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Lazy Lob
01-16-2008, 07:48 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7191411.stm



Russia warned over 'intimidation'
David Miliband
Mr Miliband said he was taking the reports very seriously
Foreign Secretary David Miliband has warned Russia that "intimidation" of British Council officials is "completely unacceptable".

The council is "deeply concerned" about its staff's safety after its employees were interviewed by security services and a director was detained by police.

Mr Miliband said the Russian ambassador in London would meet the head of the diplomatic service over the issue.

"Any intimidation or questioning of officials is completely unacceptable."

The British Council says it is "deeply concerned" for the safety of its staff, after it employees in Russia were called in for interviews with the FSB security service - and some were visited by Interior Ministry officials a their homes late last night.

Litvinenko row

Meanwhile St Petersburg office director Stephen Kinnock was followed, stopped and released by authorities on Tuesday.

Mr Kinnock - son of former Labour leader Neil - was held by the side of the road on Tuesday night and accused of going up a one-way street the wrong way and of smelling of alcohol. The British Consul in St Petersburg came to pick him up an hour later.


Our main concern is the safety and security of both our Russian and UK staff
British Council

The St Petersburg British Council office is reported to have been closed on Wednesday because all Russian staff have been summoned by the Russian authorities.

The British Council has been at the centre of a row between Russia and the UK, part of an ongoing dispute over the death of ex-KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko, who was poisoned in London. Russian authorities have ordered offices outside Moscow to shut, Britain has refused.

Mr Miliband said Tuesday had seen "productive" discussions between British diplomats and Russian authorities in Moscow.

But he said: "We've also heard last night and today very serious reports of intimidation and harassment of British Council officials, obviously we take that very seriously indeed."

'Completely legal'

He said he would meet the chief executive of the British Council to discuss the matter later and the Russian ambassador would meet the head of the British diplomatic service.

Mr Miliband argued that cultural exchange between the two countries was a good thing and that the council's work was "completely legal" and Britain would defend its staff's integrity.

British Council in Moscow
The British Council promotes cultural ties

And he said the only losers, should the offices shut, would be the Russian people and the reputation of the Russian government.

The British Council, which aims to promote cultural and educational ties, has been accused of violating Russian tax rules.

The row comes on top of ongoing tensions over the death of former KGB officer Mr Litvinenko in London in November 2006. He had been given a fatal dose of radioactive polonium 210.

Retaliatory measure

The UK wants Russia to hand over businessman Andrei Lugovoi, whom UK investigators suspect of murdering Mr Litvinenko.

When Russia refused to extradite Mr Lugovoi, Britain expelled four Russian diplomats and Moscow followed suit. Russian officials have described the action against the British Council as a retaliatory measure.

On Wednesday, a British Council spokesman said Russian staff in St Petersburg and Yekaterinburg were "summoned for interview by the FSB at their headquarters and subsequently visited in their homes late last night by officials of the Russian Ministry of the Interior".

They have been called to more interviews on Wednesday, he said.

"Our main concern is the safety and security of both our Russian and UK staff and we are deeply concerned by both these incidents," he added.

CMNot
01-16-2008, 08:10 AM
Much ado about nothing.

Billy No Mates
01-16-2008, 08:25 AM
This means war....

Arbody
01-16-2008, 08:32 AM
eh I hope that some day UK learn to respect other country law and constitution

Angrykirill
01-16-2008, 08:37 AM
This means war....

pff, diplomatic bitching between russia and britain and nothing more.

Billy No Mates
01-16-2008, 08:43 AM
pff, diplomatic bitching between russia and britain and nothing more.

Sorry i was being ironic i guess it doesn't always come across that well on the old interweb,i can't imagine many people in the UK giving two sh!ts about this .

theholeinthedonut
01-16-2008, 08:59 AM
eh I hope that some day UK learn to respect other country law and constitution

If I were Poutine, old sport, I would poison all those bloody pommies with polonium, would teach them some manners!

Lazy Lob
01-16-2008, 09:02 AM
If I were Poutine, old sport, I would poison all those bloody pommies with polonium, would teach them some manners!

Deep fried with chips. We don't eat anything without chips.

Arbody
01-16-2008, 09:02 AM
no, no it's to extravagant , cuting throat is cheaper and more caucasin style p-)

theholeinthedonut
01-16-2008, 09:04 AM
Deep fried with chips. We don't eat anything without chips.

I thought that were the belgians?

Thumpsquid
01-16-2008, 09:26 AM
It is, but we use tomato ketchup, they use mayonnaise.

MZKT
01-17-2008, 03:31 PM
Hmm, mayonnaise with polonium makes polonaise rofl. Too good brits use ketchup.

Omen
01-18-2008, 06:54 AM
eh I hope that some day UK learn to respect other country law and constitution

rofl roflit is funny how Arbody lectures UK on disrespect for the rule of law while in Russia some opposition activits were forcibly placed in psichiatric clinics.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,,2242862,00.html

"""The FSB - the successor to the KGB - had made numerous "threats" against the council's Russian staff, officials said. They included inquiring about the health of elderly relatives and warning that family pets might meet with an unfortunate accident. Tax officials had informed several staff they had a problem."""

I imagine on duty FSB officers sitting in ambush and waiting for British Council english language teacher to turn back so they could grab and stifle her cat. :) What's next? Snatching candies from children? Also it is very russian style to intimidate your own citizens while defending best interests of motherland. There is russian saying that fits here perfectly: "beat your own so that others would be scared". I just don't know what those lowlifes from FSB behind deserve more a laugh of or a pity.

theholeinthedonut
01-18-2008, 07:16 AM
It would put a smile on my face......but then I think about the fact that in 1933 people had exactly the same reaction about "Adolfo the mustaccio" so .........

sektor
01-18-2008, 01:46 PM
good job by FSB

Red
01-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Chips and mayo? FFS!

KoTeMoRe
01-18-2008, 04:34 PM
It would put a smile on my face......but then I think about the fact that in 1933 people had exactly the same reaction about "Adolfo the mustaccio" so .........

Oh are you comparing mister Putin with Grofaz tHitD? No because last time I checked there is a slight difference between him and Grofaz.

Obviously that difference means jackshyte to you.

As for 1933, sure at least he did not lie to invade a sovereign country. Wait some one else did...

Yes history is a bitch, now could we keep these great politically motivated rants down before some one trips on the flamethrower?

theholeinthedonut
01-18-2008, 06:50 PM
Oh are you comparing mister Putin with Grofaz tHitD? No because last time I checked there is a slight difference between him and Grofaz.

Obviously that difference means jackshyte to you.

As for 1933, sure at least he did not lie to invade a sovereign country. Wait some one else did...

Yes history is a bitch, now could we keep these great politically motivated rants down before some one trips on the flamethrower?

I'm not comparing anything. Just read what I wrote...word for word. Putin makes me smile...like Chavez does or Berlusconi did...but as I said that was the same reaction everybody had about Gröfaz. I'm not implying that we can take it for granted that Putin will take a similar road....I honestly don't think so.......but just taking it lightly might not be the right way to adress the problems at hand...for the rest you seem to be quite primitive once upset so I will just keep it at that. Once you got your hormones under control and the pimples recede we might try it again.
BTW you are right ....history IS a bitch .....there are quite some similarites when you compare todays mother Russia and Germany in the beginnig of the thirties.

KoTeMoRe
01-19-2008, 04:10 AM
I'm not comparing anything. Just read what I wrote...word for word. Putin makes me smile...like Chavez does or Berlusconi did...but as I said that was the same reaction everybody had about Gröfaz. I'm not implying that we can take it for granted that Putin will take a similar road....I honestly don't think so.......but just taking it lightly might not be the right way to adress the problems at hand...for the rest you seem to be quite primitive once upset so I will just keep it at that. Once you got your hormones under control and the pimples recede we might try it again.
BTW you are right ....history IS a bitch .....there are quite some similarites when you compare todays mother Russia and Germany in the beginnig of the thirties.


1. I'm not upset and calling me primitive, fits perfectly the western mental scheme regarding russians or ex-soviet in general. Be assured I was in full control of both my hormones and my brain.

2. By airing a remote analogy (even miles away) between a german corporal turned savior and a russian spy turned president and their respective backgrounds you sure try it hard.

3. Please enlighten un on the parallelisms between XXIst century Russia and XXth century Germany (don't forget the defeat part on it, I'd love to hear it back).

4. You got a flawless way of insulting, keep it up. And like it or not Putin hasn't lied yet to invade a country.

dimasorokine
01-19-2008, 05:17 AM
I'm not comparing anything. Just read what I wrote...word for word. Putin makes me smile...like Chavez does or Berlusconi did...but as I said that was the same reaction everybody had about Gröfaz. I'm not implying that we can take it for granted that Putin will take a similar road....I honestly don't think so.......but just taking it lightly might not be the right way to adress the problems at hand...for the rest you seem to be quite primitive once upset so I will just keep it at that. Once you got your hormones under control and the pimples recede we might try it again.
BTW you are right ....history IS a bitch .....there are quite some similarites when you compare todays mother Russia and Germany in the beginnig of the thirties.

Alright then, There are quite a few similarities between the US and Nazi Germany - but rightfully so, that comparison is considered pretty far out there by most on the forum...Unfortunately when it comes to Russia, one can make any comparisons they like.

-Dima