knows what he's doing.

http://www.japanesesword.com/

A lot of things can determine the worth of a katana. Primarily:

1: Age
2: condition
3: swordsmith

The biggest differences in swords are those that were mass-produced during WWII, using stainless steel, versus hand-forged swords built in the traditional Japanese fashion.

Moniska
05-21-2009, 12:25 PM
Hi guys..
My brother have some german (ww2) and irish medals and some other stuff from ww2.Do you guys have any idea where and how could he sell them?
I'll be gratefull for any help.
Moniska

P.S.Some of them are real and some fake.;)

Polygon
05-21-2009, 02:00 PM
I would try eBay unless if the German medals you are selling have swastikas of any kind. In that case, I would try Wehrmacht Awards and sell it through that forum.