M203Grips... YAY or NAY?

[DaReFaItH]

I'm looking to get my hands on a foregrip for an M203PI.
ive come across this company, with their products
http://www.m203grip.com/

this looks pretty much exactly what im after, easy on and off without special tools (no armourer s#*tfits... hopefully).

the tactical torch attachment model looks like a good idea, but looks way too long. has anyone had any experiences good/bad with this bit of kit?
is anyone else doing it?

owing to the expense of this item, i would like any feedback before the credit card comes out.

[velvet-cream]

I have no experience with this product, but I have lugged around a GLA for a little while and it can be a pain on the wrist.

However, judging by the photo in the following link, it may cause it to monopod high, which will be a b|tch during stand to. You may have to get one of the smaller versions to prevent this.

http://www.m203grip.com/M203grip-Handout.htm

[DaReFaItH]

yeah thats pretty much exactly what i was thinking...
it would make the weapon easier to point for rapid stuff and general urban, but would make fire and movement and any field work difficult (firing lying unsupported etc)

[goose36]

there is one model which i quite short, i'm after one aswell but the price is putting me off too. i looked on ebay and found one but it went too quick. i dont think it would get in the way too much when ****e, it might get caught when fire and moving, but i was only going to use it in urban.

[Masai]

is it only a clamp on grip ? surely it must have some form of bolt...

[playtym]

The M203grip instantly makes you
- more lethal
- more mobile
- saferLooks like it does just about everything, except give you longer lasting erections. p-)

[Masai]

Looks like it does just about everything, except give you longer lasting erections. p-)

for that you need hummingbird eyeash mixed with rhino horn....

[Sloppy Joe2]

didnt have one myself, but used them here there. it depends on what you are actually getting it for.
long dismounted ops can be a pain, but overall not sure if it is worth the cost of a little discomfort. my sections grenadier came to the same conclusion.

[James]

Ultimate control over loading your M203. While holding the grip, the barrel release latch is easily accessible. Load a round and eject a cartridge faster.

I think it would actually add movement to the reloading process. Instead of hitting the release with your left thumb (for a right handed shooter) you'd have to remove your hand from the grip, then hit the lever, and then put a new round in.


Increased accuracy of the M203 grenade launcher itself and the rifle to which it is attached.

Mhmmm...

I've never used one, but this seems like yet another "tactical" gadget...

[Calanen]

owing to the expense of this item, i would like any feedback before the credit card comes out.


Just out of interest - how much are they?

[XIE]

That website seems extremely difficult to use.

[Sloppy Joe2]

if i remember right, they are in the hundreds of dollars.

[goose36]

$150-$180 i think

[Lt. James Anderson]

Foregrips are gay.

Most people I know had them to look more high-speed and nothing else ... although some of them claimed that you could shoot better with them (you know, it comes with experience "which I didn't have at the time"), but I could outshoot them any day w/o foregrip :)

[goose36]

Foregrips are gay.

Most people I know had them to look more high-speed and nothing else ... although some of them claimed that you could shoot better with them (you know, it comes with experience "which I didn't have at the time"), but I could outshoot them any day w/o foregrip :)


203 grips or foregrips in general?

[vinny_121_ND]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Special_Forces-Afghanistan/aac.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Special_Forces-Afghanistan/aac

different strokes for different folks.

[Lt. James Anderson]

203 grips or foregrips in general?

Both.
Also I was a grenadier for two years and I don't see any benefit in having a 203 grip as opposed to not having one other than looking more high-speed ...

[DaReFaItH]

Just out of interest - how much are they?

from that M203 grips dudes, id be looking at around $200... US (not including postage)

[BillySing]

from that M203 grips dudes, id be looking at around $200... US (not including postage)

Got any good mates in RAEME? Get 'em to turn one up for ya.... :)

[goose36]

Both.
Also I was a grenadier for two years and I don't see any benefit in having a 203 grip as opposed to not having one other than looking more high-speed ...


well thats where u and i are differnt freind. the good thing about the AUG is that u can flip the forgrip up if you dont like it. me, i leave it down all the time and put it in the web of my palm when shooting long. my AUG with a 203 and all the addons weighs about 7kg so having a grip would take the strain of my wrist and i shoot better close with a grip. i think calling all forgrips gay is a little ignorant considering how much they are used today.

[ShotOver]

Certainly is an interesting concept, for Urban at least. Green role may be a bit different. I know I wouldn't mind a foregrip for the Minimi for urban, para-stock would be nice also, but what can ya do.

You'd just be able to snap this thing off and put it in to your webbing, then take it out when necessary right? No tools or anything.

[velvet-cream]

well thats where u and i are differnt freind. the good thing about the AUG is that u can flip the forgrip up if you dont like it. me, i leave it down all the time and put it in the web of my palm when shooting long. my AUG with a 203 and all the addons weighs about 7kg so having a grip would take the strain of my wrist and i shoot better close with a grip. i think calling all forgrips gay is a little ignorant considering how much they are used today.

It's all personal preference, and also depends how the user feels on the day.
On a normal steyr, I would have the grip up half the time and the grip down the other time. Whilst carrying it on patrol, I like to have the grip down. But I shoot better with the grip up.

[Lt. James Anderson]

i think calling all forgrips gay is a little ignorant considering how much they are used today.

It's just my personal opinion and from my own experience and from what I've seen with others I just don't think foregrips are the the greatest thing since sliced bread. But whatever works for you, right?

As for AUG ... can you take it off or it's permanently attached to the rifle?

[velvet-cream]

It's just my personal opinion and from my own experience and from what I've seen with others I just don't think foregrips are the the greatest thing since sliced bread. But whatever works for you, right?

As for AUG ... can you take it off or it's permanently attached to the rifle?

It folds up (forward) underneath the barrel. If it's in the vertical position, you pull down on the grip and then rotate it forward and up. It doesn't lock in the up position, but instead it is held there by spring pressure. To put it back to the vertical position, you just flip it back down and it automatically locks into place.

Note that there's a little bit of wobble in it and is probably not as stable as the ones you see on m4s.

The foregrip is pretty much a permanent fixture to the barrel. It can be taken off, but normally it's an armourer's job. That's done when you attach the m203PI/GLA.

[DaReFaItH]

i guess what has prompted all this is a brief and rare (for me) 'moment of clarity' during an urban ops package.
i spent the first half of the package with a GLA, the second with an F88CS. what dawned on me was, despite the weight difference, upon entering a room/hallway etc, was the extra speed and control i had when scanning arcs etc with the F88 forgrip down.

this was probably the 1st time i had really used the foregrip aside from bayonet assault courses. my carny hands just dont seem to dominate the 203 barrel, and i think there would be a huge advantage in having a grip to push against for clearing stoppages like failure to extract.

the beauty of this specific foregrip is its quick on/off design which would allow me to leave it behind if its not needed, or during green ops.

it is another gucci piece of fashion, but i think there are times when it would be useful, and times when its only going to get in the way, i guess if i was happy with the way things were, i wouldnt be looking to change things.

nothing ventured nothing gained.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Whatever works for you, man ..

velvet-cream, thanks for the explanation.

[vinny_121_ND]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20080121/capt.sge.ajl76.210108233416.photo00.photo.default-512x356.jpg?x=400&y=278&sig=JP.LzzHDyEDh22wXVijV8A--
US soldiers from 6th Squadron, 8th Cavalry Regiment scan an area for any movement as they take position on the roof of an abandoned house during an operation to search for Al-Qaeda militants in Arab Jabour. US and Iraqi ground forces edged cautiously towards an Al-Qaeda stronghold just south of Baghdad on Monday after the area was heavily bombed overnight, an AFP photographer said

[Sloppy Joe2]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20080121/capt.sge.ajl76.210108233416.photo00.photo.default-512x356.jpg?x=400&y=278&sig=JP.LzzHDyEDh22wXVijV8A--
US soldiers from 6th Squadron, 8th Cavalry Regiment scan an area for any movement as they take position on the roof of an abandoned house during an operation to search for Al-Qaeda militants in Arab Jabour. US and Iraqi ground forces edged cautiously towards an Al-Qaeda stronghold just south of Baghdad on Monday after the area was heavily bombed overnight, an AFP photographer said
Probably bought by his unit or he is just a geardo.