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DeltaWhisky58
01-15-2008, 07:48 AM
Divers discover U-boat wreckage

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The U-boat has been untouched for more than 90 years

A German U-boat sunk off Scotland's coast more than 90 years ago has been discovered by two divers.

Jim MacLeod, of Bo'ness, and Martin Sinclair, from Falkirk, found the wreckage of the U12 about 25 miles from Eyemouth at the weekend.
They had been looking for the 60-metre U-boat for the past five years.
The precise location has now been reported to the German authorities as 19 sailors died in the sinking and relatives will be informed.

The site has been declared an official war grave and it will remain untouched.

Its final resting place was thought to have been found in 1984 by noted international historian Clive Cussler.

However, dives around the area proved fruitless.

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Jim MacLeod

The Scottish divers enlisted the help of a researcher who was able to get log books from destroyers HMS Ariel, Acheron and Attack involved in the sinking of the U12 to help pinpoint the site.

They then used Eyemouth firm Marine Quest Dive Charters to visit the location where they found the boat lying 150ft down on the seabed.
It was the first time the wreck had been visited since it was sunk in 1915.

"It has taken a lot of effort and perseverance but it has finally paid off," said Mr MacLeod.

"It was the first ever submarine to launch a plane at sea.

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Divers discovered the wreck off the Berwickshire coast


"We are delighted with the find."

Shipwreck expert Kevin Heath, from Stromness, Orkney, said it was an important discovery.

"The U12 had been targeting cargo ships off the east coast of Britain and had been as far north as Peterhead," he said.

"It had sunk a boat the previous night but on 10 March, 1915, it was hunted down by the three British destroyers HMS Ariel, Acheron and Attack.

"It attempted to dive under the surface but it was rammed by HMS Ariel."

'Diplomatic incident'

The submarine then surfaced and was shelled by two of the destroyers and sank with the loss of 19 lives although there were 10 survivors.

"They surrendered but it led to a diplomatic incident," added Mr Heath.

"They were treated as pirates by the British for the way they were targeting cargo ships and put into solitary confinement.

"This angered the Germans who did the same with British prisoners of war and the situation had to be dealt with by the Swiss."

BBC News Online Scotland (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/7187862.stm)

Jarhead
01-15-2008, 09:20 AM
Interesting story Delta, thanks for posting.
Is there any chance to see more pictures of the wreckage?

Masai
01-15-2008, 09:36 AM
any chance the ordinance is stil dangerous on there ?

DeltaWhisky58
01-15-2008, 11:19 AM
It's unlikely that the wreck will be dived again, because having been declared a War Grave as stated in the article, it is protected by law and therefore off limits.

Mofreaka
01-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Still, the fact that they found it is pretty cool.

Has anyone read Shadow Divers. It's about the search for one of the last U-boat wrecks in WW2. It was written by John Chatterton, who found the wreck with his team. He's the guy on the history channel show "Deep Sea Detectives".

Kilkenny
01-15-2008, 10:43 PM
The wreck will almost be dived again, I'm sure the Sea Hunters will do a piece on it.

Albatross
01-16-2008, 07:42 PM
It's unlikely that the wreck will be dived again, because having been declared a War Grave as stated in the article, it is protected by law and therefore off limits.

I am no expert nor am I claiming to be, but I was under the impression that anything more than 12 miles off the coast of a sovereign land is international waters. This is 25+ miles off, how could anyone place a law banning the dive?


--400 posts, awwwww yea:)

Violet Fashion by Mindy
01-16-2008, 07:47 PM
You just have to look at the **** storm that hit the Titanic after the wreck was found.

US court system ruled a US company could salvage the wreckage yet it was in international waters.

It's similar to warships. However warships remain the property of the nation in which it served irrespective of where it lies when she foundered. However it all gets murky since nations always salvage enemy ships/subs so you know.

oregongrunt
01-20-2008, 08:25 PM
"They were treated as pirates by the British for the way they were targeting cargo ships and put into solitary confinement.

"This angered the Germans who did the same with British prisoners of war and the situation had to be dealt with by the Swiss."

A very novel approach to pows!

oregongrunt
01-20-2008, 08:25 PM
I am no expert nor am I claiming to be, but I was under the impression that anything more than 12 miles off the coast of a sovereign land is international waters. This is 25+ miles off, how could anyone place a law banning the dive?


--400 posts, awwwww yea:)

I'm sure that it's considered a war grave, even if they were "pirates".

Tam
01-20-2008, 08:52 PM
You just have to look at the **** storm that hit the Titanic after the wreck was found.

US court system ruled a US company could salvage the wreckage yet it was in international waters.

It's similar to warships. However warships remain the property of the nation in which it served irrespective of where it lies when she foundered. However it all gets murky since nations always salvage enemy ships/subs so you know.

Yea, I like the way that played out, they grant a US company the rights to the ship even though its in Int waters, if you ask me they should'nt be salvaging anything from it, but some people have no dignity and only think of the $$$$$$s