RIOTS IN DENMARK:Muslim Youths Go On Torching Rampage

[Afro-European]

Six immigrant youths were arrested after the continued rioting in Copenhagen tonight.
AFP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080215/wl_afp/denmarkriotsarrest_080215020605) reported:
Six youths were arrested in Copenhagen for setting cars and dumpsters ablaze and throwing stones at police in a fifth night of riots in a predominantly immigrant area of the Danish capital, police said Friday.

"We've had six arrests so far. They've been charged with throwing stones at police and setting fires to cars and waste containers," Chief Inspector Henrik Olesen of the Copenhagen police told AFP.

At least 11 cars were torched in various neighbourhoods of Copenhagen, and 10 others in the nearby town of Kokkedal.

On Thursday, 17 youths were arrested for rioting the previous night.

"We don't know why they're rioting. I think it's because they're bored. Some people say it's because of the cartoons but that's not my opinion," Olesen said.

He was referring to the reprinting of a controversial cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed in 17 Danish newspapers on Wednesday.

Protests have flared up again in several Muslim countries including Kuwait and Pakistan following the reprinting. The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas also condemned the publication...

Three people were arrested for planning the murder, including two Tunisians who have lived in Denmark for more than seven years and whom Denmark has decided to expel without a trial.

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Here is the link is Danish: http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/article974930.ece

[9mmRifle]

I suppose we can expect another boycott of Danish ham



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[Afro-European]

Sure. The Arabic nations haven't yet reacted.This gonna get ugly.


I suppose we can expect another boycott of Danish ham



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[little icebear]

Sack ´em all, reintroduce hard labor as punishment. I want to see those kids working on the chain for a while.

[tengiz]

I have no idea about boredness of rioters yet but it is very clear danish cartoonists are terribly bored on their isolated lands and they are doing their best additions(!?!) to world's different poles' conflicts.

[Jaeger07]

I have no idea about boredness of rioters yet but it is very clear danish cartoonists are terribly bored on their isolated lands and they are doing their best additions(!?!) to world's different poles' conflicts.

Yes its terrible. Lets kill them for their cartoons. Lets burn down emabssies for their cartoons. Riot!!!

(^^sarcasm alert)


Its fvucking CARTOONS! Harden the fvck up.


EDIT: And by the way: why is Denmark isolated? It's in continental Europe, how is that isolated?

[Basillicus]

Round them up and expel them. They would have already adapted to the society if it would ever happen, and there's no reason to keep some rioting a$$hats on welfare. :|

[MichaelF]

Send in Techno-Viking!

[Jaeger07]

Round them up and expel them. They would have already adapted to the society if it would ever happen, and there's no reason to keep some rioting a$$hats on welfare. :|

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[junglejim]

Send in Techno-Viking!


It not that bad yet, is it? Think of the children!

[kalamazan]

When I was in country in Lebanon, there was two guys that took care of the troublemakers. One of them was small and the other one was very big dude. The small one would ask the question and the answer was always the same: I didn't do it! The small guy would walk away and say:"Now I want you to think about that answer you gave me. I'll be back soon". The big guy would come in and smack the living hell out of the dude and so on. After few times, he would tell the colors of his mothers undies to stay away from the big guy. Moral of the story: Don't be too nice to little pricks that will never recognize the freedom and democracy that they live under. Send them back to Camel's Lost Hole paradise and let"s see if they will revolt against anything ever again. :fork:

[VPR]

i dont understand why successful countries like Norway take immigrants, often immigrants are nothing but trouble, especially when religion is different, deport them and their families, let them riot in their **** holes

[Pars]

I have no idea about boredness of rioters yet but it is very clear danish cartoonists are terribly bored on their isolated lands and they are doing their best additions(!?!) to world's different poles' conflicts.

I'm with Jaeger07, harden the fvck up.

[Little J]

Round them up and expel them. They would have already adapted to the society if it would ever happen, and there's no reason to keep some rioting a$$hats on welfare. :|

Don't expel them ffs, they'll just come to the UK and we've already got enough scum (domestic and imported).

[9mmRifle]

Yeah I feel sorry for the suffering any of those Muslims had to go through in the Iraq vs Iran conflict or when Israel is forced to respond etc
but this type of STONE AGE behavior is doing them no good
I know this might not be a politically correct thing to say but with all those Fatwas etc I think Islam is a religion that attracts the mentally insane

The loons are waking up

Hamas, which controls the coastal Palestinian territory, demanded that the Danish cartoonist be brought to trial and that an official apology be made to Muslims.
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http://www.*******.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL1592885

"We are all a sacrifice to the Prophet Mohammad, our blood, our property and our families are all a sacrifice to him," a Hamas activist shouted through a loudspeaker after Friday prayers in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip.


Somebody should donate a few Danish flags, I'm getting tired of seeing them spit roast the Stars n Stripes

[Jaeger07]

i dont understand why successful countries like Norway take immigrants, often immigrants are nothing but trouble, especially when religion is different, deport them and their families, let them riot in their **** holes

Yeah, unfortunately we need labor up here. So we do infact need immigration. But IMO we should be ALOT more selective when it comes to immigration.

I mean: We throw out a Russian scientist who wants to work here, but keep lord knows how many welfare-sucking others.

[Basillicus]

i dont understand why successful countries like Norway take immigrants, often immigrants are nothing but trouble, especially when religion is different, deport them and their families, let them riot in their **** holes

Well, the idea is that if you are doing good then why shouldn't you help those who are in need. The idea is good, but the bad thing is that there are always rotten apples among immigrants too (just like with any given group of people) who don't appreciate the chance of the life time they get. IMO there shouldn't be any obligation for the host country to accept just about any kind of people, and in addition they just give a bad name for rest of the immigrants and make their life harder. If they misbehave like this they should be sent back home.

[Euroamerican]

Yeah, unfortunately we need labor up here. So we do infact need immigration. But IMO we should be ALOT more selective when it comes to immigration.

I mean: We throw out a Russian scientist who wants to work here, but keep lord knows how many welfare-sucking others.

Same in the USA. We kick out college-educated, English-speaking, Western Europeans when they overstay their visas, but accept boat-loads of Somalis and other groups who don't speak a lick of English, don't have any marketable skills, and have to be put on the dole to stay alive.

There's an obligation to help the less fortunate out, but the impact on local taxpayers, infrastructure, and culture is significant.

[deagle]

they're all prob @$$hats...what a great example of citizenship. they start rioting and causing civil unrest, and then they cry about being discriminated against and persecuted. what a load a $@$@5t3112

[Euroamerican]

they're all prob @$$hats...what a great example of citizenship. they start rioting and causing civil unrest, and then they cry about being discriminated against and persecuted. what a load a $@$@5t3112

Which brings us to the problem of the costs/damage done to the host society. As soon as the newly placed immigrants realize that it's going to be a lot of work to be in our happy western land, they start screaming that they aren't getting what they deserve, start asking for public assistance, demand the local school district and public services respect their language and culture, etc. Of course, the local leftie social services groups then start thunking whitey over the head, saying that he is a racist if the local school doesn't provide text books and teachers in Arabic or whatever.

It starts to make ya think that the powers-that-be actually want to damage or alter the host society.

[Lazy Lob]

"Muslim Youths Go On Torching Rampage"

Didn't the Danes do the same in Great Britain in 793?

What's that got to do with the price of chickens?


I have no idea about boredness of rioters yet but it is very clear danish cartoonists are terribly bored on their isolated lands and they are doing their best additions(!?!) to world's different poles' conflicts.

How very cryptic. I mean it, ............ but I just don't understand it.

[Rudolph]

The wonders of multi-culturalism...

It's quite simple:

One goes from one country to another because one believes things will be better. But why, you ask? Because they do things differently than you do in your country, thus, the only logical thing to do is to fully adopt your new country's major religion, culture and language as a natural habit. But immigrants seem to think that they can act exactly the way they did back home and expect different results.

[Messiah UKF]

makes for funsies when walking home from work at night - riot vans have been sitting in side streets waiting for the **** to hit the fan every night this week.

but lets be fair, its hardly a riot. A few youths running riot perhaps, but nothing compared to March last year. No need to panic.

no big deal, let them have their little riot. The 12 year old emo pratt's did worse damage last year when they threw their toys out of the pram. Unfortunately its coming up to its one year's aniversary, which is something I will be a little more worried about.

[Kilgor]

Not all multiculturalism has gone bad, but "certain" examples do stick out. Generalization does not help.

There are certain groups who it seems are resistant to embracing the culture of their new host country and should consider why they even moved in the first place.

[signatory]

Generally speaking asian muslims resident in the nordic countries don't go on rampages.

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[LoveMeister]

I agree with Messiah UKF: It's no big deal. He's spot on when he say someone is running riot rather than this being a fullblown riot. I'm acutally more worried about the journalist scum of the earth than a few maladjusted 'Muslims' (I'm putting Muslims in quotations because the guys working the streets yesterday and today hardly have anything to do with Muslims).

I live in Center Copenhagen and have walked the streets of N0rrebro with my 5 year old daughter today and yesterday. We didn't even smell the smoke. Clearly some armchair journalist is blowing this way out of proportion.

Remember now days a journalists no. 1 priority is to sell newspapers or buff viewer numbers. They are the burly men who gang rape your virgin minds - unless you resist. Don't ever believe what they say on TV, burn your newspaper and if possible beat some sense into the nearest journalist near you. Be critical, be smart, screw the established news 'corporations' and live a free and enlightened life.

Cheers

- The LoveMeister

[WKD]

I have no idea about boredness of rioters yet but it is very clear danish cartoonists are terribly bored on their isolated lands and they are doing their best additions(!?!) to world's different poles' conflicts.

I didn't understand a word you just said.

[deli_dumrul]

Yeah, unfortunately we need labor up here. So we do infact need immigration. But IMO we should be ALOT more selective when it comes to immigration.

I mean: We throw out a Russian scientist who wants to work here, but keep lord knows how many welfare-sucking others.

I read this in a Turkish newspaper yesterday. Norway, apparently, has requested 100,000 skilled workers (only specialists that have college education or at least 3 years of job related education) during a minister's ( Bjarne Hakon Hanssen ) visit to Turkey. It is expected that Norwegian government will relax immigration laws a bit. It is also reported Turkey will provide the workforce within 6 months. You guys seem to be selective.

[Kaapeli]

Round them up and expel them. They would have already adapted to the society if it would ever happen, and there's no reason to keep some rioting a$$hats on welfare. :|

2nd generation immigrants, like these young hooligans, are citizens of their respective nations. You cannot deport citizens from their own country. And even if you could, where would you sent them? Their nation of origin won't take them because they weren't even born there.

[Afro-European]

I 100% agree with you.I couldn't have said it better.Those mofos give all immigrants a bad name.


The wonders of multi-culturalism...

It's quite simple:

One goes from one country to another because one believes things will be better. But why, you ask? Because they do things differently than you do in your country, thus, the only logical thing to do is to fully adopt your new country's major religion, culture and language as a natural habit. But immigrants seem to think that they can act exactly the way they did back home and expect different results.

[Messiah UKF]

I agree with Messiah UKF: It's no big deal. He's spot on when he say someone is running riot rather than this being a fullblown riot. I'm acutally more worried about the journalist scum of the earth than a few maladjusted 'Muslims' (I'm putting Muslims in quotations because the guys working the streets yesterday and today hardly have anything to do with Muslims).

I live in Center Copenhagen and have walked the streets of N0rrebro with my 5 year old daughter today and yesterday. We didn't even smell the smoke. Clearly some armchair journalist is blowing this way out of proportion.

Remember now days a journalists no. 1 priority is to sell newspapers or buff viewer numbers. They are the burly men who gang rape your virgin minds - unless you resist. Don't ever believe what they say on TV, burn your newspaper and if possible beat some sense into the nearest journalist near you. Be critical, be smart, screw the established news 'corporations' and live a free and enlightened life.

Cheers

- The LoveMeister

do you live in Norrebro, or just happened to be walking around there? I live along the lakes near to Rigs Hospitalet.

Given my location I get to listen to the various emergency vehicles heading that way, and it really is blown out of proportion. I look at TV2 and see a civil war, I look out my window and I see people jogging around the lakes at 11pm without a care in the world. The most I've seen are the various ungdomshus protests walking down solvgade, and besides the odd firework, they're rather tame.

News in DK is pretty slow at best... I mean, not much actually happens to fill the front page. They have to give the things away on street corners to cyclists (Lovemeister will deffinately know what I mean about that)

[Jaeger07]

I read this in a Turkish newspaper yesterday. Norway, apparently, has requested 100,000 skilled workers (only specialists that have college education or at least 3 years of job related education) during a minister's ( Bjarne Hakon Hanssen ) visit to Turkey. It is expected that Norwegian government will relax immigration laws a bit. It is also reported Turkey will provide the workforce within 6 months. You guys seem to be selective.

Thats news to me, but good news indeed. Educated turks are more than welcome here :)

A trillion times better than lazy somalians or crazy pakistanis...

[deli_dumrul]

Have a question. Why not Eastern Europeans? Or are they experiencing the same issue?

[Dercius]

I will say, put them on chains and send them back to WhateverSTAN with a one way ticket. This bunch of stupid kids will learn about human rights and so on.

I think that some european countries should be more selective with the kind of inmigrants they are accepting. If they need workers they should better look for some portuguese, greeks, croats, spanish, italians, argentines, brazilians, poles, russians and so on. This dudes may have different cultures, but at least they are not waiting to blow themselves up in the bus or train, and dont spend the whole day thinking about religion, slitting throats and Mohammed cartoons.

[Ulytau]

Really it been surprise ?

Sometimes i hate beein right also tried to write to them about this too cause a lil ''SORRY'' was gonna solve all of problems..

Today read on news,Catholic people showed reaction aganist a parfume package cause there was a Jesus pic..People have sensitiviness about their believes..Its not about beein SOOOOOOO RELIGIOUS or something.Also sometimes reading and seeing about Christians sensitiviness etc too or Jews.

And said before some people can use it for provoke and its looking like they doing it..

Good luck to Danish Police and other security forces i hope they can solve problem without beeing so serious..

PS: About Norway issue also their retired people etc. coming to Turkiye for living too i seen one of a little site when i visited Kemer :D

[drake247]

i dont understand why successful countries like Norway take immigrants, often immigrants are nothing but trouble, especially when religion is different, deport them and their families, let them riot in their **** holes

shut the hell up u ignorant prick... if u think all immigrants r nothing but trouble u must be on some kind of drugs. i know many immigrants who make an honest living here in canada and arnt violent. u cant go stereotyping races and religions like that. thats like saying since some of the soldiers in iraq and a-stan have killed innocent civilians means all the soldiers are bad and wrong doers. grow the hell up....

[VPR]

shut the hell up u ignorant prick... if u think all immigrants r nothing but trouble u must be on some kind of drugs. i know many immigrants who make an honest living here in canada and arnt violent. u cant go stereotyping races and religions like that. thats like saying since some of the soldiers in iraq and a-stan have killed innocent civilians means all the soldiers are bad and wrong doers. grow the hell up....


Canada and Scandinavia is completely different, Canada is based on immigrants, "canadian" doesnt mean anything, you get the papers you are canadian

In good countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway, where people belong to one ethnicity, for example "Swidish", if a guy is swidish he cant have a last name al-hattab, these countries dont need to mix their people with dark skin, and islam, they are fine as is, and workers can be brought from other places, which will not give rise to tensions based on a cartoon publishing

[MkH]

Life in a Scandinavian welfare state is so hard :-( Poor muslims. Their life was all fine and dandy back in Somalia/Iraq/othersh*tholeofacountry and then those racist danes forced them to move to the dark and cold north, making their life miserable by offering them money, food and shelter. I think their little riot is completely justified. For Allah's sake, this is cartoons we're talking about!

[Dominique]

Canada and Scandinavia is completely different, Canada is based on immigrants, "canadian" doesnt mean anything, you get the papers you are canadian

“VPR - Resident Dumbarse and all-round asshole”
Your title fits you well, as you don't have a clus as to what you’re talking about.


In good countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway, where people belong to one ethnicity, for example "Swidish", if a guy is swidish he cant have a last name al-hattab, these countries dont need to mix their people with dark skin, and islam, they are fine as is, and workers can be brought from other places, which will not give rise to tensions based on a cartoon publishing

Yes because we all “know” that you have to keep the lower races, you know the dark skinned ones, from infecting the “good” racially pure people of Europe. I say round them all up and take them straight to the “showers”. (Sarcasm off) Your racially charged comments are nothing more than flame bait designed to incite anger, and show your ignorance.

[IraGlacialis]

Well, to be fair, many of these douchebags aren't even immigrants. They are the kids of immigrants, who seem to tend to be hardworking individuals.
So the little monsters haven't known what it is like to live in the Near-east or North Africa. They look around see instances of compensation to minorities, then everybody wants a piece of the welfare-without-consequence pie.

BTW, is this the cartoon that everybody is getting all huffy about? It's a bit outdated.
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Whene you think about it, it doesn't show Muhammed in a negative light at all. You could say that the comic is showing that Islam itself doesn't condone tyrants and extremists, hence the "reward".

[LaoSexMachine]

Really it been surprise ?

Sometimes i hate beein right also tried to write to them about this too cause a lil ''SORRY'' was gonna solve all of problems..

Today read on news,Catholic people showed reaction aganist a parfume package cause there was a Jesus pic..People have sensitiviness about their believes..Its not about beein SOOOOOOO RELIGIOUS or something.Also sometimes reading and seeing about Christians sensitiviness etc too or Jews.

And said before some people can use it for provoke and its looking like they doing it..

Good luck to Danish Police and other security forces i hope they can solve problem without beeing so serious..

PS: About Norway issue also their retired people etc. coming to Turkiye for living too i seen one of a little site when i visited Kemer :D


Well, did the Buddhist riot when the Bamyan Buddhas were destroyed?

[Dasein]

Well, did the Buddhist riot when the Bamiyan Buddhas were destroyed?

Not in that case, but there have been plenty of violent conflicts involving Buddhist monks, mostly in various SE Asian countries.

As for this situation, a bunch of bored kids who happen to be Muslim are engaging in some vandalism. And this is news?

[LaoSexMachine]

Not in that case, but there have been plenty of violent conflicts involving Buddhist monks, mostly in various SE Asian countries.

As for this situation, a bunch of bored kids who happen to be Muslim are engaging in some vandalism. And this is news?

Yes. They give out edicts for the blood of non believers.

Edit. I'm from Laos. Never heard of them going Jihadi on the streets.

[randy10]

Canada and Scandinavia is completely different, Canada is based on immigrants, "canadian" doesnt mean anything, you get the papers you are canadian

In good countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway, where people belong to one ethnicity, for example "Swidish", if a guy is swidish he cant have a last name al-hattab, these countries dont need to mix their people with dark skin, and islam, they are fine as is, and workers can be brought from other places, which will not give rise to tensions based on a cartoon publishing

Everyone has a right to be an idiot, But you are abusing the privilege.
Kudos to the Mods for ur custom title.

[NSX-R]

Canada and Scandinavia is completely different, Canada is based on immigrants, "canadian" doesnt mean anything, you get the papers you are canadian

In good countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway, where people belong to one ethnicity, for example "Swidish", if a guy is swidish he cant have a last name al-hattab, these countries dont need to mix their people with dark skin, and islam, they are fine as is, and workers can be brought from other places, which will not give rise to tensions based on a cartoon publishing

I somewhat agree with this post. Immigration works better in Canada than Europe because Canada is still a relatively young nation in which the culture is free to be molded by its many immigrant inhabitants. Anybody can be Canadian as long as they stay a few years and earn citizenship. I believe one of the reasons Scandinavians work so well together is because everybody belongs to the same ethnicity and culture. Less tensions exist because of the absence ethnic, religious, or cultural differences.

Just my opinion. I am a Filipino immigrant to Canada by the way.

[VPR]

“VPR - Resident Dumbarse and all-round asshole”
Your title fits you well, as you don't have a clus as to what you’re talking about.



Yes because we all “know” that you have to keep the lower races, you know the dark skinned ones, from infecting the “good” racially pure people of Europe. I say round them all up and take them straight to the “showers”. (Sarcasm off) Your racially charged comments are nothing more than flame bait designed to incite anger, and show your ignorance.


exactly my point, :) leave the muslims and africans in their home countries, Denmark needs workers, turn to eastern europe, they are more educated and civilized

and i have a clue what i am talking about, France is an example, they were a great nation some time ago, now look at the riots, started by who? immigrants

[Dominique]

exactly my point, :) leave the muslims and africans in their home countries, Denmark needs workers, turn to eastern europe, they are more educated and civilized

and i have a clue what i am talking about, France is an example, they were a great nation some time ago, now look at the riots, started by who? immigrants

Why, oh why didn't your parents choose to use a condom.

[VPR]

Why, oh why didn't your parents choose to use a condom.

i could say the same about yours

because of mentality like yours they break the laws, the point is, not all of them are bad, but they need stricter laws, so they wouldnt abuse the newly acquired freedom, and if they do, police is there, crack a few skulls, they'll be gone, working, and not demanding something from a country that decided to help them

[Dominique]

i could say the same about yours

because of mentality like yours they break the laws, the point is, not all of them are bad, but they need stricter laws, so they wouldnt abuse the newly acquired freedom, and if they do, police is there, crack a few skulls, they'll be gone, working, and not demanding something from a country that decided to help them

What mentality is that? And by the way I am a law enforcement officer here in the US.

[Hollis]

VPR,

The secret, if you find yourself in a hole, STOP digging.

[Euroamerican]

do you live in Norrebro, or just happened to be walking around there? I live along the lakes near to Rigs Hospitalet.

Given my location I get to listen to the various emergency vehicles heading that way, and it really is blown out of proportion. I look at TV2 and see a civil war, I look out my window and I see people jogging around the lakes at 11pm without a care in the world. The most I've seen are the various ungdomshus protests walking down solvgade, and besides the odd firework, they're rather tame.

News in DK is pretty slow at best... I mean, not much actually happens to fill the front page. They have to give the things away on street corners to cyclists (Lovemeister will deffinately know what I mean about that)

So the media is blowing it out of proportion? Truth is always the best. Now I feel vaguely stupid for getting worried. Honestly though, we all need to hear what is really going on.

[Dominique]

VPR,

The secret, if you find yourself in a hole, STOP digging.

There you go making since again.

[Hollis]

There you go making since again.


Don't know about that, it has kept me from getting to deep. Thought I would share it.

[Dasein]

I wonder how many of these 'immigrants' were actually born in Denmark?

[VPR]

What mentality is that? And by the way I am a law enforcement officer here in the US.

the mentality that thinks: everybody is equal, if i respect the law, they will too

the fact is, Africa for example is centuries behind the civilized world, they can not become civilized over night, in the case of your USA, you have too many of them, its too late to say lets not take them in anymore, so whats the solution- take a look at the new thread about russian police PR, thats what they need

[Miles.]

Beating people civilizes them.


Gold, VPR. Pure ****in gold.

[Dominique]

the mentality that thinks: everybody is equal, if i respect the law, they will too

And you'd be wrong if that's what you believe I think. I treat people on an individual basis and don't lump them all together. And I would either be very naive, or extremely ignorant to believe that because I respect the law, others will.


the fact is, Africa for example is centuries behind the civilized world,

And this has what to do with someone immigrating?


they can not become civilized over night, in the case of your USA, you have too many of them, its too late to say lets not take them in anymore,

By "them", do you mean blacks? I eagerly await your reply.


so whats the solution- take a look at the new thread about russian police PR, thats what they need

Well I'll just trot right over and take a look. I'm sure in will continue to enlighten me as to your view point.

[IraGlacialis]

Why, oh why didn't your parents choose to use a condom.
Looking at VPR's posts, I blame this little chemical compound (you know, that organic molecule (C2H4 to be precise) with a hydroxide ion at the end) for his conception and possible condition.

[E-2]

Well, they didnt torch a church or diss Christianity.

There has to be some respect for another man's religion and it doesnt exactly mean censorship. The Prophet thing was touchy for them and posting more pics would just enrage them more.

Whatever they did was wrong, but you just dont mess with someone's beliefs and whatever he respects.

[seraosha]

Gosh, I was going to guess an extra chromosome or three, but your explanation makes more sense. Wow, you hear about folks like that, but to actually read their posts...huh. Guess it's not made up stories to scare little mudbloods like me.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Riots today, all out wars tomorrow.
VPR is actually right. I don't remember reading about European immigrants trying to start sheet in some other European country like these assholes do ...
I wonder if Europeans moved to some African or Asian countries and pulled this kind of crap ... How many of them would actually be alive and for how long? ;)

[Rudolph]

I always look at it this way: If you took my forefathers from say, 500-years ago, and put a million of them in the modern day... What would they do, how would they act, would they have to be put down? You're either with us, or out the window.... Whenever I hear the word equality I just shake my head. On a personal level I treat all people the same, but in terms of the greater picture, nope, never. I've seen/experienced too much of what can happen when "old" and new cultures clash... it's not pretty!

I know to many this sounds like a terrible thing to say, but I'm not talking about a final solution or anything like that. These days I simply think that cultures who are not predominately compatible will cause more trouble than good. Western Europeans can move around Europe with ease, but it doesn't mean they'll fit in Africa or the Middle-East as a full-fledged citizen. It took you thousands of years to reach your current cultural point, way of thinking, etc.

At the same I put a limit on self-preservation. I do not have the right to take anything from anyone else. Even Zimbabwe has the right to be the way they are, they are choosing to live this horrible life. But I have no right to say they are a waste of air and allow people take all their minerals, no matter how justified it seems. Just live your own life in an area where your culture if predominate, and leave other "lessor" cultures alone, as long as they live in their own countries, just as I wouldn't want the Japanese to come and ransack my home, simply because they run a more effecient, civilized lifestyle.

Hannah Arendt
"Equality is the result of human organization. We are not born equal."

[Miles.]

Riots today, all out wars tomorrow.
VPR is actually right. I don't remember reading about European immigrants trying to start sheet in some other European country like these assholes do ...
I wonder if Europeans moved to some African or Asian countries and pulled this kind of crap ... How many of them would actually be alive and for how long? ;)

Ever heard of colonialism?

[Lt. James Anderson]

Ever heard of colonialism?

Ever heard what happened to the settlers when their side was no longer in charge? :)

Good post, Rudolph.

[kosse]

Yes because we all “know” that you have to keep the lower races, you know the dark skinned ones, from infecting the “good” racially pure people of Europe. I say round them all up and take them straight to the “showers”. (Sarcasm off) Your racially charged comments are nothing more than flame bait designed to incite anger, and show your ignorance.

He's got it right to some extent even though he is an idiot. We need to keep the barbarians out so that they won't ruin our contries. Last year the foreigners committed almost 60% of all rapes in Helsinki..if my memory serves the percentage of the foreigners themselves was 8.3% in the said city. It's pretty much the same with all criminal activities and the 2nd generation "immigrants" are even worse when it comes to crime (no fear of getting kicked out of the country) and they aren't even in those statistics because they have citizenships!

Anyway, I don't believe in racial superiority but I think that some cultures are just incompatible with others. Majority of these criminals come from Middle East and Africa. I don't think it's worth it trying to change their ways while our women and kids suffer in the hands of these brutes. Besides, it takes numerous generations to achieve anything..

So, it would be only logical to block their entry to Europe. They can kill and rape their women and children in their own countries. When they change their culture we can talk again but we can't force it on them..they need to do it themselves.

[Dasein]

He's got it right to some extent even though he is an idiot. We need to keep the barbarians out so that they won't ruin our contries. Last year the foreigners committed almost 60% of all rapes in Helsinki..if my memory serves the percentage of the foreigners themselves was 8.3% in the said city. It's pretty much the same with all criminal activities and the 2nd generation "immigrants" are even worse when it comes to crime (no fear of getting kicked out of the country) and they aren't even in those statistics because they have citizenships!

Anyway, I don't believe in racial superiority but I think that some cultures are just incompatible with others. Majority of these criminals come from Middle East and Africa. I don't think it's worth it trying to change their ways while our women and kids suffer in the hands of these brutes. Besides, it takes numerous generations to achieve anything..

So, it would be only logical to block their entry to Europe. They can kill and rape their women and children in their own countries. When they change their culture we can talk again but we can't force it on them..they need to do it themselves.

How are 2nd generation 'immigrants' treated in Finland? Are they recognized as Fins, or are they still identified as outsiders, and kept in ghettos? What are employment opportunities like for them? Education? Are there any concerted efforts by the Swedish government to incorporate immigrants into Swedish culture?

[Kaplanr]

For the 60% number to have a meaning we need to know the total number of rapes in Helsinki. It would also help to know the number of rapes within the immigrant community.

Here's where cultural differences play an interesting game. Is a ****** attack by one of your "own" (immigrant on immigrant) as heinous a crime (IMHO it's a crime,) as opposed to one committed by an outsider on one of your "own"?

We say rape, they say honor punishment for immodesty. We say murder, they say family honor killing.

[Basillicus]

How are 2nd generation 'immigrants' treated in Finland? Are they recognized as Fins, or are they still identified as outsiders, and kept in ghettos? What are employment opportunities like for them? Education? Are there any concerted efforts by the Swedish government to incorporate immigrants into Swedish culture?

They go the same schools with others and have the same chances, i.e. you can study for free anything you want all the way to doctor's degree if you are up to the task. AFAIK they do tend to pack up in the same areas since they choose to do so, but there are no actual "ghettos". I also think they don't go to schools as much as ethnic Finns, maybe their parents don't appreciate and encourage education or something. And that's probably the biggest problem for their employment since in here you almost need some sort of degree for even cleaners job.

[NavyTimes]

How are 2nd generation 'immigrants' treated in Finland? Are they recognized as Fins, or are they still identified as outsiders, and kept in ghettos? What are employment opportunities like for them? Education? Are there any concerted efforts by the Swedish government to incorporate immigrants into Swedish culture?

That discrimination bull**** doesn't hold up. Here, we see that some immigrant groups cope very well, one example: Second generation tamil youth is way more successfull in education than native norwegians. Their parents worked hard when they came here in the 80's and 90's, and there almost haven't been any cases where they have been known to cause probelms. Some cultures are just more adaptable than others.

[drake247]

exactly my point, :) leave the muslims and africans in their home countries, Denmark needs workers, turn to eastern europe, they are more educated and civilized

and i have a clue what i am talking about, France is an example, they were a great nation some time ago, now look at the riots, started by who? immigrants

correct me if im wrong but didnt France try to colonise the north african states? didnt they go to those countries and tried to take it by force? and sometimes immigrants have a right to be mad. they face cases of extreme racism at times. im moroccan my self and my uncle was a victim of extreme racism in France. so please stop talking because u clearly have no clue what ur talking about.

[KninGrad]

Six immigrant youths were arrested after the continued rioting in Copenhagen tonight.
AFP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080215/wl_afp/denmarkriotsarrest_080215020605) reported:
Six youths were arrested in Copenhagen for setting cars and dumpsters ablaze and throwing stones at police in a fifth night of riots in a predominantly immigrant area of the Danish capital, police said Friday.

"We've had six arrests so far. They've been charged with throwing stones at police and setting fires to cars and waste containers," Chief Inspector Henrik Olesen of the Copenhagen police told AFP.

At least 11 cars were torched in various neighbourhoods of Copenhagen, and 10 others in the nearby town of Kokkedal.

On Thursday, 17 youths were arrested for rioting the previous night.

"We don't know why they're rioting. I think it's because they're bored. Some people say it's because of the cartoons but that's not my opinion," Olesen said.

He was referring to the reprinting of a controversial cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed in 17 Danish newspapers on Wednesday.

Protests have flared up again in several Muslim countries including Kuwait and Pakistan following the reprinting. The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas also condemned the publication...

Three people were arrested for planning the murder, including two Tunisians who have lived in Denmark for more than seven years and whom Denmark has decided to expel without a trial.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080215/ids_photos_wl/r552404675.jpg/


Here is the link is Danish: http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/article974930.ece


Western nations should stop oppressing young Muslims...

[Ulytau]

correct me if im wrong but didnt France try to colonise the north african states? didnt they go to those countries and tried to take it by force? and sometimes immigrants have a right to be mad. they face cases of extreme racism at times. im moroccan my self and my uncle was a victim of extreme racism in France. so please stop talking because u clearly have no clue what ur talking about.

+1 especially most of immigrants are from Ex-Colony countries if i know true..

Still saying cannot support looting,riots or something but for showin reaction especially about this issue you need to be sooooooooooooo religious i said before..

[Kragh]

Western nations should stop oppressing young Muslims...

Young muslims should accept that they now live i another culture than the one their ancestors lived in.
Either that or migrate to a muslim society (and accept the corruption, poverty and general decay one often sees in mid-eastern countries).

They have all the oppertunities to get an education, a decent job ( we have several - mostly female - muslims at my work, they are decent hard-working people and are treated well).

Funny how the east-asian immigrants fits so well in Denmark, they are hard-working peaceful people, very seldom involved in serious crimes or riots.
They manage to maintain their pride,culture and integrity without upsetting the natives.
They are MORE than welcome here !:)

[Lt. James Anderson]

correct me if im wrong but didnt France try to colonise the north african states? didnt they go to those countries and tried to take it by force? and sometimes immigrants have a right to be mad. they face cases of extreme racism at times. im moroccan my self and my uncle was a victim of extreme racism in France. so please stop talking because u clearly have no clue what ur talking about.

Ok, they got kicked out and that was it. Just like Arabs got kicked out of Spain before that. What pisses me off is the people who go to other countries and complain about "racism". The more they pour in the more they compain about racism or some other crap ... Where's the logic in that?

I actually think Arabs are cool people, but not in Europe where the younger ones behave like they own the place (seen it on my trips to France and some other countries) ...

[Afro-European]

Oppressing? Like those rioters were some lil sints.Look I'm an immigrant too but when is see,read sh!t like this, it pisses me off.This kind of stuff give us a bad name.Can't those muslims reacted on a civilized manner than burning sh!t down? You should accept the fact that you live in world that has a culture that is different than yours.Enjoy all opportunities you have here and make something with your life.No wonder that European countries are tightening their immigration policies.


Western nations should stop oppressing young Muslims...

[Rudolph]

Regarding the Muslim aspect, you know it's so strange reading Muslim-this, Muslim-that at MP.net, because our local Indians are mostly Muslim, but non-Arab, and are generally well-off, productive members of society. They had these little protests when the cartoons were displayed, but mostly them, and other immigrants from Muslim African countries cause little trouble. I'll even go as far as to say that their religion causes more of them to be educated, literate, and behave well.

They even formed this vigilante group PAGAD, People Against Gangsterism and Drugs, and burned alive, on national tv, one of our most notorious drug lords. So, at least they use their energy for "positive" things. (Although I hear there's an Al-Q camp or two in the country because of the lack of border and state control.)

But I fully respect and understand your feelings, our country's past is of course full of terrorist activities, and I harbour certain feelings towards certain political parties, even though it didn't affect me directly.

[Lazy Lob]

...........They even formed this vigilante group PAGAD, People Against Gangsterism and Drugs, and burned alive, on national tv, one of our most notorious drug lords. So, at least they use their energy for "positive" things. (Although I hear there's an Al-Q camp or two in the country because of the lack of border and state control.).........

How very quaint.

So when their “g force” went off on a tangent and started their bombing campaign in the name of Islam that’s fine with you is it? But they’re only a few, right? What about them targeting academics and clerics who opposed them? Is that ok? How very "positive" of them.

[Asheren]

correct me if im wrong but didnt France try to colonise the north african states? didnt they go to those countries and tried to take it by force? and sometimes immigrants have a right to be mad. they face cases of extreme racism at times. im moroccan my self and my uncle was a victim of extreme racism in France. so please stop talking because u clearly have no clue what ur talking about.

It is a kinda diffrent situation. You were forcefully draged in to european society. It shoud be done in a diffrent way but who would guess now that they would have problems with immigration in the future. Main problem is that racism directed to peoples with diffrent cultural background, discrimination and isolationism are only things that seems to be succesfull in preventing immigration issues. Assuming that such society was racist before significant amounts of immigrants arrive. Affter first wave gets ostracised and mistreaded rest usualy get the message "keeep out". Fortunatly we have build our society around principles of tolerance and equal treatment. I hast many advanteages but unfortunate side is that there is nothing preventing peoples that are racists towards our culture form going here and causing trubles. Dealing with immigrants in harsh way would be aginst principles of our societies. But those muslim extremists cut the branch muslim countries immigrants are siting on. If we all ask ourself a question: Am i more racists towards muslims today than i was 5-10 years ago? Unfortunalty i must admit that for me and many of my firends answer would be yes. If this process is progresing faster than immigration number increase sooner rather than later musilim in western countries will feel main advantage of democracy "rule of mayority". Someting is PC if mayority approves it even if it is aginst principles of our society. It will be sad to see moderate mayority of muslim immigrants suffering for actions of miniority but this is a price for not dealing with this minority.

[EatenByRats]

Nothing like a few idiots to unintentionally prove the original point, is there?

[Parx400]

This is why I tell people in America they should be happy our Immagrants are Catholic. I will take taco trucks and crappy Accordian music any day over Torched Cars and Jihad.

[Miles.]

This is why I tell people in America they should be happy our Immagrants are Catholic. I will take taco trucks and crappy Accordian music any day over Torched Cars and Jihad.

Amen to that.

[9mmRifle]

Indonesia is mobilizing their rent-a-crowd Muslim handpuppets.

Indonesian Muslims Protest Against Muhammad Cartoons 2/20/2008 4:08:18 AM Wednesday,
the Danish embassy in Indonesia witnessed a protest by around 200 Muslims against the reprinting of a cartoon depicting Prophet Muhammad in Danish newspapers. The group also rallied outside the Dutch embassy to protest the planned release of a right-wing Dutch lawmaker's controversial film on the Quran, Islam's holy book. "We heard they have reprinted the cartoons to defend the freedom of speech while in fact they have thereby clearly and seriously insulted the Prophet Muhammad and Islam, and this has happened several times," a spokesman of Muslim organization Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia or HTI, Muhammmad Ismail Yanto, said. Wednesday's protest came after at least 11 print media and televisions in Denmark republished or rescreened cartoon drawings of Prophet Mohammed, which originally appeared in Danish newspaper Jylland-Posten on September 30, 2005. Apart from the Danish media, at least three newspapers in Sweden, the Netherlands and Spain also reprinted the cartoons.