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obd
05-20-2004, 01:01 PM
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20040519205109990003

What a load of ****....A fat ass idiot lecturing POW John McCain on sacrifice and war.....Jeez the Republicans have no shame even amongst themselves......Dennis Hastert is just a fat old politician while John McCain is a real man who stands for what he believes in and not doesnt tow the party line.........HAstert has no buisness whatsoever lecturing John McCain on sacrifice in war....McCain knows all too well what it means to sacrifice for your country......

Maybe Speaker Hastert should get off his fat arse and go to Iraq himself and then maybe he will know what it means to sacrifice...

War is olf fat men talking and young men dying......Too many times when these ****ing polticians speak of sacrifice it is not thier own sacrifice they are willing to make but someone elses life.......bunch of fat ****ing hypocrites....

McCain is one of the few honorable politicians on either side left.....

moughoun
05-20-2004, 01:12 PM
I know what you mean OBD, I choked on my cornflake's when I heard that ****

JiJoMacLE45
05-20-2004, 01:17 PM
John McCain could hit a school bus with a dump truck after a night of drinking at a strip club and I'd still think the guy is a friggin' stud! Just as long as he doesn't run w/ Kerry.

scm77
05-20-2004, 01:20 PM
If I was Mc Cain, I would have bitch-slapped the guy.

obd
05-20-2004, 01:34 PM
Speaker Dennis Hastert exemplifies all that is wrong with the Republican party...He is just a fat arse old rich neo conservative asshole with no connection to Americans outside of the bible belt born again nutbag culture in the deep south......Ugh.

obd
05-20-2004, 01:41 PM
Here is John McCains response to Hasterts idiocy:

Quote of John McCain


"The speaker (Hastert) is correct in that nothing we are called upon to do comes close to matching the heroism of our troops". "All we're called upon to do is not spend our nation into bankruptcy while our soldiers risk their lives. I fondly remember a time when real Republicans stood for fiscal responsibility."

Midtown
05-20-2004, 01:47 PM
I REALLY REALLY wish McCain would have run for prezzie. He woulda had my vote in a second, I have tons of respect for him.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-20-2004, 03:28 PM
Whoa now. This is just a non-story pushed by a press eager to create the appearance of "tension" and disunity in the Republican party. Oooh maybe Kerry will run with McCain. Sheesh.

These two guys simply differ on economic policy. Dennis Hastert believes that tax cuts spur the economy, which in turn raises tax revenues. McCain believes the only way to increase tax revenues is to raise taxes. McCain is more in the Democrat camp than he'd like to believe.

Both guys want the same thing of course - more money to play with. They just differ on how to get it.

IMHO, Hastert saying

"If you want to see sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda (two Washington area military hospitals). There's the sacrifice in this country. We're trying to make sure that they have the ability to fight this war, that they have the wherewithal to be able to do it. And at the same time, we have to react to keep this country strong not only militarily but economically. We want to be able to have the flexibility to do it. That's my reply to John McCain." isn't a "lecture"...it's just dumb. Hastert thinks that following McCain's formula would hurt the economy & our troops. But I don't believe that military service is a prerequisite for having an opinion.

Tane Angle
05-20-2004, 03:45 PM
If you want to see sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda
That is out of line to say to a man who stayed, knowing he would be tortured, because he believed that he should not leave men behind. Senator Hastert was extremely out of place.

By the way, I tend to agree with McCain's comment on fiscal spending. Many Republicans today, especially "neo-cons," are not "historically conservative." Historically, conservatives were "small-government." Today, the over-spending, elements of the Patriot Act, the fact that they even get involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage(regardless of stance on the issue, the notion of the government getting involved at all is very "big government"), and other stances are not exactly "historically conservative." Today, some have tried to over-govern.

There's essentially three wars going on, the econonmy isn't doing so great, unemployment is too high, the nation has gone from a huge surplus to a huge deficit in record time, and the President and some people in Congress want to talk about prohibiting two people who love one another from sharing health insurance coverage or claiming the title of a "married couple"? Jeez, is that where my tax dollars are going, to pay a bunch of rich white guys to sit in a room and talk about superfluous issues? I don't have a problem with paying my taxes when I know that they're talking about nation-critical issues, but the idea of even mentioning a gay marriage-prohibiting amendment to the US Constitution is so irrelevant compared to the fact that we've lost 900 American lives in Iraq and our military doesn't even know if it's doing the right thing by being here.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

Trigger
05-20-2004, 03:58 PM
Speaker Dennis Hastert exemplifies all that is wrong with the Republican party...He is just a fat arse old rich neo conservative asshole with no connection to Americans outside of the bible belt born again nutbag culture in the deep south......Ugh.

Feel free to generalize numbnuts. :roll:


Hastert spent the first 16 years of his career as a government and history teacher at Yorkville High School, and it also was there that he met his wife, Jean, a fellow teacher. In addition to teaching, he coached football and wrestling and led the Yorkville High School Foxes to victory at the 1976 Illinois State Wrestling Championship; later that year, he was named Illinois Coach of the Year. Hastert, a former high school and college wrestler himself, was inducted as an Outstanding American into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, Oklahoma, in 2000. In 2001, the United States Olympic Committee named him Honorary Vice President of the American Olympic movement.
From his bio (http://www.house.gov/hastert/bio.shtml)
Sounds like they had to practically tear the silver spoon from his 'rich, neocon' mouth.

Cambridge Rabbit
05-20-2004, 03:59 PM
I REALLY REALLY wish McCain would have run for prezzie. He woulda had my vote in a second, I have tons of respect for him.

He ran in 2000 and lost to Bush.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-20-2004, 04:43 PM
I'll be the first one to point the finger at the administration for spending too much. And I'm not thrilled with increasing the size of government (outside of the military of course).

But the cure for spending too much is not to raise my taxes.

If you think about it...these are actions of the conservatives (neo or otherwise) who have to fight tooth and nail to get what they get. Can you imagine the socialist paradise we'd have if the opposition was in control?

Seems to me, western society always moves to the left...until there's some shock to the system that yanks things back to the right. Now even our right wingers are fairly far on the left. JFK, posterboy for the Democrats, would now be considered a far right winger. In fact, his economic policies were in line with Reagan's (lower taxes to raise revenues).

Society only seems to be able to move so far to the left before a massive centralized government needs to be created to maintain control of what has become nearly anarchy. Maybe that's what we're witnessing here?

I was hoping for the future as shown in Woody Allen's Sleeper. So far, i'm disappointed...

chauncy republicans
05-20-2004, 07:34 PM
Speaker Dennis Hastert exemplifies all that is wrong with the Republican party...He is just a fat arse old rich neo conservative asshole with no connection to Americans outside of the bible belt born again nutbag culture in the deep south......Ugh.
HELL YAEH!!! woot [/b]