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hood
05-23-2004, 09:53 AM
A while back, someone mentioned this video on here and asked what I thought of it after I mentioned that I'd pick it up. After more than 1.5 months of it sitting on my desk, I finally watched it. It contains the footage of 11 men in India company of the Marines as they pushed towards baghdad last year. I ordered it with the hope of seeing footage that was uncensored and clips that we might not have seen on regular TV. This was made by combat films, the same people who did the excellent documentary on the Mazar E Sharif prison uprising in Afghanistan. Unfortunately this DVD doesn't deliver in that way. What it shows, is this group in and out of their amphibious unit most of the time, doing very little. According to this, their group went through various battles, which turned out to be engagements with emtpy buildings. If this was the only footage that you saw of the war, you'd think that no Iraqi ever fired back. and we basically just drove to baghdad, completely unresisted. They have various clips of the Marines talking, mentioning how they didn't mind that there was no resistence, that they didn't miss the opportunity of getting shot at.

The dvd presents the video as is, with no narration, no opinions, and no context of what else was going on during the war at the time. They have titles on the screen showing the dates at times. What's annoying though is that one title shows March 24th, near the opening of the war, and the next title/scene is April 4th near the end of the war. Was there no footage of value in 10 days, the actual meat of the war? The only combat footage where there's real targets being shot at, is when a bus runs a checkpoint and they destroy it with what seems to be .50 cal machine guns. When an unarmed man manages to crawl out of the bus and tries to run towards a nearby shack to escape the bullets, they hit him with the machine gun fire which splatters him all over the inside of the shack. (They go to investigate the shack to make sure he's not just injured, when they arrive, the entire inside of the shack is painted with his blood from the high caliber shots. )

All in all, the video isn't worth the price of admission if you've seen the other footage out there. It's nice to see what life was like during the war from a less glamorous viewpoint, but it doesn't make for interesting video after 5 minutes of it.

Roger Rabbit
05-23-2004, 06:26 PM
Thanks for the info, i was considering buying this but i'll avoid now. So was the Mazar-E-Shaif DVD good then?

hood
05-23-2004, 10:30 PM
I think CNN has that one and it's rather good. Lots of commentary, narration, and interviews which really fill in the whole event nicely. I'm not against it being just raw footage like in Virgin Soldiers, I just wish they had more interesting video. There was some, but not much. I'm sure a lot had to do with which company they were embedded with. It seems like the bigger media companies got embedded with troops that they knew ahead of time would see more action.

talib_killa34
05-24-2004, 01:06 AM
Thanks then, I was about to buy this! :)

Save yer $50-60 bucks for The History Channel's "The Iraq War: One Year Later" available on their site. Three discs with lots of details and footage, great interviews, although a little off when they highlight certain weapons systems. The M1-A1 MBT is referred to as an "armored troop transport" (!!!) :(

*wince*

Still great throughout, though they also "loop" some combat footage a couple of times.

Best one out there I seen was the "Fight for Baghdad" from Discovery Channel. ($21 on their site.) ;)

scrybe
05-24-2004, 03:33 AM
I think CNN has that one and it's rather good. Lots of commentary, narration, and interviews which really fill in the whole event nicely. I'm not against it being just raw footage like in Virgin Soldiers, I just wish they had more interesting video. There was some, but not much. I'm sure a lot had to do with which company they were embedded with. It seems like the bigger media companies got embedded with troops that they knew ahead of time would see more action.

Yea that's a pretty good documentary. Very graphic for American TV. The footage was clear and the reporting was well done. It is odd seeing that docuementary, then watching the Special Forces video that was posted here, and seeing it from some different angles.

Dealine Iraq is still the best documentary with the best footage I have seen so far though.