Photos from attack near the Syrian border

[seruriermarshal]

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[ronin2172]

wow they had a ton of party favors!

[obd]

Well, Im convinced......it really WAS a wedding..

Thats EXACTLY what I had at my wedding accept I didnt have soviet bloc weapons.....but I did have 5 M-60 machine guns, amonium nitrate for "fireworks" after the wedding, about 400 lbs. of "mary jane" for medical purposes only, 10 million US dollars for "the hony moon" and fake ID's just for kicks.....

Man, cant those damn US Apaches tell the difference between "celebratory wedding 12.7 mm Dshk fire" and enemy 12.7 DShk fire??? I mean jesus H. Christ, I think those stupid ass Americans have done this before.... If I remmember correctly, they fired up about 300 weddings in the mountains of Tora Bora not to mention they killed about 24,000 Afghans and uncounted Iraqi's all while they were attending weddings........Remmember the famous "thunder run" into Baghdad....Well all that "resistance" was really just a bunch of ragheads having weddings......the dumb **** Americans just timed thier assault during the Iraqi wedding season.......I think even a few dozen American troops were killed by "wedding mortars" and such.........

[Kenshin]

Well, Im convinced......it really WAS a wedding..

Thats EXACTLY what I had at my wedding accept I didnt have soviet bloc weapons.....but I did have 5 M-60 machine guns, amonium nitrate for "fireworks" after the wedding, about 400 lbs. of "mary jane" for medical purposes only, 10 million US dollars for "the hony moon" and fake ID's just for kicks.....

Man, cant those damn US Apaches tell the difference between "celebratory wedding 12.7 mm Dshk fire" and enemy 12.7 DShk fire??? I mean jesus H. Christ, I think those stupid ass Americans have done this before.... If I remmember correctly, they fired up about 300 weddings in the mountains of Tora Bora not to mention they killed about 24,000 Afghans and uncounted Iraqi's all while they were attending weddings........Remmember the famous "thunder run" into Baghdad....Well all that "resistance" was really just a bunch of ragheads having weddings......the dumb **** Americans just timed thier assault during the Iraqi wedding season.......I think even a few dozen American troops were killed by "wedding mortars" and such.........

Ur right.. thats it! rofl

[drgonzo777]

wow they had a ton of party favors!

I love this cind of party to... a little heroin and my AK47 - yolie good...

[Crazyjack]

To kill 40 people with an air strike because of 9 soviet-block and rather old weapons, some syringes (with needles), and some money for the wedding is a great job.

These photos didn´t convince me.
In that region it is normal, that everyone has got a bunch of weapons at home, the money was a present, and the syringes. Well call a doctor in the desert! You have to wait some days for him!

[American Patriot]

The RPG-7 and 20 AK mags are a dead giveaway.

[Crazyjack]

The RPG-7 and 20 AK mags are a dead giveaway.
Even then, everybody has got that kind of weapon in their home. And if they had got guests in their home, most of them will bring their weapons with them on their tour through the desert....
I think it was a mistake of the US.

Well but this is war. It should not happen but it happens everytime.
And i belive that no American soldier would ever bomb a wedding for fun.
They thought it was something serious but it was´t.

[Uncle Chô]

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This is by far the worst evidence : they were suicide terrorists!

I mean flying Sudan Airways... ;)

[MetalBoy]

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"Why thank you Aunt Fatima, the FN-FAL will go nicely with the toaster Uncle Ahmed gave us! Oh thats an IED Cousin Intifadah? **** someone better tell little Muhammed.... KABLOOOEEY*&%&$*!!!!!

[ronin2172]

^^ Cousin Mahmoud that RPG matches my china pattern so perfectly! rofl

[LordHalbert]

I can understand the need to protect one self in Iraq but ordinary citizens celebrating a wedding should not possess RPGs and machine guns.

[ronin2172]

I can understand the need to protect one self in Iraq but ordinary citizens celebrating a wedding should not possess RPGs and machine guns.
:cantbeli: i guess iraq has a big epidemic with home invaders using APC's and people doing drive by's in Main Battle Tanks!

[TacoDelRio]

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[Argyll]

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As far as I was aware the only weapons "licensed" are an AK for protection only.
RPK's and PKM's and RPG's are NOT allowed to be in your possesion,these alone are enough to get you an inside look at Al Graibh.

[OldRecon]

A wedding party going on doesn't mean the same place can't also house weapons and explosives.
It's just that the present war in Iraq is now a guerilla type war requiering political accumen as well as traditional tactical accumen and thus a weapons store also housing a wedding party isnt' the same targetwise as an enemy infantry, tank or artillery position in a "conventional war".
It's something about the timing of the attack on that "wedding house" that lack common sense to someone out of uniform (and after all it's people out of uniform that contribute most of the tax money financing those in uniform). If you can't get that you'll simply shoot yourself in the foot. Wether you like it or not, an overreliance on brute force and firepower won't do much good.
The line between proper reaction and overreaction is very fine, in a guerilla type conflict as per now in Iraq.
There are no shortcuts in a guerilla type war, and the side who can afford to wait the longest will be the eventual winner. Wich means the side with most firepower not neccessarily will be the eventual winner (be warned most such wars end in a draw though).
The US armed forces are seccond to none in firepower and tactical accumen, but the track record of political accumen of US armed forces in guerilla type conflicts past 1945 isn't too impressive. And somehow you seem to make the same mistakes all over again.

[OB Kenobi]

A wedding party going on doesn't mean the same place can't also house weapons and explosives.

Most Americans can't comprehend grey issues like this, they can only deal with black and white, or "good" and "evil." If they found weapons at the site, it is obviously evil and anyone there also had to be evil. No need to conduct an investigation, shoot first and make excuses later, after all, it's just some Iraqis, no one will miss them.

[He219]

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These must have been wedding decorations ..
;)


Syringes, bag of white powder, cash, more cash - I recon a guy could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all of that stuff ...
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[ronin2172]

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These must have been wedding decorations ..
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Syringes, bag of white powder, cash, more cash - I recon a guy could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all of that stuff ...
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it would have made a helluva bachelor party huh?LOL

[ronin2172]

A wedding party going on doesn't mean the same place can't also house weapons and explosives.

Most Americans can't comprehend grey issues like this, they can only deal with black and white, or "good" and "evil." If they found weapons at the site, it is obviously evil and anyone there also had to be evil. No need to conduct an investigation, shoot first and make excuses later, after all, it's just some Iraqis, no one will miss them.
please get off your high horse....most of us require more evidence than a misleading video.....

[Fliptape]

The US needs 10 CA units per regular unit to win the iraqi people over :)

Picture yourself Wade on the beach in Saving Private Ryan, when he tryes to save the battalionsurgion, but he dies anyway, and he thinks all that work for nothing, thats how the Civill Affairs guys must think every time good old dumb GI-Joe goes to work.

[ronin2172]

^that was so not funny.....looks lie dave chapelle doesn't have to worry about u..

[seruriermarshal]

So perhaps Iraqi lie to everybody .

[Marmot1]

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These must have been wedding decorations ..
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Syringes, bag of white powder, cash, more cash - I recon a guy could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all of that stuff ...
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Someone have caption to this??? Since it looks more like soviet made battery pack than explosive...

Still 9 weapons and 40 dead do not sounds good... even russians gave during war 1 rifle for 2 soldiers not for 4 ;-)

To tell you a truth it do not convince me. only 3 weapons are illegal, no RPG rounds No grenades, no explosives...

...even my grandpa had more stuff after WW2 in his barn... (We found after his dead 4MP,7rifles and shotguns,1 MG-42, 1 Diegateriev, grenades, ammo, explosives, and 2 pistols(Walter P-08)- unfortunatell all rusted )

And giving that in iraq everybody has weapon and not everybody know how to read they may even don't know that it was illegal to have rpg.

As for cash...

1 300 000 dinars it's 700$ no more (AFAIK exchange rate, but I might be wrong) plus 100$ and 9000 syrian pounds that is not even 1000$....

[ronin2172]

no one said that this is definitive proof but it does shed some doubt on...'this was only a wedding reception'....and please don't tell me that crappy video is proof positive of the truth....

[Marmot1]

no one said that this is definitive proof but it does shed some doubt on...'this was only a wedding reception'....and please don't tell me that crappy video is proof positive of the truth....

No that video is not a proof for me but also this photos are not a proof. Celebrating with gunfire is comon in middle east and even on balkans so having some guns on wedding do not necesarily meand that they were terrorist, but on the other hand this sudanese pasport is suspicious to me.

[seruriermarshal]

It's a wedding , But it isn't in night .

[seruriermarshal]

no one said that this is definitive proof but it does shed some doubt on...'this was only a wedding reception'....and please don't tell me that crappy video is proof positive of the truth....

but on the other hand this sudanese pasport is suspicious to me.

Why?

[Marmot1]

no one said that this is definitive proof but it does shed some doubt on...'this was only a wedding reception'....and please don't tell me that crappy video is proof positive of the truth....

but on the other hand this sudanese pasport is suspicious to me.

Why?

For what purpose a black guy with Sudanese passport would come to remote desert village in Iraq? He do not look to "Arabic" so we can rather exclude family ties,

Ahh BTW those pictures of weapons are not taken on the place of atack... look at that marble floor it must have been taken somewhere else. Probably in some US base in one of former saddam palaces...

Also some pic are taken during night some dirung day...

[seruriermarshal]

There near Quim , Perhaps Arabic enter Iraq .

[Marmot1]

There near Quim , Perhaps Arabic enter Iraq .???

[Argyll]

Quaim(Sp)
it's a place located in the western Iraqi desert

[OldRecon]

As for insurgenst as wedding guests, didn't the members of the British SOE team that kidnapped the German general Kreipe on Crete during WW-2 take part in a local wedding on Crete some time between landing on the island and the snatching of the General?

[OldRecon]

A wedding party going on doesn't mean the same place can't also house weapons and explosives.

Most Americans can't comprehend grey issues like this, they can only deal with black and white, or "good" and "evil." If they found weapons at the site, it is obviously evil and anyone there also had to be evil. No need to conduct an investigation, shoot first and make excuses later, after all, it's just some Iraqis, no one will miss them.

Makes me wonder how people would have reacted if the Britts had fired off a TOW missile from a Lynx chopper into a pub in Belfast, just because a fraction of the guests inside were PIRA players :roll:.

[Uncle Sam]

Most Americans can't comprehend grey issues like this, they can only deal with black and white, or "good" and "evil." If they found weapons at the site, it is obviously evil and anyone there also had to be evil. No need to conduct an investigation, shoot first and make excuses later, after all, it's just some Iraqis, no one will miss them.

Shut your pie hole...Moron!

[LordHalbert]

When you find IED, RPGs, machine guns with belt ammo, and drugs, then you can safely assume that it's not a normal wedding party.

I've never been to a wedding where they had all that stuff.

That's not to say that there was not a wedding at the place of the attack but if there was, they chose the wrong place to do it.

[Fliptape]

why is it so difficulte for americans to say:

"ok, maybe we ****ed up and bombed the crap out of a couple of families that where celebrating a wedding"

[hank]

When you find IED, RPGs, machine guns with belt ammo, and drugs, then you can safely assume that it's not a normal wedding party.

Doesn't that largely depend on your definition of "normal". :D Probably better than most weddings. ;)

hank