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Afro-European
02-15-2008, 07:24 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=514523&in_page_id=1770&ito=1490

9mmRifle
02-15-2008, 07:47 AM
It boils down to the question of cultural success, is the idea of multi culturalism always failure ? Maybe not, because once upon a time Italian, Serb, Irish, Caribbean, Dutch, Japanese, French immigrants came to America in their droves. They didn't try to convert us into a different society, they kept some traditions but learnt English and knew how to be American. But somewhere along the line we started to think multi culturalism was BETTER than being American. These days the Cops have to learn the Mexican ways and the Cops must learn how to speak Spanish, then theres an islamic invasion many countries suffer. An invasion into a country with people who have no feeling for the new homeland, or who are intrinsically hostile to it

if you don't agree/like/want to abide by the primary culture of your adopted home, move the f**k to another place

multi culturalism becomes the excuse to allow ideas like Moral Relativism to flourish
there is no hard rule, there is no what is right and wrong
right and wrong mere products of time and culture
perhaps blacks should have one law, whites should have one law and the islams should police themselves with some version of their own medieval laws

Modern nations like the US, Britain, France etc should know modern multiculturalism is a doomed philosophy.

Dasein
02-15-2008, 11:13 AM
It boils down to the question of cultural success, is the idea of multi culturalism always failure ? Maybe not, because once upon a time Italian, Serb, Irish, Caribbean, Dutch, Japanese, French immigrants came to America in their droves. They didn't try to convert us into a different society, they kept some traditions but learnt English and knew how to be American.

More accurately, the US assimilated various other cultures, such that their traditions became part of what it meant to be American. In other words, the definition of 'American' was changed to incorporate Italian food and St. Patrick's Day parades.

American nationalism is a perfect example of a nation reinventing itself to incorporate new ideas, new waves of immigrants and new cultures. There's never been a static definition of America, rooted in blood and myth, and the United States has largely resisted the ultimately destructive influence of Romantic nationalism.

mas-36
02-15-2008, 12:06 PM
There's never been a static definition of America, rooted in blood and myth, and the United States has largely resisted the ultimately destructive influence of Romantic nationalism.

You make a very valid point, with the exception of the above. It is true that America has for the most part been very sucessful in assimilating other cultures through immigrants of the past 2 centuries. However, I believe the notion of the "melting pot", to use the cliche, is becoming a thing of the past as the decendants of the yester-year's immigrants detach themselves from old-world strings, thus completing the Americanization process of the person - mind, body and soul. This also coincides to some degree, in an unwillingness to accept new immigrants.

Consequently, while they (or in my case, "we") may sometimes refer themselves (ourselves) as hyphenated Americans, I feel it is in word only and in fact they give only passing thought to their old world heritage (with, as you mentioned, the inclusion of St. Patrick's Day, Italian Cuisine, or Oktoberfest, to add another). It is simply no longer part of their American mindset: They are Americans. As more Americans look to their roots in the ideals which led to the founding of the American nation, they see that as part of their heritage, rather than their old world conections, as this is more likely to give them a sense of belonging and familiarity with other Americans who share the same backgrounds. Therein lies the origins of a homegrown nationalism, rooted in the blood and myth of America, which can also be a destructive influence. We are resisting it from outside, while cultivating it in our own form.

Lazy Lob
02-15-2008, 04:03 PM
We have a severe problem. Slowly we’ve become one of the world’s great redistribution societies. We have a fat and retarded civil service, at all levels. Their numbers increase by the day and they need feeding as well as pensions that bleed more than a bitch on heat. This lot are like a big hairy monster eating us alive with one big fat controller pulling the levers. If Gordo says multishyte is good then it must be. But he does like slipping a huge bill for his lethargic, vote-grabbing ideas.

We get less for more………… but apparently that is goooood.

The fault lies with with us, the electorate.

sexyhamburger
02-16-2008, 04:32 PM
lol multi-culturalism, its a joke. Come to Toronto and see for yourself, the whole idea of being multicultural and bathing in the light of our mixed heritages is a political fallacy that does nothing but rot the social structure from the inside. I don't mean to start a social rant here but its gotten pretty bad. Multi-culturalism has caused the very fabric of our national identity to tear, there is no "I am proud to be a Canadian" anymore unless its on a beer commercial. Now, i'm not against multiculturalism but i am against our Canadian variety of multiculturalism. We give everything and get nothing in return. I'll give you an example, theres a man from Sri Lanka. He has lived and worked here for almost twenty years now. He supports his kids, his wife, his parents and his brother who is also in his 40s. None of them other than this man work. Yet they all claim welfare and his parents who barely live in the country for more then two weeks a bloody year are collecting an old age pension. Am I insane or does anyone else see this as wrong? Also, there is a complete lack of respect for our language and culture (or whats left of it). People that come to this country now have no plans to learn about it, most stay in little enclaves with their own people and refuse to speak English. They refuse to do anything remotely Canadian. My parents are immigrants too, they came in '78 from Yugoslavia. They worked hard, made a name for themselves and have been very successful. Have they lost their ethnic identity? no, they're still Yugoslavians. But could I consider them Canadian? Most definitely. They took the time to become Canadian, they worked hard to be Canadian and they work just as hard to give back to Canada. I wish the immigrants coming to Canada these days could heed the example made by those that came 30 years earlier. But thats just my two cents guys.