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Dave76
03-30-2009, 07:01 PM
US advisors 1961-63:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2536/cjpgusarmysargentantonidotjpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7944/usarmymajsamamatohelpindotjpg

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http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/32/usarmymajsamamatowithusdotjpg

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drunkpunk
03-31-2009, 04:58 AM
anyone who has a close up pic of VC pajama?

dewafrost
03-31-2009, 08:41 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8427/lrrpnam17dotjpg

the man on the right, what type of camo is he wearing???
is it 'ERDL' or ' Mitchel Dry Leaf ' ( the same type using for the helmet cover )

DnA
03-31-2009, 09:11 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8427/lrrpnam17dotjpg

the man on the right, what type of camo is he wearing???
is it 'ERDL' or ' Mitchel Dry Leaf ' ( the same type using for the helmet cover )

looks like ERDL

T.S.C.Plage
04-09-2009, 08:49 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71844&stc=1&d=1239280995
A shot taken from onboard an MSSC (Medium Seal Support Craft).

doxipups
04-09-2009, 09:52 AM
Does anyone know who these four guys are? I think the front right man is John Beckett - LRRP 68/69 with 4th Infantry 2nd Brigrade, but time changes everything. Would appreciate any feedback.
There very few pics of the actual troops involved. The link Karo posted is probably the best. Here's a few from that site.



Preparation for Insertion

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http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4672/slide4fv9dotjpg

Dave76
04-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Does anyone know who these four guys are? I think the front right man is John Beckett - LRRP 68/69 with 4th Infantry 2nd Brigrade, but time changes everything. Would appreciate any feedback.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2406/slide12km9dotjpg
That's part of the assault element ('Blueboy') From left to right: CPT Richard J. Meadows, MSG Galen C. Kittleson, CPT Dan H. McKinney, SGT Patrick St. Clair
No John Beckett took part in the raid.

doxipups
04-09-2009, 10:30 AM
I needed a dose of reality - He could be my Dad's twin.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2406/slide12km9dotjpg
That's part of the assault element ('Blueboy') From left to right: CPT Richard J. Meadows, MSG Galen C. Kittleson, CPT Dan H. McKinney, SGT Patrick St. Clair
No John Beckett took part in the raid.

kazparov
04-11-2009, 06:21 PM
thanks for the pics

dewafrost
04-11-2009, 08:58 PM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2536/cjpgusarmysargentantonidotjpg

i just realize now, the closest man with the beret is wearing the Mitchel Dry Leaf camo uniform...........

T.S.C.Plage
04-13-2009, 01:52 PM
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5508/johnsoncommandosdotjpg


At a secret base in Laos, Air America's Thomas "Shep" Johnson trained local commandos to set a wiretap. U.S. pilots flew them to the wiretap site, far behind enemy lines.

Source: Air America's Black Helicopter - The Quiet One (http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/the_quiet_one.html?c=y&page=1)

Zeev
04-25-2009, 07:42 PM
Airborne Rangers 1969/70/71

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YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 12:29 AM
Found some great Special Forces,info, reading, & pics on the B-52 project DELTA site. I'll try to post more pics soon.
http://www.projectdelta.net/index.html

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1747/baker3dotjpg
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General westmoreland visit 1965

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American recon advisors getting ready to go out on a mission 1965
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John Meadows from the Bob Hope Show 1965

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 12:34 AM
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CPT Leonard A Boulas
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CPT Boulas at Delta Compound 1965

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Col. A. J. "Bo" Baker

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 12:41 AM
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Maj Charlie Beckwith
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Maj Charlie Beckwith firing M-79
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L to R: CPT "Bo" Baker, Maj Charles Thompson, Maj Charlie Beckwith

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 12:47 AM
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L to R: CPT Tom Pusser (later KIA at Plei Mei), LT Julie Klebaum (Nurse) with Dong Ba Thin monkey, CPT Boulas
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1785/baker25dotjpg
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CPT "Bo" Baker (far left)

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 12:55 AM
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Lt. Billy Joe Turner donned clean camo for Easter egg hunt inside Camp Delta. Easter Sunday 1966.
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L to R: Lt Deaton Ranger Advisor, Capt Hoi, 91st Ranger Bn LLDB Commander, Maj Tat LLDB Commander of Delta, Lt Hamilton Ranger Advisor, and Capt Moore (Rear) Senior Ranger Advisor for 91st Ranger Bn supporting Delta Project.
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Delta S-4 and LLDB counterparts procure and supervise prep of Class "A" Rations for LLDB Rangers and CIDG troops supporting Delta operation in I Corp area 1966.
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Delta LLDB S-4 and US counterpart (Known to Recon troops as "Dip *****" Staff Officers) checking out who knows what near Chu Lai, April 1966.

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 01:11 AM
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Delta Road Runners
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Jim Spooner after receiving Bronze Star
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August 1966. L to R: Gene Tucker, Nathaniel Perry, Jerry Spicer, Chuck White, and Hugh Howerton.
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Tom Carpenter -photo was taken in Nha Trang August 1966

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2009, 01:13 AM
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Aug 66 - Sgt Jenkins from the Australian 22 SAS; Delta and 22 SAS had an exchange program during Aug and Sept 66.

Dave76
05-24-2009, 12:46 PM
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Australian SAS trooper operating with Navy SEALs

Gleipnir
05-24-2009, 04:38 PM
Great pics, especially the Delta road runners!
I was wondering if anyone had any information or pics of remote radio jammers that may have been used?

YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 12:26 AM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9085/humphus2dotjpg

DELTA (281ST AHC) Slick with Aluminum Ladder.
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Trucks found by Delta Recon and ambushed by the 81st Airborne Ranger Battalion (ARVN), Delta's Reaction Force, near "Ranger Junction", I Corps - March 1968.
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Awards Ceremony, Nha Trang, MAJ Robert May pinning Air Medal on CPT Thomas Humphus. CPT Edwards "Mick" Young is next to Humphus
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9437/humphus5dotjpg


Project DELTA Officers, Jan 1969, L to R: CPT Thomas Humphus (Sr Ranger Adv), CPT Steven Solomon (S-2), CPT Kenneth Wagner (Ranger Co Adv, behind Solomon), CPT Edward "Mick" Young (S-3), LTC Alan Park (CO), MAJ Robert May (DCO) 1LT Richard Thompson (Signal Officer, kneeling), CPT Jimmie Abla (Ranger Co Adv), CPT Hershel Webb (S-1), 1LT Chung Ki Ho (ROK Ranger), MAJ Terrel "Ken" Naumann (XO). NOT PRESENT: CPT Ernest Confer (Ranger Co Adv), 1LT John McGeehan (S-3 Air) 1LT De Lee Moo Young (ROK Ranger).

YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 12:37 AM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/858/khamduc18dotjpg

L to R - SSG Parsons, SSG Brakeman, SFC Simpson, SFC Strick, SSG Sheppard, 1LT Sullivan. Looking west at the "trimmed" ridgeline. You can sure tell a bunch of new guys with new hats. The brims haven't been trimmed down. It only took once out to take the hat to the Indian tailor in the compound at Nha Trang and have him cut off about 2 inches and hem the brim again. The wide brim restricted your peripheral vision. When you are being absolutely still and just moving your eyes in a 360 circle, the brim interfered with upward vision. We were told this by old hands but you have to find out some things for yourself.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3162/khamduc17dotjpg

L to R - SSG Parsons, SSG Brakeman, SFC Simpson, SFC Strick, SSG Sheppard, 1LT Sullivan Doc Simpson took Strick and Brakeman out for an overnight shakedown. Another "old hand" took Parsons, Sheppard, and Sullivan out; don't remember who.

YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 06:42 PM
U.S. Navy Seal Operations In The Delta

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YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 06:44 PM
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YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 06:46 PM
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YANKEEBOBB
05-25-2009, 06:48 PM
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http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/765/91325360dotjpg

Dave76
05-25-2009, 07:05 PM
U.S. Navy Seal Operations In The Delta

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3711840&postcount=3034

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3711877&postcount=3036

;-)

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Navy advisor pics. May have been posted somewhere before but who gives a *****.... :roll:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5840/navyadvisorsdotjpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4182/navyadvisors4dotjpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3803/navyadvisors9dotjpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4320/navyadvisors3dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 12:41 AM
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8676/navyadvisors7dotjpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/541/navyadvisors8dotjpg
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http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1006/navyadvisors14dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 12:44 AM
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/770/navyadvisors19dotjpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1035/navyadvisors16dotjpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6105/navyadvisors12dotjpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8639/navyadvisors10dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 12:46 AM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3576/s8jca0a5ay8caxe1zxvcaybdotjpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9445/404cagz6ospcatpxgfocagcdotjpg
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http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7563/z0pcaj511vfcaxw1h48capzdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 12:51 AM
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5080/navyadvisors45dotjpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9366/navyadvisors11dotjpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7171/navyadvdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
05-26-2009, 01:45 AM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2723/aviationdotjpg

BlackFlag
05-26-2009, 01:52 AM
^

Haha, that's pretty funny.

kazparov
05-27-2009, 10:56 AM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2723/aviationdotjpg

haha that's a nice one hahaha

Gleipnir
05-27-2009, 12:55 PM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5840/navyadvisorsdotjpg


Is that an M3 flash hider on his M1? and also nice flip-flops.

Wamba
05-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks for those excellent pics YANKEEBOBB!!!

JUNKHO
05-27-2009, 06:11 PM
Is that an M3 flash hider on his M1? and also nice flip-flops.



US M1 M3 Carbine Flash Hider Cone

http://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:7sKR69a2IIKIHM:http://www.keepshooting.com/productimages/firearmaccessories/add-ons/m1-flash-hider4bigdotjpg (http://www.keepshooting.com/firearmaccessories/add-ons/m1-carbine-flash-hider.htm)

Yupper. Didn't want anyone complaining about finding the answer yourself and also wanted to know for sure myself so went on-line to find one.

Agree - very nice pics!

Dave76
05-29-2009, 06:30 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/961/b56sigma01dotjpg
Detachment B-56 Sigma

Ravage
05-29-2009, 07:38 PM
Those "Life" mag scans are fantastic !

YANKEEBOBB
06-04-2009, 02:36 AM
Forgot this one....

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8465/g97ca1vhiktca6hm77jcaigdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
06-04-2009, 02:37 AM
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http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9407/pvn69dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
06-04-2009, 02:38 AM
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8043/1axcaelwku4cab1jjvzcaq2dotjpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9071/1969dotjpg
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YANKEEBOBB
06-04-2009, 03:11 AM
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US Army Special Forces officer Vernon Gillespie Jr. paying respects to French War Monument along Highway 14. 1964

Chris O`Crooh
06-04-2009, 07:38 AM
Is that Colt M-1911, pre-1926 modification? Interesting type of holster. Those "Life" photos are fantastic!

bravokilo05
06-04-2009, 08:41 AM
Awesome photos of Montagnards in this thread - keep them comming!!

YANKEEBOBB
06-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Is that Colt M-1911, pre-1926 modification? Interesting type of holster. Those "Life" photos are fantastic!
Yes it is... No 1911a1 "palm ****" on grip. Yeah I like that pic of Gillespie.

YANKEEBOBB
06-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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YANKEEBOBB
06-06-2009, 05:59 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/510/budopspecialforcescampndotjpg

Ravage
06-06-2009, 06:06 PM
^

Thats a rare pic of "Maggie". Awsome find !

Dave76
06-06-2009, 06:09 PM
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5595/dienbienphule01dotjpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9554/dienbienphule02dotjpg

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French paras before jumping into Dien Bien Phu

Ravage
06-06-2009, 06:17 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/510/budopspecialforcescampndotjpg

Speaking of:

"During the Vietnam War, she was made an honorary Green Beret because she visited United States Army Special Forces in Vietnam without fanfare, and she helped out when things got bad in Special Forces A-Camps. As a result, she came to be known affectionately by the Green Berets as "Colonel Maggie."

In appreciation of her work with the USO during World War II and subsequent wars, special consideration was given to bury her in Arlington National Cemetery upon her death, however, at her request, she was ultimately buried with full military honors in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Raye

Havoc345
06-06-2009, 07:27 PM
When I see the cigarettes in alot these guys hands, I think how could they stay so fit and smoke so much.

JUNKHO
06-06-2009, 08:25 PM
When I see the cigarettes in alot these guys hands, I think how could they stay so fit and smoke so much.

Many were young, had trained hard, and were in best shape of their lives and cigs didn't affect them that much
But many were not as fit as they had been in training and the cigs did not help (SE Asia as a location was an equalizer for all)
Some just sucked on them and then blew smoke without the inhale
In that time many more people, soldiers and civs smoked
It wasn't just the subjects in these pictures who smoked and performed arduous military activities. Soldiers of all branches on both sides did as well.

I could never understand how the soldiers of WWII smoked as much as they did and still performed because it seemed like there was more physical effort needed then because of less mobility!!!

Kadrun
06-06-2009, 08:44 PM
from ROK thread

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8800/20090606084159dotjpg

Gerry301
06-06-2009, 09:42 PM
Many were young, had trained hard, and were in best shape of their lives and cigs didn't affect them that much
But many were not as fit as they had been in training and the cigs did not help (SE Asia as a location was an equalizer for all)
Some just sucked on them and then blew smoke without the inhale
In that time many more people, soldiers and civs smoked
It wasn't just the subjects in these pictures who smoked and performed arduous military activities. Soldiers of all branches on both sides did as well.

I could never understand how the soldiers of WWII smoked as much as they did and still performed because it seemed like there was more physical effort needed then because of less mobility!!!

Probobly because you have been brought up in a society that believes smoking is worse than 'heroin' or so evil that everyone dies at a very young age while not being able to breath due to smoking. (none of which is true)

ferguson
06-08-2009, 03:11 PM
Interesting pic of Col Maggie and guys.

That was taken at my camp. Think I was in hospital at the time.
Were you on the team?
I was there Aug 68-Feb 70.
Team medic on left next to a leg intel guy from B 57.
CRS other guys names. Guy on right was Hvy Wpns.

YANKEEBOBB
06-09-2009, 12:13 AM
Interesting pic of Col Maggie and guys.
That was taken at my camp. Think I was in hospital at the time.
Were you on the team?


No, I wasn't there just found the pic and haven't seen it before so I posted it. I always had alot of respect for Maggie for all she did.

As far as the pic, all I know is it was taken at Bu Dop Special Forces Camp, November, 1969.

Is that you in the above pic?

YANKEEBOBB
06-09-2009, 12:18 AM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/160/post11214103782dotjpg

ferguson
06-10-2009, 02:42 PM
I contacted the medic and he says it is his owm picture published on his own web sight.
It names the folks in the pic, including the monkey.

He is not making a federal case, but credit needs to be given if you are going to be using other people's pictures.
One funny thing is that one of those guys is "original manifest" SF.
He was recruited under the Lodge Act and is a very famous person in his own right.

This is a team pic, same period. My pic, no strings attatched.
Also Col Maggie from public archives

YANKEEBOBB
06-10-2009, 07:37 PM
I never went to his website, if I did I would've posted the info. Not trying to piss anybody off but these pics are all over the web. I see pics that I personally scanned and posted here all over the place.

Kadrun
06-11-2009, 07:30 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3995/20090610143146dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
06-12-2009, 08:30 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3995/20090610143146dotjpg

Are these guys Koreans?

YANKEEBOBB
06-12-2009, 08:32 PM
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YANKEEBOBB
06-12-2009, 08:41 PM
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PJ James Thomas KIA 25 Nov 1971
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PJ **** Stiefken demonstrates stokes litter pickup
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PJ Crew of Jolly on Sept. 4, 1969
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7249/unknownhh43sarpjwithbacdotjpg

Unknown HH-43 SAR. PJ with back to camera is Larry Nicholson.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4200/196768pjmccombdotjpg

Kadrun
06-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Are these guys Koreans?

Yes sir. Ready to be deployed to 'Nam in Pusan port.

YANKEEBOBB
06-12-2009, 09:24 PM
Thanks! Cool camo...

YANKEEBOBB
06-13-2009, 12:25 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/171/scan0010sdotjpg
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Cnoyes
06-13-2009, 03:18 PM
The above referenced photo of some of the A-341 Bu Dop SF Team members and Ms. Martha Raye was taken with my old Yashika Electro-35 camera, and later published on my website, www.RobesonsRme.com (http://www.RobesonsRme.com).
It is not, nor was it ever, copy protected. So, I have no problem with the photo showing up here, no matter where one might have obtained it. I'm sure that, as you say, it's all over the web. At least, the potential exists for that to be the case.
And, I'm not "pissed off".
When I published the photo, I included a detailed caption. I'm not computer savvy enough to re-post the photo with the caption. Maybe someone can put the two together for the benefit of the users of this very nice and interesting site.
The caption read as follows:

Bu Dop Special Forces Camp, November, 1969.

L-R: My own young self, MSG Andy Anderson with Clyde, the monkey, Specialist 5 Cahill, SSG McLain and the Fabulous Ms. Martha Raye. Ms. Raye adopted Special Forces during the Viet Nam War, and we adopted her. She was an honorary colonel in Special Forces, and was even jump qualified.
Ms. Raye (Colonel Maggie, to us) visited Special Forces Camps all over South Viet Nam during the war. There were only fourteen Americans at Bu Dop. Ms. Raye flew in early in the day, and did not leave until almost dark. She spent all day with fourteen men. We talked about anything and everything. We played cards. We drank. She drank more.
I have absolutely no idea what I had just said to her to make her laugh so hard. It must have been funny, though.
God bless people like Martha Raye. Her home in California was always open to any Special Forces Soldier passing through on their way to Viet Nam or back home.

Charlie Noyes

Cnoyes
06-13-2009, 03:28 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the color photo in the Soldier of Fortune article above is from after 2001, and not a Viet Nam era photograph?
Or, am I just confused by the layout?

Charlie Noyes

goat89
06-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Yes sir. Ready to be deployed to 'Nam in Pusan port.
What unit were these guys in?

click
06-13-2009, 03:39 PM
French paras before jumping into Dien Bien Phu

Great pics man, thx!

Dave76
06-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the color photo in the Soldier of Fortune article above is from after 2001, and not a Viet Nam era photograph?
Or, am I just confused by the layout?

Charlie Noyes
Yeah, you're right, but as the caption states, it's Tom Keith's (the SEAL featured in the article) security team working for Special Operations Consultants. ;-)

BTW: Welcome to the forum and thanks for providing the caption to your photo!

YANKEEBOBB
06-13-2009, 05:46 PM
Welcome to the forum and thanks for providing the caption to your photo!

X2 and please post more pics if you may have any... As far as your Maggie pic, I did come accross it a couple times. I think either some reanactor site and another site I think called U.S. military forum or something... That's where I also seen a few pics that were taken from this thread Vietnam war era pics of special units, LRRPS, MACV SOG,AATV,SEALS,FFL,GREEN BERETS... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4197829#post4197829) Some I personally scanned and posted.

Kadrun
06-13-2009, 07:02 PM
What unit were these guys in?

ROKMC Blue Dragon

Dave76
06-14-2009, 07:57 AM
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7/fremdenlegiondienbienphdotjpg
2eme BEP

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7031/2emereidotjpg
2eme REI

YANKEEBOBB
06-15-2009, 09:05 PM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4822/1965bdotjpg

Elfstone44
06-16-2009, 12:04 AM
Am I the only one that thinks the color photo in the Soldier of Fortune article above is from after 2001, and not a Viet Nam era photograph?
Or, am I just confused by the layout?

Charlie Noyes

No, you are right. The lead photo is obviously of one of the security contractors operating in Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11. Business is (or was) booming and lots of the old guys along with cheaper Gurkhas, South Africans, Serbs...were/are involved; Blackwater, Dyncorps and a dozen other companies were/are fielding capable units, mostly for physical security of some sort or another. Want to have another go?

Jacknola
06-16-2009, 11:32 AM
http://www.specialforces78.com/members/lholmes/photos1.html (http://www.specialforces78.com/members/lholmes/photos1.html)

Last night, Dr. Lonnie (Louis) Holmes, formerly a SSG, SF medic ( two tours Vn, tour in Thailand), called my brother after 40 years. I sent him an email and went to his web site. He has many pictures posted, including these. I'm taking the liberty of posting some of his pictures here. The first is of Lonnie in Kontum with... ahem... moi (though he mistakenly captions it as being my twin brother...)

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/26875/2974016990103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2974016990103673033IsqNaN)

In this picture, I was passing through Kontum (July-68), when I ran into Lonnie. He was a medic and was obsessively attuned to all the bad stuff you could come down with. He took one look at me and put me in the hospital for 5 days... it turned out to be severe amoebic dysentery, not malaria.

I’m taking the liberty of posting some of the pictures Lonnnie has on his web site. These are from A-251 Plei Djereng which was an SF camp due west on Kontum, south of Ben Het at the southern end of “rocket ridge” which overlooked the DakTo-Kontum-Pleiku Dak Poko river valley plain.

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/42120/2799841150103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2799841150103673033QLdmei)

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/18388/2822616440103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2822616440103673033qBtdLc)

http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/45481/2832237410103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2832237410103673033KOOYqZ)

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/43640/2930941040103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2930941040103673033MQcYWn)

The B-23 Kontum Mike Force was formed after TET, early in 1968. They initially had two companies, later expanded to four (I think). Lonnie went to the MikeForce from Plei Djereng (A-251) supposedly because he was deemed to be getting too involved with the FULRO boys at Plei Djereng...(FULRO was the Montagnard independence organization).

Note the scarves being worn by mike force company. In SF, in general we all had BIG scarfs that we wore into the field... very useful pieces of cloth ... mine was usually black. But the mike force and other special op companies usually each had a special color identfying each company. The idea was to look like a boy scout troop.

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/44224/2804008440103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2804008440103673033MwGYve)

http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/41866/2189762010103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2189762010103673033IkMLbp)

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/9804/2217154000103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2217154000103673033PHQPqB)

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/41801/2084727620103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2084727620103673033NhvUtE)

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/44651/2210239100103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2210239100103673033uIWWNr)

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/45589/2293209830103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2293209830103673033IWNJev)

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/43618/2721097470103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2721097470103673033wSnQgz)

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/45780/2707525580103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2707525580103673033NRmaBc)

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/11409/2674583030103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2674583030103673033sgdvSb)

Below: Chellela and Carpenter, Kontum Mike Force, 1968

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/45307/2009423750103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2009423750103673033yaINlf)
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http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/43509/2322175670103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2322175670103673033DtKvXK)

YANKEEBOBB
06-16-2009, 12:46 PM
Very cool!! Thanks for the great pics and link bro!!

YANKEEBOBB
06-19-2009, 01:46 AM
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El Diablo Rojo
06-19-2009, 06:47 AM
Excellent pics, Jacknola.

YANKEEBOBB
06-21-2009, 01:25 PM
Here's a good article by the great Maor John L. Plaster from his book - SOG: The Secret Wars of America's Commandos in Vietnam.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7168/scan0037f.thdotjpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0037fdotjpg)http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4783/scan0022j.thdotjpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0022jdotjpg)http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9125/scan0032u.thdotjpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0032udotjpg)http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1825/scan0033e.thdotjpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0033edotjpg)http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3172/scan0035.thdotjpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0035dotjpg)http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/491/scan0036u.thdotjpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0036udotjpg)

YANKEEBOBB
06-21-2009, 04:19 PM
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5048/staffsgtjerryshrivermaddotjpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5048/staffsgtjerryshrivermaddotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
06-21-2009, 04:24 PM
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6648/sfcrobertallenanspachdedotjpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3222/img0020cdydotjpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9642/img0017ndkdotjpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5492/img0016qibdotjpg


SFC Robert Allen Anspach, Det A-401 Mike Force KIA 11th Sept 1967

(He's the one the and on right & front center in top pic)

Elfstone44
06-23-2009, 11:19 PM
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5048/staffsgtjerryshrivermaddotjpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5048/staffsgtjerryshrivermaddotjpg

Yankee Bob, Might be worthwhile posting those photos of Mad Dog onto the MACVSOG line too...make it a matter or record...never seen them before.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=52378&page=10

YANKEEBOBB
06-24-2009, 02:13 AM
Will do!! I actually don't think I seen that thread 'till now...

Here's a link to an "After tour report" from the OIC of SEAL Team 2 Det. ALPHA 1971

http://www.freewebs.com/billyschorr/SEAL%2...ALendoftour.pdf (http://www.freewebs.com/billyschorr/SEAL%20papers/SEALendoftour.pdf)

Jacknola
06-24-2009, 03:32 PM
I don't know where this came from, it may be on this site somewhere. Anyway, ... an Ex-gunship pilot for MACVsog buddy sent me this... It is as we suspected, the TRUE viewpoint of the all-the-comforts-of-home-bunker dwelling, wraparound sunglasses, shoulder holster sporting, clean smelling, highly-paid flying vehicle chauffers .....

By the way... he has all of Snake Adam's pictures and albums (lots and lots) which he has photo shop edited. I'm trying to convence him to make them public... with SAs permission of course...

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/41745/2652182230103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2652182230103673033LhswEA)

RT-HABU
06-28-2009, 01:32 AM
Hey All, found a few ARVN Ranger advisor photos and scanned them as well as I picked up some nice Mike Force pix from a vet friend,
enjoy!!

paul

RT-HABU
06-28-2009, 01:43 AM
heres a few of Marth Ray I found when she was visiting SMAG I believe in 1971,

paul

YANKEEBOBB
06-29-2009, 12:35 AM
Great stuff as always Paul! Thanks for sharing!

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9977/wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwdotjpg

Any idea what that badge is next to the ARVN ranger badge on his beret??

RT-HABU
06-29-2009, 01:03 AM
Hey bro,
thanks, gotta keep up with your pix your the man!!!

yea I can tell you exactly what it is!! mike Martin is a good friend of mine, its a small beer can DI of the Tiger head super impossed on the 5 point star just like on the Ranger helmets.

thanks again :)

paul

RT-HABU
06-29-2009, 01:09 AM
heres a few from camp Gia Vuc 1964-65
enjoy,

P

YANKEEBOBB
06-30-2009, 10:56 AM
its a small beer can DI of the Tiger head super impossed on the 5 point star just like on the Ranger helmets.
paul

Very cool and thanks again for the great pics!

Kadrun
07-05-2009, 08:16 PM
M1 makes you look so professional if you use it against AK-47 ;)

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http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6346/11112fdotjpg
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http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6122/11114dotjpg

Dave76
07-06-2009, 06:52 PM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1185/lrrpnamcrossingdotjpg
LRRP

YANKEEBOBB
07-07-2009, 11:18 PM
LRRP
Cool pic! Looks like he's having a hell of a time trying to keep that big pig dry.

Dave76
07-13-2009, 07:28 AM
3rd Force Recon:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1310/3rdforcereconnampatroldotjpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8529/3rdforcerecondotjpg

Kadrun
08-06-2009, 01:38 PM
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http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7033/200908031153383dotjpg

STuG
08-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Some great candid shots of ROKs posted above.

Jacknola
08-06-2009, 02:43 PM
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/15447/2884718020103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2884718020103673033CwiSlw)
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http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/45226/2103870510031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2103870510031690022oSPFaE)

USSF Team A-226


http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/42490/2344298550102527119S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2344298550102527119IVyvtU)

sixactual
08-19-2009, 02:56 PM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0137dotjpg

this is my dad circa 1970 rt south carolina
sgt gene hill
formerly of rt auger as well

i would welcome any feedback from former sog folks if you knew or knew of him.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0149dotjpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0148dotjpg

AroundTheCorner
08-29-2009, 02:02 AM
.................................

nougabol
08-29-2009, 02:27 AM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0137dotjpg

this is my dad circa 1970 rt south carolina
sgt gene hill
formerly of rt auger as well

i would welcome any feedback from former sog folks if you knew or knew of him.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0149dotjpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg235/psiGHOSTS_JIMMY/rt%20south%20carolina/DSCN0148dotjpg

That my friend is a rocking first post, goddamn !!
Your dad rocks

There still must be hundreds of these pics laying somewhere in the basement or attic, just waiting tobe discovered.

If you feel like posting up some more please do:)

Jacknola
08-29-2009, 04:21 AM
Sixactual - there is another line on this board dedicated to SOG (see below). You ought to post these pictures there as well as in this line.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=52378&highlight=Macv-sog

There are some old MACV-SOG people from that era that occasionally post on this board, my twin bro elfstone being one of them, fergerson being another.. They may be able to direct you to information that you will appreciate.

Finally, I recommend that you scan all the pictures you have. You can then go to a host site, such as webshots.com, create a free account, and post those pictures on line. Here is an example, my webshots page.

http://community.webshots.com/user/Jacknola

Then when the photos are in digital form and on the net, you can post all of them anywhere on the internet you please instead of posting a picture of a picture.. These are historical pictures and unless you are going to copywrite them and keep them close, they will go everywhere once out on the net. Don't be surprised if some of your fathers old team see them.

Regards,

Zeev
08-30-2009, 07:37 AM
Did philipines and taiwanese soldiers also fought in vietnam as the south koreans did, and if yes, are there any pics?

Thanks gents.

baboon6
08-30-2009, 07:44 AM
Did philipines and taiwanese soldiers also fought in vietnam as the south koreans did, and if yes, are there any pics?

Thanks gents.

No Taiwanese troops, though IIRC a covert ROC air force squadron did support some MACV-SOG operations, flying unmarked C-123s. The Philippines did contribute a "civic action group" from their army. There were also a fair number of Filipino civilians employed by US contractors and also by the CIA.

More on Philippines and Vietnam:

http://www.history.army.mil/books/Vietnam/allied/ch03.htm

ferguson
08-30-2009, 01:39 PM
There was a group called Pacific Architects and Engineers.

They had a bunch we called "Tech reps"
who did a lot of our heavier camp maintenence.
Dunnowho they worked for.
Drilled us a water well one time-a big deal after ditch water for a year.
Also did work on our vehicles.
Everything we had belonged to Viets, though.

Creeper
08-30-2009, 04:04 PM
The last pic you sent out , of the Mcguire rig , is a classic. It appears you have an actual B&W. Treasure it.

There is /was a SOG Trooper in Birmingham, Alabama with Twenty Special Forces , Headquarters Company. Probably retired. He is pictured in this thread in a reunion group pic. He may be ALOT of help to you.

The Lt.Col , who was the Headquarters Chaplin at the time I knew him, had many "interesting" comments about Plaster's Book on SOG teams.

I bet if you contact the admin office (S-3) they mite be able put you toward him.

But It would help if I could remember his name ! LOL !

I raise my glass and salute your Father ! RT teams were comprised of a unique breed of men.

ferguson
08-30-2009, 07:13 PM
Not sure what you mean by "interesting."
The only complaints I hear from guys is that he got a few names and places mixed up.
Otherwise most are quite happy with his stuff.

Creeper
08-30-2009, 08:29 PM
Let me clarify: I meant "Interesting" to what he, the Lt.Col at the time, added to Maj. Plaster's book. The Col. would add general details to a particular moment or excerpt, in the book. He would comment positively and give a personal insight(s) about the men he , the Lt.Col, worked with.
Not in a derogatory sense at all.
I apologize for the misunderstanding.

With regards,

Kadrun
08-31-2009, 12:29 AM
ROKMC 2nd Brigade 3rd Battalion 11th Company 2nd Platoon

http://bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/gallery/view.html?b_bbs_id=10062&pn=1&num=4953

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1889/20090830143930dotjpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7526/20090830144400dotjpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7638/20090830145214dotjpg

Dave76
08-31-2009, 05:30 AM
No Taiwanese troops, though IIRC a covert ROC air force squadron did support some MACV-SOG operations, flying unmarked C-123s. The Philippines did contribute a "civic action group" from their army. There were also a fair number of Filipino civilians employed by US contractors and also by the CIA.

More on Philippines and Vietnam:

http://www.history.army.mil/books/Vietnam/allied/ch03.htm
Besides SOG's 'First Flight Detachment' (part of OP 32 & OP 75, Air Studies Branch & Air Studies Group)you were talking about (which weren't ROC AF pilots IIRC, but rather mercenaries from Nationalist China along with American pilots) there also was a small official ROC Army advisory contingent present in Vietnam. Around thirty officers were responsible for establishing a political warfare system.

Dave76
08-31-2009, 03:58 PM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8739/srapdotjpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/808/srap01dotjpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7740/srap02dotjpg
SRAP (Short Range Ambush Patrol)/Holloway's Raiders, 1st Battalion 50th Infantry, 173rd Airborne Brigade

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:19 PM
Here's a few miscellaneous pics I found going through my pics, may have been posted before.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9408/sf0021dotjpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3407/post1211180908782dotjpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5041/670916fn04dotjpg
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http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8642/lrrpdotjpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6530/lrrp2dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:22 PM
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2693/fredmillerdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:24 PM
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http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3749/usmcreconteamdotjpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4986/usmcrecondotjpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3749/usmcreconteamdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:28 PM
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7956/bco2ndofthe7thfirstaircdotjpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7956/bco2ndofthe7thfirstaircdotjpg
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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7030/bco2ndofthe7thfirstaircvdotjpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7956/bco2ndofthe7thfirstaircdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:32 PM
Don't know where this is from but it's suposed to be an Australian SAS trooper in Vietnam. From a museum, I think.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6108/barnbyuniformsasrdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:45 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4135/1staircommandowearingandotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:47 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9691/lrrpsofthe173rdabnin196dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-28-2009, 06:53 PM
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/514/aattvadvisorwowalterrevdotjpg


AATTV advisor WO Walter R. Everett and SFC Thomas E. Noojin of the U.S. MACV advisory team watch Vietnamese Ranger candidates

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9694/australianaattvadvisorldotjpg


Australian AATTV advisor Lt. John Scales and MACV advisor Captain James Garvey conduct weapons training at the Vietnamese Ranger Center at Duc My

T.S.C.Plage
10-23-2009, 09:17 PM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4265/sealopdotjpg


USN SEAL standing guard on RSSZ Operation

You can find some more pics with captions on the linked site.

http://www.scearce.net/viet_nam.htm

DasBoost
10-24-2009, 12:47 AM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4265/sealopdotjpg


Noob question here: What is he carrying? Stoner 63? Thanks in advance.

T.S.C.Plage
10-24-2009, 02:39 AM
^Yes, it's a Stoner.

http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/Stoner%2063%20R4.html

DasBoost
10-24-2009, 11:50 AM
^Yes, it's a Stoner.

http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/Stoner%2063%20R4.html

Thanks. Wasn't sure but I knew it wasn't a M60. Great thread and pics guys!

YANKEEBOBB
10-28-2009, 12:36 PM
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3143/usmcadvisordotjpg

khalifah
10-28-2009, 10:13 PM
^
that is Col. John "Rip" Riply, Navy Cross Recipiant, Inducted into the US Army Ranger Hall of Fame, and a Marine Corps Legend in my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ripley_(USMC)


As a result of combat action, Colonel Ripley contracted a disease that would require a liver transplant (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Liver_transplant) in the summer of 2002. On his death bed, with little time left and already having received Last Rites (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Last_Rites) twice, a replacement liver was located for him. This spurred the Commandant of the Marine Corps (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Commandant_of_the_Marine_Corps) to send a section of CH-46s (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/CH-46_Sea_Knight) helicopters to Philadelphia (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Philadelphia) to retrieve the liver. After further coordination with the Washington D.C. Police (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Department_of_the_District_of_Columbia) for landing zones in the city, the liver arrived in time and the transplant was successful.[1 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-0)
the Marines take care of their own...
:)

digrar
10-29-2009, 12:31 AM
Don't know where this is from but it's suposed to be an Australian SAS trooper in Vietnam. From a museum, I think.




I'd say it's from the Australian War Memorial.

Soldat_Américain
10-29-2009, 12:42 AM
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3143/usmcadvisordotjpg
Only picture I've seen ever with a Marine wearing a Beret and Euro style which I've seen elsewhere here. Anyone know what the beret badge is?

T.S.C.Plage
10-29-2009, 01:20 AM
It's a beret of the VNMC (TQLC) with their crest and it's not worn "Euro" but French style. Military advisors did often wear the berets and insignias of the Vietnamese units they were attached to.

YANKEEBOBB
10-29-2009, 09:03 AM
^
that is Col. John "Rip" Riply, Navy Cross Recipiant, Inducted into the US Army Ranger Hall of Fame, and a Marine Corps Legend in my opinion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ripley_(USMC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ripley_(USMC))


Very cool! Thanks for the info. I just found the pic somewhere and thought it was interesting but didn't know all that.

James
10-29-2009, 11:53 AM
It's a beret of the VNMC (TQLC) with their crest and it's not worn "Euro" but French style. Military advisors did often wear the berets and insignias of the Vietnamese units they were attached to.

Whatever style it is it looks a lot better than the way the US Army wears berets today.

randwe
11-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Can anyone comment on the patch found on this beret (unit, etc.)?
I looked over all the pics in this thread but couldn't determine anything specific about it.

The "lizard-eater" on the page 1 may be wearing the same design.

Amazing collection of historic images here. Thanks to all.

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/beretdotjpg

Ravage
11-24-2009, 12:05 PM
Looks like a Vietnam era 5th SFG(A) beret flash.

YANKEEBOBB
11-24-2009, 12:10 PM
Can anyone comment on the patch found on this beret (unit, etc.)?
I looked over all the pics in this thread but couldn't determine anything specific about it.

The "lizard-eater" on the page 1 may be wearing the same design.

Amazing collection of historic images here. Thanks to all.


I've seen those ID'ed as Navy advisor flashes also. A remember a guy wore one who was a navy petty officer in Vietnam.

Also seen many repro officer flash sets with rank being sold from Lt. to Col.

mr. kurien
11-24-2009, 12:13 PM
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss196/mrkurien/vietnamsoldierinjohoredotjpg?t=1259063879

http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss196/mrkurien/vietnamsoldierinjohorejunglewarfaredotjpg?t=1259064070

Vietnamese soldiers with British instuctor at Johore ( Malaysia ) School of Jungle Warfare.

p/s: don't know which unit they are actually. i have a question... is it true that there are groups of trackers from Malaysia been deploy to Vietnam? thank you.

Jacknola
11-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Can anyone comment on the patch found on this beret (unit, etc.)?
I looked over all the pics in this thread but couldn't determine anything specific about it.

The "lizard-eater" on the page 1 may be wearing the same design.

Amazing collection of historic images here. Thanks to all.

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/beretdotjpg

USSF 5th Special Forces Group flash, circa Vietnam. The 5th flash changed several times (as did it did for other Groups, such as the 1st on Okinawa). The yellow-gold cross band was added about 1964 to the basic black which had been the 5ths flash prior to deployment of the entire group to Vietnam. I've read that the cossband colors do not denote the RVN flag but represent something else. That is news to me... we all assumed it to be representative of the RVN flag, and I still believe it.

This flash is not regulation issue, it is in-country made for a Colonel.... hence the silver eagle. Truth is, I do not recall seeing any of these ensignia-embrodered flashes while I was there, 1967 to end of 1968. They are now pretty common on e-bay.

There were not many full colonels in the SF. The Group commander was a full-bird, and there may have been others, but there certainly were not many. Furthermore, this picture seems to have the flash misplaced... or the picture negative is reversed . USSF berets had the patch over the left eye, beret pulled down to the right (VNSF reversed the direction). .. hence this is posssibly a reproduction, or fake relic.

We generally did not wear our berets much unless on forays into the rear areas. In A-camp, we also did not routinely wear much in the way of insignias of any type on our uniforms including rank. Occasionally we would put on one set of fatiques that was "patched" up... sometimes as a spoof.

On A-242, SSG "Sissy" Johnny Hollis (multiple tours, Laos, Vietnam, etc.,.. highly decorated for REAL..picture posted below), had a set of fatigues that had so many patches on it that it was rediculous (in the Army, you are what you wear... which is why people who fake awards are such piriahs)... and he was entitled to each and every one. A surviving teammate I visited recently, **** McAvoy (see below), has a picture of Hollis wearing that fully patch-equipped uniform. If I get a copy, I'll post it.


http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/41176/2783936350103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2783936350103673033allXlP)

http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/4524/2405603370103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2405603370103673033BCyUqM)

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/550/2319802550103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2319802550103673033Ahuang)

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/26868/2863455930103673033S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2863455930103673033IWfXAm)

Some of history of 5th flash, and controversy from site below..

"The 5th Special Forces Group was formed in 1961 of assets from the 1st and 7th Special Forces Groups. It was officially inspected by President John F. Kennedy in 1962. He was so impressed that he also officially sanctioned wear of the Green Beret for all Special Forces personnel at that gathering.

"The beret flash was originally all black. The white outside border was added when JFK was assassinated. The diagonal banner was added when the unit was deployed to Vietnam. These were the colors of the South Vietnamese flag.

"Recently, the flash has officially reverted to it's original black-with-white-border design. This change was quite controversial with those who served with the 5th in Vietnam. The Commanding General cited that it was inappropriate for a Special Forces unit to wear any flag other than the US flag.

"Old hands argue that this was the most decorated unit in the history of the US military and that it's colors should not be tampered with. Furthermore that too many good and brave men died wearing that flash and it should be kept intact in their memory.

"There is a large consensus that this smacks of the current wave 'political correctness' which the flash of the 5th Special Forces should not be subjected to.

"Their closing argument is that the 5th was formed from the 1st and 7th Groups. Their flash colors are yellow and red, respectively. ... [so officially revise what the diagonal banner stands for,] ... Simply change what the stated purpose of the colors are supposed to represent.
These are the type of things that make Special Forces Conventions so darned interesting. "

http://www.greenberet.net/misc/5th_flash.html (http://www.greenberet.net/misc/5th_flash.html)

percor
11-24-2009, 01:21 PM
USSF 5th Special Forces Group flash, circa Vietnam. The 5th flash changed several times (as did it did for other Groups, such as the 1st on Okinawa). The yellow-gold cross band was added about 1965 to the basic black which had been the 5ths flash prior to deployment of the entire group to Vietnam. I've read that the cossband colors do not denote the RVN flag but represent something else. That is news to me... we all assumed it to be representative of the RVN flag, and I still believe it.

I also believe that the yellow and red bands represent the RVN flag. But I read in a magazine (I can't remember if it was in an old SOF) that the flash with the yellow and red bands represent the SF detachments 1st (yellow), 5th (black) and 7th (red).

Regards,
Pat

randwe
11-24-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the info guys.
I am doing geneological research and the "navy petty officer /advisor in Vietnam" reference by Yankeebobb is consistent with other information I have.
To Jacknola's point; the original pic was taken at a strange angle - another pic taken on "a model" shows left eye orientation as the way it is 'broken in' would indicated it was worn. Also, inset, is an insignia found on the inside - which may help ID it further. It is embroidered white on black felt.
The beret has been known to exist, as is, since at least 1975. Suspected owner was in SE Asia from `69 or `70 onward.
I will post an interesting pic associated / found with with this beret for possible location ID as well.

...I knew this was the place to ask.

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/compdotjpg

randwe
11-24-2009, 02:00 PM
Here is the follow up pic with enlargement.
Clearly an Air America huey - any opinions on location?

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/huey1dotjpg

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/huey2dotjpg

T.S.C.Plage
11-24-2009, 02:44 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9012/navyberetdotjpg


Naval Advisory Group beret with an in-country made SEAL Team One beercan, ...

From here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6269

--------

I noticed the confusions about the 5th SFG Vietnam era flash but as far as I know it really represents a South Vietnamese flag. The most plausible explaination I found is this one here.


The beret flash was originally all black. The white outside border was added when JFK was assassinated. The diagonal banner was added when the unit was deployed to Vietnam. These were the colors of the South Vietnamese flag.
I know that other sources claim the flag represents just the colors of the 1st and 7th SFG but I found no explaination why this arrangement (three red *****es) should have been chosen. Another hint is that the flag got removed in '85 which would mean that they have worn the colors of an inaktive SFG (1st wasn't active from '74-'84) for about 10 years and then removed it just after the 1st got activated again.

Maybe it was more a lucky coincidence that both (flag and colors) did fit.

YANKEEBOBB
11-24-2009, 04:19 PM
We need RT-HABU's help on this!!!p-)

T.S.C.Plage
11-24-2009, 04:22 PM
Here is the follow up pic with enlargement.
Clearly an Air America huey - any opinions on location?

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/huey1dotjpg

http://www.coppercrow.com/pix/huey2dotjpg

Some background infos about the helicopter.


Bell 204B N1303X 2006 1 July 66 bought new
Service history: officially bought by Air America on 30 November 66 at $
377,184.90 (Accumulated costs as of 30 November 68, in: UTD/CIA/B40/F8);
previously probably financed by the Pacific Corp.; the aircraft was assigned to
contract AID-430-1092 for use out of Saigon in April and May 66, but had still not
arrived in May 66 (Aircraft status as of 8 April 66, in: UTD/Kirkpatrick/B1F1;
Aircraft status as of 4 May 66, in: UTD/Hickler/B1F2); bought from Bell Helicopters
on 1 July 66; registered to Air America on 26 July 66 (Status as of 5 April 74, in:
UTD/CIA/B56F3); probably entered service in South Vietnam on 10 July 66 (Minutes
Ex Com-AACL/AAM of 13 July 66, in: UTD/CIA/B8F1); on 27 February 67,
N1303X was hit by several rounds, while on the ground at coordinates BT 2630,
damaging the tail; repaired (XOXO of 27 Feb. 67, in: UTD/Hickler/B26F16); a
military walked into the rotating tail rotor after landing at Ben Tre (V-14), South
Vietnam, on 16 August 67 (XOXO of 16 Aug. 67, in: UTD/Hickler/B27F1; Accident
report, in: UTD/Hickler/B24F3); assigned to contract AID/VN-23 for use out of Saigon
as a basic aircraft in May 68 (Aircraft status as of 1 May 68, in: UTD/Herd/B2);
assigned to contract AID/VN-41 for use out of Saigon 15-31 August 68 (F.O.C. of 15
Aug. 68, in: UTD/LaShomb/B14); in use out of Saigon at least between 13 July 68
and 8 August 69 (Crew member duty report of H. F. Miller, in: UTD/Miller/B4F6);
still assigned to contract AID/VN-41 for use out of Saigon 16-30 June 69
(F.O.Circulars of 15 June 69, in: UTD/Hickler/B8F7B) and 15-31 August 69 (F.O.C.
of 15 Aug. 69, in: UTD/Hickler/B1F1); on 8 September 70, N1303X accidently
dropped three 55 gallon fuel drums 4 kilometers southwest of Hoi An (V-06), South
Vietnam; the fuel drums were being carried by sling and the sling reportedly snapped;
when the crew discovered that the sling load had fallen away, the aircraft was turned
back to Hoi An and a large fire on the ground was observed by the crew with at least
three houses burning; three civilians were killed and seven injured (XOXO of 8 Sept.
70, in: UTD/Hickler/B25F10; Minutes ExCom-AACL/AAM of 22 September 70, in:
UTD/CIA/B8F4); on 29 September 70, N1303X made a forced landing between Hue
Citadel (V-70) and Danang (V-03) due to mechanical problems; repaired (XOXO of
29 Sept. 70, in: UTD/Hickler/B25F10); in use out of Saigon at least between 20 April
71 and 24 July 71 (Saigon daily flight schedules, in: UTD/Hickler/B8F1); assigned to
contract AID/VN-100 for use out of Saigon at least 1-31 July 71 (F.O.Circulars of 1
and 15 July 71, in: UTD/Hickler/B8F7B); at Saigon on 1 September 71, when it
accumulated 10.000 hours (a photo was published in: Air America Log, vol. VI, no. 3,
1972, p.6); received a bullet hole in the main rotor blade in South Vietnam on 30 May
72; repaired and returned to service the same day (Minutes ExCom-AACL/AAM of
13 June 72, in: UTD/CIA/B9F7); on 25 November 72, N1303X received ground fire
at coordinates BS 435744, approximately 3 ˝ miles northeast of Ha Thanh (V-204) in
South Vietnam; nobody on board was injured, but the PIC (Leon V. LaShomb) made
a precautionary landing at Quang Ngai (V-23) for inspection; repaired (XOXO of 25
Nov. 72, in: UTD/Hickler/B27F2): still assigned to contract AID/VN-100 for use out
of Saigon at least 16-30 April 73 (F.O.C. of 16 April 73, in: UTD/Kaufman/B1F14)
and 1 November-31 December 73 (F.O.Circulars of 1 Nov. 73 and 1 Dec. 73, in:
UTD/Hickler/B8F7C); assigned to contract AID SA-C-1029 for use out of Saigon at
least 1-28 February 74 (F.O.C. of 1 Feb. 74, in: UTD/CIA/B51F21) and 1 April-31
May 74 (F.O.Circulars of 1 April 74 and 1 May 74, in: UTD/Hickler/B8F7C).

...

Source: http://www.utdallas.edu/library/collections/speccoll/Leeker/204.pdf
So you've a good chance that this is Saigon (Tan Son Nhut?).

Jacknola
11-24-2009, 04:36 PM
Well, my first reaction is that this is all a scam. The beret does not look period at all, and certainly does not look like what was issued to the USSF at the time (note no breathing holes) ... and the apparently in-country home-made 5th flash, the full-bird embroidered symbol ... all raise real questions.

It would be a courtmartial offense to impersonate an officer. If a Navy (for god's sake) petty officer was wearing this beret with 5th Group SF flash and a full-bird emblem, he would probably have been confronted pretty quickly by real SF in my opinion, and he might end up in the guard house.

Perhaps there was a Navy group that used this fanciful beret and emblem ... perhaps the "Navy advsory group" was attached to the 5th SF for a time, but I doubt it. Besides, to wear that full flash requires you to be "3-qualified."

"Three qualified" meant you could operate in any one of three specialty MOS, all with an "s" for Special Forces attached at the end... such as "05B4S" which was a fully SF qualified commo, or "11B2S" which meant you were a light weapons specialist, qualified as a secondary MOS (note the "2" rather than "4"), for special forces (addition of "S").

There were people attached to SF, such as the guys who ran the aircraft homing stations (search lights pointing straight into the air with an exact coordiinate) or some of the guys who manned the special listening intelligence equipment. BUT... they were not authorized the full flash ... instead they wore a single-bar flash - a "black bar with yellow and red piping" - beneath the sheild to indicate they were not 3-qualified.

And if this "Naval advisory group" was supposedly "seals," well... most of us didn't even know who the "seals" were at that time, and I do not think threre were ever more than about 100 deployed in Vietnam... and I doubt that any had the rank equivalent to "Colonel."

There are a lot of commercially invented "special" groups and uniforms today. This looks like one to me.

T.S.C.Plage
11-24-2009, 05:17 PM
Jack, check the following link (page 10).

http://swiftboats.net/published%20items/patches.pdf

YANKEEBOBB
11-24-2009, 06:26 PM
Jack, check the following link (page 10).

http://swiftboats.net/published%20items/patches.pdf

Great link, very interesting.

BTW here's the page T.S.C.Plage's refering to.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9806/1usndotjpg

RT-HABU
11-24-2009, 06:53 PM
We need RT-HABU's help on this!!!p-)

Yes the beret flash on the BLACK beret is indeed the US Navy NAG; Naval Adivisory Group, Vietnam, it does look like the 5th Group flash but the bird is a crow, not an eagle, 9 out of 10 times the piping is yellow not white, making it Navy, but def NOT a SF beret, Ive had quite a few of these over the years,

p

Jacknola
11-24-2009, 08:32 PM
Well, I'll be...Live and learn... Thanks for the documentation.

I find this emblem to be .... er .... a little obnoxiously similar to the 5ths...and the pictures were not clear on beret color. I am surprised this "symbol" was allowed to be adopted and its similarity to our 5th flash leaves me a little PO'd. It looks like an attempt by someone to appear to be something they were not.

But perhaps it was an informal identification not authorized formally, similar to the patches identifying RT teams in MACVsog.

Anyway, thanks for the lesson. Regards all.

hummm.... crow ... yeah right,... crow indeed!

randwe
11-25-2009, 01:17 PM
Thanks to TSCPlage for the post.
That is the first beret flash I have seen that matches the one I have been trying to ID. The construction of the inside - with the vinyl/plastic pocket on the inside top - is identical as well (sans the maker lable).

And thanks for all the info on the helicopter - didn't know all that was out there.

Great info from you all.

Does anyone know what the "Naval Advisory Group" was all about?
Does anyone know the significance of the insignia shown in the photo's inset (found on the inside of the beret) ?

Laconian
11-25-2009, 01:27 PM
Well, I'll be...Live and learn... Thanks for the documentation.

I find this emblem to be .... er .... a little obnoxiously similar to the 5ths...and the pictures were not clear on beret color. I am surprised this "symbol" was allowed to be adopted and its similarity to our 5th flash leaves me a little PO'd. It looks like an attempt by someone to appear to be something they were not.

But perhaps it was an informal identification not authorized formally, similar to the patches identifying RT teams in MACVsog.

Anyway, thanks for the lesson. Regards all.

hummm.... crow ... yeah right,... crow indeed!

This is why you are one of the class acts on this site. You are man enough to admit you don't know something. It is a sign of wisdom (not that a youngster like me has it yet). A lot of our younger viewers could learn a lot from you. Thanks for your contributions here and elsewhere on the site.

YANKEEBOBB
11-25-2009, 08:26 PM
This is why you are one of the class acts on this site. You are man enough to admit you don't know something. It is a sign of wisdom (not that a youngster like me has it yet). A lot of our younger viewers could learn a lot from you. Thanks for your contributions here and elsewhere on the site.

Well said man. I totally agree, many out there w/o any experiance whatsoever won't admit to being wrong or act like know it alls without any experience! The most experienced and smartest person can always learn something.

SSpikey
11-26-2009, 11:16 PM
I own the NAG beret with the SEAL Team One beercan pictured in post 644, in fact, that is MY picture.

randwe
11-27-2009, 12:25 PM
Is there a relationship between NAG and SEAL Team 1 or does the beercan just happen to be on it?

Dave76
11-27-2009, 12:55 PM
Is there a relationship between NAG and SEAL Team 1 or does the beercan just happen to be on it?
Since NAG had operational control over all Navy advisory elements and there was a constant SEAL advisory detachment to the SVN SEALs (LDNN), yes, there was.

SSpikey
11-27-2009, 01:04 PM
SEALs were also advisors to SOG/Sea Commando Teams.

Dave76
11-27-2009, 02:22 PM
SEALs were also advisors to SOG/Sea Commando Teams.
Yeah, the Naval Advisory Detachment (NAD) in Da Nang. But since that was a MACVSOG (OP 37) gig which conducted covert maritime ops und thus kinda 'black', I somehow doubt that it fell under NAG control.

YANKEEBOBB
11-28-2009, 11:52 AM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/235/ausiesasdotjpg


Australian SAS

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7386/ldnnadvisordotjpg


LDNN advisor

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6014/noncomwearingaduckhuntedotjpg


Non-com lifer serving with the Phoenix Program in the Delta in 1968


http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9850/captcommandingcoa3damphdotjpg



Capt. commanding Co. A, 3d Amphibian Tractor Battalion, 1st Marines in mid-67

T.S.C.Plage
11-29-2009, 07:08 AM
Found this one on the official Army page. My apology if it's already posted somewhere in here.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4717/armymil20070719094207dotjpg


SFC Doney 5th SFG: This is a photograph of Sergeant First Class (SFC) Norman A. Doney (standing on far right) with a group of Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) soldiers who were training with the 5th Special Forces Group, 1st Special Forces, September 1968. (S. L. A. Marshall Photograph Collection).

Zeev
11-29-2009, 07:30 AM
On many pics, I can notice that ARVN soldiers were equiped with the M1 carabines as main weapon, when did the ARVN received the M16's in large quantities?

T.S.C.Plage
11-29-2009, 07:44 AM
I think the most of them with the so called "Vietnamisation" of the war around 1969-71.

ferguson
11-29-2009, 08:29 AM
Those troops are CIDG, not ARVN.
I worked with them fom July, '68 to March 70.

We were very far down the food chain in regards to equipment
It was about mid 69 before we got M16s.
Regular ARVN units got them sooner.
The vast majority of carbines in RVN were M2's.

Dave76
11-29-2009, 09:21 AM
Those troops are CIDG, not ARVN.
I worked with them fom July, '68 to March 70.

While it is true that SF mainly worked with CIDG in Viet Nam, the caption could be correct. SFC Doney was with B-52 'Project Delta', and their modus operandi normaly included recon teams which were comprised of 2 Americans and 4 ARVN SF.

ferguson
11-29-2009, 12:37 PM
Not to argue a point, but just my observation.
I Don't think LL's or even CIDG in the projects would have settled for a carbine.
They had high priority on gear and support.
Interesting picture.

We got carbines entering country in '68, but that was for the initial training phase.

I got a M16 when I got to my A Camp, but carried a carbine until the troops got 16s.
It was good for counterpart relations which could sometimes decide your fate.

HadesssLoakoon
11-30-2009, 08:20 AM
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3359/macvsogdotjpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3393/macvsog1dotjpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3315/macvsog4dotgif

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5959/macvsog5dotjpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9931/macvsog3dotjpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9247/macvsog2dotjpg

T.S.C.Plage
12-03-2009, 05:31 PM
SEALs...

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5319/superseal1dotjpg http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6278/superseal2dotjpg

SSpikey
12-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Looks like guys from Golf platoon, one of 3 SEAL platoons on Sea Float 1970. I might actually know the 2 guys standing if they are who I think they are.

James
12-17-2009, 04:22 PM
Prairie Fire Audio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEGWISd6jYs&fmt=18).

T.S.C.Plage
12-26-2009, 02:42 PM
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2959/kingbees01dotjpg
"Kingbee" pilots and crew

YANKEEBOBB
12-28-2009, 09:49 PM
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/84/mikediminoatbeachteambldotjpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3581/patrolpopsyellowsmokeindotjpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9523/webleedtowinmikediminopdotjpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5940/teamluckylarkatcampreasdotjpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1681/teamhanoversueinearly19dotjpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7941/teambluesprucecpljimsoudotjpg
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9356/sgtlemkeradiochiefdeltadotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
12-28-2009, 09:52 PM
All pics from http://www.1strecon.org/1strecon/reconmain.shtml

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3439/mauricejacquessgtmajorudotjpg
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4220/mikediminoandkenthompsodotjpg
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2444/harryhayesincammiepaintdotjpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3843/deltacompanyteambookcovdotjpg
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2672/cpll****nwithbravo2byendotjpg
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4296/checkingmapduringbreakcdotjpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4227/1streconmotortransport7dotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
12-28-2009, 10:07 PM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7448/arvntroopsarriveat1stredotjpg

ARVN troops arrive at 1st Recon, LZ Quail, Chu Lai 1966
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9346/docchapmanthediverinwetdotjpg

Doc Chapman the diver in wetsuit with gear at a dive site
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9573/standocchapmansweaponsfdotjpg

Stan Doc Chapman's weapons; for a Corpsman, Stan went rather well armed folding stock AK-47, K-bar, Randall knife, Browning HiPower
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6672/1streconpersonnelloadindotjpg

1st Recon personnel loading onto an HRS-34 helicopter at a Special Forces camp
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2995/thegoodiesshoppeatcamprdotjpg

The Goodies Shoppe at Camp Reasoner. trinkets, junk, laundry done.

Jacknola
12-28-2009, 10:46 PM
I borrowed these pictures from Capt. Selders site on Webshots. He was camp commander at A-242 Dak Pek after I left country end of Oct., 1968... our tours at Dak Pek may have overlapped briefly, I don't really rememberr. To review his on-line albums, see: http://community.webshots.com/user/jselders3

Capt. Jim Selders

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/43341/1252489000064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252489000064383376VGPFCH)

SSgt Joe Howard… I served with Joe, went on two or three missions with him. He extended, stayed in Vietnam for about 2 years. I previously posted some pictures of him about page 22.

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/43307/1252489146064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252489146064383376APcuYv)

http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/43479/1252489595064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252489595064383376ITFPgG)

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/44252/1252489963064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252489963064383376PAERVW)

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/42824/1252490352064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252490352064383376QuKaUP)

http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/18839/1252490855064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252490855064383376VIdSTm)

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/28454/1252491287064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252491287064383376AkIcYX)

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/44793/1252492083064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252492083064383376vcZRFD)

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/36427/1252493826064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252493826064383376pkwoKL)

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/44430/1252495780064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252495780064383376DCXqtN)

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/35041/1252496238064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252496238064383376hKthFi)

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/20646/1252497052064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252497052064383376tCbGXM)



http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/25861/1252485296064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252485296064383376BUoMEe)

Polie Klang

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/13248/1252526517064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1252526517064383376vozwsW)

Jacknola
12-28-2009, 11:28 PM
Nothing much to do tonight... raiding "webshots" for pictures...

Sgt. Jimmy McDanial, 1968

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/44394/2457115720080769135S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2457115720080769135CHDpvP)

LRP-Rangers (?) from this webshots site [we didn't have dedicated "ranger" units in Vietnam as far as I know... perhaps this was a local tag]: http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/567266668yfBYLc

http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/43966/2382327270104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2382327270104060054NTDKtp)

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/44147/2772970310104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2772970310104060054VJgWqb)

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/44232/2140794130104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2140794130104060054MYNnbN)

http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/43466/2315437380104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2315437380104060054olmxRU)

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/3256/2412535030104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2412535030104060054uOpgWQ)

Kit Carson scout

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/43779/2005283400104060054S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2005283400104060054NupegA)

MACVsog: from this site: http://news.webshots.com/album/546956534uvfLST

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/46571/2623888320014645204S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2623888320014645204OpKalW)

From this album: http://news.webshots.com/album/281384243rrmVxF

Duc Co1968

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/45056/1281384593031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1281384593031690022MbogUm)

Nui Coto

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/42721/1281385384031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1281385384031690022hWdAsB)

YANKEEBOBB
12-29-2009, 12:14 AM
Nothing much to do tonight... raiding "webshots" for pictures...


Hey, that's cool. Thanks for taking the time to do so!

Jacknola
12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
:Webshots" hosts my personnal albums... so I periodically search that site for pictures. Their search engine stinks... but I've found some more personal snapshots that people have probably not seen.

Group 72 SOG... this is an LLDB special operations group.

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/628/1081149125031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1081149125031690022GvffzB)

http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/17193/1081152028031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1081152028031690022IivLoD)

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/46133/1102544876031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1102544876031690022ZkLXFs)

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/4074/1102548323031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1102548323031690022cFTUet)

Knife-fighting, snake-eating… CIDG and LLDB

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/10746/2345180510102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2345180510102474910UESqus)

Cambodia
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/33698/2550959600102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2550959600102474910cUZfdu)

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/42402/2441743830102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2441743830102474910ciOlgL)

MACVsog..”some of Bill’s team…” CCN

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/45995/1543097700032434474S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1543097700032434474JtyXok)

Bill Barclay, CCN 1968

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/2730/1543093620032434474S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1543093620032434474DuRAJK)

Ray Heath, Dec-68, CCN

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/2757/1543097452032434474S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1543097452032434474nORuQp)

Jim, CCN, Dec-68

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/5725/1543097958032434474S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1543097958032434474Wjkxio)

DnA
12-29-2009, 10:15 PM
LRP-Rangers (?) from this webshots site [we didn't have dedicated "ranger" units in Vietnam as far as I know... perhaps this was a local tag

http://www.ranger.org/html/vietnam_history.html
http://www.suasponte.com/vietnam.htm

Jacknola
12-29-2009, 11:22 PM
CIDG ladies
http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/7846/2608709730102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2608709730102474910wjJFep)

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/4794/2016383910102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2016383910102474910zZqefk)

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/26464/2679899270102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2679899270102474910hCrGqX)

Hue-68
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43503/2031691240102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2031691240102474910ifqRMH)

ARVN airborne
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/30402/2076318290102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2076318290102474910HrXwVz)

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/16862/2635881270102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2635881270102474910DjccMV)

http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/45416/2575978590102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2575978590102474910LHhcIS)

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/22240/2714984680102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2714984680102474910gtioha)

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/26160/2657054140102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2657054140102474910lzVTwH)

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/3968/2136236030102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2136236030102474910DMRyER)

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/45802/2837852080102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2837852080102474910jmpndh)

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/26627/2438207740102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2438207740102474910PpqQpX)

http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/44239/2510638580102474910S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2510638580102474910rxxUvr)

JeffreyB.
01-04-2010, 12:30 PM
Trying to find buddys from 1968,69 MACV Teams 50 & 75, My Tho and Cao Lahn. Worked with the 44th Rangers in 4 corp. Thanks, Jeffrey B.

jenser
01-04-2010, 01:02 PM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5380/30ae6dotjpg


Hi-res anyone? :)

TheEvian100
01-18-2010, 01:30 PM
My contribution:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3295/newpicture2fdotjpg

T.S.C.Plage
04-03-2010, 08:21 PM
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4325/fai700595vnddotjpg

Bump! 12345

Sand Man
04-11-2010, 01:04 AM
What in the world is that they are sipping?? :)

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/35041/1252496238064383376S600x600Q85dotjpg

Dave76
04-11-2010, 07:34 AM
What in the world is that they are sipping?? :)
Rice wine, I guess.

Dave76
05-11-2010, 03:47 AM
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3959/ncompanyranger75thinfandotjpg
N Company (Ranger), 75th Infantry

puska
05-11-2010, 10:49 AM
Was there special forces called "guerrillas" who trained in Latin America 3 years before Vietnam. Any info would be nice.
regards,

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2010, 10:55 AM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5468/95117043dotjpg
Green Beret by Steve Mitchell

Green Beret Army Staff Sgt. Robert Preiss. He was reported missing in action in Vietnam in 1970 but his remains were never found or verified until 1998 when DNA forensic techniques finally made it possible. His mother never gave up hope that he was alive and she died in 1984 never knowing her son’s remains had been found. The victims of war are not always those in the war zone.

James
05-24-2010, 05:11 PM
Was there special forces called "guerrillas" who trained in Latin America 3 years before Vietnam. Any info would be nice.
regards,

The U.S. trained Brigade 2702 for the invasion of Cuba in Guatemala in 1961-62.

What do you mean by "before Vietnam"? Our involvement there started while the French were still fighting the Viet Minh. The first American soldiers to die in Vietnam were killed in 1959.

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2010, 11:34 PM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9563/hrs9807294edotjpg
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/43/hrs9807294bdotjpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8015/rfpreissgravesite062703dotjpg
................................

YANKEEBOBB
05-24-2010, 11:36 PM
LAST DRAFT OF G.I.'S STORY

BY JIM DWYER
Thursday, July 30th 1998, 2:04AM
NEWARK AIRPORT, 3:20 on a late July afternoon. A moment before, the heat itself seemed alive, wriggling in waves off the Tarmac. The roar of jet engines pulverized the air. Then the small conveyor belt began rolling: Slowly, slowly, the coffin tilted out the freight door of American Airlines Flight 546.
The remains of Sgt. Robert Preiss, killed 28 years ago, half a world away in a secret war were coming home.
Now the airport noise seemed distant. Ground crew people stood beneath the jetway, motionless, hands crossed. Up in the terminal, people waiting for passengers on Flight 546 pressed against the glass. They watched a coffin draped in an American flag edging down the conveyor.
A few feet away, a tall man in jeans watched, quietly chewing a piece of gum. His name is Donald Preiss, and at a moment when a government is tied in knots over small lies, he stood yesterday for the dignity of the truth.
"I wrote to a few of his buddies that he was coming home, but a letter came back that one of them had just died from cancer, probably Agent Orange," said Preiss. "Who knows what would have happened if Bobby had made it?"
Preiss last saw his brother on a winter morning in 1969. Don was brushing his teeth, getting ready for school.
"I'll be gone by the time you get home," Bobby had said.
They exchanged quick hugs. His brother was with the Green Berets, the Special Forces Unit. He was going back to serve a second tour in Vietnam.
Six months later, a Saturday night, his mother hollered for Don to come to the door. From the stairs, he could see a *****e along a pants leg. They were presented with written notification that Sgt. Robert Preiss had been wounded in Vietnam and was missing. Two lies in one document. A few months later, another telegram came to say that he was killed in Vietnam. That was only one lie.
Bobby Preiss had died on a hillside in Laos, a country in which the United States government claimed there was no military action. In fact, U.S. bombers dropped 2 million tons of bombs on a Laotian supply trail that was used by the Viet Cong.
"We asked all kinds of questions, and we never got answers," said Don Preiss. "My mother always believed the first message, that he was missing." She tormented herself with the thought that he was alive, wandering in a jungle somewhere. She died in 1984.
In 1988, Don Preiss visited the Vietnam Memorial Wall, where his brother's name was listed among the missing. A veteran at a table told him he had the right to know the circumstances.
With help from his congressman, Ben Gilman, Preiss filed a Freedom of Information request. They learned that his brother had led a six-man team into Laos on May 12, 1970. At noon, they stopped for water by a small stream. Preiss and two others went to the top of a steep hill.
They were ambushed. Preiss was shot in the back. He fell 70 feet, down the slope, dislocating his shoulder. He rolled against a tree. Sgt. Jeffrey Lyman, a medic, dressed his wounds. Preiss groaned.
"In order to quiet him and perhaps make him more comfortable, I administered . . . morphine, hoping it would have a tranquilizing effect," wrote Lyman. But Preiss was sinking quickly. His pulse failed. He stopped breathing. CPR did not help.
The team came back to check on Preiss before they left. His body already was stiffening.
The area was then sterilized, or bombed. At first, the Preiss family was told the bombing had been done by American forces to conceal the presence of the dead Green Beret. Other documents suggest it was done by the Viet Cong.
In 1995, a Laotian farmer named Mr. Leup brought American investigators to the hillside where he had seen human remains. That day, they found 10 bone fragments. There were two morphine syrettes, a packet of Alka Seltzer, a boot sole and a penlight.
The bone fragment matched with the Preiss family DNA. They went back earlier this year and dug out the rest of the remains, and brought them to Honolulu, to the military's identification lab.
Yesterday afternoon, accompanied by Sgt. 1st. Class Randy Rhodes, the remains of Robert Preiss arrived in Newark. The Preiss family had moved to Cornwall after living in Richmond Hill and Roosevelt. A wake will be held Saturday morning in Cornwall on Hudson, at the Quigley Brothers Funeral Home, and a Mass will be held at 2 p.m. at St. Thomas of Canterbury. He will be buried Monday in Arlington.
WAITING alongside the cargo door of the American Airlines flight were a dozen men in denim jackets, tatooed biceps, leather vests. They were members of the Nam Knights, a motorcycle group, and each man held a crisp salute as the coffin rolled past. Dignity is never tattered, no matter the fashion.
Don Preiss said little. He leaned for a moment into the he****. Then he stood, wiped the corner of one eye, and shook hands with every person on the Tarmac. He got in a car and followed his brother's remains on the long drive up the Hudson, back to the town Robert Preiss left three decades ago, a 25-year-old soldier, then and now.

JUNKHO
05-24-2010, 11:49 PM
+ Rest in Peace +

Condolences to the family

Glad this SF soldier finally came home!

ferguson
05-25-2010, 12:33 AM
I don't understand the Morphine.
It would have guaranteed his death under those circumstances.

Friend of mine died due to a similar misapplication.

You got to be rallycareful with that stuff, unlike on the movies.

JJ_BPK
05-25-2010, 06:20 AM
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8015/rfpreissgravesite062703dotjpg


RIP Warrior, Vaya con Dios..

Thanks for posting Bob..

YANKEEBOBB
05-31-2010, 12:03 AM
Scanned these from a Time-Life book.


124036
124033
124037
124035


124032
124031

YANKEEBOBB
05-31-2010, 12:09 AM
^^^^ Sorry guys, I don't know WTF is going on but I cant upload pics anymore! ^^^^

Dave76
05-31-2010, 06:05 PM
^^^^ Sorry guys, I don't know WTF is going on but I cant upload pics anymore! ^^^^
Host 'em somewhere else, would love to see 'em!

----


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7402/sfevacdotjpg

11 Sep 1969, Song Be, South Vietnam --- Song Be, S. Vietnam: Assist To Evacuation Helicopter. An American Green Beret (right), and a South Vietnamese soldier assist wounded Vietnamese soldier to medivac helicopter following fighting near the Special Forces camp at Duc Phong, 40 miles north of Saigon, September 9. South Vietnamese spokesmen said government casualties reached a two-month high 502 dead and 1,210 wounded--during fighting last week. It was the highest casualty toll since the week ending June 14 which saw 516 dead and 1,424 wounded. --- Image by © Bettmann/CORBIS

YANKEEBOBB
06-01-2010, 09:27 AM
Here you go... I hope these work. Click to get to imageshack to make them big enough to read.
Scans & pics aren't so good but I thought it was interesting to be able to see the whole raid go down.

baboon6
06-01-2010, 10:27 AM
No that's not working either I'm afraid, at least not for me.

Dave76
06-01-2010, 11:22 AM
No that's not working either I'm afraid, at least not for me.
Get rid of the .th in the url, then you can view the hi-res images.

Cheers Bob! But it's a shame they're of such bad quality, interesting nonetheless.

-------------

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4696/chinesenungsmikeforceaudotjpg

14 Mar 1967, Marble Mountain, Vietnam --- Marble Mountain, Vietnam: Chinese Nungs, members of the Australian Mike Forces who are trained by the Australian Special Forces, are shown on patrol with their warrent officer, Edward Nicholas (second, left), around their training camp at Marble Mountain, about six miles east of Da Nang, March 14. March 14, 1967. --- Image by © Bettmann/CORBIS

Ubez
06-23-2010, 08:38 PM
Good evening. This is my first post here, and I have to say this is my favorite thread on the whole website. I hope these aren't reposts:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/ubeswardog/lolz/st2nam1967dotjpg
Check out the GX5857.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/ubeswardog/lolz/bigalashtonprisonerdotjpg

YANKEEBOBB
06-24-2010, 09:15 AM
127244127243127242127241127240127239

*****!!!!! Since MP.net changed all this I can't get pics to load!! Sorry guys, I got a few new pics but can't get 'em up.

dewafrost
06-24-2010, 09:21 AM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9563/hrs9807294edotjpg

who are those vietnamase personel, are they ARVN or CIDG?????

James
06-24-2010, 02:43 PM
My guess is Montagnards.

drunkpunk
06-27-2010, 06:31 AM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/ubeswardog/lolz/st2nam1967dotjpg



what's the model of that flotation vest?

LoboCanada
06-27-2010, 09:31 AM
EPIC^^^^!!!!one!!11eleven

Kadrun
07-15-2010, 07:45 PM
I just found out that ROK private earned about 40 dollars per month in Nam. How much did US private earn? And how much for SVN private if possible?

JUNKHO
07-15-2010, 09:16 PM
..................

Ubez
07-16-2010, 09:11 PM
what's the model of that flotation vest?

I must admit, I have absolutely no clue. I wish I had an answer for you

Comrade Commissar
10-13-2010, 01:13 PM
Since some photos seem to be missing from the time this thread has endured does anyone have some of the pictures of seals in blue jeans (close ups) the seal stuck in mud with the stoner, and the seal weapons laid out on the floorboard of a boat? id post them but they are stuck on my laptop, which is infected/crashed and the usb/cd drive wont work anymore...

also any more pj pics/anzac/nzsas photos would be great too...

m.i.t
10-13-2010, 01:22 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/ubeswardog/lolz/bigalashtonprisonerdotjpg

Strange . Rifle seems a HK-33 . Does the picture belong vietnam war era ?

Dave76
10-13-2010, 01:44 PM
Strange . Rifle seems a HK-33 . Does the picture belong vietnam war era ?
It's a Harrington & Richardson T223, basically a licensed copy of the HK33, and yes the picture shows indeed a Vietnam-era SEAL, 'Big Al' Ashton SEAL Team 2, just as the pic says, he passed away last year. RIP

recce23
10-13-2010, 01:57 PM
Strange . Rifle seems a HK-33 . Does the picture belong vietnam war era ?


It isnt the HK-33 but a Harrington & Richardson T223 rifle cal.223 .
The H&R T223 was an imported version of the German Heckler & Koch HK33 in the early 1960s.

m.i.t
10-13-2010, 02:19 PM
MAy l ask why SEALs choose this rifle ? Was it better then A1 ?

Dave76
10-13-2010, 02:37 PM
MAy l ask why SEALs choose this rifle ? Was it better then A1 ?
The Teams had a lot of experimental weapons and some were taken to SEA for evaluation. Although the T223 was a bit heavier than the M16, the SEALs that carried it in Vietnam generally liked the 40-round mags it came with, it was also easier to clean and maintain and it shot the same round as the M16s and Stoners that were carried in a platoon/squad. Unfortunately it wasn't an American weapon and soon disappered from the Teams.

Dave76
10-13-2010, 02:42 PM
Since some photos seem to be missing from the time this thread has endured does anyone have some of the pictures of seals in blue jeans (close ups) the seal stuck in mud with the stoner, and the seal weapons laid out on the floorboard of a boat? id post them but they are stuck on my laptop, which is infected/crashed and the usb/cd drive wont work anymore...

Got the pics you are looking for, going to upload them later or tomorrow, stay tuned.

ReconMarine
10-13-2010, 05:42 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/leighm25a/VN%20USMC%20Recon%20pics/3rdforcereconteam4at7dotjpg
http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_03_2009/post-1107-1237576032dotjpg
http://www.3rdrecon.org/images/Mike%20Green's%20021dotjpg
http://www.3rdrecon.org/images/Mike%20Green's%20030dotjpg
http://www.3rdrecon.org/images/Mike%20Green's023dotjpg
http://www.alphareconassociation.org/donghaforcedotjpg
http://www.alphareconassociation.org/surfkhesahndotjpg

Some photos of A Co 3rd Recon Bn USMC, 1968

Dave76
10-14-2010, 07:59 AM
Since some photos seem to be missing from the time this thread has endured does anyone have some of the pictures of seals in blue jeans (close ups) the seal stuck in mud with the stoner, and the seal weapons laid out on the floorboard of a boat? id post them but they are stuck on my laptop, which is infected/crashed and the usb/cd drive wont work anymore...

There you go, hope that's what you were looking for:

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/662/sealsvietnam01dotjpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2672/sealsvietnamjeansdotjpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9086/sealdarylyoungdotjpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8463/sealsnamdotjpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1718/sealsjulietplatoon1970dotjpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6739/sealsravenfacnamdotjpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9071/sealteamonexrayplatoonbdotjpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1116/sealwithstonerinmuddotjpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4904/51lgdotjpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5589/56lgadotjpg

shafty
10-16-2010, 09:37 PM
Those guys with the booze leaning against the plane are Ravens.

If you haven't gotten that book about their war in Laos, I highly recommend it. Fantastic read.

Dave76
10-17-2010, 05:29 AM
Those guys with the booze leaning against the plane are Ravens.

If you haven't gotten that book about their war in Laos, I highly recommend it. Fantastic read.
AFAIK only one of them is a Raven FAC, the rest should be SEALs.

Kadrun
01-17-2011, 11:22 PM
some evil koreans w/ m1 and mask :)

Capital Division (Capital Mechanized Infantry Division) "Maengho"

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8349/20110118115838dotjpg

sepia
01-24-2011, 02:27 PM
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9356/sgtlemkeradiochiefdeltadotjpgWhat is Willy type.



http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/42721/1281385384031690022S600x600Q85dotjpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/1281385384031690022hWdAsB)At Right,I think he is PARU because his cap had Thai Police Airbrone wing.

Dave76
02-02-2011, 01:58 PM
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/4688/cod151strangerinfvietnadotjpg

SGT Curtis E. Hester firing his M-16 rifle, SGT Billy H. Faulks calls for air support, Co D, 151st (Ranger) Inf., Vietnam, 1969.

Dave76
02-02-2011, 02:02 PM
What is Willy type.

It's not a Willys, it's an AMC M422 'Mighty Mite'.

Marsch
08-14-2011, 09:05 AM
UDT-12 during Operation Deep Channel II.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3696/w560h459dotjpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1685/w560h360dotjpg

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/9871/w560h395dotjpg

Source of photos and story: http://robert83634.tripod.com/id10.html

nagyI
08-20-2011, 03:52 AM
I have found this image of a HK33/T223 in the Navy Seals Museum and I would like to ask you what is on the foregrip of the gun? The image is quite small has not too good quality but maybe you can figure it out.
I love this thread!
Regards, Gabor
162478

Steak-Sauce
08-20-2011, 04:36 AM
Are you sure this is a HK33 / T223? To my eyes it looks more like a HK21 (or HK23 in 5,56mm?) light machine gun with the standard issue HK vertical grip of this time. Moreover you can see the feeding mechanism on the left-hand side of the gun for the belt-fed ammunition.

Dave76
08-20-2011, 06:05 AM
I have found this image of a HK33/T223 in the Navy Seals Museum and I would like to ask you what is on the foregrip of the gun? The image is quite small has not too good quality but maybe you can figure it out.
I love this thread!
Regards, Gabor
162478
Top weapon? That's a HK23A1, basically, as Steak already suspected, a HK21 converted to 5.56mm.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/637/udtsealsmuseumhk23a1stodotjpg

nagyI
08-20-2011, 07:31 AM
You are right. I didn't expect that gun :O Thanx!

Dave76
10-15-2011, 01:07 PM
Since all pics posted since August have been lost, I'm going to repost the ones I uploaded. Here we go:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/140/sasrreconteamnam01dotjpg

An Austrailian [sic] SAS recon team getting ready to go out on patrol. A New Zealander pilot in background.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/482/sasrreconteamnam02dotjpg

Austrailian [sic] SAS team checking their gear just prior to insertion.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6607/sasrreconteamnam03dotjpg

SAS team suited up and ready load up on the helicopter.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6075/sasrreconteamnam04dotjpg

Headed for the UH-1D slick to get inserted on patrol. The two Kiwi pilots flew the insertion and we coverd them with our gunships.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/18/sasrreconteamnam05dotjpg

SAS loading up for insertion.

flanker7
10-15-2011, 01:36 PM
Some of the very best posted here. Thank you

Dave76
10-16-2011, 08:25 AM
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3807/stdearthangelcroppeddotjpg

ARVN STD 'Earth Angel' team dressed in North Vietnamese uniforms prepare for insertion into Cambodia, 1971.

charlesclark
01-20-2012, 03:36 PM
hi guys thought i would add to this forum heres one of my pops.

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weekendsoldier
01-21-2012, 08:59 AM
This thread is pure greatness.


Major Larry Thorne (a.k.a Lauri Törni) in Vietnam.

These pics were just floating around so I don't have much info. I assume they're from '65.
If someone needs more info I'll be back in a week and probably with more pics.


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9708/lauritrfr0.jpg


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9306/trni2mz6.jpg

Say, is there a higher res version of this last picture (see below) of Thorne before his dissapearence?

charlesclark
02-23-2012, 04:36 PM
does anyone have any links out to any PRU related material? Very hard to find anything.

nougabol
03-06-2012, 04:56 AM
Some SEAL I refound on my drive...cool stuffz, love the cutdown 60's and Stoners

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/MikeSands.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/JohnChalus.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/billyburbank10.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/billyburbank07.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/billyburbank06.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/barcusvietnam031.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/barcusvietnam027.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/barcusvietnam026.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/barcusvietnam021.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/londerzeel/barcusvietnam000.jpg

TET SURVIVOR
03-14-2012, 09:53 PM
MACV-SOG, Advisors, LRRP teams, SAS, ROK? Dont wanna sound too green but can someone let me know what these stand for?

MACV stands for Millitary Assistance Command Viet Nam who were the first and longest serving unit in Viet Nam. Advisors were mostly Special Forces teams from MACV that advised the ARVN (Army Republic Viet-Nam) and lived with the ARVN. SOG stands for Special Operations Group, not sure but I believe it included Special Forces, Seals, and Marine Recon, and Marine CAP (Combined Action Patrol) teams. LRRP was Long Range Recon Patrol, made up of Airborne and regular Infantry. SAS was Special Air Service. Englands special forces. ROK was Republic Of Korea Marines Which I had very little respect for. I was in a MACV unit in I Corp in 1968, went thru the TET offensive there. I am glad that there are people who want to learn about the history of our Armed Forces. TET SURVIVOR

grendel
03-14-2012, 09:57 PM
^ The "SAS" that this thread is referring to is the Australian SAS ;)

charlesclark
03-14-2012, 09:57 PM
I am glad that there are people who want to learn about the history of our Armed Forces. TET SURVIVOR

There is so much good history here to learn. I've been studying for years! great stories, and triumphs. I still want to learn more.

digrar
03-14-2012, 10:01 PM
SAS was Special Air Service. Englands special forces.

England don't have an Army and the People of Wales, Scotland and Northern Island prefer the term Britain's Special Forces. At any rate, there were precious few British SAS in country, all sneaky buggers on exchange, the people normally referred to as SAS would be Australian SASR and New Zealand SAS troops.

charlesclark
03-14-2012, 10:01 PM
i have a small set of images if anyone wants to take a look at as well. mostly vietnam era. PRU from Phang Rang

http://www.flickr.com/photos/charleswclark/sets/72157624073582826/with/4716901767/

JUNKHO
03-14-2012, 10:03 PM
MACV -- Military Assistance Command, Vietnam
SOG -- Studies and Observations Group

grendel
03-14-2012, 10:25 PM
Australian Army Training Team Vietnam (AATTV) aka "The Team"


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9683/aatv1.jpg



Early members of AATTV: (left to right) WO2 R.S.Simpson, WO2 L.G.McGarry, Capt I.C.Teague, Capt N.F.Delahunty, and an unidentified WO. Simpson (later awarded the Victoria Cross) wears a maroon beret with the RAR's brass 'Skippy' badge, and standard JGs with his WO's crown rank badge on the upper sleeve. McGarry has the same beret with an additional US badge; his US first pattern tropical combat uniform has shoulder straps and exposed pocket buttons. Teague wears the same uniform with the Australian Commando Companies' green beret. Delahunty's 1950s pattern JGs have box-pleated pockets with scalloped flaps, and rank slides with black embroidered 'RAA' titles; his dark blue Artillery beret bears both the RAA officer's bullion badge, and the pin-on metal crest of US Special Forces. The WO at right wears standard JGs with shortened sleeves, a British 44 Pattern belt, and the pocket patch of the ARVN unit to which he is adviser.




http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4072/aatv2xpgsf.jpg



Sgt K.A.Edwards instructs Montagnard 'strikers' in the Central Highlands. Like the officer at left (identified by a holstered pistol - a mark of status among Vietnamese), Edwards wears the indigenous 'tiger-*****e' camouflage uniform with matching short-brimmed jungle hat. The rank of sergeant was unusual in the AATTV, most members being warrant officers; later in the war an intake of corporals was accepted to boost Team numbers.




http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3293/aatv3.jpg



WO2 Keith Payne VC, September 1969. In May of that year Payne's 212 Coy, 1st Mike Force Bn was attacked by a large enemy force. Although wounded, Payne rallied his unit under intense small arms, RPG and mortar fire, and established a defensive perimeter, which he left four times to recover a wounded US adviser and several other casualties. He then managed to extricate his party of three advisers and some 40 Montagnard strikers through enemy-held territory, a feat for which he was awarded the Victoria Cross.

Here, he wears the AMF 'Rising Sun' patch lower than usual, above his crown badge of rank. The presentation of the USSF green beret to soldiers of another country was a rare honour; Payne bears his RAR brass cap badge on the usual 5th SF Group patch.

grendel
03-14-2012, 10:26 PM
England don't have an Army and the People of Wales, Scotland and Northern Island prefer the term Britain's Special Forces. At any rate, there were precious few British SAS in country, all sneaky buggers on exchange, the people normally referred to as SAS would be Australian SASR and New Zealand SAS troops.

LOL. I forgot about the Kiwis.

digrar
03-14-2012, 10:42 PM
Captain Ian Teague had an interesting war, he ended up working for CIA creating a widespread crew of "Peoples Action Teams" and from them he drew Counter Terror assassination squads to basically out VC the VC. Ted Serong was tied up in it and it was Barry Petersen's downfall when he didn't get on board with the concept.

ferguson
03-14-2012, 11:27 PM
MACV advisory teams were not manned by Special Forces.

They were made up from leg units with no particularly specific training and advised the RF/PF program.
"regional force-popular force."

Special Forces ran the "Civilian Irregular Defense Group" program.
These were the A Teams out in the remote border camps. It was the basic SF mission in RVN.
We were specifically trained for this work all over the world.
Because of unique training and qualifications, SF guys were used for other jobs like SOG and Mike Force.
Late in the war, the CIDG and A Camps were turned over to RF/PF and ARVN Rangers.

Try doing some literary research on your own, rather than internet discussions. Good way to learn things.

grendel
03-14-2012, 11:30 PM
Captain Ian Teague had an interesting war, he ended up working for CIA creating a widespread crew of "Peoples Action Teams" and from them he drew Counter Terror assassination squads to basically out VC the VC. Ted Serong was tied up in it and it was Barry Petersen's downfall when he didn't get on board with the concept.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that a lot more Australians were involved in running assassination squads for the CIA at that time.

grendel
03-14-2012, 11:36 PM
Australian SASR


http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7683/sasr1.jpg


Trooper Stephen Rodgers of 1 Sqn patrols in dense jungle. The ERDL camouflage uniform is worn with a Vietnamese-made beret in matching fabric - a popular choice in SASR. Its multi-stitched shoulder straps identify his pack as a captured NVA rucksack or a local copy. His belt kit is typically eccentric: a belt made from some kind of 37 Pattern strap, with single pockets cut from a US BAR belt and adapted to hang low on the hips.




http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8504/sasr2.jpg


May 1970: a patrol from 1 Sqn return to Nui Dat courtesy of a UH-1B of No.9 Sqn RAAF...




http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2320/sasr3.jpg


Although out of focus, this photograph still shows an interesting display of weapons by 2 Sqn SASR at SAS Hill, Nui Dat in 1970.

(Top) An SLR with carrying handle, flash suppressor and sling swivels removed, and a forward pistol grip added.

(Second) All the usual modifications, plus entire forearm removed, and XM148 40mm grenade launcher added.

(Third) US M14, apparently unmodified - it used the same 7.62mm ammunition as the SLR, but its presence in the SASR inventory at this date is unexplained.

(Fourth) SLR with barrel, gas return and forearm 'chopped' by the squadron armourer, reducing overall length by about 12ins - often referred to as the 'carbine' version. Rails for mounting a telescopic sight have been welded to the top cover.

(Bottom) Another M14, this one subjected to a barrel-chop, and with an SLR pistol grip added to the handguard.




http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4341/sasr4.jpg


Spring 1971: a 2 Sqn SASR patrol member expresses his appreciation at being photographed - his relaxed air and lack of headgear suggests that the patrol is over and an LZ is being secured for helicopter extraction. Of particular interest is the barely recognizable M60 machine gun reconstructed in the squadron workshop. The handguard and bipod have been removed, the barrel shortened, and an SLR pistol grip has been added off-set half way along the barrel.




http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5368/sasr5.jpg


April 1971: No.25 Patrol, F Tp, 2 Sqn SASR. All wear WRDL camouflage uniform, with netting sweat scarves and (though hidden here) US jungle boots. Webbing is the usual M1956 with SAS additions. Trooper Don Barnby (second left) wears the unique 40mm grenade pouch harness and carries the M16/XM148 rifle/grenade launcher combination. The trooper at rear right has the US grenadier's vest, with the upper row of pockets for the longer illumination rounds removed. At front left, note the US 'Ka-Bar' knife taped to the harness, and the 'chopped' SLR with additional off-set forward pistol grip.




http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9794/sasr6.jpg


A camouflage-painted 2 Sdn. ASAS Patrol prepares for take-off on a UH-1B in 1971. The foreground man has an M203 grenade launcher, and the one behind him an XM148 GL, both mounted on M16s. The man to the left has an FN L1A1 rifle.



http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9564/sasr8.jpg

Grizzly_NL
03-15-2012, 07:23 AM
@ Charlesclark ,Are those pics of your dad's tour? Nice pics...

Steak-Sauce
08-08-2012, 03:08 AM
Hope this is not a repost:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s76hLt3-hHo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVnkGNI8AQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdPCpG2qzCw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa1Al_NPnIg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBnX_z6X7Ns

In best Discovery Channel style, but at least it includes some nice footage.