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Midav
02-04-2008, 04:11 PM
Contributed by Civic Centre, Bedford
People in story: Franz Steigler (Luftwaffe), Charlie Brown (USAAF)
Location of story: Somewhere over Europe
Background to story: Royal Air Force
Article ID: A2674235
Contributed on: 28 May 2004
This story was submitted to the site by Chris Chandler of the 8th Air Force Historical SocietyAbout links. He has a video and pictures of the event, and can be contacted on 01234 211026 or at usaaf379bg@aol.com.

Charlie Brown's story

Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group at Kimbolton, England. His B-17 was called 'Ye Old Pub' and was in a terrible state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to Kimbolton.

After flying over an enemy airfield, a pilot called Franz Steigler was ordered to take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not believe his eyes. In his words, he 'had never seen a plane in such a bad state'. The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there were holes everywhere.

Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at Charlie Brown, the pilot. Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged and blood-stained plane.

Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to and slightly over the North Sea towards England. He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned away, back to Europe.

When Franz landed he told the c/o that the plane had been shot down over the sea, and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.

More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who saved the crew. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.

They met in the USA at a 379th Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who are alive now - all because Franz never fired his guns.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/35/a2674235.shtml

An amazing story!!

Midav
02-04-2008, 04:14 PM
Research shows that Charlie Brown lived in Seattle
and Franz Steigler had moved to Vancouver,
BC after the war. When they
finally met, they discovered they had lived less than 200 miles apart for the
past 50 years!

http://veteransnetwork.net/newnote.php?id=0147043af2bdd98

Now if that is true, all I can say is wow!

Chulo
02-04-2008, 04:16 PM
lol.. wow.. what a story

Civil Guard
02-04-2008, 05:11 PM
read this story in some book couple of years ago,
i remember that Charlie Brown was thinking that the German was out of ammo
and waited for him to finish him of with his sidearm!!

Tam
02-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Ah, the gentlemanly spirit of bygone year's, I wonder if act's like that would happen in today's age ? I would like to think so, but I would probably be fooling myself...

Minjin
02-04-2008, 06:19 PM
An old chap I used to go for coffee with before he passed away knew these guys, he was the first to tell me the story. Amazing stuff.

Those days, sadly, are long gone... I don't see that kind of thing happening these days.

Annihilator9112
02-04-2008, 11:37 PM
this is amazing. Thanks for sharing.

gaijinsamurai
02-04-2008, 11:53 PM
Excellent. Thanks, Midav.

Hilbert
02-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Wonderful story, I'm glad the two men were able to meet each other somewhere other than on the battlefield. I wish acts of Honor such as this still existed.

PrinzEugen
02-05-2008, 07:18 AM
Great story. It's been posted before though.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105373&highlight=Franz+Steigler

Hypno85
02-05-2008, 07:56 AM
Amazing thanks.

Johnny_H02
02-05-2008, 06:41 PM
wow what a fantastic story, even crazier that they lived so close to one another this whole time.
It has been said that war brings out the best and the worst of people, this is clearly a instance where the best has prevailed.

LaoSexMachine
02-05-2008, 09:09 PM
great read. thanks

ozumn
02-06-2008, 07:16 AM
Good story, but wtf it's war.

CreepingDeath
02-06-2008, 01:11 PM
great story! thanks for posting.

Xaito
02-08-2008, 10:01 AM
I don't see that kind of thing happening these days.
nowadays thanks to radar everybody would see that the enemy wasn't shot down and the pilot would be hanged for treason or something ;)

Midav
02-08-2008, 06:44 PM
Very welcome, all :)

Also didn't know it was a repost... my bad ><

jklv
02-08-2008, 06:52 PM
Awesome story d=

wiking
02-10-2008, 08:51 PM
remember seeing the story in a documentary some years ago.

fascinating and very human story (and probably why the USAAF hushed it up at the time, didn't want to bring it home to the chaps that the enemy actually was human).

Fliptape
02-13-2008, 12:56 PM
I dont get it, nice of him to save them(now in the aftermath) but what about when they returned to bomb the airbase he was living on or the city where his wife and kids lived in ?

IronFinn
02-14-2008, 01:08 AM
I dont get it, nice of him to save them(now in the aftermath) but what about when they returned to bomb the airbase he was living on or the city where his wife and kids lived in ?

I was thinking the same thing. Did they refrain from doing any bombing sorties after that? If not it is most likely that the pilots actions caused more german lives lost. Based on that I would have shot them down.

eskachig
02-14-2008, 03:33 AM
I was thinking the same thing. Did they refrain from doing any bombing sorties after that? If not it is most likely that the pilots actions caused more german lives lost. Based on that I would have shot them down.Yeah, there is nothing gentlemanly about strategic bombing. But it's still touching. Like the story of a German Lieutenant on the western front in WW2 who went across a minefield to help a wounded American.

Strange how nothing like this really happened on the Eastern front.