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Hollis
02-15-2008, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkS8mdbml0A&eurl=http://www.shadowspear.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9901&page=2

A great book for men and women is "Armed and Female" by Paxton Quigley.

We all have choices, unless they are taken away from us. Then our choice may be one of being a statistic.

California Joe
02-15-2008, 03:49 PM
Rule Number 1: If the bad guy(s) is attempting to abduct you and get you into a van etc. Do everything and anything to fight back right then and there. Do not, under any circumstances get in that vehicle. Even if they shoot you where you stand in the parking lot. It's a whole lot better to fight and even die right there. It will pale in comparison to what will happen if they get you somewhere private and can take their time on you.

that_one_guy
02-15-2008, 11:34 PM
I have friends who are wary of firearms, recommend any self defense alternatives to them?

Hollis
02-15-2008, 11:38 PM
I have friends who are wary of firearms, recommend any self defense alternatives to them?


I would suggest that book, It is not a firearm only book. It covers situational awareness and other alternatives. I think most serious self defense instructors realize that a firearm is not going to work for everyone. They need to develop a personal defense strategy.

LaoSexMachine
02-15-2008, 11:39 PM
Rule Number 1: If the bad guy(s) is attempting to abduct you and get you into a van etc. Do everything and anything to fight back right then and there. Do not, under any circumstances get in that vehicle. Even if they shoot you where you stand in the parking lot. It's a whole lot better to fight and even die right there. It will pale in comparison to what will happen if they get you somewhere private and can take their time on you.


X2. A friend of my best friend was abducted along with her boyfriend out of her driveway here in Houston a few years back. She was raped and shot. He was killed too.

that_one_guy
02-15-2008, 11:42 PM
I would suggest that book, It is not a firearm only book. It covers situational awareness and other alternatives. I think most serious self defense instructors realize that a firearm is not going to work for everyone. They need to develop a personal defense strategy.

I suggested to my friend that she take a self defense class since they offer them at my college and she does carry a pepper spray, but how effective is pepper spray towards a determined attacker?

Hollis
02-16-2008, 12:03 AM
I am not a big fan of pepper spray. It works, but not all the time. It is better than nothing and can give you a edge. There is more to personal defense than what you carry.



EZ, My condolences on the lost of your friends.

Eoin666
02-16-2008, 12:52 AM
I suggested to my friend that she take a self defense class since they offer them at my college and she does carry a pepper spray, but how effective is pepper spray towards a determined attacker?

If the spray is in her bag and gets grabbed from behind....then it's no use, if she spays it into a head wind, no use, a simple rape alarm might be better

My old wing chun instructor was also a former free style full contact chinese martial arts champion, he used to say that although he taught women's self defense courses he didn't recommend them as they were frequently far too short, but if the students at least remembered one technique or some common sense then it was maybe worth it....my opinion common sense goes a long way, some things/situations you cannot prepare for as tragically outlined in the above post but simple things you can do, avoiding situations, being alert and recognising dangers, where to park, where not to walk..etc....but whichever mate, stay safe

Geezah
02-16-2008, 04:20 AM
My old wing chun instructor was also a former free style full contact chinese martial arts champion, he used to say that although he taught women's self defense courses he didn't recommend them as they were frequently far too short, but if the students at least remembered one technique or some common sense then it was maybe worth it....my opinion common sense goes a long way, some things/situations you cannot prepare for as tragically outlined in the above post but simple things you can do, avoiding situations, being alert and recognising dangers, where to park, where not to walk..etc....but whichever mate, stay safe


Can I ask what lineage?

Personally, I would suggest taking Krav Maga. From what I have seen it's extremely violent when it needs to be.

Peris
02-16-2008, 08:13 AM
i gave my wife this:


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XY89SQ3TL._AA240_.jpg


i wish we had in Greece the right to bear arms:-(

i am trying always to analyse some attacks or incidents and talk to mywife about how it.

Roy Batty
02-16-2008, 08:17 AM
I have friends who are wary of firearms, recommend any self defense alternatives to them?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJVRHpbcOgI

No. I dont know how to embed vids.

Eoin666
02-16-2008, 11:36 PM
Can I ask what lineage?

d'you mean age?.....turn of speech I'm afraid as it was a few yrs ago when trained under him, guessing he'd be about early-mid 40s now

extremely violent when it needs to be

But, so is a bunch of keys punched into someone's eyes,....but self defense especially for women means avoiding or getting away first and foremost, fighting is the last resort when you feel your life is in danger and anything goes.....also can't speak for other countries and I'm not a lawyer but if an assailant meets 3 characteristics (they are aggressive, advancing towards you, and the catch all "you believe your life to be in danger") then you entitled under law to take pre-emptive action..ie hit them and plead self defense...but very grey area so don't quote me :)

Andreas
02-16-2008, 11:40 PM
Rule Number 1: If the bad guy(s) is attempting to abduct you and get you into a van etc. Do everything and anything to fight back right then and there. Do not, under any circumstances get in the trunk. Even if they shoot you where you stand in the parking lot. It's a whole lot better to fight and even die right there. It will pale in comparison to what will happen if they get you somewhere private and can take their time on you.

Fixed it for you

little icebear
02-16-2008, 11:53 PM
Personally, I would suggest taking Krav Maga. From what I have seen it's extremely violent when it needs to be.

IŽd pick Krav Maga over Wing Chun any day. Krav Maga is way more natural in its approach of teaching techniques and concepts which I consider to be key when it comes to acting under stress.
I know both styles and I think it takes a lot more time and natural talent of the practioner until Wing Chun is of any use.



d'you mean age?


There are many Wing Chun sub-styles. The most common one derives from a teacher named Leung Ting.

Eoin666
02-17-2008, 12:53 AM
There are many Wing Chun sub-styles. The most common one derives from a teacher named Leung Ting.

Don't know mate, never that interested in the history and background to be honest....he through a bit of everything in which I enjoyed, mainly classical wing chun, but also some muay thai, western boxing (my personal fav) and ju-jutsu for when on the ground

Calanen
02-17-2008, 01:50 AM
One of the best means of crippling an attacker if they grab you is to get hold of a finger and break it. Normally, attackers will grab you first, and most wont be expecting this - that hand effectively becomes useless for 95% of all but the toughest. Anyone, no matter how feeble, can snap a finger. And it means, that they cant grab you anymore and will be in terrible pain. You can then make an escape.

The other is a kick to the goolies, given that most attackers will be male.

McNasty
02-17-2008, 11:13 AM
The other is a kick to the goolies, given that most attackers will be male.
A shin to the groin works almost as well against both sexes.

Geezah
02-17-2008, 11:21 AM
Don't know mate, never that interested in the history and background to be honest....he through a bit of everything in which I enjoyed, mainly classical wing chun, but also some muay thai, western boxing (my personal fav) and ju-jutsu for when on the ground

As Little Iceberg mentioned, linaege refers to family.

Family is important when it comes down to Wing Chun, it's like having a pedigree with papers.



But, so is a bunch of keys punched into someone's eyes,....but self defense especially for women means avoiding or getting away first and foremost, fighting is the last resort when you feel your life is in danger and anything goes.....also can't speak for other countries and I'm not a lawyer but if an assailant meets 3 characteristics (they are aggressive, advancing towards you, and the catch all "you believe your life to be in danger") then you entitled under law to take pre-emptive action..ie hit them and plead self defense...but very grey area so don't quote me

From what I have seen, Krav Maga is extremely violent when it needs to be, so IMHO, it is one of the best forms of self offense out there.

Not everyone is prepared to fight for their lives, that's why you have to train to bring it out of them, give them a few tools they can use when needed. It would enable someone that would normally freeze in a situation to go into auto drive and let the training take over.