Big Cat Loose In The Neighborhood!

[platform389]

Link to vid:
http://cbs5.com/news/local/2004/05/17/Mt%2E_Lion_Killed_in_Palo_Alto.html

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid117/p2c147927ebc84baf34807061f7557039/f89e4efe.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid117/pa769b99702cfded34c25600ac2699952/f89e4f08.jpg

woot

[American Patriot]

That was a tricked out AR!!

[Marmot1]

EOTECH?

[American Patriot]

Looked like Eotech 510

[Herrmannek]

Bitch, she just wanted to have that trophy... and I even don't want to call owner's name...

[MolliG]

Arr, poor thing. At least it only took one quick shot. :|

As for the AR15/M16, a modified Bushmaster "Dissipator"? :)

[muede]

So much for 5.56mm being "weak"... she killed that "beast" with one well placed shot, and the animal didnt have much steam after that...

Anyways RIP to the feline, didnt do anything wrong, what a shame. :|

[He219]

Palo Alto.
Figures they carry M4's for all the rowdy Stanford types in lieu of tranquilizer guns ..
;)

Here we bag 'em and release them into the wild. After all, we are encroaching into their habitat.
:(

[gary-amsterdam]

a beautiful creature was killed for nothing, it was chased by a dog and its conciderd dangerouse ? Just listening to the bull**** american reported made me twitch, and all you guys are talking about is what the sight on the gun is lol.

[platform389]

all you guys are talking about is what the sight on the gun is lol.

Yeah, that pesky American "gun culture" is annoying isn't it? :D

My next AR15 later this fall will likely have an EOTech like this as well. All of mine presently have the Aimpoint, but I want at least one of these.

[He219]

a beautiful creature was killed for nothing, it was chased by a dog and its conciderd dangerouse ? Just listening to the bull**** american reported made me twitch, and all you guys are talking about is what the sight on the gun is lol.

You probably don't have lions or big cats like that in your parts, gary-amsterdam!


Sunday 11 January 2004 @ 13:52:49

In Southern California, one man is dead and a woman mountain biker seriously injured after separate attacks that happened late on Thursday, 8th January, on a popular trail in Whiting Ranch Wilderness Park, an area close to the Cleveland National Forest, in south Orange County.
Mark Jeffrey Reynolds, 35, was killed by a mountain lion as he repaired a broken chain according to reports. The Cougar then attacked Anne Hjelle and tried to drag her off trail by the head as fellow riders threw rocks at the animal and tried to pull her away. She is now in hospital recovering from her injuries.

“The Sierra Foothills mountain lion population is dense, as populations go. People need to be aware.” said wildlife biologist Patrick Foy of the state Department of Fish and Game. Wildlife officials believe there are between 4,000 and 6,000 mountain lions in the state, primarily in the foothills east of Sacramento and along the Coast Range, north of San Francisco.

Police later shot a 2 year old Male Mountain Lion that they believed was responsible for the attacks.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1236


January 27th, 2004

SANTA ANA -- A mountain lion that was shot and killed by authorities in an Orange County wilderness park on Jan. 8 was responsible for the death of one bike rider and a vicious attack on another, sheriff’s deputies said Monday.

The confirmation came from tests of human tissue, including a human liver found in the male lion’s stomach, sheriff’s spokesman Jim Amormino said. The results prompted officials to reopen the park as of 7 a.m. today. It will close each day at dusk.

The body of Mark Reynolds, 35, was found partially buried near his bike.

Earlier that day, Anne Hjelle, 30, was rescued from the jaws of the mountain lion by her cycling partner, who clung to her legs, and other mountain bikers who threw rocks at the animal as it tried to drag her away.

Deputies shot the 2-year-old, 110-pound male mountain lion after it was seen close to the site where Reynolds’ body was found.

"The DNA in the stomach came back with a DNA match for Mark Reynolds," Amormino said. "Blood on his paws came back a match with Anne Hjelle."

Reynolds apparently had crouched down to fix a broken bicycle chain when he was attacked by the cat.

Before the maulings of Reynolds and Hjelle, there had only been about a dozen recorded attacks on humans in California since 1890, resulting in five deaths
http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/stories2004/state/20040127014831.shtml

[Macs.]

You shouldnt underestimate mountain lions.
Althrough they are beautiful animals, they are damn fast and dangerously.

[shrek]

And who do they go to for a counter-opinion? An animal rights group! What in Gods name did they think he would say!!

[Colt45]

kill or be killed my friend. when you believe that it will not hurt you, that is what makes you weak...

[Herrmannek]

If you would be that cat would you wan't to be shot by furr thirsty woman with even can't do head shot to cat lying without motion 10 metres from her... I say revoke womens right to bear arms....

[Marmot1]

So much for 5.56mm being "weak"... she killed that "beast" with one well placed shot, and the animal didnt have much steam after that...

Anyways RIP to the feline, didnt do anything wrong, what a shame. :|

Well...after your 5.56 that cat was still able to get on his own like 15m (50ft), after 30-06 hit you would have to colect his parts from whole yard.

[Macs.]

Hmm, I don' think the 5.56 was the problem, I think her shot wasn't good placed.

Last month there was a bull on a highway in germany, and a Police Officer did kill it with a MP5.

[Herrmannek]

Hmm, I don' think the 5.56 was the problem, I think her shot wasn't good placed.

Last month there was a bull on a highway in germany, and a Police Officer did kill it with a MP5.

Bucher, how much mags he used ?

[American Patriot]

The Germans need to learn from the Palo Alto police to keep a patrol rifle in their car trunk.

An MP5 against a bull is just wrong.

[muede]

The Germans need to learn from the Palo Alto police to keep a patrol rifle in their car trunk.

An MP5 against a bull is just wrong.

In Europe police often has as their "patrol rifle" a MP5 or semi-automatic version of it. :)

Has something to do with the fact that if the "patrol rifle" was a shotgun the first hit would kill human (buckshots/slugs), no matter what and that rifle calibre weapons in urban setting are dangerous to by standers.... :| (as they "over penetrate" or fly very far away and land only god knows on who/what.)

[American Patriot]

I can't think of any situation where you need to wound a suspect. You either use deadly force or you don't.

Over here shooting a suspect that doesn't present an immediate deadly threat is a no-no.

[DrunkenMaster]

Hmm, I don' think the 5.56 was the problem, I think her shot wasn't good placed.

Last month there was a bull on a highway in germany, and a Police Officer did kill it with a MP5.
watch the next vid on it....through both lungs and heart....sounds well [u]placed to me....but I am sorry that the animal had to die.........could you imagine the story... teenage girl gets mauled to death by mountain lion Palo Alto Police questioned why they did not take appropriate measures. I think maybe a stop in the tracks less lethal is in the near future

[Airborneranger4israel]

stupid bich, she could have waited for the tranq gun. or if she had no choice she could have disabled it by shooting it in the leg.
poor lion RIP : :fork: (

[Otsoa]

One can really see the difference regarding the views about mountain lions.....you can really tell who lives in an urban area or a rural area. Around my parts, these critters can be very dangerous to women and small children when food is scarce. Many have been attacked and in some cases killed by a mountain lion. During times when the cats are active, it is not a big surprise to see people in the bush packing a 30-30 or a shotgun for defence when all other options have failed. Regarding the shot placement, the best shot is not the head, the heart/lung shot is. Too many things can go wrong if one tries to go for a head or shoulder shot on an animal.

[elguapo]

I say shoot the stupid retriever too for chasing the cat into the city it's his fault

[AFG]

stupid bich, she could have waited for the tranq gun. or if she had no choice she could have disabled it by shooting it in the leg.
poor lion RIP : :fork: (


f*** that think of the children!
:P

[Colt45]

You dumbasses, yall ever hunt an animal before? The shot was well placed. Instinctly, if your an animal and your ass got shot, you would be hauling ass also. Even though it does not seem possible for him to travel that far after being shot, it can happen. And for you guys that are throwing the "fur collector" coments, knock it the hell off, she is a COP....

BTW to you city slickers, shooting it in the leg will not always necessarily disable it. The most active working part in its leg is about 3-5 inches wide from a broad side shot, hope to god you dont pass right through the muscle. Because then, he gets the chance to "shoot" back. So Just smoke his ass...

[dacanadianbomb]

The decision to shoot it was IMHO the proper one. If it had awoken, and then decided it didnt like all the commotion and ran off, you would have had a hell of a time trying to shoot the thing then.Good decision to pop it while you have the chance. If there had been a tranq gun onsite at the time, I would have opted for something like that.
Yes the german cops had to shoot a cow actually it wasnt a bull as far as I remember. Dont know how much ammo he used but im sure it wasnt one shot. The thing had gotten out of a crashed transport I think, and was running all over the highway, doing equastrian like jumps over the steel medians.

[Ghostwolf]

Hmm, I don' think the 5.56 was the problem, I think her shot wasn't good placed.

Last month there was a bull on a highway in germany, and a Police Officer did kill it with a MP5.

I thought so too. If a shot is place right in the heart or in the head,
the animal would just drop from the tree and then died, instead of
running around the block after getting shot.

[Mark Sman]

I accidentlly walked up on a bobcat in the woods once. Got lucky, he never saw or smelled me. I stopped and he walked away. Was pretty cool after the fact, but a little startling at the moment.

I was walking a trail looking at some tracks, the last thing I thought before I saw him was "Wow this dog sure has big paws."

Anywho, this cat had to be taken out, too bad they couldn't get the trank gun up quickly.

[iflu]

anyway. I think that they should manage to send the poor lion to a zoo, or killed her if she had got a AK in her hand...

[Rilence]

stupid bich, she could have waited for the tranq gun. or if she had no choice she could have disabled it by shooting it in the leg.
poor lion RIP : :fork: (
rofl you guys crack me up! rofl

[MolliG]

...or if she had no choice she could have disabled it by shooting it in the leg.
... And have it run off, in pain, to eventually collapse, say under a tree, and then become fly-blown... Slowly dieing starved, poisoned and with a leg full of eggs/maggots…

The decision taken was the best for both, the animal, and the residents. :)

[oldsoak]

...or if she had no choice she could have disabled it by shooting it in the leg.
... And have it run off, in pain, to eventually collapse, say under a tree, and then become fly-blown... Slowly dieing starved, poisoned and with a leg full of eggs/maggots…

The decision taken was the best for both, the animal, and the residents. :)

I'd go with that. Never ever shoot to wound an animal. If you loose them, they are on to a slow lingering death, which isnt right, or they come back to give problems. A lot of the "man eaters" were found to have wounds that crippled them to the point where they had to take on slower prey like people.

[Herrmannek]

What about Tazers and peper spray :)

[Otsoa]

Tazers and pepper spray don't mean **** when it comes to a mountain lion. Like anyone in their right mind would want to test out the effects of a ranged tazer on a cat that can pull down a 150+lbs person and kill them when they feel threatened or hungry. Pepper spray would only irratate the kitty further. Even if a company was to create a ranged tazer to deter animals from attacking, animal rights groups would be on that company like flies on **** and taking them to court for animal cruelty

[Airborneranger4israel]

The cops could have

1. Kept anyone from entering the surrounding area.
2. wait untill the lion acutally moved out of tree to shot it.
come on, you saw it was just waking up, if they had waited just a couple of minutes the tranq gun might have arrived. But the children are the priority and i understand your feeling on this issue.

[Colt45]

With dangerous animals like that, you usually dont have a couple of minutes... You can really tell the city slickers from the rest of the group ;)

[Herrmannek]

Tazers and pepper spray don't mean **** when it comes to a mountain lion. Like anyone in their right mind would want to test out the effects of a ranged tazer on a cat that can pull down a 150+lbs person and kill them when they feel threatened or hungry. Pepper spray would only irratate the kitty further. Even if a company was to create a ranged tazer to deter animals from attacking, animal rights groups would be on that company like flies on **** and taking them to court for animal cruelty

Don't Bull**** Me ;)... I just regret cat and that "bitch" gets his/her furr :)

[MolliG]

The cops could have

1. Kept anyone from entering the surrounding area.
2. wait untill the lion acutally moved out of tree to shot it.
come on, you saw it was just waking up, if they had waited just a couple of minutes the tranq gun might have arrived. But the children are the priority and i understand your feeling on this issue.

1. The Police then would have to deal with keeping the crowd back, dealing with the congestion, watching the animal and dealing with pissed off mothers trying to get home. Stressful for both the animal, Police and public.

2. The animal would have the advantage. The Police would then most likely have to take it down whilst it's on the move which could lead to; the rounds ending up in places they shouldn't be, the animal being hit but making off to die as I posted above, the animal being hit multiple times and maybe having to be killed, in front of a crowd, whilst lying helpless in agony, et cetera, et cetera...

[Graeme]

Evidently a number of people here have never shot a large animal. Couple of things should be noted, you don't aim to wound, you aim to kill. Aiming to kill does NOT mean you aim for the head. In many cases with larger game, aiming for the chest/between the front legs is the way to put the animal down in one shot. Going for head shots is risky, things can go wrong, you can miss the brain itself and leave the animal injured. I've seen a deer scalped by a .243, and have it run from the shooter. I've seen similar things with rabbits. Some animals will still run even with a lethal shot in them, its a natural reaction, they won't get far though.