New NATO intelligence chief was trained by KGB

[Afro-European]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/03/europe/nato.php

Disband Nato.

[oldsoak]

depends on his loyalties doesnt it ?
If he's loyal to Hungary and supports Hungarian interests, then its not incompatible as Hungary is part of NATO. He will also have a good view on how the "other side" works. Also, depend on it that any head of a security establishment will be known to pro-western agencies.

[Peris]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/03/europe/nato.php

Disband Nato.



never mind, many senior NATO intel chiefs were working for the Soviets during the Cold War.:)

[Afro-European]

You are right but the guy is supposedly a FRIEND of Putin.That's the problem.


depends on his loyalties doesnt it ?
If he's loyal to Hungary and supports Hungarian interests, then its not incompatible as Hungary is part of NATO. He will also have a good view on how the "other side" works. Also, depend on it that any head of a security establishment will be known to pro-western agencies.

[Malleus]

You are right but the guy is supposedly a FRIEND of Putin.That's the problem.

It's not just him, it's the whole governing party - they're a bit too Russia friendly that's sure. Also the way this guy was appointed stinks too, and the reputation of the National Security Office he lead (that they use it to keep an eye on the opposition and such), I'm not surprised many don't trust him. I wouldn't either.

He may end up doing his job fine, but the concerns are very valid, I think.

[Angrykirill]

You are right but the guy is supposedly a FRIEND of Putin.That's the problem.


well regardless what I think of NATO they wouldn't put such a guy into such a powerful position unless they are sure that they can control him like a puppet.. it would be silly to think NATO would make a mistake here IMO.

[perdurabo]

lol, KGB produced some high quality spies so why not to hire one if you can? i'm sure he will be checked and rechecked and rechecked again if he isn't spying for ruskies so no big deal, moust of or older generation generals ended Soviet schools and they are fine specialists.

[Flagg]

You are right but the guy is supposedly a FRIEND of Putin.That's the problem.


Friends are friends

But business is business.

If I was the NATO Grand Poobah, I think I would WANT my G2 guy to be inside the head of a neighbouring nation's political/military/intelligence leadership group which possesses substantial military power and who's future relationship could swing anywhere from friend to enemy.

Look up the word insight in the dictionary.

[StukaJr]

There is a saying, "Once a Checkist, always a Checkist"

ChKa was the forrunner of NKVD / KGB / FSB, started by Dzerzhinsky in 1918... Just saying how the membership is held in regards to...

[LoboCanada]

I love afro-European! [sarc] Supposedly dosen't really convince me. I agree in that it all depends on where your loyalties lie. Plus, in such a high position, it makes sense in that he's gonna be watched pretty closely. NATO isn't stupid, they probably know all of this and have checked him out. Since he still has the job, then im sure he's ok.

[SBL]

Friends are friends

But business is business.

If I was the NATO Grand Poobah, I think I would WANT my G2 guy to be inside the head of a neighbouring nation's political/military/intelligence leadership group which possesses substantial military power and who's future relationship could swing anywhere from friend to enemy.

Look up the word insight in the dictionary.

I was thinking the same thing. Akin to keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. Let him do his job, but keep tabs on him.

[Afro-European]

Hummm.I remember back in 2000 what my dad told me when he came back from Mitrovica: Greece,which is a Nato member was passing intel to Serbia before the bombing began.(Orthodox fraternity).Recently some high ranking members of the Bulgarian army and intelligence were suspected for doing the same.Let's wait and see if it won't be the case with this Putin's "friend" .

depends on his loyalties doesnt it ?



If he's loyal to Hungary and supports Hungarian interests, then its not incompatible as Hungary is part of NATO. He will also have a good view on how the "other side" works. Also, depend on it that any head of a security establishment will be known to pro-western agencies.

[afreu]

Hummm.I remember in 2000 when my dad came back from Mitrovica what he told me: Greece,which is a Nato member was passing intel to Serbia before the bombing began.(Orthodox fraternity).Recently some high ranking members of the Bulgarian army and intelligence were suspected to do the same.Let's wait and see if it won't be the case with this Putin's "friend" .

You mean the next time NATO and Russia clash on the battlefield?

[Afro-European]

No.That would be the Armaggedon.I mean there are some orthodox countries' leaders that are suspected for passing "sensitive intels" to Russia.I read somewhere that US intel officers based in Europe are reluctant to share intel with Greece,Macedonia,Bulgaria coz of their strong ties with Russia.




You mean the next time NATO and Russia clash on the battlefield?

[daily666]

It's good! It's always better to know more (from your former enemy).

And as Switek said, KGB was outstanding in creating intelligence operations and spies so that does count too. Stop whining.

[Afro-European]

Ni i'm not whining.In fact i for disbanding Nato which is a cold war relic.


It's good! It's always better to know more (from your former enemy).

And as Switek said, KGB was outstanding in creating intelligence operations and spies so that does count too. Stop whining.

[danielc]

Such paranoia! The cold war is over, the Soviet Union no longer exist, and Russia is not an enemy of the west.

Also, Hungary is part of the E.U., and a member of NATO, so what difference does it make that that guy was trained by the KGB. He's probably very competent, and that's why he was chosen

[Afro-European]

I completely disagree with you.US still sees Russia as a threat(eventhough they don't admit it) otherwise why would it:
-Keep on expanding Nato eastwards?
-Keep 480 gravity bombs in 7 European countries?
-Be reluctant to share intel with countries that have strong ties with Russia?
-Keep on opening military bases near Russia borders?
-Put a radar and a missile shield near Russia borders?
-Delay the withdraw of half of its troops from Europe?




Such paranoia! The cold war is over, the Soviet Union no longer exist, and Russia is not an enemy of the west.

Also, Hungary is part of the E.U., and a member of NATO, so what difference does it make that that guy was trained by the KGB. He's probably very competent, and that's why he was chosen

[-Julik- 4.GdKp]

It's not just him, it's the whole governing party - they're a bit too Russia friendly that's sure.

Whats the problem with this?

[Morboute]

We better write NATO and warn them! Im sure they don't know about this!!!1onerofl

[BloodyTalon]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/03/europe/nato.php

Disband Nato.
Sure, we'll get to it as soon as we're finished building the Afghani Navy and Marine Corps. p-)

[asch]

Whats the problem with this?
hey, we the bad guys, remember?
and people need enemies, so here we are (no matter that we don't know about it).
p-)

[asch]

i love reaction here:
ex-KGB officer as president: oh noes, russkies choose bloody killer and overall scoundrel!
ex-KGB officer as intelligence chief: tis good, we love to have high professional here.