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Violet Fashion by Mindy
01-16-2008, 04:52 AM
I present you the Flag of the Australia Territory of Cocos (Keeling) Islands

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Flag_of_the_Cocos_%28Keeling%29_Islands.svg/600px-Flag_of_the_Cocos_%28Keeling%29_Islands.svg.png

And to think they consider Australian's infidels but how can this be? I mean we have the crescent as part of an official flag of a territory of Australia. A territory made up of around 80% Sunni

:cantbeli:

Warlord
01-16-2008, 05:31 AM
Educate me. Is that for real?

Sneeker
01-16-2008, 05:32 AM
Well if it was not befor it is now. I believe it.

Holycrusader
01-16-2008, 06:16 AM
So where is a problem?

tyovan
01-16-2008, 06:31 AM
I didn't know about Australia's overseas territories. Here's info on their other territories if anyone else is interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_Australia#Territories

Calanen
01-16-2008, 12:54 PM
Educate me. Is that for real?

Yes.

Strange place Cocos and Keeling. Middle of the Indian Ocean. Used to be run by one family called Clunies-Ross. They considered themselves the Kings of the Island, and had Malay workers who worked for them. They were paid in a currency made by the Clunies-Ross family, that could only be redeemed at the company store.....

The Australian government eventually told Clunies-Ross that he had to sell the island to the Federal Government or it would be taken from him. He got 4.5 million pounds for it, which he then lost in a failed shipping line. The former 'King' of Cocos and Keeling islands, lives in obscurity in suburban Perth. The Commonwealth also breached a contract it had with him, to leave his home alone, by using their power of compulsory acquisition to take it from him.

Laworkerbee
01-16-2008, 02:37 PM
Allah be praised.

Evolv5
01-17-2008, 06:52 AM
Oh, so that's where .cc comes from.
Learn something new every day!

Thanks for sharing p-)

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
01-17-2008, 07:18 PM
I didn't know about Australia's overseas territories. Here's info on their other territories if anyone else is interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_Australia#Territories

damned aussies, look at that land grab in the antarctic...i sense a future land war...::imagining an army of 100,000 highly motivated penguins::

tyovan
01-17-2008, 09:58 PM
^ Fighting who? Kangaroos or latex-wearing cross-dressers?

One?
01-17-2008, 10:31 PM
Its a democracy.
Population voted.
Majority won.

Whats the big deal? It would be better if there was a cross on the flag?

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
01-18-2008, 01:45 AM
^ Fighting who? Kangaroos or latex-wearing cross-dressers?

dude its PVC...get it right, ty... ::oh ****, i shouldn't know that...running...front door slamming...tires screeching::

Eokboy
01-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Yes.

Strange place Cocos and Keeling. Middle of the Indian Ocean. Used to be run by one family called Clunies-Ross. They considered themselves the Kings of the Island, and had Malay workers who worked for them. They were paid in a currency made by the Clunies-Ross family, that could only be redeemed at the company store.....

The Australian government eventually told Clunies-Ross that he had to sell the island to the Federal Government or it would be taken from him. He got 4.5 million pounds for it, which he then lost in a failed shipping line. The former 'King' of Cocos and Keeling islands, lives in obscurity in suburban Perth. The Commonwealth also breached a contract it had with him, to leave his home alone, by using their power of compulsory acquisition to take it from him.
Was it a fad at one time for lone westerners to sail all over and proclaim themselves as royalty in obscure places? Motivated by delusions of grandeur or inferiority complex... Although I admit who wouldn't? Its just tops :)

Another example is the White Rajahs of Sarawak.

nemowork
01-18-2008, 11:54 AM
Was it a fad at one time for lone westerners to sail all over and proclaim themselves as royalty in obscure places? Motivated by delusions of grandeur or inferiority complex... Um, yes! Look on the bright side, the crazy European guy got a nice house and cash and lots of social respect. In the case of James Brook, all the natives got out of it was the absolute destruction of the mass pirate fleets who'd been kidnapping, raping, enslving and destroying their villages and islands for generations. Got to laugh mind, he did all that and promptly got censured by the British government and Prime Minister Gladstone for using excessive and inhumane methods against the pirates.

Mr X
01-20-2008, 06:59 AM
Was it a fad at one time for lone westerners to sail all over and proclaim themselves as royalty in obscure places? Motivated by delusions of grandeur or inferiority complex... Although I admit who wouldn't? Its just tops :)

Another example is the White Rajahs of Sarawak.

Hutt River Provence comes to mind in Western Australia.

"
It all began in 1970 when the Western Australia Govt introduced the wheat quota. This hard working rural family, located 550 kms north of Perth owned and operated a 27,000 acre wheat station. When the wheat quota was released their allocation was 100 acres. What that meant in real terms was that he could only sell the wheat from 100 acres with the remaining crop being ploughed back into the ground. He wrote to the wheat board in an attempt to get his quota increased but without success. Being the man he is, he wasn't going to back down and was relentless in this requests and his objections to the Govt of the day.
It is then alleged that in an attempt to silence this man that was rapidly becoming a real pain in their butt, the Western Australian Govt tried to rush a new bill through parliament which would give the Govt the power to permanently acquire rural land for any reason. Leonard believes this bill was being passed to remove him permanently from the land and therefore remove any more embarrassment to the Govt. Who knows, perhaps he was right.
He thought there must be a solution so out came the books. He discovered a ruling in International law that said he was 'entitled to secede and form his own self-preservation Govt if under threat of having his economy or land taken away from him'.
So on April 21st 1970 Len sent a letter to the Governor-General stating that he had seceded from Australia and his land was now a republic. That was OK until he then discovered that with the Queen as Australia's Sovereign he had left himself open to be charged with treason. Again out came the books.
This time he found a forgotten 17th century law that stated that a prince that still regarded the Queen as Sovereign couldn't be charged with treason. He then gave himself the title of Prince and turned the Hutt River Province into a Principality.

His country now had defacto recognition but still wanted recognition from a body like the United Nations. So in August of 1977 he sent a letter to the Governor-General declaring war on Australia. I can imagine that he caused quite a laugh in Parliament. Three days later he sent another letter stating the war was over. What the Govt of the day didn't realise was that he had uncovered another International Law that stated that if a national emerged undefeated from war, that Nation was entitled to be shown full respect and recognition as an independent nation. So Prince Leonard had won the battle. He had outwitted the Government at every turn and his property was no longer under threat.
So out of necessity he created his own country. He pays no taxes, pays no GST. He has his own currency and stamps. Letters can be posted using his stamps and have the same reciprocal rights as any other country. He has Government offices, a church and is in the process of building a VIP reception centre. He has 19 Ambassadors throughout the world, 13,000 residents (only 30 of which live on the property), has his own small army, passports and number plates. This truly is a small land locked country within Australia."

from http://www.interworx.com.au/users/parfittbc/May2006.htm

Kletterbuxe
01-20-2008, 11:41 AM
damned aussies, look at that land grab in the antarctic...i sense a future land war...::imagining an army of 100,000 highly motivated penguins::

just a claim like many others. not really based on something.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
01-20-2008, 02:23 PM
just a claim like many others. not really based on something.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg

oh yes, no doubt, i was just amazed by the large landmass "claimed." according to your map it seems the damned french, italians, russians and chinese are invading the aussies space (research facilities i would imagine)...i just have always thought it funny about the human race in general, "claiming" space on the antarctic

Kletterbuxe
01-20-2008, 06:48 PM
yeah, and the brits claim the same area like the argentinians. pretty much all nations arround and the nations with a station in the region are claiming something.

Calanen
01-20-2008, 10:04 PM
just a claim like many others. not really based on something.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg

We grabbed it a long long time ago, and were free to do so at that time. The current Antarctic treaty that the UN has in place does not render void sovereignty claims. This area was claimed by Britian in 1841 and transferred to Australia by Imperial Order in 1933, and then more territory claimed by Britain was transferred to Australia 1947. France, Norway, New Zealand and Britain recognise Australia's sovereignty over the area, so that includes two security council members.

Australia's claim to sovereignty cannot really be disputed on any proper grounds. The land was unoccupied, and uninhabited, and validly claimed by the British Crown in 1841. It was then the UKs to give to Australia.

Australia lets everyone, including the Russians and Americans use its area without complaint. This claim to sovereignty is much better than many on the planet, where often islands and resources are claimed, just because they are nearby. This was claimed fair and square, according to the rules at the time.

Kletterbuxe
01-21-2008, 04:33 AM
The current Antarctic treaty that the UN has in place does not render void sovereignty claims.


Not the claim, but all rights to exercise any sovereignty is prohibited (military use, use of natural ressources, jurisdiction) and the treaty allows all nations to use all of the region for scientific investigation, including the building of stations.

The recognition if some countrys is based on the recognition of their own claims and pretty much meaningless becouese the big majorety refuses to recognise any territorial claims,

BigBaribal
01-21-2008, 05:35 AM
wrong place

Kletterbuxe
01-21-2008, 06:18 AM
jep, sorry

Calanen
01-21-2008, 07:40 AM
just a claim like many others. not really based on something.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg

But you would agree, after my last post that it was based on 'something'.

And Bigbaribal, the topic was about one of Australia's wayward territories, in the context of which another Australian territory was also discussed.

DID
01-21-2008, 07:46 AM
Its a democracy.
Population voted.
Majority won.

Whats the big deal? It would be better if there was a cross on the flag?
yes and its also by this way that democracy will finish. Democracy is great but there is inside the way to destroy it.

Calanen
01-21-2008, 07:47 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/***-toy-torture-for-cuffed-soldier/2008/01/21/1200764156140.html

In an interesting update on what one member of the family Clunies-Ross is allegedly doing today:

*** adventure turned to torture in handcuffs, court told
January 21, 2008 - 4:08PM

A soldier thought he was in for a night of ****** adventure when he let a Perth teenager handcuff him but was instead assaulted by the girl who believed he had wronged her, a court was told.

Nicola Clunies-Ross went on trial in the West Australian District Court today accused of luring her Darwin-based soldier lover to her East Perth home on October 28, 2006, when they were both 19, and tricking him into being restrained.

She has pleaded not guilty to assault occasioning bodily harm, aggravated ****** penetration without consent and deprivation of liberty.
Prosecutor Amanda Burrows told the jury today Clunies-Ross believed her lover had wronged her and was lying about an ex-girlfriend.

So Clunies-Ross lured him to her flat, told him she had "a surprise for him", ordered him to strip and handcuffed him to a wooden chair.

"He consented to being constrained at that point in time. He thought he was in for a night of ****** adventure," Ms Burrows said.

But instead a champagne-sipping Clunies-Ross smiled at the man and told him "I am going to destroy you", Ms Burrows said.

Then her longer-term boyfriend, also a 19-year-old Darwin-based soldier, arrived with a big vibrator which she allegedly used on her victim in a one hour ordeal.

The court was told the long-term boyfriend took photos and short videos of the attack and threatened to publish them on an Army computer hard drive, accessible to all soldiers, if he did not do what he was told.

Ms Burrows said the man fled in a taxi after being released. He reported the assault to police in Darwin after seeking advice from a senior officer.

The trial, set down for four days, continues.

Clunies-Ross' family was granted the Cocos Islands, in the Indian Ocean, about 2,700km northwest of Perth, by Queen Victoria in 1886 after Captain John Clunies-Ross, a Scottish trader, landed on the islands in 1825.

The Australian government bought the islands from the family in 1978.
AAP

Laconian
01-21-2008, 08:16 AM
Well, that's, um, an interesting update...

Kletterbuxe
01-21-2008, 09:48 AM
But you would agree, after my last post that it was based on 'something'.

And Bigbaribal, the topic was about one of Australia's wayward territories, in the context of which another Australian territory was also discussed.

yes I do, but not really much