M 83 Vest

[2/1kiwi]

Hey guys im trying to figure out if this vest is original, theres no tags or markings anywhere on the vest, and the mesh is alot different than the older brown version
Any body know??
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2628/dsc03435yj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1120/dsc03436oh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5428/dsc03437rw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

appears to be well made, not like the viper copies

[Albatross]

I don't know if it is real, but it looks comfortable.

[Kap]

Looks like a generic manufacture of the SAAV.


Most likely not real.

[Lerch]

Couldn't be real with all that green trim and velcro ;)

[2/1kiwi]

Couldn't be real with all that green trim and velcro ;)

they came in grren as well as nutria brown

[The Saint]

The Pathfinder Platoon of the 44 Para Bde got some sets of equiment in OG, but I 'm not sure about a Pat 83 vest.

[digrar]

Apart from the colour there are a few things that are different to mine which was an original. The mag pouch on the large side basic pouches and the top of the back pouch looks different too.

[GREENMILITIA]

Hey guys im trying to figure out if this vest is original, theres no tags or markings anywhere on the vest, and the mesh is alot different than the older brown version
Any body know??

kiwi its an airsoft design and clone of the authentic SADF P83m2-LCE commomly known as the SAAV (south african assault vest) you can find and buy that in any airsoft store while the authentic P83 is a bit hard to find and acquire you may sure do have it but in high price, and in the authentic issue there's no "OD" its all made in in mustard brown and black combo and light canvas on the first issue, some modern milspec repro are now made in cordura, you'll easily notice the clone by its webbings, velcro, slide gliders/adjusters, plastic type mesh on the back and made of ordinary cordura :) there was a limited issue of the authentic trial "exP83" in recce camo with sand brown webbings but it was halted for some reason i don't know why but only a handful few manage to put their hands on it and was able to reach some SADF infantry but was likely set aside and prefer the standard P83m2 i'll try check in my photos save wayback 1998 if its still there hoping it is so i may share with you got it from a friend who send me the P83 straight from Johannesburg wayback!:) hope this info helps a bit my friend!

cheerswoot

[GETSOME]

Just as a matter of interest,the large side pouches were for two ,two litre square water bottels.p-)

[Nick_Karatzides]

Waste of money... :oops:

[exT70]

Hey guys im trying to figure out if this vest is original,

Copy.
Can't properly tell from pic, but mesh, water bottle pockets and dixi pocket looks wrong
Never seen one like it in the past almost 20 years "in".
Experimental real ones (if that) would probably be well used.
Still can't believe how expensive they (Pat 83) are sold for in rest of world. Cheap here.
Talking of knock-offs, molle version Pat83 looks quite nice.
SANDF currently re-evaluating battle jacket. Infantry now Bat run, so looking at beltrig type thing to suit bat requirements, notwithstanding that Pat 83 works much better for line inf.man.

[2/1kiwi]

thanks for all the info guys, guess ive got a lemon, will have to hock to some young soldier lol
cheers

[exT70]

thanks for all the info guys, guess ive got a lemon, will have to hock to some young soldier lol
cheers

Knock-off or not, if it is well made and good materials are used, and it fullfulls whatever it is that it needs to do (ie, as a battle jacket), why worry? Unless you are collecting.

[2/1kiwi]

Knock-off or not, if it is well made and good materials are used, and it fullfulls whatever it is that it needs to do (ie, as a battle jacket), why worry? Unless you are collecting.

wasent really worried if it was a knock off just wanted to know, its gone now scored a new smock for it

[TheWatcher]

Just as a matter of interest,the large side pouches were for two ,two litre square water bottels.p-)

Or the Patrol radio, hence the velcro'ed window for the controls.
Similarly for the top compartment on the rear panel.

[Bokwa]

Hey guys im trying to figure out if this vest is original, theres no tags or markings anywhere on the vest, and the mesh is alot different than the older brown version
Any body know??

appears to be well made, not like the viper copies

Confirmed copy, here are the originals www.camocorp.co.za

[GETSOME]

Or the Patrol radio, hence the velcro'ed window for the controls.
Similarly for the top compartment on the rear panel.
NO,no ,when i was in,in 1986-1987 the patrol radio carried by the section leader was carried behind, top pouch ,if you carried no radio then rations,and left and right to those back pouches on those side straps you carried a tube with a 60mm mortor on each side for the patmor(patrol mortor).p-)

[TheWatcher]

NO,no ,when i was in,in 1986-1987 the patrol radio carried by the section leader was carried behind, top pouch ,if you carried no radio then rations,and left and right to those back pouches on those side straps you carried a tube with a 60mm mortor on each side for the patmor(patrol mortor).p-)

That'll depend on the SOP of the unit, and if you're "lucky" enough to be carrying more than one.
Were you at 1 Bn ?

The Patmor is a real toy, pocket arty ! :)

[GETSOME]

That'll depend on the SOP of the unit, and if you're "lucky" enough to be carrying more than one.
Were you at 1 Bn ?

The Patmor is a real toy, pocket arty ! :)
2SAI ,infantry ,Patmor was fun to use.

[ZULU9niner]

Biomechanical and physiological comparison of conventional webbing and the M83 assault vest


Jeff S. Coombes

a, Chris Kingswellb



a



School of Human Movement Studies, Rm 535 Connell Building, University of Queensland, St Lucia, Queensland, 4072, Australia



b



Centre for Human Movement, University of Tasmania, Launceston, Tasmania 7250, Australia



Received 16 September 2002; accepted 2 September 2004




Abstract




This study compared the effect of load distribution using two different webbing designs on oxygen consumption and running kinematics of soldiers.


It was hypothesised that running with webbing that distributes the load closer to the body (M83 Assault Vest) would expend less energy compared to running with conventional webbing (CON).


Seven soldiers randomly completed three treadmill trials; an unloaded VO2max test, and two loaded (8 kg) efficiency tests using either the M83 or CON webbing.


The VO2max test and the loaded efficiency tests had 4-min stages at 5, 8, 10 and 12kmh1. Energy expenditure was measured via indirect calorimetry and video analysis was used to determine stride frequency (SF) and stride length (SL) during each trial.


Participants using the M83 webbing expended significantly (po0:05) less
energy at all four running velocities compared to the CON trials. The M83 webbing resulted in smaller changes to SL and SF from the unloaded trial when compared to the CON trial.


These results indicate that the M83 vest that is designed to distribute the load closer to the body may have an energy efficiency advantage over conventional webbing when soldiers are running.




On another note:

Shamelessly resurecting this one. Thanks to 2/kiwi for the info during the project

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2645485&postcount=20

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2646446&postcount=24

[sapsornot]

Guys,

There were many original vests in Durban. I got two from a guy in springfield. All i had to do was go through all his stuff and pick what i wanted... you just need to know where to look.

[iam980]

honesty, it is not like real stuff

[GETSOME]

honesty, it is not like real stuff
WTF are you talking about,explain yourself dude?