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M1A2U2
05-23-2004, 06:51 PM
This is for everyone who says there is no link between Iraq and 9/11.



Lawsuit ruling finds Iraq partly responsible for 9/11
By Richard Willing, USA TODAY
NEW YORK — A federal judge in New York City on Wednesday found Iraq among those liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and awarded nearly $104 million to the families of two men who died in the World Trade Center.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Harold Baer marked the first time that a court had pinned some blame for the attacks on Iraq.

"That in itself is significant," said James Beasley, an attorney who represented the families.

"There's a bunch of (other) cases in process just waiting to see if we could convince a court (of Iraq's complicity). So now the principle is established, and we can get the families the money that they need badly."

Collecting may prove difficult. On March 20, about $1.7 billion in Iraqi assets frozen since 1990 were transferred by President Bush to the U.S. Treasury to be used as a down payment on re-building postwar Iraq. Unless Bush relents, that money appears to be beyond the reach of the plaintiffs: the estates of business analyst George Smith and securities executive Timothy Soulas

It is not known whether the government that assumes power in Iraq will be willing or able to pay the claim.

Baer relied on testimony from former CIA director James Woolsey and from author Laurie Mylroie in determining that Iraq "provided material support" to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. He also cited Colin Powell's speech to the United Nations on Feb. 5 in which the secretary of State linked Iraq to Islamist terrorism.

The testimony, Baer wrote, "barely" established a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq but offered enough proof to persuade a "reasonable jury."

Beside Iraq, defendants included al-Qaeda, bin Laden, the Taliban and the former government of Afghanistan. None of the defendants responded to the lawsuit, but lawyers for the plaintiffs still had to prove Iraq was liable for damages.

The ruling provides ammunition for other plaintiffs pressing claims against Iraq.

In Washington, D.C., six widows and the mother of one victim of the Sept. 11 attacks are seeking class-action status in their lawsuit against Iraq.

In another Washington case, 17 Americans taken prisoner during the 1991 Persian Gulf War and 37 of their family members are seeking $910 million for mistreatment.

Separately, the federal government has set up a victims compensation fund to pay the families of victims of the terrorist attacks, provided they waive their right to sue American companies and government bodies. Recipients are permitted to file lawsuits against al-Qaeda and Iraq.

The fund is expected to disburse $4 billion. Initial awards have averaged about $1.75 million for each victim's family

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05-23-2004, 07:36 PM
Baer relied on testimony from former CIA director James Woolsey and from author Laurie Mylroie in determining that Iraq "provided material support" to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. He also cited Colin Powell's speech to the United Nations on Feb. 5 in which the secretary of State linked Iraq to Islamist terrorism.



Anyone know were i can find some of the info on the "material support"?

Secret Squirrel
05-23-2004, 07:50 PM
This is for everyone who says there is no link between Iraq and 9/11.



The testimony, Baer wrote, "barely" established a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq but offered enough proof to persuade a "reasonable jury."



what a ****ing joke rofl A reasonable jury? LOL this would be like the KKK trying an Africian American and saying "well they barely made the link and it was a reasonable jury". Guess the U.S government should also be held accountable, especially considering they put Saddam in power.

scm77
05-23-2004, 08:01 PM
[NEW YORK — A federal judge in New York City on Wednesday found Iraq among those liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and awarded nearly $104 million to the families of two men who died in the World Trade Center.


That makes me sick. $104 million because one of their relatives died on 9/11. **** them.

Obergefreiter
05-23-2004, 08:01 PM
So if the U.S. government has the Iraqi assets, and the U.S. government is in control of Iraq, will Iraq, i.e., the U.S. government, have to pay the money?

Secret Squirrel
05-23-2004, 08:02 PM
this is just another pathetic attempt at trying to justify the war.

Pooga
05-23-2004, 08:18 PM
Guess the U.S government should also be held accountable, especially considering they put Saddam in power.
That was a pathetic attempt at telling the truth. p-)

SeanAshi
05-23-2004, 08:23 PM
Guess the U.S government should also be held accountable, especially considering they put Saddam in power.The United States did not put Saddam Hussien in power.

American Patriot
05-23-2004, 08:51 PM
Go read a Michael Moore book.

Secret Squirrel
05-23-2004, 09:06 PM
Guess the U.S government should also be held accountable, especially considering they put Saddam in power.The United States did not put Saddam Hussien in power.

so you're saying the CIA never carried out any assassinations or gave any intel to Saddam? They made possible for Saddam to become the ruler of Iraq. Fact is, at the time he was the lesser or two evils...or so they thought. Qasim, who came to power in a coup in 1958, wasnt exactly liked by the U.S. He carried out such anti-American and anti-corporatist policies as starting the process of nationalizing foreign oil companies in Iraq, withdrawing Iraq from the US-initiated right-wing Baghdad Pact (which included another military-run, US-puppet state, i.e., Pakistan) and decriminalizing the Iraqi Communist Party. In 1963, a CIA-organized coup did successfully assassinate Qasim and Saddam's Ba'ath Party came to power for the first time. Saddam returned from exile in Egypt and took up the key post as head of Iraq's secret service. The CIA then provided the new pliant, Iraqi regime with the names of thousands of communists, and other leftist activists and organizers. Thousands of these supporters of Qasim and his policies were soon dead in a rampage of mass murder carried out by the CIA's close friends in Iraq.

Pooga
05-23-2004, 09:23 PM
Yes, and CocoPuffs™ contain microscopic tracking devices that tell all the black helicopters flying around your zip code where you are at all times. Look out your window. You see that old guy outside with the cane and the light grey jacket? Yeah, that's Frank. But he's not just Frank…

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Beowulf
05-23-2004, 09:44 PM
But he's not just Frank...

That's awesome

M1A2U2
05-23-2004, 11:59 PM
The judge has now ruled that they cant get the money from the gov in iraq because they have frozen the funds for the rebuilding of iraq

Secret Squirrel
05-24-2004, 04:31 AM
The judge has now ruled that they cant get the money from the gov in iraq because they have frozen the funds for the rebuilding of iraq

thats not surprising, the American P.O.W.s have yet to be paid.

cut
05-24-2004, 04:35 AM
By that logic, the US has stronger ties to al-qaeda and Bin Laden from back in the eighties. Bravo!