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Frens
05-20-2004, 03:43 PM
From the SUN (UK)
Posted on 05/16/2004 8:46:27 PM PDT by 1066AD
OUTNUMBERED British soldiers killed 35 Iraqi ( woot ) attackers in the Army’s first bayonet charge since the Falklands War 22 years ago. The fearless Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders stormed rebel positions after being ambushed and pinned down.
Despite being outnumbered five to one, they suffered only three minor wounds in the hand-to-hand fighting near the city of Amara.
The battle erupted after Land Rovers carrying 20 Argylls came under attack on a highway.
After radioing for back-up, they fixed bayonets and charged at 100 rebels using tactics learned in drills.
When the fighting ended bodies lay all over the highway — and more were floating in a nearby river. Nine rebels were captured.
An Army spokesman said: “This was an intense engagement.”
woot woot woot woot woot GO UK woot woot woot woot woot
Bombtrack
05-20-2004, 03:47 PM
..Hate to burst your bubble but this was already posted a couple days ago
Frens
05-20-2004, 04:00 PM
:( :cantbeli:
LordHalbert
05-20-2004, 04:35 PM
Umm, why use bayonets?
What's wrong with pulling the trigger?
mack pl
05-20-2004, 04:47 PM
/\ im guessing they using bayonets and shooting too :|
LordHalbert
05-20-2004, 04:55 PM
It just seems that so long as you have ammo and you're not jammed, you should shoot.
Bayonets should be a last resort.
I'm suprised that none of the British were killed - i'm sure the enemy had AKs.
Argyll
05-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Umm, why use bayonets?
What's wrong with pulling the trigger?
Because this was a classical section attack in clearing enemy positions,and fixed bayonets is SOP's,when you are trying to flush out insurgents/enemy you don't stand off,you go in up close and personal.
mack pl
05-20-2004, 05:01 PM
/\ ohh,well, im not expert, so maybe you should checked this first thread about it,Im sure some brits(Argyll) post something about british action drills(bayonets etc.).Regards.
Threelions
05-20-2004, 05:15 PM
Umm, why use bayonets?
What's wrong with pulling the trigger?
Because this was a classical section attack in clearing enemy positions,and fixed bayonets is SOP's,when you are trying to flush out insurgents/enemy you don't stand off,you go in up close and personal.
Yea i think this advance to contact section attack drills are pretty much the same the world over!
Cheers
Threelions
05-20-2004, 05:20 PM
and now that i think of it the Argyll's are the sister regiment of my old regiment!! Way to go argylls!
http://www.calgaryhighlanders.com/
Cheers
DANJANOU
05-20-2004, 09:19 PM
It just seems that so long as you have ammo and you're not jammed, you should shoot.
Bayonets should be a last resort.
I'm suprised that none of the British were killed - i'm sure the enemy had AKs.
Ok let's try an experiment.
You play the Iraqi and stand there with your AK at one end of the street, and we'll have the Brit troopie start at the other end. Now lets take into account the experience of the average AK welding insurgent in Iraq. Real tough when it comes to slitting throats of unarmed poor labourers and posing for videos. Probably something picked up after a course of feeding defenceless woman and children into industrial shredders or whatever.
Now however the guy charging at him from a few metres away, bellowing at the top of his lungs is a real trained hardened soldier and he has a BFK* on the end of his assualt rifle.
Oh yeah his fire team buddy is in a proper fire position and laying rounds down on you while the sreaming mad Jock gets closer.... closer with each passing second.
Can you hit him?
Have you just pissed yourself?
Section level fire and movement is still taught because it works, as seen by these troops in Iraq.
*BFK= Big ****in Knife
Midav
05-21-2004, 12:05 AM
Awesome!!
Way to go to kick their ass!
woot woot woot
Abbyy
05-21-2004, 02:22 AM
I'd prefer to charge with this thing attached to my gun (guess what convention prohibited this bayonet as unhuman weapon :) )
http://fww.fromru.com/img/army/russia/mosin2.jpg
AirZone
05-21-2004, 07:33 AM
*nods* Yeah... big mean and angry mofo's walking with big knifes is ****ing scary while shouting with thier huge lungs (after all they run alot) :lol:
Roger Rabbit
05-21-2004, 01:20 PM
This came from here
http://forums.military.com/1/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=78919038&f=409192893&m=921100741
On Friday 14th May parts of the 1st Battalion were involved in an extensive firefight which has been well reported in the Press. The Daily Mail on Monday carried an extensive feature. The events, as I have been able to glean them, are as follows.
Firstly, a Radio Controlled Improvised Incendiary Device (RCIED) was detonated close to a D Coy patrol. 2 NCOs were hurt but have been returned to duty.
The major incident started when OC B Coy, Maj Adam Griffiths, having left Camp Condor was travelling North on Route 6, in the Maysan Area. His two vehicle patrol was ambushed by approximately 10 men. The top cover sentries returned fire and killed two. However, as the area is a Comms blackspot, his patrol was only 8 men the decision was taken to drive through the ambush. Some 4 - 5 miles further on they were hit again. This time a RPG went between the two vehicles, and small arms fire was again taken. They kept driving.
A little further on they came upon an Iraqi Police Permanent Vehicle Check Point (PVCP). The Police ushered them through. A few hundred metres further on they saw about 25-30 armed men taking up firing positions on a Bund, and contact was made. By now Comms were working and he sent the three contact reports.
Firstly, 6 and 7 Platoons (6 Pl being mainly made up of the attached PWRR personnel) went to the first contact point, and were contacted. 6 Platoon provided the Fire Base and 7 Platoon, under 2Lt James Dormer, put in a full flanking Platoon attack. Special mention has been made of the bravery of Sgt Henderson and Cpl Nicol who cleared a trench using White Phosphorous and fire power. Bayonets were fixed, and I believe used, although further details are not being given on this, and needless to say Press speculation has been somewhat overstated. However, 9 men were killed and 1 captured. 2 PWRR soldiers were wounded, but not seriously.
Meanwhile OC B coy was reinforced by soldiers and two Warrior vehicles from the PWRR Battlegroup to whom the Coy is currently working. An attack was made and 25 enemy were killed. The enemy at the second Contact Point thought discretion was the better part of valour and disappeared.
The intelligence feedback has been that the group involved in this action have been seriously set back by these actions.
Threelions
05-21-2004, 02:01 PM
Bottom line, it went down like this because the british soldier is the finest troop in the world! Descended from Saxon mercenaries, Pictish raiders, Viking warriors, a few Roman Legionaires, and BOOM!!! The greatest fighting machine around, able to unite 20% of the world in a single empire, and capable of bayonet charges in an age of lazer guided this that and the other thing!!!
Cheers
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