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Geborendafur
12-30-2007, 01:54 PM
Hi,

Maybe this is a repost but I'm quite new on this website and I don't know how to use it well yet:oops:

I need pictures with Special Forces Operators wearing multicam.

If you have some, thanks a lotp-)

Remington Rand
12-30-2007, 01:57 PM
There are a number of other threads on this I think. Anyway, from reading a few, I'm not sure that any SF use Multicam. I saw a picture on this forum of a soldier wearing it, but think it is a promo shot from the crye precision website. You'll get plenty of responses on this one, seems to be a hot topic.

RR

Sato
12-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Polish GROM adopted a slightly modified version of it recently.

Pictures can be found @

Polish Soldiers all over the World. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76583&highlight=polish)

GROM (Polish SF Unit) (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1519&highlight=polish)

Rosa Jonas
12-30-2007, 03:06 PM
Slighty? AFAIK they reduced it down two colors, darkened it a whole lot and made the entire pattern smaller scaled.

It looks a whole lot better though, imo.

TallGuy
12-30-2007, 03:41 PM
Slighty? AFAIK they reduced it down two colors, darkened it a whole lot and made the entire pattern smaller scaled.


Two colors? The Polish version looks very similar to the original Multicam:

Polish:



Crye Multicam:

Rosa Jonas
12-30-2007, 03:44 PM
Yeah, well it looks like they only got rid of the lime green.

seraosha
12-30-2007, 03:49 PM
What exactly is the screaming hard-on folks have for Multicam?

It's beyond any kind of MARPAT vs ACU vs AirforcePAT(whatever)
It's like a cult...what gives?

maple.leaf
12-30-2007, 04:02 PM
Two colors? The Polish version looks very similar to the original Multicam:

Polish:



Crye Multicam:


Looks EXACTLY the same to me. After all, if it's "MultiCam" then there's only the one authentic pattern - anything else wouldn't be MultiCam.

Hav218
12-30-2007, 04:23 PM
What exactly is the screaming hard-on folks have for Multicam?

It's beyond any kind of MARPAT vs ACU vs AirforcePAT(whatever)
It's like a cult...what gives?

If you've ever seen it in the field you will realize how amazingly effective it is.

Catch22
12-30-2007, 04:56 PM
Just one color was removed from the pattern, the report was squeezed to 64 cm. Now this copycat "Suez" is being used by some GROM, BOR and CBS operatives here. Current uniform differs in many details and cut from what Crye or SKD presents.

From my range pics, earlier in December:



Works OK in dry vegetation and direct sunlight.

maple.leaf
12-30-2007, 06:06 PM
Catch - do you have any close-up photos of the pattern / coloration?

Rosa Jonas
12-30-2007, 06:06 PM
The darker kind of reminds me of the vegetato in direct sunlight.

Catch22
12-30-2007, 06:50 PM
Will my leg do? I dont have the pendrive with right photos around...

Cpl.K
12-30-2007, 07:19 PM
If you've ever seen it in the field you will realize how amazingly effective it is.

I have seen it with my own eyes and it's just a 50/50 woodland/arid pattern. There is nothing amazing about it except the hype. If I really would have to choose a "universal" camo leaning on arid environments it would probably be this one, it's pretty good.

Completely unrelated, but your reference of "THE FIELD" somehow magically made my meter go off, is this "THE FIELD" you are talking about :)

California Joe
12-30-2007, 08:13 PM
Completely unrelated, but your reference of "THE FIELD" somehow magically made my meter go off, is this "THE FIELD" you are talking about :)



That's some funny sh*t right there. rofl

Jackass.

Chops
12-30-2007, 09:11 PM
'UKSF' in afghan

They're in Iraq actually. And that's a Stryker although the gents in question are UKSF, but probably not who you think they are... p-)

Hutz
12-30-2007, 09:31 PM
This thread now delivers.

Geborendafur
12-31-2007, 08:31 AM
Thanks a lot Ubar^^.

Another question:

Does anyone know if the 5th Special Forces Group ever used MC, or tested it?

If it is "secret", you can use pm to answer me.

Thanks a lot for all your answers.

By the way, talking about the GROM, are they in "cooperation" for testing the MC?

Excuse me if my english is a little bad^^.

Geborendafur
12-31-2007, 08:35 AM
This thread now delivers.

Well, I don't know what that means, but if my topic is against the rules, please erase it. I know that we should not post some pics on the net, so I don't wanna pass over this rule.

Switek
12-31-2007, 08:35 AM
Looks EXACTLY the same to me. After all, if it's "MultiCam" then there's only the one authentic pattern - anything else wouldn't be MultiCam.

The Polish one is called "SUEZ" And should be labelled that way.

DeltaWhisky58
12-31-2007, 08:42 AM
Well, I don't know what that means, but if my topic is against the rules, please erase it. I know that we should not post some pics on the net, so I don't wanna pass over this rule.

Don't worry your post is fine, doesn't break any rules whatsoever.

Geborendafur
12-31-2007, 08:45 AM
Ok thanks a lot.

Because I'm very interested in 5th SFG and I wanted to know if the use or used or maybe test MC.

Or any other SF group, no matter wich area of responsability they have^^.

Thanks

maple.leaf
12-31-2007, 10:23 AM
Ok thanks a lot.

Because I'm very interested in 5th SFG and I wanted to know if the use or used or maybe test MC.

Or any other SF group, no matter wich area of responsability they have^^.

Thanks

I heard from a reliable source that 5th Group did buy some MC - as a unit purchase - for use in Afghanistan.

Switek - thanks for clearing up the difference between MC and "SUEZ". The pattern viewable on Catch22's leg photo looks good - but it still looks virtually the same as MC to me. Guess I need to see the two patterns side-by-side to notice the difference.

Hispeed1
12-31-2007, 11:32 AM
What exactly is the screaming hard-on folks have for Multicam?

It's beyond any kind of MARPAT vs ACU vs AirforcePAT(whatever)
It's like a cult...what gives?

"MULTI-SCAM"

Hispeed1
12-31-2007, 11:34 AM
Hey dude, did you ask the owner of those if you could post those on the net??? I think not.

Question about the suppressor on that UK operator standing up on the left, is the suppressor on his carbine the Knights Armament one or the one by Surefire? I'd like to think it the issued Knights Armament one issued to US forces, but the pic is a little blurry...

Ubar
12-31-2007, 11:42 AM
They're in Iraq actually. And that's a Stryker although the gents in question are UKSF, but probably not who you think they are... p-)

I stand corrected - Was just repeating what was posted elsewhere



Hey dude, did you ask the owner of those if you could post those on the net??? I think not.

These pics are all over the place online...

Geborendafur
12-31-2007, 11:56 AM
I heard from a reliable source that 5th Group did buy some MC - as a unit purchase - for use in Afghanistan.

Ok thanks, that helps me^^.

snapper036
12-31-2007, 12:34 PM
Hey dude, did you ask the owner of those if you could post those on the net??? I think not.

are you sure they are UKSF as you say.
tha cam isn't DPM and none of the kit looks like anything the british would use

Ghostryder
12-31-2007, 12:46 PM
Question about the suppressor on that UK operator standing up on the left, is the suppressor on his carbine the Knights Armament one or the one by Surefire? I'd like to think it the issued Knights Armament one issued to US forces, but the pic is a little blurry...

Surefire


are you sure they are UKSF as you say.
tha cam isn't DPM and none of the kit looks like anything the british would use

The Union Jack would seem to give it away.

Desertpilot
12-31-2007, 01:48 PM
I stand corrected - Was just repeating what was posted elsewhere




These pics are all over the place online...


Can you point me to them? In the mean time, can you please delete the ones here?

DeltaWhisky58
12-31-2007, 01:59 PM
Can you point me to them? In the mean time, can you please delete the ones here?

The photos to which you refer are not in breach of OPSEC/PERSEC and have previously been discussed by the forum staff. Thnere is no need/reason to delete them.

Desertpilot
12-31-2007, 02:12 PM
The photos to which you refer are not in breach of OPSEC/PERSEC and have previously been discussed by the forum staff. Thnere is no need/reason to delete them.

PM inbound.

DeltaWhisky58
12-31-2007, 02:28 PM
I have deleted the pix, however on your own admission it would seem to be a case of locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. Perhaps not introducing them to the public domain in the first place would have been the best idea.

The same pix are posted in several places elsewhere on MP.Net, but I'm not going looking for them.

Desertpilot
12-31-2007, 06:54 PM
I have deleted the pix, however on your own admission it would seem to be a case of locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. Perhaps not introducing them to the public domain in the first place would have been the best idea.

The same pix are posted in several places elsewhere on MP.Net, but I'm not going looking for them.

That is absolutely what happened. I should have never posted them on the net at all. Thank you for taking them down.

Mrufka
01-01-2008, 04:35 PM
I heard from a reliable source that 5th Group did buy some MC - as a unit purchase - for use in Afghanistan.

Switek - thanks for clearing up the difference between MC and "SUEZ". The pattern viewable on Catch22's leg photo looks good - but it still looks virtually the same as MC to me. Guess I need to see the two patterns side-by-side to notice the difference.

Suez (up) versus MC

Switek
01-01-2008, 04:46 PM
Suez (up) versus MC

I guess that vice versa :|. Suez was initially designed as darker camo pattern than MC.

nickless
01-01-2008, 08:14 PM
The Multicam pattern has brighter and darker areas, so comparing such small swatches won't be of much help.

maple.leaf
01-03-2008, 10:24 AM
I guess that vice versa :|. Suez was initially designed as darker camo pattern than MC.

Ah - that's better. I can see what you mean...

Switek
01-03-2008, 11:20 AM
I've got good news I guess. :). There are some rumours from one uniform and military gear manufacturer that this year, close the spring, uniforms with Suez pattern camouflage will be released on civilian market in Poland.

Mrufka
01-05-2008, 11:18 AM
Switek
U mean this or Suez from Miwo.pl ?

Switek
01-05-2008, 11:23 AM
Switek
U mean this or Suez from Miwo.pl ?

Sure! Is it available in regular sale? I'd love to have one!

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:31 AM
They're in Iraq actually. And that's a Stryker although the gents in question are UKSF, but probably not who you think they are... p-)
Oh Chops you big meany.....if they are "UKSF" that's really only 3 unit's SAS/SBS/SRR right?...and since the SFSG ain't SF.....oh I'm like Sherlock Holmes.....dead in the water,.:oops:

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 11:32 AM
Oh Chops you big meany.....if they are "UKSF" that's really only 3 unit's SAS/SBS/SRR right?...and since the SFSG ain't SF.....oh I'm like Sherlock Holmes.....dead in the water,.:oops:

Think laterally, use your visual powers, what else does the photo tell you - look harder, analyse.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:35 AM
Think laterally, use your visual powers, what else does the photo tell you - look harder, analyse.
DW, I'm Irish....we're very lucky I can turn a PC on, never mind..."Think" things out:|:oops:


Anyway, it's probably best if I don't know

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 11:37 AM
DW, I'm Irish....we're very lucky I can turn a PC on, never mind..."Think" things out:|:oops:


Anyway, it's probably best if I don't know

At the best it can only be guesswork, but there is a good clue there if you look hard. ;-)

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:40 AM
He seems to be wearing some funky patch...didn't thing the Brit's sneaky beakies went in for that


Ah I give up, not for me to know...

mikec62001
01-07-2008, 11:42 AM
The guy on the left in Multicam has his sidearm on his chest webbing.

Is this a better place to have it than on the thigh?..seems like drawing it wouldn't be as quick as on the thigh..I've noticed this a few times in other pictures.

Any thoughts?

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:45 AM
They are from one of the "big 3" though right?....chop's answer to Ubar seem's a little "cryptic, firstr ideas would be obviously the SAS, then SBS....god I'm not good at this sort of stuff and it bug's me, I've seens these pic's plastered all over the place, and there's a different unit mentioned every time....bah

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:50 AM
And then DW leaves me hanging there, dissappearing into the mist.....:-(

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 11:51 AM
They are from one of the "big 3" though right?

Are they, who said that?


chop's answer to Ubar seem's a little "cryptic, firstr ideas would be obviously the SAS, then SBS....god I'm not good at this sort of stuff and it bug's me, I've seens these pic's plastered all over the place, and there's a different unit mentioned every time....bah

You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment - I don't know for sure, I'm just making an educated guess, based on much speculation amongst informed sources.


The guy on the left in Multicam has his sidearm on his chest webbing.

Is this a better place to have it than on the thigh?..seems like drawing it wouldn't be as quick as on the thigh..I've noticed this a few times in other pictures.

Any thoughts?

Oh God, not again - the answer to that one must be printed many times on MP.Net but I think it's called personal preference surely?

Foot soldier as opposed to vehicle borne/AFV crew etc., etc. - think about it.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:53 AM
You know your very good at torturing people DW....meany:-(,

playtym
01-07-2008, 11:55 AM
Where's the pic that all the fuss is about? I've looked laterally, and every other which way, but can't even see the picture, let alone who they are. :|

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 11:56 AM
Took it down, apparently somebody's friend's mate's pal objected to it being up on MP.Net.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 11:58 AM
You couldn't give us a hint DW?...please, with sugar, maybe who it isn't, would that be breaking the rules?

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 11:59 AM
OK - either army, navy, RAF, Royal Marines, Boy Scouts or Sally Ann (that's Salvos to you guys down under).

As I said, I don't know for sure, and the same clue is there for all of you.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:01 PM
Fair enough, had to try

clue....clue......hmmm

Ubar
01-07-2008, 12:02 PM
If you look closely one of them has a pair of oakleys attached to their vest....

What more evidence could you need?

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:04 PM
My God your right!!!

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:04 PM
This is going to bug the balls off me, it's probably really simple, and I'm missing it.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:07 PM
clue's, can I run though what I see on the photo here DW, kind of get it written down and try and work it out?

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:13 PM
Ok, 2 guy's wearing MC, guy who posted pic's said they were Brit's,
look to be carring Dimacos,
1 has a UJ patch
they look like Brit's with their hair...weird but it just looks the part
1 has a weird "red and dark blue/black" patch on his shoulder and a 2 letter one on the other
unusual that if they were Brit's he doesn't seem to mind his pic being taken, even posing for it with an American...maybe they do, just seems odd to me.

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 12:15 PM
You've had all your getting on this one. If you haven't worked it out by now, best forget it, I have.

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:16 PM
It's like that photo of those Brits in Basra when the heli was shot down, and there were a couple of guy's in Brit DPM, with Demacos, chops said they were not "scruffy" enough to be SF....


should I just chalk this one down to "I'll never get it", and move on with my sad life?

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:17 PM
Alright, I'm done....

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 12:21 PM
Anyhow, in the next issue of that slightly walty mag "combat and survival", theres an article on USAF STS guy's and they are wearing MC, I'll see if I can pick it up and maybe pop a few photos up.

mikec62001
01-07-2008, 12:41 PM
Army Rangers wearing multicam

playtym
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
Took it down, apparently somebody's friend's mate's pal objected to it being up on MP.Net.

LOL!

A quick search produced...

SAS in MC in Iraq
Just got this pic from a good friend in one of the SBCT's in Iraq and he had the fortune of meeting up with some SAS dudes last month in the AO and happend to take some pic's for me. To my supprise, look at what the gent' on the left (SAS) is wearing!!!

Pic removed because some dusche bag posted them on milphotos.net

Kap
01-07-2008, 01:03 PM
LOL!

A quick search produced...



Pic removed because some dusche bag posted them on milphotos.net


Hahaha, where was it originally posted then?

muttbutt
01-07-2008, 01:04 PM
The Multicam addicts forum.

Ubar
01-07-2008, 01:05 PM
edit- oops missed the boat with that joke :(

Molli
01-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Lazy sod in the back is playing with his playstation ;-)
Xbox 360, duh! :p

I read recently, that SOCOM are conducting a competition between the Wii Remote and the DualShock3 (in 'Ceramic White' pattern). Anyone have further infomation? Results? Or, is the DualShock2 still holding up well after action in Iraq?

;)

DeltaWhisky58
01-07-2008, 01:18 PM
So are you telling me that those aren't Colonial Space Marines in that photo then?

Hippo
01-07-2008, 03:44 PM
Does anyone else think that muttbutt needs to shut the hell up?

mikec62001
01-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Would Private Defence contractors ever where stuff like that as in military fatigues than civilian stuff?

BrianT
01-07-2008, 09:53 PM
Army Rangers wearing multicamFormer Battboy. Thats a pic from that whole Future Warrior program or whatever.

Kap
01-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Former Battboy. Thats a pic from that whole Future Warrior program or whatever.

PEO Soldier I believe...

muttbutt
01-08-2008, 07:09 AM
Does anyone else think that muttbutt needs to shut the hell up?
The only people on here who can tell me shut up are the mod's and the Admin, and DW has already politely said that to me, so you can go....ect ect

Rosa Jonas
01-08-2008, 07:48 AM
With analyze and usage of clues, I've found out where Muttbutt gets his post count.

DeltaWhisky58
01-08-2008, 07:53 AM
With analyze and usage of clues, I've found out where Muttbutt gets his post count.

Probably the same place you get yours kid - posting pointless crap about digital cammo/multicam! :bash:

muttbutt
01-08-2008, 08:10 AM
With analyze and usage of clues, I've found out where Muttbutt gets his post count.
You seem to be good at this, so maybe you can tell me who they are?....I still have no clue.

muttbutt
01-08-2008, 08:11 AM
1485, woot


I know DW's going to get pissed off at me, so I'll quit now, while I'm so far behind.

muttbutt
02-08-2008, 03:02 PM
AF CCT

nickless
02-08-2008, 03:12 PM
CPCU? What does the acronym stand for?

Steel21
02-08-2008, 03:28 PM
Army Rangers wearing multicam

Those guys are part of the AETF (Army Experimental Task Force). The unit are mostly comprised of combat vets, based out of Ft. Bliss.

The soldier is using the xbox 360 controller to operate a remote vehicle SUGV off screen. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2004/04/63036

I believe that photo was taken at Donna Ana urban village exercise area, North West of McGregor Range.

Nephilim
02-09-2008, 07:06 AM
CPCU? What does the acronym stand for

maybe crye pattern combat uniform? or similar.. who cares...

wild_wild_wes
02-10-2008, 01:21 AM
Hey muttbutt

How about doing everyone a favor and getting another avatar

muttbutt
02-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Hey muttbutt

How about doing everyone a favor and getting another avatarToo much?, ok sorry thought it was mildly amusing.....he wasn't really doing anything though:|

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Frens
06-10-2008, 05:42 AM
little info:
a guy on ar15.com said he saw a some SAS members wearing multicam in Astan

Royal
06-10-2008, 05:46 AM
little info:
a guy on ar15.com said he saw a some SAS members wearing multicam in Astan

In that case he's lying :D

James
06-10-2008, 06:11 AM
I don't think there have been any UK SAS here for some time, but I may be mistaken.

Frens
06-10-2008, 06:30 AM
my fault. I read the thread again.

those guys were UK for sure but being SAS is just a guess since they were equiped with Diemaco L119A1s.

Argyll
06-10-2008, 06:53 AM
I don't think there have been any UK SAS here for some time, but I may be mistaken.

Very Mistaken mate p-)

zad
06-10-2008, 06:58 AM
I don't think there have been any UK SAS here for some time, but I may be mistaken.

You are wrong, PM Macs.

James
06-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Very Mistaken mate p-)

Well okay then. I can imagine where they are... ;)